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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Dormill and Stiura
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:28 am

Miklania wrote:
Menna Shuli wrote:He's not in SJ yet. Command is still in Shuhakallu, directing things from long-distance. My plan was to get Sul to SJ ASAP. I could write a post of his arrival locally before you post, so you can contact him from the beachhead.

Or Col. Gavin can fly in to Shuhakallu and meet there, work out a plan as they fly in together, only to encounter resistance from the Admiral, who's already there once they arrive. Neither Sul nor Gavin are in a position to boss him around, and since he's been on-scene getting things done, essentially presenting them with a fait accompli.

Fortunately the command staff of my own forces are on the Union so they can also come in as soon as necessary.
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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:14 pm

Miklania wrote:
Menna Shuli wrote:He's not in SJ yet. Command is still in Shuhakallu, directing things from long-distance. My plan was to get Sul to SJ ASAP. I could write a post of his arrival locally before you post, so you can contact him from the beachhead.

Or Col. Gavin can fly in to Shuhakallu and meet there, work out a plan as they fly in together, only to encounter resistance from the Admiral, who's already there once they arrive. Neither Sul nor Gavin are in a position to boss him around, and since he's been on-scene getting things done, essentially presenting them with a fait accompli.

I'm already most of the way into a post bringing Sul to the front.

The Admiral wasn't there either. Everything was coordinated from a distance like goddamn assholes. Lol

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Postby Miklania » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:31 pm

Menna Shuli wrote:
Miklania wrote:Or Col. Gavin can fly in to Shuhakallu and meet there, work out a plan as they fly in together, only to encounter resistance from the Admiral, who's already there once they arrive. Neither Sul nor Gavin are in a position to boss him around, and since he's been on-scene getting things done, essentially presenting them with a fait accompli.

I'm already most of the way into a post bringing Sul to the front.

The Admiral wasn't there either. Everything was coordinated from a distance like goddamn assholes. Lol

Nice. I'll wait for you to post to set the scene then I'll have the arrival and meeting take place. How would you like to handle writing a back and forth dialogue between characters from two different countries?

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Postby Menna Shuli » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:54 pm

Miklania wrote:
Menna Shuli wrote:I'm already most of the way into a post bringing Sul to the front.

The Admiral wasn't there either. Everything was coordinated from a distance like goddamn assholes. Lol

Nice. I'll wait for you to post to set the scene then I'll have the arrival and meeting take place. How would you like to handle writing a back and forth dialogue between characters from two different countries?

Write the dialogue you want, shoot it to me by TG, I'll do a proof to make it match the character, and then you can post.

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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:02 pm

Menna Shuli wrote:
Miklania wrote:Nice. I'll wait for you to post to set the scene then I'll have the arrival and meeting take place. How would you like to handle writing a back and forth dialogue between characters from two different countries?

Write the dialogue you want, shoot it to me by TG, I'll do a proof to make it match the character, and then you can post.

Would it be okay to also have my generals get involved? They are in on this and I assume we're still sticking with the original idea that D&S would ferry over the rest of the Mennan forces you wanted to send in.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:25 pm

Miklania, I'm hoping y'all don't get into anything major with Thuzbekistan. Otherwise I'll have to bring in Svalbardian fleets down there to provide back up. Until then I'm still on the logistics and back-up side of things. Although I do want to get the Marine-Angrepskraft involved. If y'all start an island hopping campaign let me know.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:29 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:Miklania, I'm hoping y'all don't get into anything major with Thuzbekistan. Otherwise I'll have to bring in Svalbardian fleets down there to provide back up. Until then I'm still on the logistics and back-up side of things. Although I do want to get the Marine-Angrepskraft involved. If y'all start an island hopping campaign let me know.

There's really only one island to deal with since the other two are de facto outside of the junta's control and filled with worthless Commies anyways.

However, the Marine-Angrepskraft is welcome to join once Agustin or Pueblo Ignacio are secured.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:41 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:
Polar Svalbard wrote:Miklania, I'm hoping y'all don't get into anything major with Thuzbekistan. Otherwise I'll have to bring in Svalbardian fleets down there to provide back up. Until then I'm still on the logistics and back-up side of things. Although I do want to get the Marine-Angrepskraft involved. If y'all start an island hopping campaign let me know.

There's really only one island to deal with since the other two are de facto outside of the junta's control and filled with worthless Commies anyways.

However, the Marine-Angrepskraft is welcome to join once Agustin or Pueblo Ignacio are secured.

Pretty much this.

Oh polar I need to tg you about what menna mentioned. It's a good idea and having rivaling international organizations would be fun.

Sorry that this wont be happening under you, menna. You woulda been a good leader if it.
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:03 pm

What is the timeline with the navies? I intend on having a small contingent of Ilsan knights transporting various small arms, and a few portable anti-tank and anti-missile systems arriving in San Javier to support the government against Menna Shuli.

Also, Thuzbekistan and Negarikita, I want to have one of the personal servants of these knights try and turn a profit by helping y'all, arranging an ambush of a San Javieran convoy containing some of the weapons, which would significantly help the ANLF.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:16 pm

Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:What is the timeline with the navies? I intend on having a small contingent of Ilsan knights transporting various small arms, and a few portable anti-tank and anti-missile systems arriving in San Javier to support the government against Menna Shuli.

Also, Thuzbekistan and Negarikita, I want to have one of the personal servants of these knights try and turn a profit by helping y'all, arranging an ambush of a San Javieran convoy containing some of the weapons, which would significantly help the ANLF.

From Waalwijk, it’s about 2 days to San Javier. From Thuzbekistan about 3 days. From Corindia (where I suspect the Miklanian 3rd Fleet is based from) about a day.

Miklania has deployed the 959th Fighter Squadron and sent a Brigade from IX Corps on 7 March.

Thuzbekistan deployed the Central Fleet on 8 March, this includes its contingent of Marines.

I deployed the Union Coastal Assault Force on 8 March for San Javier, and the Dufor Hill Coastal Assault Force on the same day for Novullesudcourd, Swaneeak on 8 March. I additionally deployed Able, Bull, and Carrion Companies of 1st Battalion, 17th Airborne Regiment to Agustin on 12 March.
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:45 pm

Thank you, so it looks like the Ilsan ship would need to evade Miklanian surface fleet, and probably your fleet to, if it were to set sail soon after war was declared. Is it safe to assume none of the fleets are practicing serious searches of local traffic?
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:50 pm

That’s correct. Menna doesn’t really have much of a Fleet and neither mine nor Miklania’s have established an exclusion zone yet. However with Thuz’s Central Fleet closing in one of us will make that a reality, so you should’ve been able to get a sizeable body of troops and a month or two of supplies inside San Javier before either Navy arrived.

I believe Mik will announce an Exclusion Zone within the next day but it’s worth asking him about his plans.
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Postby Miklania » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:48 pm

The exclusion zone will be announced in reaction to Thuz's fleet making it's way towards San Javier. The current naval presence is limited, so it's entirely possible for ships to be sneaking in and out without being noticed, at least for the next day or two.

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On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:09 pm

Plan on making a post with the position of my fleet and dorm harassing the corvs.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:32 am

So who or what are we waiting on to get this RP running again?
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:29 am

Dormill and Stiura wrote:So who or what are we waiting on to get this RP running again?

Me on the naval front :/ I'll try tonight but this is a busy week
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Postby Miklania » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:46 am

Me, sorry.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:50 pm

Sorry, I don't got too much to do for the RP and I'm mostly taking this week off as spring break from most things.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:51 am

Wellsia wrote:Reports were the Doraltics had launched an air borne attack on Puerto Agustin, but the 11th battalion would take care of that.

Hey, Wellsia. Thanks for telling me that you were intending to send forces to Agustin before you posted. I might as well remedy this by planning ahead myself.

So my immediate next post which I will start writing right after this is the end of my "Battle of Agustin" arc with the attack on the radio station and the arrival of air support from the Union, then I have a news post planned to give an After-Action Report on the battle and give Dormill and Stiura's justification as to why it is involved. After that will be a post of my forces beginning to move north towards Rio Pena with a brief skirmish in the presently unnamed village just to its south. If you want to meet my forces there, Wellsia that's fine just let me know what your plans are first before we get to that. After that skirmish, I'll send in the aforementioned 18th Regiment which will have the task of linking up with Mennan-Miklanian forces in Constantina.

Then comes the next major arc in my story, the Battle for Rio Pena, where my marine battalion and airborne battalion already present will meet heavy resistance before ultimately winning. I'll have somewhere between 3 and 5 posts for that arc in particular following Corporal Perce Achterkamp during the battle. After Rio Pena, the overall aim of my forces would be to detach Castillo Verde from the Steppe and make the economic situation for the junta so bad as to prompt them to either surrender or force a change in government.

After the war, I also intend to introduce a resolution to the League to send peacekeepers with the intent of rooting out the rest of the cartels and facilitating a transition to a fully democratic government and the first open elections in nearly 50 years.
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Postby Menna Shuli » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:10 pm

Wellsia, I haven't really seen this RP occurring in "real time". I don't think a week has actually occurred for the purposes of the story on the ground. I was basically assuming that the Battle of the Delta is only a few days old, not a week. Otherwise every time I'm left waiting to post seems like a delay that didn't really happen. I don't want there to have been a week between the landing and the attack on Pueblo Ignacio. It would have happened the next day if I wasn't waiting.

EDIT: This isn't me intentionally throwing shade, it's just my military is being made out to be more and more incompetent with each post. They're meant to be underprepared and overconfident, not cartoonishly stupid.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:22 pm

Menna Shuli wrote:Wellsia, I haven't really seen this RP occurring in "real time". I don't think a week has actually occurred for the purposes of the story on the ground. I was basically assuming that the Battle of the Delta is only a few days old, not a week. Otherwise every time I'm left waiting to post seems like a delay that didn't really happen. I don't want there to have been a week between the landing and the attack on Pueblo Ignacio. It would have happened the next day if I wasn't waiting.

EDIT: This isn't me intentionally throwing shade, it's just my military is being made out to be more and more incompetent with each post. They're meant to be underprepared and overconfident, not cartoonishly stupid.

I know my posts following my next one will bring things up to date but aside that I agree with the assumption that the trip up the Delta had been happening from the 9th through the 12th with the Battle of Pueblo Ignacio happening over the last few actual days. So yes it has been a week since the Delta but it's wiser to timestamp posts to indicate when they happen, as I've done with mine.
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Postby Menna Shuli » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:26 pm

We'll call that policy for the RP from here out (no need to edit past posts). Let's timestamp things, especially major events. We'll leave the week as having happened as the journey up the river, and go forward from there. It shouldn't affect Mik's post too much.

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:38 pm

Menna Shuli wrote:We'll call that policy for the RP from here out (no need to edit past posts). Let's timestamp things, especially major events. We'll leave the week as having happened as the journey up the river, and go forward from there. It shouldn't affect Mik's post too much.

Ok.
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Postby Menna Shuli » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:30 pm

I'll post the map of Pueblo Ignacio tonight.

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:55 pm

Sorry for the short post, but I wanted to start the naval standoff and didn't have a needed post from AM contacting the commies.
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