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As the Poppies Bloom (TWI ONLY | OOC)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Almorea
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Postby Almorea » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:18 am

News post is intended to demonstrate that Almorean oil interests want the war to spread as widely as possible. The Almorean government still won't be getting involved.

I may have the Prez freeze Javierian assets in Almorea soon in exchange for a legislative breakthrough with Congress. Joint ALDRATO diplomatic action will follow when the conflict sucks in the MSTO.
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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:29 am

It's funny that this is a war where menna shulli is attacking another nation and he is somehow getting a ton of support.
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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:31 am

Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:I see. Should I just land in the capital then?

I'd say aye to that. Remember what I said before, the militias merged with the ECSJ military and formed the People's Freedom Coalition, the military junta that is running SJ.

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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:31 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:It's funny that this is a war where menna shulli is attacking another nation and he is somehow getting a ton of support.

It's cause I'm the player and they're the NPC.

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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:44 am

Menna Shuli wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:It's funny that this is a war where menna shulli is attacking another nation and he is somehow getting a ton of support.

It's cause I'm the player and they're the NPC.

Hm?
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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:53 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Menna Shuli wrote:It's cause I'm the player and they're the NPC.

Hm?

People rarely swarm to aid a bolded territory, I find. They assume a loss there.

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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:56 am

Menna Shuli wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:Hm?

People rarely swarm to aid a bolded territory, I find. They assume a loss there.

Ah, gotta be willing to lose every once in a while. Its about rping your nation.
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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:08 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Menna Shuli wrote:People rarely swarm to aid a bolded territory, I find. They assume a loss there.

Ah, gotta be willing to lose every once in a while. Its about rping your nation.

Indeed. My original idea for this RP was to lose. I've been overwhelmed by the support, which shifts things. I like that my plan got undermined, because it lets me explore more interesting stories.

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Dothrakia
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Postby Dothrakia » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:46 am

Since SJ is lacking in support I'll hop in on their side, make things a little interesting.

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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:09 am

Dothrakia wrote:Since SJ is lacking in support I'll hop in on their side, make things a little interesting.

I can put on a show of bravado and be the ring leader of a cobbled together coalition then lolill tg you and AM tonight
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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:17 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Dothrakia wrote:Since SJ is lacking in support I'll hop in on their side, make things a little interesting.

I can put on a show of bravado and be the ring leader of a cobbled together coalition then lolill tg you and AM tonight

The AoN. Alliance of Necessity.

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Dothrakia
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Postby Dothrakia » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:41 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Dothrakia wrote:Since SJ is lacking in support I'll hop in on their side, make things a little interesting.

I can put on a show of bravado and be the ring leader of a cobbled together coalition then lolill tg you and AM tonight



sounds good

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Dormill and Stiura
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:09 pm

Alright, I'm free from work and am going to put up a few posts to establish what is going to happen. I'll also draft up a dispatch on my most important characters in the year to come (with plans for more detailed dispatches later) which I will reference for this RP.

So, Dormill and Stiura is going to be in a weird position. Here's why:

President Dyson knows all too well that if this war drags out, the loss of both Javerian and Mennan oil will spell disaster for Dormill and Stiura's economy in the short term. And short term losses is unacceptable given that it is an election year, every bad thing will be painted as a failure on the administration even if minimal, inconsequential, or quickly resolved. His plans will be to meet with Almorean and Totzkan leaders to hammer out a "stopgap" agreement where Dormill and Stiura gets privileged access to Almorean-Totzkan Oil in exchange for closer diplomatic ties with suggestions of some light military alliance (as Almorea put it when we discussed it "the springboard for closer ties to counteract MSTO influence").

At the same time as that, ending this war between Menna and San Javier is of an utmost priority so there's going to be an aim of assembling a Gaeltic task force (or building one from those already involved) to better coordinate the war effort. This will be justified at home by the argument that a quicker conflict will still achieve its goals while limiting the economic impacts and that Dormill and Stiura is continuing to stand up for the rule of law, even if that law is considered by most to be enforced by a government entirely antithetical to Dormill and Stiura.

In all, Dormill and Stiura will send the 1st Coastal Assault Squadron in its entirety alongside the 17th Airborne Regiment to be involved in this conflict. Now I also discussed this with Ainslie a few days back and I was wondering what would happen if Vancouvia was to deny access to my ships via the ID (considering that he basically controls the ID's government), which would force my navy to take the long way around Gael? Otherwise, the Navy will take about half a week to sail to position, the 17th will take about a day or two. This will happen after about 2 days of preparation by the MoD to get the logistical situation sorted out and to communicate with whoever else is involved alongside the Mennans (and of course the Mennans themselves).

Finally, as an OOC thing, due to my work schedule I won't be able to really post during the weekends and only on Mondays and Tusedays, if there are any military actions that would or should involve Dormill-Stiuraian forces I would like (and grant permission to) for any relevant posters to mention them and their part in the conflict. Just be sure to contact me if something drastic happens in the course of this that would require my attention or approval.
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Balnik
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Founded: Mar 10, 2015
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Postby Balnik » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:36 pm

Is there a map? I'd have the Legion land in a northern harbour, and write a post about their movements south and maybe probably some character stuff.
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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:44 pm

Balnik wrote:Is there a map? I'd have the Legion land in a northern harbour, and write a post about their movements south and maybe probably some character stuff.

Just go back a page. I posted a mildly edited one depicting the current stuff going on, but it shows the whole country.

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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:55 pm

Still adjusting the casualties in the newest post. It should include the ship battle, which isn't really reflected in the losses taken by the Javieran.

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Polar Svalbard
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:56 pm

Almorean-Totzkan Oil in exchange for closer diplomatic ties with suggestions of some light military alliance (as Almorea put it when we discussed it "the springboard for closer ties to counteract MSTO influence")

Small thing here Dorm, did Almorea say that? Crazy as I thought that Almorea and Polar Svalbard were allies after fighting together through the 20th century.
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Dormill and Stiura
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:00 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:Almorean-Totzkan Oil in exchange for closer diplomatic ties with suggestions of some light military alliance (as Almorea put it when we discussed it "the springboard for closer ties to counteract MSTO influence")

Small thing here Dorm, did Almorea say that? Crazy as I thought that Almorea and Polar Svalbard were allies after fighting together through the 20th century.

Yep, we talked about it on Discord about a week ago when he asked what my plans were.
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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:14 pm

MSTO and D&S are friendly too, they can still be wary of the alliance's influence and want more of it's power for themselves. That's just geopolitics.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Polar Svalbard
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:15 pm

Ah, didn't really know whether or not the relations between D&S were friendly or not.
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Vancouvia
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Postby Vancouvia » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:47 pm

Why would we block your ships, Dormill?

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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:26 pm

Vancouvia wrote:Why would we block your ships, Dormill?

Threat to the Choo-Choo Supremacy.

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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:53 pm

I think there might be a few sentences missing from the last post.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Menna Shuli
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:14 pm

Miklania wrote:I think there might be a few sentences missing from the last post.

Where? It starts in media res...

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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:16 pm

A handsome face for an ugly business. And "

It abruptly stops there then goes on to another line.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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