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Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God [OOC]

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Which Fraction do you Support?

None
5
7%
Government
13
19%
Moralists
3
4%
Nationalists
9
13%
Royalists
12
18%
Renegades
8
12%
Seperatists
6
9%
Stateists
11
16%
 
Total votes : 67

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Newark Aristocracy
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 356
Founded: Nov 10, 2018
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Newark Aristocracy » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:52 pm

Posteastan wrote:
Great Nortend wrote:I expect Posteastan is busy.


Indeed I am. I try to be as fast as I can but sometimes it will take a while to reply. I like to do things in one post but I have really kept the paras waiting for a bit long.

In regard to ISIS, well there are no ISIS cells in Posteastan. Posteastan has never been involved in the middle eastern conflict. We have nationalists and we have moralists and I can offer you the organized crime syndicates but there is no ISIS involvement.


What about ISIS support of the organized crime syndicate?
News:Threat Sent to Lethan Empire!/Bases of the Crazybloxian Empire Found in Force!/We are winning the war with the "New Lands"!/Department of Defense acquires Bär APCs!/Sniper Shoots a Miltary Police officer!/All Nukes are armed!/Invasion of Widerflolkland started/Aid sent to Kuronami/That's all for now!
Monarch City PD Coms:All units,we need some  security teams at Monarch International in preparation for the NASJAR race this weekend.

Monarch City Fire/EMS Coms:
We have a fire at 93 Airport Bvld.
Also we need a Med-Evac Helicopter in preparation for this weekends NASJAR race.

We are MT with some PMT elements such as the DOS Cannon and the T.H.E.O.
We also support ISIS ICly.

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Lux Pulchrae
Diplomat
 
Posts: 831
Founded: May 15, 2017
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Lux Pulchrae » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:57 pm

Oh boy that's a lot of reading in the IC. I guess a recap would be too much to ask. Is it too late to join though? Kind of want to do a 'play both sides' kind of thing where the official government supports one faction (don't know which one yet) while behind its back someone else (either government spooks or one of the crime families) does business with either the Syndicate or some other faction. Always wanted to do an arms trader angle.

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Posteastan
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Posts: 82
Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Posteastan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:05 am

Newark Aristocracy wrote:
Posteastan wrote:
Indeed I am. I try to be as fast as I can but sometimes it will take a while to reply. I like to do things in one post but I have really kept the paras waiting for a bit long.

In regard to ISIS, well there are no ISIS cells in Posteastan. Posteastan has never been involved in the middle eastern conflict. We have nationalists and we have moralists and I can offer you the organized crime syndicates but there is no ISIS involvement.


What about ISIS support of the organized crime syndicate?

There would not be too much trust between the two. But the syndicate would sell weapons to everybody. On a pay now get your delivery later basis.

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Posteastan
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Posts: 82
Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Posteastan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:07 am

Lux Pulchrae wrote:Oh boy that's a lot of reading in the IC. I guess a recap would be too much to ask. Is it too late to join though? Kind of want to do a 'play both sides' kind of thing where the official government supports one faction (don't know which one yet) while behind its back someone else (either government spooks or one of the crime families) does business with either the Syndicate or some other faction. Always wanted to do an arms trader angle.


Arms trader is great. Yeah, join. You are welcome. A very short recap would be: Posteastan is in a deep heap of fertelizer. Than you have to pick a point of view and things are becoming complicated. Right now a hand full of different groups fight for some control over the nation. Each group with a bit of outside support. I hope that someone has the time to give a bit more detail.

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Uan aa Boa
Diplomat
 
Posts: 613
Founded: Apr 23, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Uan aa Boa » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:33 am

Caracasus wrote:Fellow Forestians, how do you all want to handle the summit? We could do it in this RP, or create a sperate self contained short RP for the summit. Either approach has worked in the past.

We seem to be managing to exchange opinions in this thread without too much difficulty.

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Caracasus
Issues Editor
 
Posts: 6613
Founded: Apr 23, 2015
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Caracasus » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:01 am

Uan aa Boa wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Fellow Forestians, how do you all want to handle the summit? We could do it in this RP, or create a sperate self contained short RP for the summit. Either approach has worked in the past.

We seem to be managing to exchange opinions in this thread without too much difficulty.


Fair enough, reckon we will continue with that then!
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



Issues editor, not a moderator.

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Posteastan
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Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Posteastan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:13 pm

Caracasus wrote:
Uan aa Boa wrote:We seem to be managing to exchange opinions in this thread without too much difficulty.


Fair enough, reckon we will continue with that then!

Yes, stay in the thread please. It is confusing enough as it is now.

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Great Nortend
Diplomat
 
Posts: 803
Founded: Jul 08, 2017
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Great Nortend » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:29 pm

I've been mostly ignoring what's been happening regarding the other parties. I'll be sending a diplomatic courier to Leozina so hopefully I'll have some more interaction. If any of you want, I suspect it would generate some interest in diplomatic and intelligence services having a messenger arrive. On paper Great Nortend 'recognises' the Republic of Posteastan but in practice it supports the restoration of the monarchy. Relations have always been somewhat tense, especially as Great Nortend harbours the 'pretender' to the throne. I would like to know, however, Posteastan, what the situation in Posteastan is like currently. Is there the chance of a summary of the major threads of action? It's all a bit confusing for me.
Last edited by Great Nortend on Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
News from Great Nortend: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417866
Tourism and Q&A thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=458726
Diplomacy, Embassies &c.: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865
If you have any questions about Great Nortend, please ask in the diplomacy thread above.

This nation generally represents my personal views in most areas, though slightly exaggerated perhaps.

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Uan aa Boa
Diplomat
 
Posts: 613
Founded: Apr 23, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Uan aa Boa » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:45 am

Great Nortend wrote:I've been mostly ignoring what's been happening regarding the other parties. I'll be sending a diplomatic courier to Leozina so hopefully I'll have some more interaction. If any of you want, I suspect it would generate some interest in diplomatic and intelligence services having a messenger arrive. On paper Great Nortend 'recognises' the Republic of Posteastan but in practice it supports the restoration of the monarchy. Relations have always been somewhat tense, especially as Great Nortend harbours the 'pretender' to the throne. I would like to know, however, Posteastan, what the situation in Posteastan is like currently. Is there the chance of a summary of the major threads of action? It's all a bit confusing for me.

With respect, because I've RPed with you before and I know you're good at it, Posteastan is putting an enormous amount of effort into this and I don't think they should also feel obliged to save the rest of us from reading a thread that's only on page 3 so far. It is complex, but it's only fair to meet the OP somewhere in the middle.

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Great Nortend
Diplomat
 
Posts: 803
Founded: Jul 08, 2017
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Great Nortend » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:53 am

I didn't mean summarise what's happened; I mean summarise the current actual status of Posteastan rather than the biased accounts. Something like in the original OP's 'moral' 'strength' stuff. If this is contained already in the RP posts, I suppose I'll re-read them all.
News from Great Nortend: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417866
Tourism and Q&A thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=458726
Diplomacy, Embassies &c.: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865
If you have any questions about Great Nortend, please ask in the diplomacy thread above.

This nation generally represents my personal views in most areas, though slightly exaggerated perhaps.

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Posteastan
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Posts: 82
Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Posteastan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:30 am

Uan aa Boa wrote:
Great Nortend wrote:I've been mostly ignoring what's been happening regarding the other parties. I'll be sending a diplomatic courier to Leozina so hopefully I'll have some more interaction. If any of you want, I suspect it would generate some interest in diplomatic and intelligence services having a messenger arrive. On paper Great Nortend 'recognises' the Republic of Posteastan but in practice it supports the restoration of the monarchy. Relations have always been somewhat tense, especially as Great Nortend harbours the 'pretender' to the throne. I would like to know, however, Posteastan, what the situation in Posteastan is like currently. Is there the chance of a summary of the major threads of action? It's all a bit confusing for me.

With respect, because I've RPed with you before and I know you're good at it, Posteastan is putting an enormous amount of effort into this and I don't think they should also feel obliged to save the rest of us from reading a thread that's only on page 3 so far. It is complex, but it's only fair to meet the OP somewhere in the middle.


Thank you very much! And thank you too Great Nortend, your compliment from a few pages before has not been unnoticed. I try to put up a summary but it will take time. I'm working on it at the moment but also on a map for the Leozina airport...and...stuff.

The moral and stuff will change in a few hours time. A wise man has once pointed out: "Three fractions would do as well..." or something along that line. If I had listened I had a lot less to do.

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Great Nortend
Diplomat
 
Posts: 803
Founded: Jul 08, 2017
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Great Nortend » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:59 am

I hope you don't mind that I've pushed forwards a little bit then. My plan is to liase with the Rasvan fellow to corral the people to plight their troth to the King and Leozina. I've sort of assumed that Leozina is in fairly good shape, since it still has an airport, and that there is a society of people still left there, unlike Tabalov which seems to be a post-war disaster zone. If this is wrong, please let me know and I'll correct stuff!

I'm not sure how the RP with Rasvan Luca is going to go. Can I assume that he will support our plan and just put the plan into action or should I wait for you to RP a conversation. I think the first option would be best if you're pretty busy with other things, but that would mean I might be overstepping the bounds into 'godmodding'. Also, Rivienland, I haven't forgotten you.
News from Great Nortend: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417866
Tourism and Q&A thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=458726
Diplomacy, Embassies &c.: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865
If you have any questions about Great Nortend, please ask in the diplomacy thread above.

This nation generally represents my personal views in most areas, though slightly exaggerated perhaps.

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Posteastan
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Posts: 82
Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Posteastan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:12 am

Great Nortend wrote:I hope you don't mind that I've pushed forwards a little bit then. My plan is to liase with the Rasvan fellow to corral the people to plight their troth to the King and Leozina. I've sort of assumed that Leozina is in fairly good shape, since it still has an airport, and that there is a society of people still left there, unlike Tabalov which seems to be a post-war disaster zone. If this is wrong, please let me know and I'll correct stuff!

I'm not sure how the RP with Rasvan Luca is going to go. Can I assume that he will support our plan and just put the plan into action or should I wait for you to RP a conversation. I think the first option would be best if you're pretty busy with other things, but that would mean I might be overstepping the bounds into 'godmodding'. Also, Rivienland, I haven't forgotten you.


No, this is actually good. You are all free to form Posteastan after your imagination. I tried to portrait the city that way. Riots instead of gun fights and people who are able to go on strike. You need work for that. Everything is fine so far. I like it. You are all free to add some falvor and include your own views.

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Coryanhafflaruda
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 15
Founded: Jan 24, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Coryanhafflaruda » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:25 am

I will Support the Monarchy and will bring aid and ammunition to them

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Great Nortend
Diplomat
 
Posts: 803
Founded: Jul 08, 2017
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Great Nortend » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:00 am

I would suggest that you make contact with Sir Alexander first, given that you're supporting the monarchy, and get his blessing. Ammunition would be great, if you could get it into the country, as well as supplies (especially if they're with Royal approval by Sir Alexander, which would help boost morale and respect for him methinks).
News from Great Nortend: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417866
Tourism and Q&A thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=458726
Diplomacy, Embassies &c.: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865
If you have any questions about Great Nortend, please ask in the diplomacy thread above.

This nation generally represents my personal views in most areas, though slightly exaggerated perhaps.

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Lux Pulchrae
Diplomat
 
Posts: 831
Founded: May 15, 2017
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Lux Pulchrae » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:22 am

Hope you won't mind an extra hand Nortend

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Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics
Secretary
 
Posts: 27
Founded: Jun 21, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:05 am

Let's see where this goes.
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Great Nortend
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Founded: Jul 08, 2017
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Great Nortend » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:36 am

Lux Pulchrae, no I don't mind at all. This is Posteastan's RP anyway, not mine. If you want to band together with me and Rivienland, that could work as a 'royalist' support base. My plan for Leozina at least would require quite a bit of foreign money, as there would be established a new currency partially backed by foreign money to counter the very hyperinflated and worthless Bozia, which Posteastan has suggested would be named the 'Leu', (plural lei) after the old currency of the Kingdom, meaning 'Lion'. Posteastan will have to say how much the average wage is in Leozina and the price of goods to balance this correctly. Bank-notes would be issued first and redeemable for food, cloth, firearms, ammunition and general goods from the aid shipment.

Alternatively, another plan could be proposed by Rivienland or you, Lux Pulchrae, if you want to join in our 'alliance' as it were.
Last edited by Great Nortend on Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
News from Great Nortend: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417866
Tourism and Q&A thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=458726
Diplomacy, Embassies &c.: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865
If you have any questions about Great Nortend, please ask in the diplomacy thread above.

This nation generally represents my personal views in most areas, though slightly exaggerated perhaps.

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Posteastan
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Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Posteastan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:52 am

Please to all check if you are on the list at the correct place. I need your help with that. This is not official yet this is just my summary of the current situation.

Royalists (Kingdom of Posteastan)
Party: Royalist Party
Recognized by: Lux Pulchrae
Supporters: Great Nortend, Lux Pulchrae, Rivienland
Votes: 20%
Result: Political support as well as the promises of monetary and military support. Moral moves up two levels to High. The Royalists have held demonstrations in favor of the King and have taken control over the broadcasting station in Leozina.

Stateists (Democratic Republic of Posteastan)
Recognized by: -
Supporters: Uan aa Boa, Karevka, Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics
Votes: 17%
Results: Direct military support, high level of international support. Moral shifts to High. The stateists have withdrawn their support for Valaska and are now acting fully independent.

Telinburg Government (Republic of Posteastan)
Recognized by: Allanea, Cat-Herders United, Danlina, Kenmoria,
Supporters: Allanea, Kenmoria
Votes: 15%
Results: Humanitarian aid, counter terrorist operations, slow reconstruction of infrastructure. Influx of money. Moral goes up one level to: Low. Valaska accepted as the de facto ruler by most nations involved.

Renegades (Federal Republic of Posteastan)
Recognized by: -
Supporters: -
Votes: 13%
Results: They are the renegades, they do not care about your thoughts.

Nationalists (Confederacy of Posteastan)
Party: Patriotic Block
Recognized by: Schwarzenfels
Supporters: Schwarzenfels
Votes: 11%
Results: International recognition, promise of military support, propaganda support. Moral shifts to high. The nationalists have formed a party and have managed to gain international support and recognition.

Seperatists (Kolvce Free State)
Recognized by: -
Supporters: -
Votes: 9%
Results: Flu outbreak, low international interest. Moral goes down one level to Stable.

Moralists (Christian Nation of Posteastan)
Recognized by: -
Supporters: Allanea
Votes: 6%
Results: Military support, training and equipment received. Moral remains high. The Moralists will step up operations. Their intel has done some damage to the syndicate.

Patriarchs: Adam Nechita is making a nice profit from all the activity in his native Roztechko.

Syndicate: You win some, you lose some its all a game.

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Uan aa Boa
Diplomat
 
Posts: 613
Founded: Apr 23, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Uan aa Boa » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:21 am

Posteastan wrote:Stateists (Democratic Republic of Posteastan)
Supporters: Uan aa Boa...

No, we're rethinking that. Assuming we have IC access to intelligence supporting your OOC point that "taking money from communists or help in any other form would instantly discredit them," we feel Tavitian jumping at the chance to stand in solidarity with Uan aa Boa is either disingenuous, incompetent or both and we're aware he could be saying equally enthusiastic things to nations with a very different ideology. While his is the most promising of the factions we don't trust him enough to declare open support.

What we will do, with your approval, is publish intelligence linking the Oligarchs' support for Valescu to their acquisition of permits and contracts that will leave them, when the dust settles, holding most of the cards in a functioning modern private sector of the type Posteasten hasn't seen up until now. We will then condemn the government and its international supporters as corrupt parties to asset stripping. Can you let me know if that would be reasonably accurate in factual terms before it receives our particular spin?

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Posteastan
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Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Posteastan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:02 pm

Uan aa Boa wrote:
Posteastan wrote:Stateists (Democratic Republic of Posteastan)
Supporters: Uan aa Boa...

No, we're rethinking that. Assuming we have IC access to intelligence supporting your OOC point that "taking money from communists or help in any other form would instantly discredit them," we feel Tavitian jumping at the chance to stand in solidarity with Uan aa Boa is either disingenuous, incompetent or both and we're aware he could be saying equally enthusiastic things to nations with a very different ideology. While his is the most promising of the factions we don't trust him enough to declare open support.

What we will do, with your approval, is publish intelligence linking the Oligarchs' support for Valescu to their acquisition of permits and contracts that will leave them, when the dust settles, holding most of the cards in a functioning modern private sector of the type Posteasten hasn't seen up until now. We will then condemn the government and its international supporters as corrupt parties to asset stripping. Can you let me know if that would be reasonably accurate in factual terms before it receives our particular spin?

Seems fine.

To all others: I have not missed your posts. More is to follow soon.

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Karevka
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 47
Founded: Jan 16, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Karevka » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:24 pm

Posteastan, how do you want to play the airport battle?

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Great Nortend
Diplomat
 
Posts: 803
Founded: Jul 08, 2017
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Great Nortend » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:29 pm

I am slightly confused as to whether Jack and the paratroopers are actual National Guardsmen or if they're part of some other group and only masquerading as them.
News from Great Nortend: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417866
Tourism and Q&A thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=458726
Diplomacy, Embassies &c.: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865
If you have any questions about Great Nortend, please ask in the diplomacy thread above.

This nation generally represents my personal views in most areas, though slightly exaggerated perhaps.

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Karevka
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 47
Founded: Jan 16, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Karevka » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:55 pm

Great Nortend wrote:I am slightly confused as to whether Jack and the paratroopers are actual National Guardsmen or if they're part of some other group and only masquerading as them.


They're masquerading as National Guardsmen.

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Great Nortend
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Posts: 803
Founded: Jul 08, 2017
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Great Nortend » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:38 pm

Aha; I thought so. I must've missed that entire strand.
News from Great Nortend: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417866
Tourism and Q&A thread: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=458726
Diplomacy, Embassies &c.: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865
If you have any questions about Great Nortend, please ask in the diplomacy thread above.

This nation generally represents my personal views in most areas, though slightly exaggerated perhaps.

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