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Postby Lux Pulchrae » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:17 am

Ok

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Postby Akatia » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:01 am

I still have to role with government officials and the destruction of the city.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:40 am

Where can I land my ships? Do the interventions forces actually own any ports, or do they just have soldiers there?
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Postby North German Realm » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:04 pm

So uh, if there's anything regarding something I hold (including the supposed battle in Copenhagen), please wait until I can respond. I will go to sleep in like, half an hour and wake up roughly seven hours later.
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Postby Hypron » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:28 pm

I might have King James VII blockade Copenhagen, so no neutral ships come into the crossfire.

Here is the carrier

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Thanks to North German Realm for picture of USS Forrestal
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Postby North German Realm » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:24 pm

1- Can I add in Navy in my units too? Since 2 of my divisions are now obselete after the 10k personnel cap, that is.

2- I think TBP needs to update the frontpage. There's probably going to be a battle in Copenhagen soon. Unless Hypron Surrenders, I guess.

3- @Revarna Who's side are you on in Copenhagen? (Here: Daneway City)
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Postby Revarna » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:31 pm

North German Realm wrote:1- Can I add in Navy in my units too? Since 2 of my divisions are now obselete after the 10k personnel cap, that is.

2- I think TBP needs to update the frontpage. There's probably going to be a battle in Copenhagen soon. Unless Hypron Surrenders, I guess.

3- @Revarna Who's side are you on in Copenhagen? (Here: Daneway City)



I'm on my own side, also Daneway city is in Black Party country, I want to make sure no-one takes Copenhagen and subsequently Denmark.
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Postby North German Realm » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:33 pm

Revarna wrote:
North German Realm wrote:1- Can I add in Navy in my units too? Since 2 of my divisions are now obselete after the 10k personnel cap, that is.

2- I think TBP needs to update the frontpage. There's probably going to be a battle in Copenhagen soon. Unless Hypron Surrenders, I guess.

3- @Revarna Who's side are you on in Copenhagen? (Here: Daneway City)



I'm on my own side, also Daneway city is in Black Party country, I want to make sure no-one takes Copenhagen and subsequently Denmark.

When you say "No one", do you mean you want it to remain under TBP authority (which is my goal... kinda)?
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Postby Revarna » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:37 pm

North German Realm wrote:
Revarna wrote:

I'm on my own side, also Daneway city is in Black Party country, I want to make sure no-one takes Copenhagen and subsequently Denmark.

When you say "No one", do you mean you want it to remain under TBP authority (which is my goal... kinda)?



No-one but myself... *evil laugh*

But TBP would be preferable to Hypron
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Postby Revarna » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:39 am

Task Force Timber Wolf Naval Group:
General: Connor Nux Yu
Captain: Kim Y.J
Type: Insurgent

Composition:
•1 Frigate
•3 Destroyers
•2 Cruisers
•2 Patrol ships
•2,750 Deployable troops

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Postby Hypron » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:46 am

Revarna wrote:Task Force Timber Wolf Naval Group:
General: Connor Nux Yu
Captain: Kim Y.J
Type: Insurgent

Composition:
•1 Frigate
•3 Destroyers
•2 Cruisers
•2 Patrol ships
•2,750 Deployable troops



That is way ahead of this era. I at least only did a 10 year time skip, while this is at least 40 years.

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Postby North German Realm » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:49 am

Hypron wrote:That is way ahead of this era. I at least only did a 10 year time skip, while this is at least 40 years.
That ships in question are Ticonderoga class crusiers. They were first built in 1980. It's roughly better than your timeskip because you added Aircraft Carriers, which few countries had at that point.
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Postby The Chuck » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:53 am

The ships in the image sure. Though there are plenty of ships of the correct era to choose from. On another note. Is it realistic for someone to intervene in a "small" conflict with a whole carrier task force?
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Postby Ukraniumstan » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:01 am

Is there a cap on how many ships we can send? An is it separate from the land force count? Because I might just deploy a couple of submarines if that is the case.

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Postby The Chuck » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:26 am

Until TBP can comment I'd say the 10k manpower cap also includes naval ships.
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Postby Hypron » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:30 am

The Chuck wrote:The ships in the image sure. Though there are plenty of ships of the correct era to choose from. On another note. Is it realistic for someone to intervene in a "small" conflict with a whole carrier task force?



America, that is my only answer.

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Postby The Chuck » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:31 am

Hypron wrote:
The Chuck wrote:The ships in the image sure. Though there are plenty of ships of the correct era to choose from. On another note. Is it realistic for someone to intervene in a "small" conflict with a whole carrier task force?



America, that is my only answer.


Exactly... America. I'll wait for Black's decision but I'm almost at the point of telling you guys no aircraft carriers since aerial strikes are forbidden.

Also, if you are trying to bring a CV into the mix, I'm going off personnel required and a CV fully loaded needs 5828 personnel so that's over half your allowed troops on one ship. (USS Enterprise Class CV)
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Postby Hypron » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:34 am

The Chuck wrote:
Hypron wrote:

America, that is my only answer.


Exactly... America. I'll wait for Black's decision but I'm almost at the point of telling you guys no aircraft carriers since aerial strikes are forbidden.

Also, if you are trying to bring a CV into the mix, I'm going off personnel required and a CV fully loaded needs 5828 personnel so that's over half your allowed troops on one ship. (USS Enterprise Class CV)


Not planning to use air support, more as a show of force.

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Postby North German Realm » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:37 am

Hypron wrote:
The Chuck wrote:
Exactly... America. I'll wait for Black's decision but I'm almost at the point of telling you guys no aircraft carriers since aerial strikes are forbidden.

Also, if you are trying to bring a CV into the mix, I'm going off personnel required and a CV fully loaded needs 5828 personnel so that's over half your allowed troops on one ship. (USS Enterprise Class CV)


Not planning to use air support, more as a show of force.

Sure, but it still needs 5,828 men to function, which means you have roughly 4,172 men on land (that is to say, if we ignore your other ships. If we count in all of those as well, you're well beyond your 10,000 limit))
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Postby Ukraniumstan » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:32 am

Alright, I am going spend my last 200 manpower on 4 Whiskey class medium-multirole attack submarines. These guys were built in the 50's, so it should be good for this RP

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Postby Hypron » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:35 am

Ukraniumstan wrote:Alright, I am going spend my last 200 manpower on 4 Whiskey class medium-multirole attack submarines. These guys were built in the 50's, so it should be good for this RP



Nice looking attack boats. But what can they be armed with?

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Postby Ukraniumstan » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:42 am

Hypron wrote:
Ukraniumstan wrote:Alright, I am going spend my last 200 manpower on 4 Whiskey class medium-multirole attack submarines. These guys were built in the 50's, so it should be good for this RP



Nice looking attack boats. But what can they be armed with?

12 × torpedoes
22 × mines
1 × single-mounted 25 mm (1.0 in) AA gun
2 × single-mounted 57 mm (2.2 in) AA gun

They do have limited ammunition, so they will have to refuel and re-arm. They also do not have enough for a prolonged engagement, so they can't engage a carrier battle group by themselves, for example. They are mostly for convoy strikes

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Postby Hypron » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:47 am

Hypron wrote:
The Chuck wrote:The ships in the image sure. Though there are plenty of ships of the correct era to choose from. On another note. Is it realistic for someone to intervene in a "small" conflict with a whole carrier task force?



America, that is my only answer.



And by this i mean that America had a 3 step plan for military intervention: 1st, cement resistance into a nation to overthrow the leaders. If that failed, Step 2 is to start a minor military intervention, like using shows of force, Step 3 is all out war. I am on step 2, and wont get to step 3.

This was the Cold War foreign policy.

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Postby Hypron » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:47 am

Ukraniumstan wrote:
Hypron wrote:
Nice looking attack boats. But what can they be armed with?

12 × torpedoes
22 × mines
1 × single-mounted 25 mm (1.0 in) AA gun
2 × single-mounted 57 mm (2.2 in) AA gun

They do have limited ammunition, so they will have to refuel and re-arm. They also do not have enough for a prolonged engagement, so they can't engage a carrier battle group by themselves, for example. They are mostly for convoy strikes



Excellent reinforcement interceptors.

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Postby Hypron » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:54 am

The Chuck wrote:
Hypron wrote:

America, that is my only answer.


Exactly... America. I'll wait for Black's decision but I'm almost at the point of telling you guys no aircraft carriers since aerial strikes are forbidden.

Also, if you are trying to bring a CV into the mix, I'm going off personnel required and a CV fully loaded needs 5828 personnel so that's over half your allowed troops on one ship. (USS Enterprise Class CV)



After i changed it to the Forrestal class non-nuclear aircraft carrier, and cutting down the escort count, the total crew is 6,637, leaving me with 3363 deployable manpower from Hypron.

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