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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:31 pm
by Polish Prussian Commonwealth
New Visayan Islands wrote:
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:And just like that, I stopped taking you seriously.

And that is why I'm asking Nifon for pointers.


Talking about the F-35s but okay

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:44 pm
by Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Retroactively changing my post-now it's just an attack sub instead of 4 torpedo boats.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:45 pm
by New Aeyariss
I do, and seeing as I could use some improvement in my RPs, I appreciate the help.

Which reminds me: if things do go pear-shaped--IC we maintain a pipeline for the peaceful emigration of LGBT to the Confederation--who would be in the best position to request that corpsmen be sent out to assist in the evacuation? I'd assume the Ambassador, but I'd rather be sure.


To be frank, US non-combatant evacuation missions do predict that, usually, civilian fleet will be tasked with it. You can simply bring a couple of state department's 747s to carry out the deed.

Mind you, I do not believe that this situation does even justify use of armed forces for an evacuation. New Edom does not suffer from extreme breakdown of law and order, and while the government is cracking down on a protest, the chaos is limited to certain sections of the capital. There are no long term dangers to stability of the Edomite state, neither does the chaos likely to last for long...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:54 pm
by New Aeyariss
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=401366&hilit=guide

Re posting my old foreign policy guide for you all.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:27 pm
by Mediama
New Aeyariss wrote:
I do, and seeing as I could use some improvement in my RPs, I appreciate the help.

Which reminds me: if things do go pear-shaped--IC we maintain a pipeline for the peaceful emigration of LGBT to the Confederation--who would be in the best position to request that corpsmen be sent out to assist in the evacuation? I'd assume the Ambassador, but I'd rather be sure.


To be frank, US non-combatant evacuation missions do predict that, usually, civilian fleet will be tasked with it. You can simply bring a couple of state department's 747s to carry out the deed.

Mind you, I do not believe that this situation does even justify use of armed forces for an evacuation. New Edom does not suffer from extreme breakdown of law and order, and while the government is cracking down on a protest, the chaos is limited to certain sections of the capital. There are no long term dangers to stability of the Edomite state, neither does the chaos likely to last for long...


I was already planning that. The task force was in the event that total order breaks down and airports are inaccessible. If they are and people are allowed to leave, then I was planning to have a private airline contracted to provide pickup for embassy staff and refugees.

In fact the evacuation of the US embassy in Vietnam started out as being a use of private airlines and Air Force aircraft stationed at Bin Hoa, as well as a naval evacuation from private ships in Saigon. But since the fall happened so quickly, and the US ambassador was incompetent as heck, Bin Hoa fell before the could effectively evacuate using private airlines and aircraft, so the US embassy staff had to go with plan C, get the USS midway to conduct the evacuation by helicopter.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:40 pm
by Thermodolia
viewtopic.php?p=35219175#p35219175

Terror reigns in Fineberg. This might be the spark that ignites a fire

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:47 pm
by Ru-
SIGH I was having plenty of fun with just the smoke thank you very much. If things get too crazy I don't know if I can keep up with it all..

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:49 pm
by The Chuck
Ru- wrote:SIGH I was having plenty of fun with just the smoke thank you very much. If things get too crazy I don't know if I can keep up with it all..


^ Agreed.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:56 pm
by Guadalupador
Oh for real. That’s what’s happening now.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:56 pm
by Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Thermodolia wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=35219175#p35219175

Terror reigns in Fineberg. This might be the spark that ignites a fire

Image

Okay, boys, where we dropping?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:00 pm
by Almurta
Almurta's military is a mixture of old and new, which each branch varying in how obsessed they are with new and shiny things. At the furthest extreme we have the Incorporated States Air Force, which shivers at the very idea of being made to use something not propelled by at least a basic jet turbine. Then we have the Marine Corps at the other end, whose history of being given Army and Navy hand-me-downs has lent itself to a culture of if it ain't broke, don't fix it in a branch of service that is almost always the last to stop using a particular item of equipment, so long as it works.

Post is imminent, just reading first.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:14 pm
by Thermodolia
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=35219175#p35219175

Terror reigns in Fineberg. This might be the spark that ignites a fire

Image

Okay, boys, where we dropping?


Guadalupador wrote:Oh for real. That’s what’s happening now.


Ru- wrote:SIGH I was having plenty of fun with just the smoke thank you very much. If things get too crazy I don't know if I can keep up with it all..


The Chuck wrote:
Ru- wrote:SIGH I was having plenty of fun with just the smoke thank you very much. If things get too crazy I don't know if I can keep up with it all..


^ Agreed.

Just so good ole terrorism. It’s a reaction to the harsh crackdown, New Edom green lit it. You can still use diplomacy and actually a diplomatic angle would be asking New Edom to refrain from further crackdowns.

My little bit about sparks was a play on somthing New Aeyariss had written

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:25 pm
by Ru-
ugh whatever. i guess i'll wait and see how people react to it before i throw my hands in the air and give up. just really annoyed at the moment

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:27 pm
by Thermodolia
Ru- wrote:whatever, i guess i'll wait and see how people react to it before i throw my hands in the air and give up. just frusterated atm.

I don’t know why any foreign nation, read not New Edom, would go to war over a terror attack. It seems a bit silly

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:35 pm
by Polish Prussian Commonwealth
Thermodolia wrote:
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:Image

Okay, boys, where we dropping?


Guadalupador wrote:Oh for real. That’s what’s happening now.


Ru- wrote:SIGH I was having plenty of fun with just the smoke thank you very much. If things get too crazy I don't know if I can keep up with it all..


The Chuck wrote:
^ Agreed.

Just so good ole terrorism. It’s a reaction to the harsh crackdown, New Edom green lit it. You can still use diplomacy and actually a diplomatic angle would be asking New Edom to refrain from further crackdowns.

My little bit about sparks was a play on somthing New Aeyariss had written

Time to assist in s u p p r e s s i o n

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:40 pm
by The Chuck
I'm at a standstill until New Edom and I can sort out the "invasion" of his sovereign soil by my embassy guards. I've been reading over what-ifs and embassy laws/guidelines so it will be interesting to see how this little section gets resolved.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:58 pm
by McNernia
New Aeyariss wrote:
Common Territories wrote:Glad to see a lot of "evacuation" fleets outfitted with guided missile destroyers and fighter jets, complimented with entire brigade/regiment combat groups. Suppose Imperion mite have to consider dispatching a combined "vacation" fleet to visit its member New Edom. Or maybe offer a fighter wing or two a vacation instead. Decision decision 8)


Shh. We all know that on NS, evacuation means "occupation, "peacekeeping" means "invasion" and "liberation" means "colonization". I may not be able to post till Friday, but expect a massive response of the Empire of Greater Nifon the moment Nifonese sensors pick those up.


SACTO INVICTUS MY BRETHERN!

Also, Ill probably be ready to intercept those fleets. A wolf pack group....going to be nice and messy...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:01 pm
by Kylarnatia
Maybe it would be good to establish a "rules of engagement" for the roleplay, so people know what's allowed?

Also, a timeline would be helpful, or at least an indication of how much time is passing.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:21 pm
by Japan and Pacific States
Kylarnatia wrote:Maybe it would be good to establish a "rules of engagement" for the roleplay, so people know what's allowed?

Also, a timeline would be helpful, or at least an indication of how much time is passing.


Rules of Engagement... To clarify we're not on about implementing the geneva conventions or any of that in rp.. R-right?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:26 pm
by Kylarnatia
Japan and Pacific States wrote:
Kylarnatia wrote:Maybe it would be good to establish a "rules of engagement" for the roleplay, so people know what's allowed?

Also, a timeline would be helpful, or at least an indication of how much time is passing.


Rules of Engagement... To clarify we're not on about implementing the geneva conventions or any of that in rp.. R-right?


Correct - I mean in terms of what New Edom wants out of this roleplay. Just so that this doesn't suddenly devolve into an all-out war scenario and those that want to focus on more diplomacy and/or character-based roleplay get left in the lerch.

A timeline would also just help us get a sense of how much time has passed between posts etc. so we know what is happening when.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:54 pm
by Japan and Pacific States
Kylarnatia wrote:
Japan and Pacific States wrote:
Rules of Engagement... To clarify we're not on about implementing the geneva conventions or any of that in rp.. R-right?


Correct - I mean in terms of what New Edom wants out of this roleplay. Just so that this doesn't suddenly devolve into an all-out war scenario and those that want to focus on more diplomacy and/or character-based roleplay get left in the lerch.

A timeline would also just help us get a sense of how much time has passed between posts etc. so we know what is happening when.


Oh no I mean whenever the war does happen are war crimes no go, or no? I really hope that isn't the case

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:59 pm
by Kylarnatia
Japan and Pacific States wrote:
Kylarnatia wrote:
Correct - I mean in terms of what New Edom wants out of this roleplay. Just so that this doesn't suddenly devolve into an all-out war scenario and those that want to focus on more diplomacy and/or character-based roleplay get left in the lerch.

A timeline would also just help us get a sense of how much time has passed between posts etc. so we know what is happening when.


Oh no I mean whenever the war does happen are war crimes no go, or no? I really hope that isn't the case


Whether war crimes are carried out or not is up to the nation in question. However, bare in mind that the site has a PG-13 rule, and that applies to roleplay as well.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:05 pm
by Japan and Pacific States
Kylarnatia wrote:
Japan and Pacific States wrote:
Oh no I mean whenever the war does happen are war crimes no go, or no? I really hope that isn't the case


Whether war crimes are carried out or not is up to the nation in question. However, bare in mind that the site has a PG-13 rule, and that applies to roleplay as well.


Aye I'm aware.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:23 pm
by New Edom
Hey everyone. Generally everybody is playing by the rules which is fine. I'm feeling very under the weather today so a little bit of a breather is in order till tomorrow.

The day is gonna end with my next post, and then we will be dealing with the aftermath.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:35 am
by New Aeyariss
Okay. I would like to point out that a major terror attack won't really alter a lot in terms of military affairs, except giving the Nifonese more ammunition for the planned information warfare campaign.

Dealing with a terror attack is a responsibility of Edomite state, and as such I hardly doubt that anything more will come out of it.

As the history had proven, terrorism had been a perfect tool of gaining attention. During the early cold war, most of Europe had no idea about Palestine; and had it not been PLO kidnapping planes, Palestine would have remained among such obscure cases like Nagorno Karabakh or South Ossetia.

Nations which oppose Edom's crackdown on LGBT can simply say that the attack was a retaliation for use of force on behalf of Edomite government, and portray the Homofront problem as something that Edomite government had itself created.