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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:16 am

Polar Svalbard wrote:Damn, way less support for MS than I thought. I no longer feel bad for involvement.

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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:34 am

Polar Svalbard wrote:Damn, way less support for MS than I thought. I no longer feel bad for involvement.

The main thing is that the support for me seems larger and stronger. The support for SJ seems to be more plentiful but less overt.

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Balnik
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Postby Balnik » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:38 am

To reiterate my purposes of operating in SJ I shall reiterate them here.

1. D&S: Since Balnik and Dormill have had a turbulent historical past and since Dormill insists on continuing his neo-imperialist conquest of many different regions across the Isles, Balnik would like to put a stop to this and as a result will provide SJ with mercenaries and weapons to halt the invaders.

2. Money: Balnik and it's criminal underworld are closely intertwined, and not much happens without Balniks oversight, however as a return of the criminal organizations paying money to Balnik, they are allowed to operate more freely and gain access to an incredibly profitable drug smuggling route to SJ and across the Isles. SJ changing government, being occupied, or simply suppressing it's own criminal activities would be a major loss of income in the Balniki smuggling ring, and in turn Balnik itself.

3. Oil: With oil being potentially disrupted by the conflict in MS and SJ, this leaves Balnik in a dangerous spot where most of its energy production depends on oil imports. Oil prices raising would certainly harm the Balniki economy in many ways as it would need to rapidly change to inward production or forking more money for more expensive oil from other nations.
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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:09 am

Menna Shuli wrote:
Polar Svalbard wrote:Damn, way less support for MS than I thought. I no longer feel bad for involvement.

The main thing is that the support for me seems larger and stronger. The support for SJ seems to be more plentiful but less overt.

No one wants war for SJ, that's for sure
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Postby Negarakita » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:58 pm

Suvurnia supports Dormill and Stiura, but also has a big interest in crippling the drug trade
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Negarakita wrote:Suvurnia supports Dormill and Stiura, but also has a big interest in crippling the drug trade

Uh...that's the same side. The drug trade is coming from SJ, who DS are fighting against...

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Postby Negarakita » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:44 pm

Menna Shuli wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Suvurnia supports Dormill and Stiura, but also has a big interest in crippling the drug trade

Uh...that's the same side. The drug trade is coming from SJ, who DS are fighting against...

I know. I'm just explaining that its not just because of ties to DS that we are gonna support it.
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Postby Menna Shuli » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:32 am

Oh, okay. Sorry.

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San Montagna
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Postby San Montagna » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:21 pm

Alrighty, so in response to my post about involvement from 7 or so days ago: I can see San Montagna supporting Menna Shulli as a way to combat the drug trade, as the drugs would be finding their way into San Montagna through Menna Shulli, at least, I'm assuming so
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:07 pm

Miklania, we could do a meeting of some generals of ours discussing what's going on in Menna until our nations get involved. Discussing the MSTO and whether or not it would be wise to ask for Corindia and Norstham to follow in or whatever. Could be good for some world-building, especially as we start to prepare for involvement.
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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:33 am

Sounds like a good idea. I don't feel the need to drag MSTO into this, it's not really anything that would trigger the collective defense clause, and politically it's better to try and clean up our own mess as quietly as we can. Making it into a huge multi-national spectacle is the last thing we want to happen.
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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:19 am

Menna, would I be correct in assuming that the communists probably have control of Isla San Martin and Isla Mujeres for the moment? And, if I may, could I take control of what is left of the communists from an OOC standpoint in a similar way as I did the PLF in Orsandia?
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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:18 am

I think that's all reasonable if Dorm is cool with it.

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Dormill and Stiura
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:53 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:Menna, would I be correct in assuming that the communists probably have control of Isla San Martin and Isla Mujeres for the moment? And, if I may, could I take control of what is left of the communists from an OOC standpoint in a similar way as I did the PLF in Orsandia?

That’s not what I immediately had in mind, but yeah you can have commies in the north islands.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:02 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:Menna, would I be correct in assuming that the communists probably have control of Isla San Martin and Isla Mujeres for the moment? And, if I may, could I take control of what is left of the communists from an OOC standpoint in a similar way as I did the PLF in Orsandia?

That’s not what I immediately had in mind, but yeah you can have commies in the north islands.

What did you have in mind?
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:06 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Dormill and Stiura wrote:That’s not what I immediately had in mind, but yeah you can have commies in the north islands.

What did you have in mind?

Well I had suspected most of the remaining commies were all bunched up in tiny communes in the eastern mountains of San Javier proper, as was suggested by the original RP.

However at the same time I also had a thought of the Commies being on the northern islands because they’d be relatively safe from the main island. Either works for me so take whichever you want and let us know what you’re going to do.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:24 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:What did you have in mind?

Well I had suspected most of the remaining commies were all bunched up in tiny communes in the eastern mountains of San Javier proper, as was suggested by the original RP.

However at the same time I also had a thought of the Commies being on the northern islands because they’d be relatively safe from the main island. Either works for me so take whichever you want and let us know what you’re going to do.

I'll go with the northern isles. Ty m8
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Athara Magarat
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Postby Athara Magarat » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:40 pm

I have to fix both IC and OOC mess that I created last time.

Permission to come abroad...

Magarati Government: In support of MS (not like they can do anything)

Elements within Magarati Government and AMI: Fix the mess we created last time and possibly work with TIS
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Keomora - It's so goddamn diverse.

Tastreira - I get a Nepal/Tibet/Mongolian vibe from it.

Covonant - It's a different unique concept which is nice to have. I love that in TWI is not just Western modeled states but states of different cultures and ideologies which makes the RP more interesting.

Polar Svalbard - 8/10 would bang.




Before idiotically calling me out for having a so-called Nazi symbol in my flag, I recommend you ACTUALLY read my dispatches.

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What my flag stands for...

And my IC constitution

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:46 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:I have to fix both IC and OOC mess that I created last time.

Permission to come abroad...

Magarati Government: In support of MS (not like they can do anything)

Elements within Magarati Government and AMI: Fix the mess we created last time and possibly work with TIS

If you are working with MS, we could very much use you for what I later plan to do- start funneling in aid and construction supplies to improve the communists lives, which would have been neglected over the last 2 years due to focus on the mainland and industrial rather than residential infrastructure. We would (in the long term) also be aiding the communists by slowly building up their influence in the region. My side in the RP is basically trying to set up a group that is more prepared for peace than any of the other groups. They can win politically in whatever state will be set up afterwards because if Polar is involved, it will be some form of democracy.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:54 pm

I don't suppose the towns in the isles have names?
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Wellsia
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Postby Wellsia » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:33 pm

Wellsia will send “volunteers “ to assist the people of San Javier against the evil invaders. These volunteers will be similar to the volunteers China allowed to assist N. Korea at the Yalu River.
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Athara Magarat
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Postby Athara Magarat » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:57 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:If you are working with MS, we could very much use you for what I later plan to do- start funneling in aid and construction supplies to improve the communists lives, which would have been neglected over the last 2 years due to focus on the mainland and industrial rather than residential infrastructure. We would (in the long term) also be aiding the communists by slowly building up their influence in the region. My side in the RP is basically trying to set up a group that is more prepared for peace than any of the other groups. They can win politically in whatever state will be set up afterwards because if Polar is involved, it will be some form of democracy.

Aye sir, I am all ears for that.
Proud Member of the The Western Isles.

Keomora - It's so goddamn diverse.

Tastreira - I get a Nepal/Tibet/Mongolian vibe from it.

Covonant - It's a different unique concept which is nice to have. I love that in TWI is not just Western modeled states but states of different cultures and ideologies which makes the RP more interesting.

Polar Svalbard - 8/10 would bang.




Before idiotically calling me out for having a so-called Nazi symbol in my flag, I recommend you ACTUALLY read my dispatches.

What the symbol really is...

What my flag stands for...

And my IC constitution

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Ostehaar
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Ostehaar » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:13 am

Hope it's not too late, but TAG.

Also, a reminder that I have a few people there. They run a ratger complex operation, but have been pretty dormant since the Leak a few months ago.

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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:21 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:I don't suppose the towns in the isles have names?

Dots without names can be named still.

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