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Austrian Catholics Renounce the Pope [OPEN]

Postby Ostterreich » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:18 pm

Vieanna, Austrian Federal State, 13:45 12.02.18
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Thousands of Catholics from around Austria gathered to renounce the Pope as an Apostate and Bolshevik agent due to his ultra-liberal and pro-gay stances. The Fatherland Front organized a rally to declare total disengagement from the Vatican. The party also calls for a new Pope to be selected to represent pure Christanity, the Martyrs of Christ, the Saints and Jesus.

Austria also calls on international Christian and Catholic states to join the sacred revival.

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Postby Il Borgia Vaticano » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:24 pm

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A Letter from the Holy Mother


To All Our Catholic Subjects in the Land of Austria,

We know not of anyone named Franciscus, but you are commanded to return immediately into the fold of this our apostolic church. Austria is and always has been a bastion of orthodox catholic strength in a world slipping ever far away from the sanctity of God. This bastion must remain strong lest our church collapse and be forgotten. It is from this fear we write this request, and from our position as sanctified head of the universal church we command you to do follow them.

This is not an excommunication, not yet, but persistence in this error will result in such actions. You will return to orthodoxy immediately, and cease in the attacks on our church. You must send your highest bishop to Rome to make peace and show your submission to the Church, where he will kiss my ring and publicly apologize for the error of your laity and government. You must permit our inquisition to immediately make an investigation into the causes of this heretical movement and the punishment of its perpetrators.

Think carefully, pray on it, and return to the Aegis of the Mary, The Mother of Christ.

From,
Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Daughter of the Mother of The Church, Shepard of the Flock of Jesus Christ, Sole and Most Sanctified Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Mother Superior of All Convents, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.

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Postby Ostterreich » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:27 pm

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"We humbly respect your holiness and understand the sacred demands but we obey Christ and the Father before men. We ask Pope Francis setps down from power and a new Holy Father is selected for the greater good of the Holy Apostolistic Church. We fear a plot has been orchestrated by the Bolshevik, New World Order, Zionist Globalists against our religion and as a Catholic party it is our duty to defend Christianity.

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Sincerly the Fatherland Front

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Postby Bogan Laker » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:29 pm

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Postby Il Borgia Vaticano » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:39 pm

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"We humbly respect your holiness and understand the sacred demands but we obey Christ and the Father before men. We ask Pope Francis setps down from power and a new Holy Father is selected for the greater good of the Holy Apostolistic Church. We fear a plot has been orchestrated by the Bolshevik, New World Order, Zionist Globalists against our religion and as a Catholic party it is our duty to defend Christianity.

-
Sincerly the Fatherland Front


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A Letter from the Holy Mother


To All Our Catholic Subjects in the Land of Austria,

Franciscus was defrocked, tortured, and executed long ago by our own Cardinal Dueze. You need not worry about his speech anymore. The only papal authority to recognize is our own. Franciscus is not pope. Clementia XV is the papissa. Follow the instructions given by the preceding letter.

Thank you.

From,
Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Daughter of the Mother of The Church, Shepard of the Flock of Jesus Christ, Sole and Most Sanctified Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Mother Superior of All Convents, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:58 pm

To our Austrian brethren;
Prussia-Poland stands with you in your resistance to the illegitimate Pope. As we have set aside our differences and allied several times-to defeat the Ottoman Turks, Napoleon, the Danes, and the Entente-so we shall ally again.

Hold fast, German brothers. We are rushing now to your aid.

-Signed;
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Postby Ostterreich » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:57 pm

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"Austria thanks Prussia-Poland for their solidarity and we thank the Vatican for taking action against the Bolshevik infiltrator. Austria seeks to lead the world and our international partners against Bolshevism and Globalism and we refuse to let our faith be targeted in their plans.

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Postby Riocht mor Daraen » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:06 pm

Sad to see this heresy.
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Postby Il Borgia Vaticano » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:06 pm

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A Letter from the Holy Mother


To All Our Catholic Subjects in the Land of Austria and Germany and Poland,

You're all welcome in regards to Franciscus, but these threats of disunion and heresy from both Austria and Poland-Prussia are quite worrying for the holy mother church. It thus through out papal prerogative that we request the following of our instructions in the first communique. This is for both Austria and Poland-Prussia. Refusal to do so will be considered apostasy and make both states liable for interdiction and excommunication.

You have a week to do so.

From,
Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Daughter of the Mother of The Church, Shepard of the Flock of Jesus Christ, Sole and Most Sanctified Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Mother Superior of All Convents, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.
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Immigrants to the papal empire must meet Church qualifications, per decision by labor board.-|-Following a mistake in paperwork, the 18+ rule for access to pornography has been abolished. Church plans to fix this eventually.-|-Fearing the withering of the dynasty due to many Borgia deaths in the last civil war, Pope Soter II has legalized 'ius primae noctis' for all members of the Borgia family.

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Postby San Golfo de Delfino » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:18 am

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The Sole and Holy Papacy of Il Borgia Vaticano
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Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV,
Esteemed Chancellor of Osterreich,

while religion should be a private matter and quite honestly the Duchy couldn't care less for this little squabbles I'm concerned about the hostility that the last message from the esteemed Papissa Clementia XV implied.
The Duchy will remain neutral in this matter however to solve this conflict quick and peaceful I'm hereby proposing a mediation between Osterreich and the Holy See to avoid the destruction of political porcelain.
If you both agree I'm inviting delegations to my palace at St. Paola. A place that has seen many conflicts deescalated over the last 300 years.
In case you are interested in this mediation, I would ask everyone to refrain from ultimate demands. This will only complicate negotiations.
sincerely
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Postby New Aeyariss » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:27 am

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MON OF MAKI KOJIRO, SHOGUN OF THE EMPIRE OF GREATER NIFON

Honorable excellencies;,

I, Maki Kojiro, Shogun of the Empire of Greater Nifon, am addressing this letter to the offices of all concerned parties: both as a Shogun, and as follower of Krishtoukyo. While not, in any way, Catholic, and playing my role as shikken of the Empire of Greater Nifon, I will not express my views on theological controversies from my office; for those views relate merely to my own person and my own understanding of the Lord of Heaven and his Son, Jesus Christ - and it's not my duty, as representative of secular, Earthly power, to intervene in relations between Heaven and Man. What I do am concerned are geopolitical implications of this split.

While by all means the Empire of Greater Nifon condemns the dishonorable okama that abuse themselves with men, and minpon liberalism in all it's detestable forms; it's not duty of the Empire of Greater Nifon to dictate other nations how they should govern themselves; rather it's duty of their populations and their shikkens alone; and the Lord of Heaven shall judge them on basis of their deeds. However, it's fully to the contrary to the interests of the Empire of Greater Nifon for a major religious conflict to erupt at this point. Aware of the past history of religious wars in the lands of the gaijin, I therefore implore all parties not to follow the mistakes of the past that finally gave us the Thirty - Years War; and led to endless bloodshed across the Europe that costed thousands of people their lives.

Finally I would like to offer my official warning to Clementia-san, not as a religious leader, but as one shikken to another; If your excellency intends to follow the path of the detestable tyrant Qi Shi Huang, who in the days of old in the land of So trampled the people and virtue alike under his foot; your excellency shall loose the mandate of heaven and be cast down just like Nebuchedezzar-heika did before you. Thus, for the purpose of preserving the current system of collective security in the lands of gaijin, I am urging your excellency to resolve this matter through peaceful, diplomatic means.

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Postby Yoannes » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:44 pm

To: The Austrian Federal State
From: Natasha Alovska, 27th President of the Republic of Yoannes

To my concern,

We demand to the Austrian Federal State, a state deeply marked with christian faith in his history,to control these rallies to avoid civil violence in these rallies and ensure the security of all the people in the nation. As such,the Republic declared neutrality about these interior troubles!


To: The State of Il Borgia Vaticano
From: Natasha Alovska, 27th President of the Republic of Yoannes

To my concern,

We demand to the State of Il Borgia Vaticano to not interfere in countries internal politics and views on the religion, People must have the right to think what they want! As such,the Republic declared neutrality!
Yoannes

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Postby Il Borgia Vaticano » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:24 am

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A Letter from the Holy Mother


To All Our Catholic Subjects,

We have received your advice and requests, but we must reject them and remind all of the god-given authority that the See of Peter entails over the Church it rules. We are not threatening military action of any kind, but the use of legal authority vested in the Roman pontiff to keep the flock in line and away from the damnation that comes from heretical actions. We may be a woman occupying a throne inhabited almost solely by men, but this does not mean we will yield our authority in spiritual matters to those beneath our sanctified position. Our reign for the past eight years has been one of reform and justice for all. Yet when we assert our traditional authority, that is when we come under fire for being tyrannical. Our model for rule is not that of Qin Shi Huang, but we begin to understand the plight of the Tianhou Wu Zetien.

It should be noted that in the infallible opinions of our predecessors, both the original author Pope Boniface VIII, and promulgated again by Julius IV that "Both, therefore, are in the power of the Church, that is to say, the spiritual and the material sword, but the former is to be administered for the Church but the latter by the Church; the former in the hands of the priest; the latter by the hands of kings and soldiers, but at the will and sufferance of the priest....Hence we must recognize the more clearly that spiritual power surpasses in dignity and in nobility any temporal power whatever, as spiritual things surpass the temporal."

The ultimatum remains for Austria and Poland-Prussia.

From,
Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Daughter of the Mother of The Church, Shepard of the Flock of Jesus Christ, Sole and Most Sanctified Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Mother Superior of All Convents, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.
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Immigrants to the papal empire must meet Church qualifications, per decision by labor board.-|-Following a mistake in paperwork, the 18+ rule for access to pornography has been abolished. Church plans to fix this eventually.-|-Fearing the withering of the dynasty due to many Borgia deaths in the last civil war, Pope Soter II has legalized 'ius primae noctis' for all members of the Borgia family.

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Postby New Mivango » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:41 am

To: Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Daughter of the Mother of The Church, Shepherd of the Flock of Jesus Christ, Sole and Most Sanctified Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Mother Superior of All Convents, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.
From: Jean-Baptiste Tsis, Presidential Candidate of the Christian National Bloc of New Mivango; Andre Tsis, Chairman of the Christian National Bloc
Re: Female Pope?


Your Holiness,

We must admit to being most perplexed at this rather shocking and uncanonical election of a female Pontiff, given that women are not even permitted to be ordained to the priesthood of any order as far as we know. Perhaps you care to elaborate as to both this mystifying transformation of papal succession contrary to canon law, to this loyal and humble son of Holy Mother Church, as well as the rather abrupt removal of His Holiness, Pope Francis I.

Sincerely,
Jean-Baptiste Tsis
Andre Tsis
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Postby Alexiandra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:37 am

Open Communiqué from the People of Alexiandra

Austria's recent renunciation of allegiance to the Pope is a double-edged development, with both positive and negative implications. On the one hand, the people of Austria have emancipated themselves from one of the most historically oppressive and reactionary hierarchies ever seen. On the other hand, they have done so for all the wrong reasons; namely, their opposition to LGBTQ+ rights, hysteria over 'Bolshevism', and the Church's supposed deviations from Catholic orthodoxy. The people of Alexiandra are deeply alarmed by these spurious justifications, all of which contribute to worldwide hatred and the suppression of radical movements. In response, we as Alexiandrans feel the need to reaffirm our commitment to safeguarding the rights of all gay, bisexual, transsexual, transgender and genderqueer individuals. Moreover, we would implore the people of Austria to question the provenance of their Bolshevik fear-mongering. Historically, capitalists and capitalist media organisations have stoked fears about communism and 'Bolshevism' to discourage opposition to the obvious injustices of the capitalist system itself. Worse, their attempts to generate reactionary sentiment have often been informed by anti-Semitic prejudices; the German Nazi regime, for example, used 'Bolshevism' and 'Judaism' synonymously in many instances. Finally, in rejecting attempts to reform the Catholic faith, Austrians are doing a disservice to the very religion they claim to revere. The march of liberal values will continue inexorably on, regardless of the stance Austrians take. By aligning their own religion against such values, therefore, they are numbering its days by setting it on a collision course with vastly more powerful political trends.

The Alexiandran Republic hopes that Austria will turn away from its religious fanaticism, ceding to minority communities the rights they deserve as human beings. As communists, we Alexiandrans deplore the unnecessary use of violence - and yet, if the minority populations of Austria were to be threatened, violence would become necessary to defend them. Austria, and Austria alone, has the power to abandon the path of strife it has chosen.

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His Erbonian Majesty's Government commends the Catholic peoples of Austria on their wise and sagacious decision to renounce the anti-Christ so-called Pope and Bishop of Rome. Clearly being peoples of faith blessed and guided by God and the Holy Ghost in this matter, the Lord High Almoner of the Kingdom of Great Nortend exhorts the Austrian peoples to establish their own holy and Catholic church.

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Postby Ostterreich » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:46 am

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FEDERAL STATE OF AUSTRIA

We call for fellow Christian nations to adhere to the anti-Communist and anti-Liberal infiltration against the Vatican. Austria thanks all international shows of solidarity and we know that the brotherhood that exists between our nations will bring us closer through Christ our Lord and Savior in this difficult time.

Our country also condemns in the highest of terms of the stance of Alexiandra and their defense of Marxist-Bolshevism and their stance against our Christian values and generally Liberal world view and we will ignore their calls for obvious reasons and continue our boycott against Pope Francis the traitor until a new Pope with proper values and insight is selected.

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Postby Il Borgia Vaticano » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:21 pm

New Mivango wrote:
To: Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Daughter of the Mother of The Church, Shepherd of the Flock of Jesus Christ, Sole and Most Sanctified Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Mother Superior of All Convents, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.
From: Jean-Baptiste Tsis, Presidential Candidate of the Christian National Bloc of New Mivango; Andre Tsis, Chairman of the Christian National Bloc
Re: Female Pope?


Your Holiness,

We must admit to being most perplexed at this rather shocking and uncanonical election of a female Pontiff, given that women are not even permitted to be ordained to the priesthood of any order as far as we know. Perhaps you care to elaborate as to both this mystifying transformation of papal succession contrary to canon law, to this loyal and humble son of Holy Mother Church, as well as the rather abrupt removal of His Holiness, Pope Francis I.

Sincerely,
Jean-Baptiste Tsis
Andre Tsis


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To All Our Catholic Subjects,

Our election was within line to reforms made by our Borgia predecessors decades ago. This is not an issue up for debate. We were not an ordained priest, if you are so worried about that, merely a Mother-Supieror to the Sisters of Saint Clara of Gandia. We were appointed Dean Apostolic Court of Audience and Apolstolic Signatura by our direct predecessor, Helius I. It was from this qualification as well as our support for criminal justice reform (We reigned in the Inquisitions greater excesses in the last years), which was the source of our election as Pontifex.

Anti-pope Francis' deposition was not our doing, but an action by our admitted rival in justice, Cardinal Claude d'Euse-De Borgia. Our Grand Master of Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition oversaw the trial and execution of the man before our election as Papissa. It must be said our responses here constitute only an action of orthodoxy on behalf of the church, not a condoning of the aims and policies of Austria. It is one done with great reservation and reluctance on our part, as our country does not willfully suppress the loves and freedoms of its citizens regardless of their sexual orientation. If anything its the opposite. For example, after a coup attempt earlier in the century, the Swiss Guard has been replaced by The Papal Sacred Band of Sergius and Bacchus. They are 300 pairs of male lovers sworn to defend the Pope and Church with their lives.

We hope to have enlightened you on this issue, but we will not broach it anymore beyond this letter. Austria and Poland-Prussia have six days to accede to our requests.

From,
Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Daughter of the Mother of The Church, Shepard of the Flock of Jesus Christ, Sole and Most Sanctified Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Mother Superior of All Convents, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.
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Open Communiqué from the People of Alexiandra


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Austria's response to the well-intentioned criticism offered by the Alexiandran people is disappointing, but sadly unsurprising. The Federal State clearly remains utterly ignorant on the finer points of leftist economic theory. Any government with even a perfunctory understanding of Marxism can observe that Alexiandra deviates from standard Marxist doctrine in several key ways. Instead of establishing a 'dictatorship of the proletariat', for example, the revolutionary workers of our nation have organised themselves into autonomous, democratic, emancipatory communes dedicated to one another's defence and the defence of the revolution more broadly. Bolshevism, on the other hand, historically emphasised the dictatorship of the proletariat as a necessary prerequisite for the realisation of a communist society and the liberation of the proletariat.

In any case, Austria's callousness in the face of international concern has been noted. The workers of Alexiandra stand, armed and willing, to defend Austria's minorities should the need arise. Rest assured that the communal defence apparatus of the Republic will be watching closely for any signs of human rights abuses in the Federal State, and will not hesitate to act if such abuses are detected. In the meantime, we urge our comrades in Austria to rise up and shrug off the twin shackles of capitalism and wage slavery. Only through worker co-operation and free access to communal resources can humanity's true potential be fulfilled. To the landholding, property-owning class of Austria, we say this: flee now, and surrender your instruments of exploitation. For the revolution will come - and when it does, those unwilling to sacrifice their property will sacrifice their lives.

Down with the state! Down with private property! Down with hierarchy! The workers of the world have nothing to lose but their chains.

Signed,

The Revolutionary People's Committee of Alexiandra
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'A distinction is made in private life between what a man thinks and says of himself and what he really is and does. In historical struggles one must make a still sharper distinction between the phrases and fantasies of the parties and their real organisation and real interests, between their conception of themselves and what they really are.'

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Il Borgia Vaticano
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Postby Il Borgia Vaticano » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:33 pm

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A Letter from the Holy Mother


To All Our Catholic Subjects,

We are saddened to hear of the flagrant and false attempted conversion of Poland-Prussia, and will give them the same deadline regardless to fall back into orthodoxy and Catholic obedience. That all being said, we must say that we cannot allow the perfidious Alexandrian Republic to spread their foul ideology to any Catholic country, and will defend Austria from such stupidity. While this Vatican is in eminent disagreement of Austria's persecution of minorities, the answer to such tyranny must NEVER be godlessness. The declaration from the Alexandrian committee is hereby condemned by both the Church and the Governments of Spain, Italy, The Low Countries and their other dependencies.

This shall be our last latter regarding this mess. We have many other national and religious issues to deal with. With the advice of the curia, from now on we are appointing our Cardinal Claude d'Euse-Borgia to oversee this debacle as Legatus Papam and the new and official Primate of Austria. We wash our hands of the issue, and allow d'Euse full power to administrate the end of it...though we fear we are letting a hungry beast out of its cage.

They have five days.

From,
Her Holiness, Papissa Clementia XV, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Daughter of the Mother of The Church, Shepard of the Flock of Jesus Christ, Sole and Most Sanctified Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Mother Superior of All Convents, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.

Cosigned by

His Catholic Majesty, Carlos V de Borja, the King of the Spanish, King of Castile, of León, of Aragon, of the Two Sicilies, of Jerusalem, of Navarre, of Granada, of Seville, of Toledo, of Valencia, of Galicia, of Sardinia, of Córdoba, of Corsica, of Murcia, of Jaén, of the Algarves, of Algeciras, of Gibraltar, of the Canary Islands, of the East and West Indies, of the Islands and Mainland of the Ocean Sea; Grand Duke of Tuscany; Duke of Parma, of Brabant, of Milan, of Gandia and Modena; Count of Flanders, of Roussillon, and of Barcelona; Lord of Biscay and of Molina de Aragón; Captain General & Supreme Commander of the Royal Armed Forces; Sovereign Grand Master of the Order of the Golden Fleece and of the orders awarded by the Spanish state.
"He who builds on the people, builds on the mud."~Machiavelli, The Prince
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Postby Prusenreich » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:58 pm

So you finally realize that the pope is just some guy in a funny hat.
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Alexiandra
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Postby Alexiandra » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:03 am

Open Communiqué from the Alexiandran People

The Vatican's condemnation of the Alexiandran Republic is little more than the tragic death-throe of a rotting, oppressive historical atavism. The Catholic Church has been responsible for more suffering than almost any other organisation in human history, from its passivity in the face of the slave trade to its persecution of sexual minorities and support for the most brutal dictatorships ever seen in Europe. Workers' self-determination is a principle antithetical to the Church's teachings, which emphasise blind submission to an overarching power and ignorant faith over enlightened scientific reasoning. While religion in its individualistic, personal form is a right that must be protected, organised religion is little more than a synonym for domination and hierarchy. The Vatican's ostensible compassion for minorities is belied by its historical record, which is one of relentless persecution and bloody extirpation. Never again will the scourge of organised religion be permitted to exercise its toxic hold on the workers of our Republic; never again will the Vatican be permitted to hunt and discriminate against the vibrant minority cultures of Austria or the world as a whole. Any attempt made by the Vatican to forcibly compel Austrian obedience will be contested, on equally forcible terms, by Alexiandra's people-at-arms.
'A distinction is made in private life between what a man thinks and says of himself and what he really is and does. In historical struggles one must make a still sharper distinction between the phrases and fantasies of the parties and their real organisation and real interests, between their conception of themselves and what they really are.'

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Il Borgia Vaticano
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Postby Il Borgia Vaticano » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:33 pm

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A Letter from the Desk of Cardinal d'Euse-Borgia


To the heretical peoples of the world,

I have been appointed to a very serious task, one in which I pledge to see to the very end and do with diligence and fury. The disobedience of Austria and Poland-Prussia must be expunged immediately, and it is now my job to do so. Her Holiness has given me total authority as Primate of Austria as well as Poland-Prussia (this appointment is a temporary office), and in this capacity I will be overseeing an inquisition immediately into the activities, beliefs, financial transactions, living arrangements etc. etc. Austrian clergy. In the coming days my agents within the Austrian hierarchy now under my control will begin sending me all documents deemed pertinent to the recent heresies. Clergymen or monastic followers who refuse will be immediately defrocked and excommunicated from our Holy Mother Church.

It will be now noted that the Papissa is willing to dispense to the abject humiliation that would be a forcing Austrian leaders to kiss her ring. While I disagree with this course of action, I will offer it to both Austria and Poland-Prussia that in return for allowing the Inquisition to launch a total and full investigation of both states in return four an immediate end to this situation. No declarations of obedience, no kissing rings, just pretend like it never happened. We will overlook any and all...humanitarian failings of either states. The original ultimatum time, however remains in place.

As for the Alexandrian Republic, I do not care for the opinions of godless infidels. This is a purely theological matter and since they don't have theology to speak of, they should keep quiet. I have personally burned hundreds of godless heathens, and I will burn more so long as god lets me keep my office. Fools.

They have four days.

From,
His Eminence, Cardinal Claude d'Euse-Borgia, Prince-Archbishop and Castellan of The Palace of Avignon, Primate of Austria, of Poland, and Prussia, Prefect and Grand Master of Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition and Congregation for the Causes of Saints, Doctor of The Sciences in Entomology from The University of Bolgona specializing in Stinging Insects, and Archbishop of Lyons
"He who builds on the people, builds on the mud."~Machiavelli, The Prince
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NEWS TICKER:
Immigrants to the papal empire must meet Church qualifications, per decision by labor board.-|-Following a mistake in paperwork, the 18+ rule for access to pornography has been abolished. Church plans to fix this eventually.-|-Fearing the withering of the dynasty due to many Borgia deaths in the last civil war, Pope Soter II has legalized 'ius primae noctis' for all members of the Borgia family.

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Postby Democratic Empire of Romania » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:48 pm

New Bucharest, Capital Sector, Democratic Empire of Romania
06/12/2018


To His Holiness, Pope Francisc I
It has come to my attention the separate cult which calls for a new Pope. Their problem seems to be that the official and legitimate Papacy has been promoting more open policies. And this is good. Everyone, despite race, sex, religion, ethnicity or opinion, is equal. The Catholic Church did the good thing choosing this side.

What they deem as bad is the expected opposition from the conservatives. They strain themselves in boundaries. Yet, one's decisions and intimacy are theirs and remain private. The grotesque desire to control one life is what guides them, indeed.

Myself, I decided to take under observation this cult and its growth.The diverse ethnic spectrum of my empire may appeal to the new philosophies which arose in Austria and Poland-Prussia. The Bureau of Cult Security shall occupy with that. I'll make sure a report is done for His Holiness, concerning this new cult.

Until further meetings,

Have a good day.

High Imperator Constantin I
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