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Postby New Edom » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:17 pm

Vionna-Frankenlisch wrote:
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I will say this: I don't want things to be TOO CLEAR. I have deliberately made this story to have human messiness in it. if, for instance, Morenburg or someone wanted to push for war, it would have to be because their policies led to it, not because New Edom turned out to be deliberately sacrificing children to Moloch. What u like about this game is the possibility of depicting real life style political tensions with creative license.

I have to say that I think that's an absolutely excellent way of going about things. It's brilliant for developing people's Foreign Policy and, personally, has really allowed me to explore how the Vionna-Frankenlischian Government reacts to crises abroad. (hint: not very well apparently)



I'm glad, I hope everyone has fun exploring their nations in a similar way.
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Postby New Edom » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:18 pm

Cloney wrote:Thank god, I thought this was an anti lgbtq thing, I’m glad this is much more progressive.
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You mean you thought it was OOCLY anti gay? It's just an in character roleplaying thread. I like depucting political struggles.
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Postby McNernia » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:49 pm

New Edom wrote:
Vionna-Frankenlisch wrote:I have to say that I think that's an absolutely excellent way of going about things. It's brilliant for developing people's Foreign Policy and, personally, has really allowed me to explore how the Vionna-Frankenlischian Government reacts to crises abroad. (hint: not very well apparently)



I'm glad, I hope everyone has fun exploring their nations in a similar way.

Its good to show that Mcnernia is a deeply conflicted nation.
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Postby Ardoki » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:07 pm

Hey, sorry to be a bother. But do you have a name for an upmarket hotel in Fineburg? Just don't want to make up a name in your nation.

Also, fine if I can just RP past the airport stuff and have my guys just go straight to the hotel?

Thanks.
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Postby Greater Carloso » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:14 pm

This whole Carloso/Ardoki intelligence team thing is starting to look like something out of Father Ted. Three priests from Craggy Island and another three from Rugged Island, if anyone watched it lol
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Postby Ardoki » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:16 pm

Greater Carloso wrote:This whole Carloso/Ardoki intelligence team thing is starting to look like something out of Father Ted. Three priests from Craggy Island and another three from Rugged Island, if anyone watched it lol

I have not. Is it good?

I have seen a bit of Father Ted tbh, when I was little, but not much.
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Postby Greater Carloso » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:21 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Greater Carloso wrote:This whole Carloso/Ardoki intelligence team thing is starting to look like something out of Father Ted. Three priests from Craggy Island and another three from Rugged Island, if anyone watched it lol

I have not. Is it good?

I have seen a bit of Father Ted tbh, when I was little, but not much.

Yeah. It's mandatory viewing for anyone who wants to know more about Ireland even if it was made for Channel 4. My uncle was friends with the actor who played Father Jack (the old fella)
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Postby Ardoki » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:25 pm

Greater Carloso wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I have not. Is it good?

I have seen a bit of Father Ted tbh, when I was little, but not much.

Yeah. It's mandatory viewing for anyone who wants to know more about Ireland even if it was made for Channel 4. My uncle was friends with the actor who played Father Jack (the old fella)

I shall have to take a look again when I have time. Thanks!
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Postby New Edom » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:28 pm

Ardoki wrote:Hey, sorry to be a bother. But do you have a name for an upmarket hotel in Fineburg? Just don't want to make up a name in your nation.

Also, fine if I can just RP past the airport stuff and have my guys just go straight to the hotel?

Thanks.


https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=147775&hilit=Majestic+Hotels

The Majestic Hotel is probably the best in Fineberg. And sure, presume that there was strongly visible and rigorous security at the airport.,
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Postby Ardoki » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:42 pm

New Edom wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Hey, sorry to be a bother. But do you have a name for an upmarket hotel in Fineburg? Just don't want to make up a name in your nation.

Also, fine if I can just RP past the airport stuff and have my guys just go straight to the hotel?

Thanks.


https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=147775&hilit=Majestic+Hotels

The Majestic Hotel is probably the best in Fineberg. And sure, presume that there was strongly visible and rigorous security at the airport.,

Ah, okay great! Nothing illegal is being brought in anyway, so there shouldn't be a problem with security.
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Postby Common Territories » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:49 am

Finally managed to post, sorta stayed up late to do it too. Funny how I could get this written down faster than I could read the thread lol. But hopefully I didn't miss anything since I tried to avoid specifics, and went off the information I did know up to where I left off in the thread. And although I didn't intend to write so much after the communique section, the muscle in my brain couldn't stop itself.

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:24 am

By the way, some of my posts allude to Dominic's kids still trapped in school. Angela and Joanna; which academies are there "for foreign envoys, expatriates, military allies and corporate executives' children," by the way?
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:58 am

Fatimia, you do understand that a "peacekeeping mission" without New Edom's invitation or consent will be treated as an invasion, and responded accordingly, by New Edom & it's allies? Aside from the fact that if New Edom okays such a deployment, there is no need to deploy 70 000 troops?

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Postby Vionna-Frankenlisch » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:07 am

What the hell is this stuff going on with Fatiman Federation? I don't like to name and shame but I genuinely don't understand them. Are they trying to invade? Are they sending humanitarian aid to a modern, westernised, civilised nation? What's going on!?
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Postby Greater Carloso » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:11 am

New Aeyariss wrote:Fatimia, you do understand that a "peacekeeping mission" without New Edom's invitation or consent will be treated as an invasion, and responded accordingly, by New Edom & it's allies? Aside from the fact that if New Edom okays such a deployment, there is no need to deploy 70 000 troops?

If you want some military advice - hit me on PMs.

I second this. Homofront in New Edom would only have a few thousand members at most, but more likely only a couple of hundred considering the nature of their warfare.

If I remember correctly, Spartan Legion had around 200 members when Homofront was first announced in 2016.
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Postby The Shrailleeni Empire » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:30 am

Greater Carloso wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:Fatimia, you do understand that a "peacekeeping mission" without New Edom's invitation or consent will be treated as an invasion, and responded accordingly, by New Edom & it's allies? Aside from the fact that if New Edom okays such a deployment, there is no need to deploy 70 000 troops?

If you want some military advice - hit me on PMs.

I second this. Homofront in New Edom would only have a few thousand members at most, but more likely only a couple of hundred considering the nature of their warfare.

If I remember correctly, Spartan Legion had around 200 members when Homofront was first announced in 2016.


It's worth noting that the last time Homofront attacked New Edom directly, they had to arrive in the country from outside.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:54 am

To be frank, vast majority of people here overestimate what Homofront can, and can't do.

Truth is, there is no "Homofront" as an organization. It's a network of isolated cells and one wolves that has no real command & control structure; let alone being an unitary organization, as even suicidal teens that shoot up schools will label themselves "Homofront" just to gain attention.

Pay in mind that most of Homofront's terror attacks were carried out by small cells that rarely numbered more than five people.

Due to modern decentralized circulation of information, however, Homofront is able to punch way above it's weight. Media will always focus on most thrill - gripping events, and Homofront is always willing to deliver that - even when most of their attacks are symbolic in nature rather than being capable of causing any major harm to the state's ability to function.
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Postby Kylarnatia » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:27 am

It's probably best if New Edom reaches out to the player directly via telegram as OP and asks them to clarify what it is they want to achieve. If they don't then participate in any dialogue, it is possibly best to ignore their actions / ask them to leave the thread.
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Postby New Edom » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:38 am

I did reach out to the player for clarification and haven't gotten a response yet.
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Postby Ru- » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:45 pm

finally posted my response to New Edom. Basically if I wasn't clear enough, the Ambassador is trying to give Jeremiah and the Edomites his permission to simply refuse to leave, essentially taking over/occupying the embassy so that he will be able to secretly allow them to stay while publicly obeying the Ruvian government and giving in to New Edom's request, blaming the protesters themselves for why they are still there when the deadline passes, and arguing that there is nothing he or Ru can do about it. Ru is likely to believe his deception, because I don't see any reason how or why it wouldn't.

Kylarnatia wrote:It's probably best if New Edom reaches out to the player directly via telegram as OP and asks them to clarify what it is they want to achieve. If they don't then participate in any dialogue, it is possibly best to ignore their actions / ask them to leave the thread.


I agree with this. Hate to say it because they seem to be putting alot of effort into what they are writing, but english does not appear to be their first language and they come across to me as being quite a bit in over their head. Their posts could also be very disruptive to the rest of the RP if taken seriously. I'm surprised New Edom hasn't decided to do those things already. More patient then I would have been.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:51 pm

Whoops sorry I posted. I thought it was one of those open threads where you just pop in and drop a post.
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Postby Ru- » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:54 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Whoops sorry I posted. I thought it was one of those open threads where you just pop in and drop a post.


It's an open RP more or less. I'm sure no one minds as long as you put in the effort to take it seriously.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:56 pm

Ru- wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Whoops sorry I posted. I thought it was one of those open threads where you just pop in and drop a post.


It's an open RP more or less. I'm sure no one minds as long as you put in the effort to take it seriously.

So were my posts fine then?
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Postby Ru- » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:57 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Ru- wrote:
It's an open RP more or less. I'm sure no one minds as long as you put in the effort to take it seriously.

So were my posts fine then?


That's up to New Edom. I think they're ok
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Postby Common Territories » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:39 pm

Ru- wrote:finally posted my response to New Edom. Basically if I wasn't clear enough, the Ambassador is trying to give Jeremiah and the Edomites his permission to simply refuse to leave, essentially taking over/occupying the embassy so that he will be able to secretly allow them to stay while publicly obeying the Ruvian government and giving in to New Edom's request, blaming the protesters themselves for why they are still there when the deadline passes, and arguing that there is nothing he or Ru can do about it. Ru is likely to believe his deception, because I don't see any reason how or why it wouldn't.

Kylarnatia wrote:It's probably best if New Edom reaches out to the player directly via telegram as OP and asks them to clarify what it is they want to achieve. If they don't then participate in any dialogue, it is possibly best to ignore their actions / ask them to leave the thread.


I agree with this. Hate to say it because they seem to be putting alot of effort into what they are writing, but english does not appear to be their first language and they come across to me as being quite a bit in over their head. Their posts could also be very disruptive to the rest of the RP if taken seriously. I'm surprised New Edom hasn't decided to do those things already. More patient then I would have been.


Well the thing is is that Edom has tried to get ahold of them and they're simply refusing to respond. Edom and now I have made it clear (by name even) that we wont tolerate nations just trying to land "peacekeepers" like they own the place; any sensible nation would be upset, but a capable nation would also have the means to disrupt such actions. The only thing left we can do is ban them from the thread, which I at least am not in favor of yet since they haven't broken a thread rule yet. So honestly I think the only thing left besides the whole banning thing is to let the chickens come home to roost until they prove the break a rule, or Edom simply wants them out.

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