Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God [OOC]

[Lux Pulchrae]

Lotharia is focused on achieving a compromise between the Royalists and Democrats, to secure Allanean support.

Lotharia views achieving these goals while keeping it's strong relationship with Allanea a core priority.

Also why aren't your quotes working?

You gotta start them first.

Plus Allanea ain't focused on much besides some slaver controversy. Are you caught up on the thread so far?

[Lux Pulchrae]

Posteastan, who was that Tavitan guy? I want to contact him, which side is he on?

Stateists

[Lux Pulchrae]

Start the quote code. The one where you asked why the quotes weren't working, you only had the end [/quote] but didn't have [quote]

You can jump in but it's best to read, or have someone give a recap. But I don't want to at this moment

[Cat-Herders United]

Incidentally, what are the royalist designs on Kolvce?

If the royalists get close to winning, would they accept a compromise that Kolvce would be an independent constitutional monarchy that has a king from the same dynasty as Posteastan proper, as long as it is not the same individual on both thrones?

For that matter, do the Kolvceans insist on a republican form of government at all costs?

[Lux Pulchrae]

Up for debate but that's a question for Post. Oh and just to be clear, the blockade on the Telin River or the roads towards Kolvce does and won't stop humanitarian aid, but due to increased activity of socialists in Kolvce and raiders in the north, any shipment found with weapons or anything other than food, medicine, etc will be seized.

[Great Nortend]

I'm going to assume Sir Donald is magically with Sir Alexander so I can butt in a bit.

[Lux Pulchrae]

Is it safe to say I just pulled up to the driveway at Sir Alexander's home, just so we're all there. I did send a notice a day in advance, yesterday. Got a good PR scheme.

[Danlina]

Up for debate but that's a question for Post. Oh and just to be clear, the blockade on the Telin River or the roads towards Kolvce does and won't stop humanitarian aid, but due to increased activity of socialists in Kolvce and raiders in the north, any shipment found with weapons or anything other than food, medicine, etc will be seized.

Does this include weaponry designated for protecting the shipments? Or only weaponry that is being shipped to Kolvce?

[Lux Pulchrae]

I suppose weapons shipped to Kolvce for the purposes of arming them would be seized, but if they're the protection of essential aid, it'll cross. Just make sure those guns are still in your hands on the way back.

[Great Oehiton]

That Telegram was to all heads of government to the supporters of the Royalists, I didn't know who else was involved so blanketed it.

Is it to all goverments to ask them to support the royalists or all those who are and were in support of the royalists at one time?

[Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics]

This is going too fast, I'm not sure if I can keep up with this RP and keep up with studying at the same time.

I think its too late for a rewrite of my jet strike post to even be relevant in the context of the current situation.

[Great Nortend]

That Telegram was to all heads of government to the supporters of the Royalists, I didn't know who else was involved so blanketed it.

I'm not too happy at its commanding nature, and wonder if it could have been rephrased to be more diplomatic. “I have the honour to humbly request the pleasure of your attendance at a summit relating to this matter which I intend, if Your Majesties deign to accept, to be held in my city of Berlin.”

[Shwe Tu Colony]

Allanea & Posteasten, do we need to/would you guys like to handle the entrance of Sousundowa & their supplies in my initial post in writing, or should we assume it'll be taken care of off-screen, so I don't have to make another post when I have Sousundowa set up (not that I'll be too opposed, anyway, but my main qualm is if the conversation becomes what should be one-line banter)?

[Great Nortend]

I'm not too happy at its commanding nature, and wonder if it could have been rephrased to be more diplomatic. “I have the honour to humbly request the pleasure of your attendance at a summit relating to this matter which I intend, if Your Majesties deign to accept, to be held in my city of Berlin.”

Lotharia's Emperor is famously known as a "to the point" straight shooter who is polite but doesn't sugar coat things in frivolous formalities, especially when calling for meetings.

He states an objective, he invites people and tells them to come if they want to, and then that's that.


However, conversely he's also known as an extremely friendly and generous host who lavishes people with words of honor at such events, as well as sometimes gifts, usually if it is a great honor or major act.

He's known to be very dedicated and defend his friends-even foreign ones-verbally if needed, and emphasizes the need for civility and civil as well as fair debate and discussion.


This isn't out of character, as this personality served him well in solving the Lotharian Gridlock Era of 1986-1989, the greatest period of political gridlock in more than 50 years. Most of those who led the crisis on both sides were forced to step down, and in 1990, a wave of new elected officials came to power in Congress, mostly replacing the officials who had been majorly involved. Most the others who survived the election had apologized and worked to prevent future gridlock.

It was this era, when he was 26-29(Having actually newly ascended the throne), that saw his political personality develop, previously being mostly involved in military training and being physically fit, focusing on physical exercise. He had an impromptu education in this period, and he was able to successfully medicate and solve the crisis with these tactics.


So don't worry, your governments shouldn't be surprised or offended, as this personality trait is quite famous.

Hmm, I suppose that would be a mitigating factor.

Would it be too much if King Alexander (of Great Nortend) would arrive at this impromptu meeting, Lux Pulchrae, Rivienland, Posteastan? I think probably so... however, it would be interesting to get to know Sir Alexander's heir. I think it wouldn't be out of the question for Sir Alexander to hold a banneretcy (essentially a baronetcy) entitling his son and presumably, his heir apparent, to the honorific title of Esquire de Bardi. Not sure what his son's name would be, but Albert might be nice. Albert, Esquire de Bardi, son and heir apparent to Sir Alexander Bardi, 1st Banneret de Bardi.

[Allanea]

Okay, I am a bit behind on things.

I've spoken to Kenmoria and Posteastan so.

To be clear, Eternal Lotharia:

Allanea has no designs to back any monarchist or any other faction in Posteastan, and its interest is providing humanitarian aid and destroying the Syndicate (as well as, secondarily, other human trafficking groups).

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

I'm not too happy at its commanding nature, and wonder if it could have been rephrased to be more diplomatic. “I have the honour to humbly request the pleasure of your attendance at a summit relating to this matter which I intend, if Your Majesties deign to accept, to be held in my city of Berlin.”

Lotharia's Emperor is famously known as a "to the point" straight shooter who is polite but doesn't sugar coat things in frivolous formalities, especially when calling for meetings.

He states an objective, he invites people and tells them to come if they want to, and then that's that.


However, conversely he's also known as an extremely friendly and generous host who lavishes people with words of honor at such events, as well as sometimes gifts, usually if it is a great honor or major act.

He's known to be very dedicated and defend his friends-even foreign ones-verbally if needed, and emphasizes the need for civility and civil as well as fair debate and discussion.


This isn't out of character, as this personality served him well in solving the Lotharian Gridlock Era of 1986-1989, the greatest period of political gridlock in more than 50 years. Most of those who led the crisis on both sides were forced to step down, and in 1990, a wave of new elected officials came to power in Congress, mostly replacing the officials who had been majorly involved. Most the others who survived the election had apologized and worked to prevent future gridlock.

It was this era, when he was 26-29(Having actually newly ascended the throne), that saw his political personality develop, previously being mostly involved in military training and being physically fit, focusing on physical exercise. He had an impromptu education in this period, and he was able to successfully medicate and solve the crisis with these tactics.


So don't worry, your governments shouldn't be surprised or offended, as this personality trait is quite famous.

People in the Neo-British Empire are known for being so stiff and humourless that you could destroy their plumbing as a joke and all you'd get is a hammer and nail in your forehead (yes, they'll leave the hammer in), along with having a pipe that comes in your mouth and out your anus. They're also so cold hearted that if you kiss your (Neo-)British lover without warning, all you'd get is a stare.

The Emperor is no exception. In fact, he is the rule taken to the extreme. To many, he'll often seem apathetic unless actually involved in it, along with keeping everything extremely serious and talking as though he's at a job interview with an old man in a suit. His term as President included abolishing trade unions, having his political opponents arrested and destroying the semblance of democracy that McGrovester, the 'Anarchist-but-Not-Really' President or the 'Independent Republican' President, depending on who you ask, kept as window dressing. As Emperor, his reign was no different, this time funding African warlords in our universe known as Neo-Liberia, along with the attempted murder of McGrovester and, just to top it all off, dip republicans in cement.

[Allanea]

Okay I seem to have failed to complete my post properly.

I apologize, I'm a bit ill.

Now...

As I understand it OOC, Kenmoria's slavery operation does exist, but it's somewhat subtle - in that only a small proportion of the 'employees' are slaves in any recognizable fashion.

This does mean Allanea's military operation is not really of much use to solve this problem, but it also probably does mean that CE might be able to be persuaded to abandon the use of slave labor because it likely represents only a small proportion of its labor costs.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Okay I seem to have failed to complete my post properly.

I apologize, I'm a bit ill.

Now...

As I understand it OOC, Kenmoria's slavery operation does exist, but it's somewhat subtle - in that only a small proportion of the 'employees' are slaves in any recognizable fashion.

This does mean Allanea's military operation is not really of much use to solve this problem, but it also probably does mean that CE might be able to be persuaded to abandon the use of slave labor because it likely represents only a small proportion of its labor costs.

Smh slavery.

I prefer to keep my workers dependent on their employers, to the brink of starvation, with many being homeless. The good thing about wage slaver- I mean, employment is that you don't have to house, feed or help your employees in anyway except for paper which is totally reliant on faith rather than being connected to any resource.
*Sniffs money*
Oh boy do I love the smell of capitalism. Slavery isn't worth it. But dependence is.

[Lux Pulchrae]

Sooo...Kjalaara, are we gonna clash? Cause if I have my men headed north and your people are the ones raiding the towns near the Milila, there could be problems.

Would it be too much if King Alexander (of Great Nortend) would arrive at this impromptu meeting, Lux Pulchrae, Rivienland, Posteastan? I think probably so... however, it would be interesting to get to know Sir Alexander's heir. I think it wouldn't be out of the question for Sir Alexander to hold a banneretcy (essentially a baronetcy) entitling his son and presumably, his heir apparent, to the honorific title of Esquire de Bardi. Not sure what his son's name would be, but Albert might be nice. Albert, Esquire de Bardi, son and heir apparent to Sir Alexander Bardi, 1st Banneret de Bardi.

I don't think so, the more monarchs the merrier. To paraphrase Huey Long: Ever Man(in the room) A King!

Also, how long has Sir Alexander been living in Great Nortend?

[Kenmoria]

Okay I seem to have failed to complete my post properly.

I apologize, I'm a bit ill.

Now...

As I understand it OOC, Kenmoria's slavery operation does exist, but it's somewhat subtle - in that only a small proportion of the 'employees' are slaves in any recognizable fashion.

This does mean Allanea's military operation is not really of much use to solve this problem, but it also probably does mean that CE might be able to be persuaded to abandon the use of slave labor because it likely represents only a small proportion of its labor costs.

That is correct; CE aren’t willing to completely enslave their entire workforce due to publicity and the massive expense required. However, some slavery is still used to make up the numbers and fill in the gaps. The corporation would be open to possible abandoning the practice, but will likely keep it due to it working and forming a useful bargaining chip.

[Posteastan]

Incidentally, what are the royalist designs on Kolvce?

If the royalists get close to winning, would they accept a compromise that Kolvce would be an independent constitutional monarchy that has a king from the same dynasty as Posteastan proper, as long as it is not the same individual on both thrones?

For that matter, do the Kolvceans insist on a republican form of government at all costs?

The Royalists are mostly puppets of Lux and Great Nortend at the moment so they normally do what their backers suppose. They view Kolvce and the Renegades as traitors.
Kolvce is totally republican and will never accept any form of despotically ruler. They don't necessarily want total independence. If they get full autonomy they are willing to nominally remain part of a Kingdom of Posteastan but that is up for debate IC I think.

I would imagine there would be potential controversy around whether Posteastan would become a vassal state under Great Nortend or possibly Lux Pulchrae should the monarchy be restored. After all, if the claimant and his heirs are all subjects of His Erbonian Majesty...

Indeed. He is also extremely reclusive and not much is known about him. The few that do know him know that his is almost 500% loyal to HIS king. And there is no doubt about it. To him it would be an honor to turn Posteastan into a carbon copy of Great Nortend and to remain a subject of his home land.

What if one of the 'almoners' (secretly army officers) is actually an heir to the Posteastan throne? Hmm... a rumour perhaps then.

would work fine. He has sons and grand sons but the Bardis tend to serve in the navy.

I have a question that I feel is important: how wide is the river? I want to know exactly how wide the ships that I intend on passing through the river can be.

Danube wide

Posteastan, who was that Tavitan guy? I want to contact him, which side is he on?

Stateists, now People's Chamber.

This is going too fast, I'm not sure if I can keep up with this RP and keep up with studying at the same time.

I think its too late for a rewrite of my jet strike post to even be relevant in the context of the current situation.

Jet strikes are always relevant. You might want to TG me to discuss the details.

Allanea & Posteasten, do we need to/would you guys like to handle the entrance of Sousundowa & their supplies in my initial post in writing, or should we assume it'll be taken care of off-screen, so I don't have to make another post when I have Sousundowa set up (not that I'll be too opposed, anyway, but my main qualm is if the conversation becomes what should be one-line banter)?

You can just set up your shop(s) and start posting.

Would it be too much if King Alexander (of Great Nortend) would arrive at this impromptu meeting, Lux Pulchrae, Rivienland, Posteastan? I think probably so... however, it would be interesting to get to know Sir Alexander's heir. I think it wouldn't be out of the question for Sir Alexander to hold a banneretcy (essentially a baronetcy) entitling his son and presumably, his heir apparent, to the honorific title of Esquire de Bardi. Not sure what his son's name would be, but Albert might be nice. Albert, Esquire de Bardi, son and heir apparent to Sir Alexander Bardi, 1st Banneret de Bardi.

I think it might be useful as the King of Lux is there and it is almost a question of honor to personally great a fellow (proper) king when he comes to visit. I mean normally it would be the other way round (the visiting one must pay respect to the host?) but for the sake of the RP this was skipped.

I love the idea. Albert is great. I try to produce a family tree. I don't have any objections if you want to RP Albert(u). I will provide some background and that's it. But I can also RP him, that's not a problem.

Sooo...Kjalaara, are we gonna clash? Cause if I have my men headed north and your people are the ones raiding the towns near the Milila, there could be problems.

Would it be too much if King Alexander (of Great Nortend) would arrive at this impromptu meeting, Lux Pulchrae, Rivienland, Posteastan? I think probably so... however, it would be interesting to get to know Sir Alexander's heir. I think it wouldn't be out of the question for Sir Alexander to hold a banneretcy (essentially a baronetcy) entitling his son and presumably, his heir apparent, to the honorific title of Esquire de Bardi. Not sure what his son's name would be, but Albert might be nice. Albert, Esquire de Bardi, son and heir apparent to Sir Alexander Bardi, 1st Banneret de Bardi.

I don't think so, the more monarchs the merrier. To paraphrase Huey Long: Ever Man(in the room) A King!

Also, how long has Sir Alexander been living in Great Nortend?

All his life. He was born there and his parents have been naturalized.

[Posteastan]

Can we have an official side list?

First page and than there are some good summaries in this thread (the OOC one)

[Lux Pulchrae]

All his life. He was born there and his parents have been naturalized.

This gets even better because now it REALLY plays out like the Spanish Civil War and I HIGHLY suggest you look at it and its outcomes, it is crazy.


Or just harken back to this

The Spanish Civil War was essentially, from my understanding, utter chaos on the beginning. The republic fell(kinda like Post) everyone took a side and many different factions were(kinda like Post). You had anarchists, Republicans, communists on one side(crazy right?) and on another you had nationalists, monarchists, fascists on another(hmmm). These two sides were at first loosely connected, then it practically became left vs right. Franco joins all the right forces under him, wins, and rules Spain for almost forty years. As a monarchist he wanted a king back on the throne. He basically was a king but I guess calling himself one would anger many in his party. He assured restoration of the monarchy once he thought the heir apparent was ready.

He named Juan Carlos his successor and soon in. 1975 Franco dies, Juan Carlos is Juan Carlos I and he completely screws it over and undoes the Franco regime, the one that gave him power in the first place. Ironically, the reason he was chosen is because Franco thought his father, Juan, was too liberal, so Franco skips Juan and named Juan Carlos the future heir(BIG WINK WINK NUDGE AND THINKING EMOJI).

On an additional note, Juan Carlos was born outside of his patria, an exile, he was born in Rome. So this really sparks my Franco-era Spain fantasies.

Maybe my king can persuade whoever the next king is to see things differently. But we can play this all out in the IC

[Great Nortend]

I'll play the heir then. Albert Bardi, Esquire de Bardi. Aged 43 I suppose. Also, I notice that Sir Alexander has a son named Charles Bardi. I shall assume he is a younger son, as I don't really want to get into the entire White Cross Lines stuff.

I will have him call upon his father, if that is all right, and perhaps Sir Alexander will introduce him. Lux Pulchrae, Posteastan, you two can then do stuff as you please with him. I will not send Alexander II, since I think I've got enough pokers in the fire already.

[Lux Pulchrae]

43? Damn, how old is Sir Alexander?