The Red Tiger Rises (OOC/OPEN-TG/MT)

[Brittanic Albion]

Out-of-Character thread for 'The Red Tiger Rises'. Please ping me a telegram for entry. I imagine this will escalate to war, but try not to rush in all gung ho, please have some build up. Ta very much and enjoy.

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[Bulgar Rouge]

Looks promising. Summary of events/world?

[Shackley]

Tag. Looking forward to getting involved.

Nothing beats a spot of commie-bashing alongside fellow Imperials

[Brittanic Albion]

Looks promising. Summary of events/world?

The world is rather nebulous, but essentially Brittanic Albion is the British empire with a few tweaks here and there and exists within the geographic earth but also within the NS world too.

Essentially China is trying to dislodge Albion from south east asia and Hong Kong by funding proxies in Malaysia who are being actively hunted. Albion has no alliances with other countries so whilst it is interventionist and anti-leftist it is not officially aligned with any powerbloc. Albion is sort of democratic but its House of Lords has much more power than the modern one and is almost exclusively hereditary save for Bishops and some very distinguished people who have been awarded a title. Its electorate is limited to male landowners over the age of 20 and each of the Dominions has its own parliament but have their defence and foreign policy centralised in London.


Albion is primarily focused on naval strength and boasts 9 carrier strike fleets along with a further 12 helicopter/amphibious carriers but also has a medium sized highly trained volunteer army. Albion does not use conscription but relies on certain groups in society being highly militarised either through culture or by long term exposure. Colonial subjects are kept in line largely through a shared identity but also the fear of communism, China and a 'if its not us its someone less benevolent' mentality.

Tag. Looking forward to getting involved.

Nothing beats a spot of commie-bashing alongside fellow Imperials

Cracking stuff

[Bulgar Rouge]

Sounds fitting. The Bulgar Rouge are an extreme left group exploiting social disorder and conflict throughout the world to implement their radical agrarian ideology. Its a form of total collectivism where the individual is obliterated in favour of a decentralised, organic, aggressive communal society. I have a satellite nation, the Transitional Heavenly State, which operates in Southeast Asia in quasi-state form (kind of like ISIL). It could be a communist force in this conflict, even if it's hostile to China.

[Brittanic Albion]

Sounds fitting. The Bulgar Rouge are an extreme left group exploiting social disorder and conflict throughout the world to implement their radical agrarian ideology. Its a form of total collectivism where the individual is obliterated in favour of a decentralised, organic, aggressive communal society. I have a satellite nation, the Transitional Heavenly State, which operates in Southeast Asia in quasi-state form (kind of like ISIL). It could be a communist force in this conflict, even if it's hostile to China.

Cracking stuff. How heavily armed is it?

[Bulgar Rouge]

Sounds fitting. The Bulgar Rouge are an extreme left group exploiting social disorder and conflict throughout the world to implement their radical agrarian ideology. Its a form of total collectivism where the individual is obliterated in favour of a decentralised, organic, aggressive communal society. I have a satellite nation, the Transitional Heavenly State, which operates in Southeast Asia in quasi-state form (kind of like ISIL). It could be a communist force in this conflict, even if it's hostile to China.

Cracking stuff. How heavily armed is it?

The THS has practically taken control of Laos, so it can deploy its entire military if needed, along with individual units of the Vietnamese and Burmese militaries. In addition to that, it has about 200,000 militants with small arms and AT/AA weapons supplied by the Bulgar Rouge.

[Brittanic Albion]

Cracking stuff. How heavily armed is it?

The THS has practically taken control of Laos, so it can deploy its entire military if needed, along with individual units of the Vietnamese and Burmese militaries. In addition to that, it has about 200,000 militants with small arms and AT/AA weapons supplied by the Bulgar Rouge.

Crumbs, ha ha. How would it deploy its military?

[Bulgar Rouge]

The THS has practically taken control of Laos, so it can deploy its entire military if needed, along with individual units of the Vietnamese and Burmese militaries. In addition to that, it has about 200,000 militants with small arms and AT/AA weapons supplied by the Bulgar Rouge.

Crumbs, ha ha. How would it deploy its military?

Using civilian means of transport, mostly. The BR may assist with some fast smuggling ships.

[Brittanic Albion]

Crumbs, ha ha. How would it deploy its military?

Using civilian means of transport, mostly. The BR may assist with some fast smuggling ships.

Coolio. Well I look forward to your involvement

[Allanea]

I heard there was Communism and I came as fast as I could.

[Brittanic Albion]

I heard there was Communism and I came as fast as I could.

Cracking stuff, what would your involvement look like?

[Astoria]

I expressed interest via TG, I probably won't be able to put an IC post up until later this week but I was thinking initially I could be providing satellite intelligence and other support to Albion, and possibly expand that depending on how the RP develops

[Shackley]

I heard there was Communism and I came as fast as I could.

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All that aside it'll be nice to see how this plays out. I think it'll be good to keep Shackley off the frontlines this time, some less-than-symmetrical warfare would do us some good.

[Grater Tovakia]

Hmmm looks interesting...

oh hi, Shackley... and Allanea.

[Allanea]

My support is going to depend largely on what's going to be happening in the RP, that's to say...

1. Allanea isn't exactly known for being big fans of Maoism or other totalitarian forms of Communist ideology [and they ain't too fond of the 'non-totalitarian' forms either].
2. But on the other hand it doesn't want to get involved with significant costs to itself if it turns out Albion et al. are not competent, or are corrupt, or whatnot. So its involvement will be limited in scope at first, and likely at first be in diplomatic forms (trying to work out trade agreements with Britannic Albion, maybe some subtle economic assistance to Shackley).
3. If, as it appears to be likely at the moment, there's going to be lots of fighting against some foe that appears to be compatible with Allanea's policy of stabbing totalitarians whenever they are vulnerable, Allaneans will take up an assisting role, perhaps in the form of air strikes to support Brittanic Union - think America's air strikes against North Vietnam and Laos). Failing that, I could also interrogate some captives or engage in some manner of reconnaissance and espionage - as Shackley here knows, I have a whole bunch of tricks up my sleeve.

[Shackley]

Seeing as my navy is pretty much buggered I think airstrikes and minor troop movements are going to be the bread and butter of this bolshie-bashing sandwich.
I can certainly attest to the depth and capacity of Allanea's sleeves

[Grater Tovakia]

When approved I will most likely begin with ISR support and maybe a ship or two for logistics. If it escalates some advisors may be sent. The only way I see my military getting full involved would be if China took direct action.

[Brittanic Albion]

I expressed interest via TG, I probably won't be able to put an IC post up until later this week but I was thinking initially I could be providing satellite intelligence and other support to Albion, and possibly expand that depending on how the RP develops

Cracking stuff

My support is going to depend largely on what's going to be happening in the RP, that's to say...

1. Allanea isn't exactly known for being big fans of Maoism or other totalitarian forms of Communist ideology [and they ain't too fond of the 'non-totalitarian' forms either].
2. But on the other hand it doesn't want to get involved with significant costs to itself if it turns out Albion et al. are not competent, or are corrupt, or whatnot. So its involvement will be limited in scope at first, and likely at first be in diplomatic forms (trying to work out trade agreements with Britannic Albion, maybe some subtle economic assistance to Shackley).
3. If, as it appears to be likely at the moment, there's going to be lots of fighting against some foe that appears to be compatible with Allanea's policy of stabbing totalitarians whenever they are vulnerable, Allaneans will take up an assisting role, perhaps in the form of air strikes to support Brittanic Union - think America's air strikes against North Vietnam and Laos). Failing that, I could also interrogate some captives or engage in some manner of reconnaissance and espionage - as Shackley here knows, I have a whole bunch of tricks up my sleeve.

Albion would not appreciate another nation conducting airstrikes in its own territory, that should be noted now. We welcome support against larger foes that we meet in conflict elsewhere -but an internal insurgency is best handled internally for political reasons.

When approved I will most likely begin with ISR support and maybe a ship or two for logistics. If it escalates some advisors may be sent. The only way I see my military getting full involved would be if China took direct action.

Again, military help is welcome once this gets beyond our borders, but Albion would not stomach another nation intervening in its private affairs.

[Brittanic Albion]

Right chaps are we ready to get this train rolling?

[Allanea]

Tally-ho, pip pip!

[Shackley]

Abso-bloody-lutely

[Brittanic Albion]

Abso-bloody-lutely

Splendid, hope to see some posts up soon.

[Shackley]

Abso-bloody-lutely

Splendid, hope to see some posts up soon.

Perfectly happy to start posting myself unless you were planning on posting soon OP?
I take it Shackley fits into this world well enough: former British colony, fictional island/s in the North Atlantic, technologically competent capitalist nation rebuilding from a previous anti-communist war?

And there's Allanea too but that business is more complicated methinks. Also good to see Tovakia again. For a communist nation you have a habit of going to war against larger communist nations.

Anyway I may make a diplomatic communique to Albion offering military aid in return for financial/technological compensation. Or maybe just take some territorial possessions from the commies. Or I might just do it for the hell of it, we'll see.
Butter my scones and call me Excalibur, we're going to war boys!

[Brittanic Albion]

Splendid, hope to see some posts up soon.

Perfectly happy to start posting myself unless you were planning on posting soon OP?
I take it Shackley fits into this world well enough: former British colony, fictional island/s in the North Atlantic, technologically competent capitalist nation rebuilding from a previous anti-communist war?

And there's Allanea too but that business is more complicated methinks. Also good to see Tovakia again. For a communist nation you have a habit of going to war against larger communist nations.

Anyway I may make a diplomatic communique to Albion offering military aid in return for financial/technological compensation. Or maybe just take some territorial possessions from the commies. Or I might just do it for the hell of it, we'll see.
Butter my scones and call me Excalibur, we're going to war boys!

Former colony eh? Interesting. I will post once others start, so I have some stuff to respond to. I might start having China move its chess pieces around. Militry aid will be welcome once it becomes apparent the issue is no longer domestic.