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The Red Tiger Rises (OOC/OPEN-TG/MT)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Caracasus
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:36 pm

I think (hope?) The OP has given me the go ahead to join in so I will tomorrowish. I'd just like to state here I am not gonna be rolling in the tanks unless it's narratively consistent and I'm actually really liking this so far. Honestly, war RP's are kind of boring and diplomacy and spying is completely where it's at in my books. Some fun nations here that will prove a really good backdrop for all kinds of intruigue.
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Brittanic Albion
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Postby Brittanic Albion » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:31 pm

Cedoria wrote:Post is UP!

Started some 'informational warfare' with cyber operatives and bots on the net, which are spreading Anti-Brittanic propaganda in the wake of the diplomats executions, plus the communique I've written which is the official response.

My planes have done their first drop of supplies to the UCA and are enroute to do the second. I left the results of their foray open in case Brittanic-Albion wants to have his people notice them and try to intercept. While it probably makes it more interesting to let the UCA get the supplies there as well, I wasn't just going to have them succeed without giving you a chance to intercept. Choose to notice and respond by trying to intercept or not as you pick, it's up to you, but the option is open:)


Others are welcome to respond to the execution of diplomats by Brittanic Albion in-universe as well, now that the Cedorians have started hammering them about it. Of course, how you respond publicly and what you do privately might be very different...

So hopefully I've written some stuff people can work into their own posts in the next few days or so. Like always, let me know if there are comments or queries.

Cracking stuff, the only I would say is, and maybe OOCly you are aware of this but the only diplomats that were executed were those who remained in the country after expulsion; hence the charge of espionage. All those who went to the airport and got on a plane were not laid a finger on.
I'll let the UCA get the weapon drops, as it makes it all more interesting, but pray tell where are your planes operating from?
Imperii Magna wrote:I'd like to get back into RP with this. Any chance to destroy communism is welcome, and Imperii Magna would love to be involved with this, using the newly-discovered training of insurgents by China as an impetus to send "peacekeeping forces" to the Asian continent. Imperii Magna is located in modern-day Argentina + some of Brazil, and is a hyper-capitalist society with a well-developed mercenary/PMC military. Awaiting your approval, will send writing sample if I get it.

If you could send a writing sample that would be fabaroonie.
Astoria wrote:Got a post up finally. Finals are still in progress for me IRL so it’s a bit shorter than I wanted, but it lays the groundwork.

Good work. I too have exams but most of my work is essay based and those are done so its ok. Certainly ready to get gollywonkered this Christmas though once my semester is finished.
Shackley wrote:Posted, sorry it's a bit short- I'm a bit hesitant to write anything too long for the moment as I don't want to interfere with pacing too much and also there's only so much I can come up with that's relevant. Would like to see some action soonish but I'm sure OP's got everything planned out nicely.
In any case I'm looking forward to seeing how things play out, from where I'm standing this might become the Shackleyan version of the Vietnam War in our history books. Let's just hope we don't end up losing another war too soon; three lost wars and three new governments in a row might start to look bad.

Keep up the good work chaps

Oh don't you worry you'll be seeing some action too and I've kept a continuum of graphic gore to keep the crowds happy thus far!
Caracasus wrote:I think (hope?) The OP has given me the go ahead to join in so I will tomorrowish. I'd just like to state here I am not gonna be rolling in the tanks unless it's narratively consistent and I'm actually really liking this so far. Honestly, war RP's are kind of boring and diplomacy and spying is completely where it's at in my books. Some fun nations here that will prove a really good backdrop for all kinds of intruigue.

I mean the RP may escalate to war, but you are absolutely right in that the diplomacy and spying is some of the best parts. I'm glad you're really liking the RP so far, its a pleasure to write it.
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:21 am

Right. First post up!

So yeah, for clarification the Caracasusian approach will be one of peacemaking while also trying to find out as much as possible. The first part is from the perspective of the ambassador - the second from an as yet unidentified group and the third from the point of view of part of a Caracasusian naval detachment that is not seriously expecting any actual war.
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:33 pm

I should have a big post up soon. I will be sending Diplomatic communiques to Both Shackley and Albion regarding the current situation. I also plan on deploying a strike group for a show of force (I set that up in my most recent post). My plan is to have the Canberra and maybe 5 other escorts deploy as a show of force, this group will be supported by P-8As. If need be I can start interdiction missions to prevent arms sales to the UCA.
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Postby Cedoria » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:17 pm

Brittanic Albion wrote:
Cedoria wrote:Post is UP!

Started some 'informational warfare' with cyber operatives and bots on the net, which are spreading Anti-Brittanic propaganda in the wake of the diplomats executions, plus the communique I've written which is the official response.

My planes have done their first drop of supplies to the UCA and are enroute to do the second. I left the results of their foray open in case Brittanic-Albion wants to have his people notice them and try to intercept. While it probably makes it more interesting to let the UCA get the supplies there as well, I wasn't just going to have them succeed without giving you a chance to intercept. Choose to notice and respond by trying to intercept or not as you pick, it's up to you, but the option is open:)


Others are welcome to respond to the execution of diplomats by Brittanic Albion in-universe as well, now that the Cedorians have started hammering them about it. Of course, how you respond publicly and what you do privately might be very different...

So hopefully I've written some stuff people can work into their own posts in the next few days or so. Like always, let me know if there are comments or queries.

Cracking stuff, the only I would say is, and maybe OOCly you are aware of this but the only diplomats that were executed were those who remained in the country after expulsion; hence the charge of espionage. All those who went to the airport and got on a plane were not laid a finger on.
I'll let the UCA get the weapon drops, as it makes it all more interesting, but pray tell where are your planes operating from?


OOC we're aware of course. IC Cedoria will of course try to inflame and play up the incident as much as possible. Even with espionage charges, we'd say, there were options other then execution, and they WERE still diplomatic staff.


Planes are operating off a couple of disguised cargo vessels, pretending to just one of the routine Cedorian convoys that routinely goes through the Pacific. They've got a skeleton crew and minimal actual cargo to give them the room, they'll move back once the op is done.

In future supply runs, I'll probably use drones to make drops, as well as using my next couple of posts to slip some People's Intelligence Agency operatives in to establish contacts with UCA cells. Any preference for how I do that?

Let me know if there's any problems with the above, as always:)
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Brittanic Albion
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Postby Brittanic Albion » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:29 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Brittanic Albion wrote:Cracking stuff, the only I would say is, and maybe OOCly you are aware of this but the only diplomats that were executed were those who remained in the country after expulsion; hence the charge of espionage. All those who went to the airport and got on a plane were not laid a finger on.
I'll let the UCA get the weapon drops, as it makes it all more interesting, but pray tell where are your planes operating from?


OOC we're aware of course. IC Cedoria will of course try to inflame and play up the incident as much as possible. Even with espionage charges, we'd say, there were options other then execution, and they WERE still diplomatic staff.


Planes are operating off a couple of disguised cargo vessels, pretending to just one of the routine Cedorian convoys that routinely goes through the Pacific. They've got a skeleton crew and minimal actual cargo to give them the room, they'll move back once the op is done.

In future supply runs, I'll probably use drones to make drops, as well as using my next couple of posts to slip some People's Intelligence Agency operatives in to establish contacts with UCA cells. Any preference for how I do that?

Let me know if there's any problems with the above, as always:)

Good crack. One wee query, can jets drop supplies?
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:22 pm

Great posts so far! I'll send the official communique to Cedoria as part of my next post to keep everything in one place.

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Postby Cedoria » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:30 pm

Brittanic Albion wrote:
Cedoria wrote:
OOC we're aware of course. IC Cedoria will of course try to inflame and play up the incident as much as possible. Even with espionage charges, we'd say, there were options other then execution, and they WERE still diplomatic staff.


Planes are operating off a couple of disguised cargo vessels, pretending to just one of the routine Cedorian convoys that routinely goes through the Pacific. They've got a skeleton crew and minimal actual cargo to give them the room, they'll move back once the op is done.

In future supply runs, I'll probably use drones to make drops, as well as using my next couple of posts to slip some People's Intelligence Agency operatives in to establish contacts with UCA cells. Any preference for how I do that?

Let me know if there's any problems with the above, as always:)

Good crack. One wee query, can jets drop supplies?

Not generally no. I must confess I got a little lazy on this one and just had it be modified old combat jets which are no longer in conventional use being re-fitted for the sake of covert ops, which is the kind of thing Cedorians tend to do a lot of the time when they don't want to risk any fancy new shiny equipment being blown up or reverse engineered.


But I'll probably just try and use drones in the near future, despite the fact that their carry capacity is quite a bit smaller.
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Postby Allanea » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:47 pm

Jets can in fact drop supplies, or at least.

Fighter jets can drop small amounts f supplies in special packages designed to ride on their bomb racks.

Jet cargo planes obviously also exist.
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:24 pm

Allanea wrote:Jets can in fact drop supplies, or at least.

Fighter jets can drop small amounts f supplies in special packages designed to ride on their bomb racks.

Jet cargo planes obviously also exist.

I assumed as much, but I confess I'm not an expert on the RL tech requirements and specifications.

I just presumed in-story that the Intelligence agency had refitted some older jet planes to carry some cargo and drop them. But i that sort of thing is backed by RL technology then that seems like it still works.

Thanks for the insight:)
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Postby Significance » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:17 pm

Hi, I TGed OP but I thought I'd say something while I wait for a reply, just to introduce myself.

My nation is extremely capitalistic, with our armed forces almost entirely mercenary in nature. Our government is a constitutional empire. Ceremonial head of state of empress/emperor, that is a figure head, and an elected Sentate with the head being the prime minister. The land itself is the Island of Significance, which is either Australia or its own entity, depends on the RP, but always in the Pacific ocean.

My goals tend to be aid, diplomacy and protection of the innocent.

Feel free to discuss with me how I'll interact with your nation.

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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:42 am

Why is BA now an ex-nation? :meh:

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Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

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Postby Duhon » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:17 am

Bulgar Rouge wrote:Why is BA now an ex-nation? :meh:


Hi.

Another account of his was given a 7-day ban, which was then upgraded to a DEAT of both accounts plus a 7-day forum ban for ban evasion using the OP's account while the other account was serving a 3-day ban.

That's all.
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Bulgar Rouge
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:45 am

That's a shame.

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Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

The Holy Therns wrote:Politicians make statements. It's their substitute for achievement.

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Postby Shackley » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:21 am

Will he be back?
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:34 am

YGBSM...

I am gonna guess he aint coming back.

may I ask what his original ban was for?
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Postby Significance » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:45 am

So is this a permanent ban, or temporary? I just got the go ahead yesterday, be a shame if it was for nought, I had so many plans! Oh well, the hunt continues.

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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:09 am

Significance wrote:So is this a permanent ban, or temporary? I just got the go ahead yesterday, be a shame if it was for nought, I had so many plans! Oh well, the hunt continues.


It's a week-long ban, so hopefully he'll be back. I got an awesome post drafted.

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Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

The Holy Therns wrote:Politicians make statements. It's their substitute for achievement.

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Postby Significance » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:00 pm

Bulgar Rouge wrote:
Significance wrote:So is this a permanent ban, or temporary? I just got the go ahead yesterday, be a shame if it was for nought, I had so many plans! Oh well, the hunt continues.


It's a week-long ban, so hopefully he'll be back. I got an awesome post drafted.


Looks like I'll be juggling two RPs then probably. I ain't waiting a week, and these things don't last a week anyway (RPs). This'll be interesting...

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Postby Grater Tovakia » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:11 pm

Significance wrote:
Bulgar Rouge wrote:
It's a week-long ban, so hopefully he'll be back. I got an awesome post drafted.


Looks like I'll be juggling two RPs then probably. I ain't waiting a week, and these things don't last a week anyway (RPs). This'll be interesting...


I was in two 3 month long RPs so that is false
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Postby Shackley » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:35 pm

Grater Tovakia wrote:
Significance wrote:
Looks like I'll be juggling two RPs then probably. I ain't waiting a week, and these things don't last a week anyway (RPs). This'll be interesting...


I was in two 3 month long RPs so that is false

Can confirm. Your loyalty and patience was most appreciated
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:06 pm

Shackley wrote:
Grater Tovakia wrote:
I was in two 3 month long RPs so that is false

Can confirm. Your loyalty and patience was most appreciated


that was the second longest RP I was ever in. The longest was the Khataiy war.
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Postby Duhon » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:09 pm

Grater Tovakia wrote:YGBSM...

I am gonna guess he aint coming back.

may I ask what his original ban was for?


Dunno if you need to know this now, but the ban was originally given for flaming. Then shit hit fan and the rest was DEAT.

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Postby New Roma Republic » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:25 am

Hello all, I was asked to say that Brittanic Albion will be back after he is done serving his ban and that the OG ban was for "naughty language". That is all.

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Postby Significance » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:56 am

New Roma Republic wrote:Hello all, I was asked to say that Brittanic Albion will be back after he is done serving his ban and that the OG ban was for "naughty language". That is all.


Thank you. This is a relief.

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