Flame and Steel RP [OOC Thread]

[Kyavan]

Wait, Kyavan had a space fleet? Was that back in the Ashmore conflict, because I don't recall ever seeing it here.

I heard people mentioning Kyavan's satellites and stuff. Considering the fact nobody would even attack a civilian satellite (because that's a war crime on two fronts), I presumed it was a military satellite (which in itself is a war crime, but then again, we have people with chemical weapons flaunting them out in public).

And illegal blockades *cough cough*

[Kyavan]

No space fleets guys, I feel like thats stretching the boundaries a bit. Yes, the tech exists but no your not using it. And WCC, no to the super plague; final warning. I'm drawing the line here: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ line has been drawn. Dont do it again

[The Chuck]

No space fleets guys, I feel like thats stretching the boundaries a bit. Yes, the tech exists but no your not using it

^ This is what I figured we were doing. Also, Kinetic bombardment does not actually exist I.R.L. It is merely a hypothetical, not a reality.

[Kyavan]

No space fleets guys, I feel like thats stretching the boundaries a bit. Yes, the tech exists but no your not using it

^ This is what I figured we were doing. Also, Kinetic bombardment does not actually exist I.R.L. It is merely a hypothetical, not a reality.

I blame COD

[The Chuck]

^ This is what I figured we were doing. Also, Kinetic bombardment does not actually exist I.R.L. It is merely a hypothetical, not a reality.

I blame COD

true, though I use tech that actually has been created/is within the realm of reality that isn't a W.M.D. or lasers in space simply because... Sending shit to space would make you go bankrupt faster than a 1929 stock broker.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

No space fleets guys, I feel like thats stretching the boundaries a bit. Yes, the tech exists but no your not using it

I actually do have a valid reason behind it. (This probably isn't lore in the RP, but here goes..)

During the Cold War, after the successful launch of Sputnik 1, the British decided, along with the Americans and Germans, to form the "Transatlantic Space Association", firstly launching Neptune and Romandie, in 1960 and 1963 respectively (With Romandie landing on the Moon!). However, after the Moon Landing in 1968 (along with several ones), the British had a bold but big idea: the militarisation of space. With this revolutionary idea, all members of the TSA, excluding France, had begun to work on the Purple Blight, or rather, Operation Zenith. Due to this, a military space race began, with Purple Blight launched on the 25th of October 1974, and so, Britain (as they were the main contributors to the project amid doubt in the USA), became recognised as the first nation to reach space with an armed rocket. The Soviets followed less than a year later on the 18th of July 1975, launching KCCCP Leningrad. Further records were made, as Iron York and Tournè launched in 1979 and 1981 respectively. They were large at first, owing to the payload:force ratio needed on Earth, but they soon got smaller as more powerful engines developed. The first space drones, known as the Cyberspace Regiment collectively, were launched in 2012 as a continuation of the programme. First, regular missiles were loaded on to them, then nuclear missiles, and now, lasers along with large metal balls used to crush objects known as the Artificial Asteroids.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

No space fleets guys, I feel like thats stretching the boundaries a bit. Yes, the tech exists but no your not using it

^ This is what I figured we were doing. Also, Kinetic bombardment does not actually exist I.R.L. It is merely a hypothetical, not a reality.

Well, it's physically possible and is basically a better, cheaper version of a nuclear bomb. The spaceship is expensive, yes, but so is uranium.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I blame COD

true, though I use tech that actually has been created/is within the realm of reality that isn't a W.M.D. or lasers in space simply because... Sending shit to space would make you go bankrupt faster than a 1929 stock broker.

All I do is use principles possible in physics, study them to ensure cost effectiveness (basically getting your bang for your buck), and then begin research. |

Or in the case of my other weapons and genetic modification, biology and chemistry.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

^ This is what I figured we were doing. Also, Kinetic bombardment does not actually exist I.R.L. It is merely a hypothetical, not a reality.

I blame COD

I don't play COD.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I'd also like to note to everyone that most nations here are armed with nuclear weapons.

[The Chuck]

I'd also like to note to everyone that most nations here are armed with nuclear weapons.

M.A.D. Doctrine at it's finest.

[Ukraniumstan]

I'd also like to note to everyone that most nations here are armed with nuclear weapons.

Kyavan, Port Ember, and Paddy are the only ones with nuclear weapons. Everyone else is allowed to use nuclear tech and produce uranium, but they cannot manufacture nukes(Correct?)

I like the idea of kinetic bombardment. Like EMP, it is not that far of a stretch. Just please don't spam it. My nation used 2 of its 3 emp weapons, and won't make more for a while.

[The Chuck]

I'd also like to note to everyone that most nations here are armed with nuclear weapons.

Kyavan, Port Ember, and Paddy are the only ones with nuclear weapons. Everyone else is allowed to use nuclear tech and produce uranium, but they cannot manufacture nukes(Correct?)

I like the idea of kinetic bombardment. Like EMP, it is not that far of a stretch. Just please don't spam it. My nation used 2 of its 3 emp weapons, and won't make more for a while.

We possess nuclear weaponry as a defensive measure... Our doctrine is never to use it in an offensive capability.

[Paddy O Fernature]

to be honest, I'm open to a few months of all out war before the summit. As long as ya'll don't go nuclear first, because thats my job

TBH, I actually don't have any plans of going nuclear at this point, as I really don't have any reason IC or OOC for their logical use. I personally would like to keep it that way if possible, as I would rather write about other things besides *Flash* My Army Dies, followed by *Flash* A nation ceases to exists in retaliation.

Wait, Kyavan had a space fleet? Was that back in the Ashmore conflict, because I don't recall ever seeing it here.

I heard people mentioning Kyavan's satellites and stuff. Considering the fact nobody would even attack a civilian satellite (because that's a war crime on two fronts), I presumed it was a military satellite (which in itself is a war crime, but then again, we have people with chemical weapons flaunting them out in public).

*Ahem*

You may consider it a warcrime, others will respectfully disagree with that viewpoint.

No space fleets guys, I feel like thats stretching the boundaries a bit. Yes, the tech exists but no your not using it

^ This is what I figured we were doing. Also, Kinetic bombardment does not actually exist I.R.L. It is merely a hypothetical, not a reality.

That we know of...

The science behind "Rods of God" or "project Thor" as it was originally known as by it's conceptualizer Jerry Pournelle, is sound. You basically are dropping a Tungsten telephone pole from high orbit toward the ground and letting gravity do the rest. The only reason why these don't exist is because at the time (and still today) the sheer cost of placing these into orbit places them outside the realm of what's reasonable.

The grey area people on NS run into is that it's generally accepted that nations have unlimited resources, manpower, and to a point money after a certain point, and projects such as these would technically be possible by "NS Realism" standards. RP wise in the past, my Dominion has used these weapons on several occasions successfully against foreign aggression, mainly people who spam million + man formations of infantry as deploying one rod and wiping out half his manpower in the field with one go would actually make sense. However, the downside is that these weapons if launched repeatedly in a general area have a realistic chance of literally upsetting the tectonic plate stability and can inadvertently cause some serious negative side effects. Good example of this was in a Golgoth RP a few years ago where these weapons were literally used to create a physical rift to seal off a super aggressive nation at the cost of literally wiping out another nation in apocalyptic scale earth quakes and plate sheering.

My two cents on the matter.

I'd also like to note to everyone that most nations here are armed with nuclear weapons.

Kyavan, Port Ember, and Paddy are the only ones with nuclear weapons. Everyone else is allowed to use nuclear tech and produce uranium, but they cannot manufacture nukes(Correct?)

I like the idea of kinetic bombardment. Like EMP, it is not that far of a stretch. Just please don't spam it. My nation used 2 of its 3 emp weapons, and won't make more for a while.

For the record, I am a Nuclear Nation. However, it's much smaller then what people tend to think nations my size posses as around...2016 I think, I started downsizing considerably and pumping the money instead into deterrents, defenses, and civilian protection projects thus creating a multi layered defense that on paper should have a fairly high percentage of success compared to more traditional methods currently employed IRL.

[The Chuck]

to be honest, I'm open to a few months of all out war before the summit. As long as ya'll don't go nuclear first, because thats my job

TBH, I actually don't have any plans of going nuclear at this point, as I really don't have any reason IC or OOC for their logical use. I personally would like to keep it that way if possible, as I would rather write about other things besides *Flash* My Army Dies, followed by *Flash* A nation ceases to exists in retaliation.

I heard people mentioning Kyavan's satellites and stuff. Considering the fact nobody would even attack a civilian satellite (because that's a war crime on two fronts), I presumed it was a military satellite (which in itself is a war crime, but then again, we have people with chemical weapons flaunting them out in public).

*Ahem*

You may consider it a warcrime, others will respectfully disagree with that viewpoint.

^ This is what I figured we were doing. Also, Kinetic bombardment does not actually exist I.R.L. It is merely a hypothetical, not a reality.

That we know of...

The science behind "Rods of God" or "project Thor" as it was originally known as by it's conceptualizer Jerry Pournelle, is sound. You basically are dropping a Tungsten telephone pole from high orbit toward the ground and letting gravity do the rest. The only reason why these don't exist is because at the time (and still today) the sheer cost of placing these into orbit places them outside the realm of what's reasonable.

The grey area people on NS run into is that it's generally accepted that nations have unlimited resources, manpower, and to a point money after a certain point, and projects such as these would technically be possible by "NS Realism" standards. RP wise in the past, my Dominion has used these weapons on several occasions successfully against foreign aggression, mainly people who spam million + man formations of infantry as deploying one rod and wiping out half his manpower in the field with one go would actually make sense. However, the downside is that these weapons if launched repeatedly in a general area have a realistic chance of literally upsetting the tectonic plate stability and can inadvertently cause some serious negative side effects. Good example of this was in a Golgoth RP a few years ago where these weapons were literally used to create a physical rift to seal off a super aggressive nation at the cost of literally wiping out another nation in apocalyptic scale earth quakes and plate sheering.

My two cents on the matter.

Kyavan, Port Ember, and Paddy are the only ones with nuclear weapons. Everyone else is allowed to use nuclear tech and produce uranium, but they cannot manufacture nukes(Correct?)

I like the idea of kinetic bombardment. Like EMP, it is not that far of a stretch. Just please don't spam it. My nation used 2 of its 3 emp weapons, and won't make more for a while.

For the record, I am a Nuclear Nation. However, it's much smaller then what people tend to think nations my size posses as around...2016 I think, I started downsizing considerably and pumping the money instead into deterrents, defenses, and civilian protection projects thus creating a multi layered defense that on paper should have a fairly high percentage of success compared to more traditional methods currently employed IRL.

Indeed with the Rods from God being sound. Hell, I'm in the process of employing such technology in my canon lore and have already purchased a shit load of tungsten from other nations in exchange for the resources we possess. I attempt to keep it "realistic" and as such my nation relies predominantly on nuclear weaponry as our deterrent simply because of cost. It will cost a shit ton to send a project like Project Thor into space so why waste funds on that when you can drop Oppenheimer's baby on someone instead...

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

TBH, I actually don't have any plans of going nuclear at this point, as I really don't have any reason IC or OOC for their logical use. I personally would like to keep it that way if possible, as I would rather write about other things besides *Flash* My Army Dies, followed by *Flash* A nation ceases to exists in retaliation.



*Ahem*

You may consider it a warcrime, others will respectfully disagree with that viewpoint.



That we know of...

The science behind "Rods of God" or "project Thor" as it was originally known as by it's conceptualizer Jerry Pournelle, is sound. You basically are dropping a Tungsten telephone pole from high orbit toward the ground and letting gravity do the rest. The only reason why these don't exist is because at the time (and still today) the sheer cost of placing these into orbit places them outside the realm of what's reasonable.

The grey area people on NS run into is that it's generally accepted that nations have unlimited resources, manpower, and to a point money after a certain point, and projects such as these would technically be possible by "NS Realism" standards. RP wise in the past, my Dominion has used these weapons on several occasions successfully against foreign aggression, mainly people who spam million + man formations of infantry as deploying one rod and wiping out half his manpower in the field with one go would actually make sense. However, the downside is that these weapons if launched repeatedly in a general area have a realistic chance of literally upsetting the tectonic plate stability and can inadvertently cause some serious negative side effects. Good example of this was in a Golgoth RP a few years ago where these weapons were literally used to create a physical rift to seal off a super aggressive nation at the cost of literally wiping out another nation in apocalyptic scale earth quakes and plate sheering.

My two cents on the matter.



For the record, I am a Nuclear Nation. However, it's much smaller then what people tend to think nations my size posses as around...2016 I think, I started downsizing considerably and pumping the money instead into deterrents, defenses, and civilian protection projects thus creating a multi layered defense that on paper should have a fairly high percentage of success compared to more traditional methods currently employed IRL.

Indeed with the Rods from God being sound. Hell, I'm in the process of employing such technology in my canon lore and have already purchased a shit load of tungsten from other nations in exchange for the resources we possess. I attempt to keep it "realistic" and as such my nation relies predominantly on nuclear weaponry as our deterrent simply because of cost. It will cost a shit ton to send a project like Project Thor into space so why waste funds on that when you can drop Oppenheimer's baby on someone instead...

We use it due to a less-than-abundant supply of uranium, even with the Congo and Indonesia, along with our large space infrastructure. Our nation, whilst I've dialed down the FTness, is still more advanced than most other nations, and I've balanced for this by reducing the amount of manpower and stuff.

[The Chuck]

Indeed with the Rods from God being sound. Hell, I'm in the process of employing such technology in my canon lore and have already purchased a shit load of tungsten from other nations in exchange for the resources we possess. I attempt to keep it "realistic" and as such my nation relies predominantly on nuclear weaponry as our deterrent simply because of cost. It will cost a shit ton to send a project like Project Thor into space so why waste funds on that when you can drop Oppenheimer's baby on someone instead...

We use it due to a less-than-abundant supply of uranium, even with the Congo and Indonesia, along with our large space infrastructure. Our nation, whilst I've dialed down the FTness, is still more advanced than most other nations, and I've balanced for this by reducing the amount of manpower and stuff.

Erm... Possessing the Congo IRL should give any nstion more than enough fissionable material for a large amount of nuclear weapons. Hell, you can make other W.M.D.S at a fraction of the cost of putting a satellite into orbit. Chemical/Biological weapons are viable (yes I see you are doing that) and even using Thorium to make thermonuclear weapons is a viable possibility.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

We use it due to a less-than-abundant supply of uranium, even with the Congo and Indonesia, along with our large space infrastructure. Our nation, whilst I've dialed down the FTness, is still more advanced than most other nations, and I've balanced for this by reducing the amount of manpower and stuff.

Erm... Possessing the Congo IRL should give any nstion more than enough fissionable material for a large amount of nuclear weapons. Hell, you can make other W.M.D.S at a fraction of the cost of putting a satellite into orbit. Chemical/Biological weapons are viable (yes I see you are doing that) and even using Thorium to make thermonuclear weapons is a viable possibility.

Ahh yes, but we use it mostly for nuclear power plants. And we do have about 3,000 nuclear bombs, most left over from the Cold War. We possess the nuclear triad, but we're slowly moving away from nuclear weapons. Our space infrastructure has already been built, so why waste it?

EDIT: I once made an entire disease file for RDX-12, but my network suddenly refreshed every page and so it got oofed.

[The Chuck]

Ouch to the files. Though don't forget that you can use spent nuclear fuel in reactors for nuclear weapons too.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Ouch to the files. Though don't forget that you can use spent nuclear fuel in reactors for nuclear weapons too.

That's basically what most of our modern nuclear weapons are made out of these days...

[Paddy O Fernature]

Still working on my replies. No ETA, but hopefully before close of the day today.

[Jasonvillee]

I'd also like to note to everyone that most nations here are armed with nuclear weapons.

not me lol

[Jasonvillee]

Also, Ukraniumstan you need to read the reply I sent you about you sending your ships in my waters

[Jasonvillee]

also to the guys who are wondering why Jasonville is named after the Prime Minister, its because lots of people named Jason(or Jason in a different language) helped make Jasonville. Also Jason is a person in the bible who helped Paul and some other Christians find refuge, and Jasonville is a nation of refuge to those who need help. And PM Jason's term still hasn't ended

just so yeh know

[Jasonvillee]

hey, can we have one nuclear strike?

I saw a guide on the NS forums, teaching people how to use nukes in rps in a way it doesnt turn into madness.

Maybe not to destroy cities or entire nations, but why not for small fleets? Would be a way to end the current war

(okay i admit i just really want the Jasonville proxy war to happen lol)