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Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God [OOC]

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Which Fraction do you Support?

None
24
11%
Government
40
19%
Moralists
13
6%
Nationalists
28
13%
Royalists
41
19%
Renegades
39
18%
Seperatists
11
5%
Stateists
17
8%
 
Total votes : 213

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Uan aa Boa
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1130
Founded: Apr 23, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Uan aa Boa » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:29 am

Probably also better throw in that hostility to Lux Pulchrae is completely IC. I really enjoy reading your extremely well written posts.

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Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:33 am

Uan aa Boa wrote:I have a bit of a problem now, because in my last IC post I'd meant to indicate that the Boani ships were watching in frustrated helplessness as IDS sailed by them - apologies if that wasn't sufficiently clear.

I'd then TGed Kenmoria to ask how they wanted to proceed but in the meantime Caracasus has joined the pile-in. Could we slow down until we sort this out?

It might be that the best solution is for me to edit my last post so that the Boani ships do square up to IDS in order to receive the 3 minute ultimatum. My feeling is that Kenmoria deserves to come out on top of this encounter, however, as the rest of the time they don't have much option but to passively absorb the sabotage and protests that get thrown at them.

Ah, I didn’t realise your post represented inactivity of just watching the IDS instead of inactivity in the form of a standoff. I have no issue with editing my post to reflect the Boani ships just watching the IDS, if that’s the way you want to proceed. On the other hand, your current latest post being edited to reflect a stand-off and subsequent posts detailing the Boanis standing aside would also work.
Rupudska wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:The Kjalårans are escorting them, using their military already in the water to protect ‘legitimate’ traffic. This has been agreed by TGs, so please tell me if the post leaves out important details where I’ve unintentionally filled in the blanks.


Usually it's best to describe what kind of ships you're being escorted by unless you've posted an ORBAT in either the IC or the OOC.

Mostly though I just want/need to know if any of the ships have substantial anti-submarine warfare capabilities.
The IDS ships have very few anti-submarine capabilities, as they weren’t expecting an attack. Detection is possible at very close range, but actually engaging in combat would be unsuccessful. I can’t, however, speak for Kjalåra, who’s ships may have better capabilities in that area than mine.
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My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

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Uan aa Boa
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Posts: 1130
Founded: Apr 23, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Uan aa Boa » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:44 am

Kenmoria wrote:Ah, I didn’t realise your post represented inactivity of just watching the IDS instead of inactivity in the form of a standoff. I have no issue with editing my post to reflect the Boani ships just watching the IDS, if that’s the way you want to proceed. On the other hand, your current latest post being edited to reflect a stand-off and subsequent posts detailing the Boanis standing aside would also work.

My bad, sorry. Reading back I can see that my post wasn't very clear about what was happening. There are now 2 posts after yours talking about a standoff, so I'm probably best going along with that and posting a Boani climbdown.
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Posteastan
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 180
Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Posteastan » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:00 pm

Kaystein wrote:Hey everybody, i've been messaging posteaston recently and gotten permission to get involved in the rp.

With that is one change to the map that everybody involved should know ASAP.

Vatgera is free from renegade control. Its a locally-controlled city now running a safe haven for refugees.

i will write a story about why that happened, as i talked to posteaston about. I will also rp separately to that static story simultaneously.

Added note: I do NOT control the city. Posteaston is OOC owner of it.


This is true. Vatgera is soon to be unter control of what will be called the "Red Sky Fraction" wait and see.

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Caracasus
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7918
Founded: Apr 23, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:59 pm

Alright so I kinda need a way out of the current situation.

As I see it, the closing Caracasusian fleet is gonna see jet fighters fly over the Caracasusian destroyer followed by the destroyer's communications being cut off.

At the moment I can't see a response other than kindly asking Cat Herders, Allanea, Balagan, Uan Aa Boa and anyone else with ships in the area not to target and sink the approaching ships and clear the skies...

I'd rather not do that if possible as I know others have plans for something else... thoughts?

At the moment I am thinking the order is given, it's a very tense couple of minutes, communication is restored and everyone goes to change their trousers.
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As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



Issues editor, not a moderator.

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Schwarzenfels
Secretary
 
Posts: 32
Founded: Dec 17, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Schwarzenfels » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:18 pm

Yeah I think the same. The attack on allied ships and the murder of peace-keepers can have no other logical consequence but all-out war.
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Caracasus
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Posts: 7918
Founded: Apr 23, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:24 pm

Eh. That'd be boring. I think that a way to ramp up but eventually defuse the tension would b better.

How about the storm? We have a stand off, the storm is about to hit and it forces all ships in the area friendly or otherwise to seek port?
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



Issues editor, not a moderator.

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Schwarzenfels
Secretary
 
Posts: 32
Founded: Dec 17, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Schwarzenfels » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:27 pm

Caracasus wrote:Eh. That'd be boring. I think that a way to ramp up but eventually defuse the tension would b better.

How about the storm? We have a stand off, the storm is about to hit and it forces all ships in the area friendly or otherwise to seek port?


To be honest, and that is strictly OOC I have no fucking idea what I am doing at the moment! Two pages ago I suppored the Nationalists, now the Royalists are the Fascists and I (as a Player!) support the gov who is the only one fighting the Royalists and the Nationalits! :shock:

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Caracasus
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7918
Founded: Apr 23, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:57 pm

Schwarzenfels wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Eh. That'd be boring. I think that a way to ramp up but eventually defuse the tension would b better.

How about the storm? We have a stand off, the storm is about to hit and it forces all ships in the area friendly or otherwise to seek port?


To be honest, and that is strictly OOC I have no fucking idea what I am doing at the moment! Two pages ago I suppored the Nationalists, now the Royalists are the Fascists and I (as a Player!) support the gov who is the only one fighting the Royalists and the Nationalits! :shock:


Oh god yeah, I love this kind of RP. It's like dancing on quicksand and hoping to god you grab onto a vine and not a poisonous snake.
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



Issues editor, not a moderator.

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Lux Pulchrae
Minister
 
Posts: 2221
Founded: May 15, 2017
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Postby Lux Pulchrae » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:28 pm

Schwarzenfels wrote:
To be honest, and that is strictly OOC I have no fucking idea what I am doing at the moment! Two pages ago I suppored the Nationalists, now the Royalists are the Fascists and I (as a Player!) support the gov who is the only one fighting the Royalists and the Nationalits! :shock:


To be fair and correct, the royalists are not fascist, but they are supported by Lux Pulchrae and we are a MONARCHICAL Fascist nation. The monarchy comes before fascism, as the king comes before the government. Fascism is a layer of his regalia.

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The World Capitalist Confederation
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12838
Founded: Dec 07, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:33 pm

Government, Moralists or Renegades...hmm...
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Posts: 12838
Founded: Dec 07, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:33 pm

Lux Pulchrae wrote:
Schwarzenfels wrote:
To be honest, and that is strictly OOC I have no fucking idea what I am doing at the moment! Two pages ago I suppored the Nationalists, now the Royalists are the Fascists and I (as a Player!) support the gov who is the only one fighting the Royalists and the Nationalits! :shock:


To be fair and correct, the royalists are not fascist, but they are supported by Lux Pulchrae and we are a MONARCHICAL Fascist nation. The monarchy comes before fascism, as the king comes before the government. Fascism is a layer of his regalia.

Oh hi fellow monarcho-fascist.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Posts: 27926
Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:35 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Government, Moralists or Renegades...hmm...

You could always join Kenmoria who supports the human traffickers with tank divisions (Syndicalists) because capitalism <.< >.>
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Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:49 pm

For clarification, my most recent post, about the response to Caracasus, was co-written with Kjalåra, I haven’t just taken control of the Kjalåran commander.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Government, Moralists or Renegades...hmm...

You could always join Kenmoria who supports the human traffickers with tank divisions (Syndicalists) because capitalism <.< >.>

It would certainly be interesting to see how the different brands of Capitalism interact, whether on the same side or in opposition.
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

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The World Capitalist Confederation
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12838
Founded: Dec 07, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:56 pm

I want to interact with Serban Theodeuresceu or whatever his name was. Can I do this, OP?
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Posteastan
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Posts: 180
Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Posteastan » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:17 pm

Six done, four to go. And I have not even taken the new events into consideration.

React to the assault on the Syndicate
Some more deathship hints(it has to wait)
Fractions reaction to Allanea's diplomacy
Assassination attempt on president
Naval bombardment of national guard
[voided]! (Good, that saves me some time)
Lux Pulchrae and the tightening of discipline
The coming storm
Wright Takeover
Exclusion Zone

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Posteastan
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Posts: 180
Founded: Aug 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Posteastan » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:19 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I want to interact with Serban Theodeuresceu or whatever his name was. Can I do this, OP?

Sure. Send him a mail bomb. Or a present basket. This RP is always open. Now I have to read the last post becaue I did not get it. Took me so long to do my duty.

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Kaystein
Diplomat
 
Posts: 653
Founded: Jan 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Kaystein » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:34 pm

Caracasus wrote:Alright so I kinda need a way out of the current situation.

As I see it, the closing Caracasusian fleet is gonna see jet fighters fly over the Caracasusian destroyer followed by the destroyer's communications being cut off.

At the moment I can't see a response other than kindly asking Cat Herders, Allanea, Balagan, Uan Aa Boa and anyone else with ships in the area not to target and sink the approaching ships and clear the skies...

I'd rather not do that if possible as I know others have plans for something else... thoughts?

At the moment I am thinking the order is given, it's a very tense couple of minutes, communication is restored and everyone goes to change their trousers.


There can be shooting wars without all-out war. Politicians and militaries can have different objectives; different plans, thoughts, feelings, etc.

Don't be afraid of pursuing conflict; it's a part of what makes stories interesting.

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Rivienland
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 103
Founded: Oct 14, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Rivienland » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:50 pm

First, while I wouldn't want to see a war breakout, I do think it be funny seeing something like two opposing ships accidentally getting thrown into each other during the storm, and then that being interpreted as an act of aggression by each nation. Regardless, it's fun to watch Cuban Missile Crisis RP.

Second, I'm not too sure how to proceed with the Royalists. With Forest basically condemning the faction, Rivienland is basically taking a risk by still supporting them. Also, domestically, I would say public opinion at this point would be in favor of withdrawing from the conflict on a government level. Individually, I'm considering maybe answering the call for volunteers to come to Kolvce. Playing on this idea of overpopulation in Rivienland, adventurous, or idealistic, individuals could be tempted to the call to support Kolvce. I have never done any military/rebellion RP before so it be new, but the potential stories could be fun!

Third, I'm not sure if I will continue with Sir Edourard's mission to meet King Alexandru. With the Royalist mission wavering, he might just be recalled. Generally, I've been holding off on this meeting out of laziness, and understanding that Posteastan has had a lot to do recently.

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Rupudska
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 20698
Founded: Sep 16, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Rupudska » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:27 pm

Kenmoria wrote:For clarification, my most recent post, about the response to Caracasus, was co-written with Kjalåra, I haven’t just taken control of the Kjalåran commander.


Was about to say. Depending on how long the storm is to last, and how long it takes Caracasus and the Boani to stand down (or not) I may have my sub try and torpedo one or several of the IDS ships anyway. As long as it doesn't go too fast, the storm should mask its sound from the sonobuoy.
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Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
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Great Nortend
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Posts: 1562
Founded: Jul 08, 2017
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Postby Great Nortend » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:40 pm

The lies being spread truly are scandalous. Perhaps we ought to arrange a little tour of Leozina for their distinguished Excellencies...
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Diplomacy, Consulates &c. : https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865

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Rupudska
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Founded: Sep 16, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Rupudska » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:42 pm

Karlsland WOULD support the Royalists if they could be more easily controlled could maybe chill for a few minutes and not link up with fascists.
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THE Strike Witches NationState | Retired King of P2TM
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On Karlsland Witch Doctrine:
Hladgos wrote:Scantly clad women, more like tanks
seem to be blowing up everyones banks
with airstrikes from girls with wings to their knees
which show a bit more than just their panties

Questers wrote:
Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
Presumably they use advanced technology like STRIKE WITCHES

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Great Nortend
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Founded: Jul 08, 2017
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Postby Great Nortend » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:53 pm

I'm not fascist!
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Diplomacy, Consulates &c. : https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=417865

This nation is an exaggerated representation of my personal views in most areas.

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Lux Pulchrae
Minister
 
Posts: 2221
Founded: May 15, 2017
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Postby Lux Pulchrae » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:01 pm

I am!

Sucks the stigma the word 'fascist' still carries all because of some crazy German in WW2. Just how people like to separate socialism from communism(stalinism) one can separate Fascism from nazism(they are not the same. It's not hard to get it through your head.)

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:18 pm

Kenmoria wrote:For clarification, my most recent post, about the response to Caracasus, was co-written with Kjalåra, I haven’t just taken control of the Kjalåran commander.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You could always join Kenmoria who supports the human traffickers with tank divisions (Syndicalists) because capitalism <.< >.>

It would certainly be interesting to see how the different brands of Capitalism interact, whether on the same side or in opposition.

Kenmoria would you terribly mind to have your airport in Roztechko be on the receiving end of some two dozen Tomahawks? <.<
Edit: The post is posted but is non-canon until you tell me what you think of it. :3
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