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Al Saranidi School of Insurgency(IC/post-MT or MT)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Kowani » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:19 pm

Mohamed blinked, surprised. It seems I am in the wrong classroom, since I did not exactly sign up for military strategy. Perhaps I should stay anyway, absorb some of the knowledge.

(OOC: Mohamed looks pretty North African, if you need a reference point.)
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:20 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Saranidia wrote:
"Only Allah is undefeatable but he allowed military victory in all known battles to Khaled Ibn Walid, Alexander and Genghis Khan. We know the reasons he allowed it for Khalid but as for Genghis Khan, Allah works in his own mysterious ways."

"But sir, Genghis lost many battles as Temujin. Even as Genghis, he lost in Volga Bulgars. Alexander lost his invasion of India, and the great Khalid had the shameful Ohod, though that was obviously the fault of the faulty followers who failed to comply to his orders correctly."


-after checking the answers- "You're right. Of course this shows a message as well: No strategic genius guarantees success, only Allah can predict who lives and dies"
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:21 pm

Kowani wrote:Mohamed blinked, surprised. It seems I am in the wrong classroom, since I did not exactly sign up for military strategy. Perhaps I should stay anyway, absorb some of the knowledge.

(OOC: Mohamed looks pretty North African, if you need a reference point.)


"You don't have to be here but the other classes are not on yet so go and revise for them or sign up for this one."
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Postby Kowani » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:24 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Mohamed blinked, surprised. It seems I am in the wrong classroom, since I did not exactly sign up for military strategy. Perhaps I should stay anyway, absorb some of the knowledge.

(OOC: Mohamed looks pretty North African, if you need a reference point.)


"You don't have to be here but the other classes are not on yet so go and revise for them or sign up for this one."

Mohamed nodded his assent. I suppose learning Military Strategy could not hurt our people. Thank you, teacher. I shall stay.
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Postby Danceria » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:25 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Frievolk wrote:"Trick Question, sir" Homayun raised his hand, "There exists no military leader to have never been defeated at all. Only Allah is undefeated."


"Only Allah is undefeatable but he allowed military victory in all known battles to Khaled Ibn Walid, Alexander and Genghis Khan. We know the reasons he allowed it for Khalid but as for Genghis Khan, Allah works in his own mysterious ways."

"But what of the Prophet(ﷺ) and his Companions during the Battle of Khaybar?" slightly incredulous that the Apostle of Allah would be left out. "Not to mention Ali ibn Abi Talib, the Uncle of the Prophet, -Peace Be Upon Them Both-? Was it not against the Kharijites at the Battle of Siffin, did not The Almighty grant him victory over those who claim to know better?" he paused, then smiled. "Then it must be one who humbles himself and studies under the guidance of the Almighty, does he become unbeatable."
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Postby Kowani » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:28 pm

Danceria wrote:
Saranidia wrote:
"Only Allah is undefeatable but he allowed military victory in all known battles to Khaled Ibn Walid, Alexander and Genghis Khan. We know the reasons he allowed it for Khalid but as for Genghis Khan, Allah works in his own mysterious ways."

"But what of the Prophet(ﷺ) and his Companions during the Battle of Khaybar?" slightly incredulous that the Apostle of Allah would be left out. "Not to mention Ali ibn Abi Talib, the Uncle of the Prophet, -Peace Be Upon Them Both-? Was it not against the Kharijites at the Battle of Siffin, did not The Almighty grant him victory over those who claim to know better?" he paused, then smiled. "Then it must be one who humbles himself and studies under the guidance of the Almighty, does he become unbeatable."

“No, Sulieman. If the Almighty interfered to save every believer, than what would be the point of the struggle? What of those believers who died in those battles? Allah may guide, but he only interferes for the Prophet himself. He works through us, not for us.”
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:36 pm

"Some very interesting points" You can have a break now and then do post-colonial theory.
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Postby Rusthenia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:49 pm

Muhammad Ali Dzhambek(Real name: Vladislav Ivanov) would walk into the building, the Jihad school? no the School of Insurgery 'my job is to end this school... there's no why there aren't others here with the same goal' he thinks as he holds his handgun tightly he heard it's Post-colonial theory class or something like that he walks with the scar across his face he 'got' when the Rusthenian forces hit him with their pocket-knives and he walks in to see the class already starting he says "Post-colonial theory?"

OOC: he looks like an Russian and an Armenian since hes half Armenian half Russian
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:51 pm

Rusthenia wrote:Muhammad Ali Dzhambek(Real name: Vladislav Ivanov) would walk into the building, the Jihad school? no the School of Insurgery 'my job is to end this school... there's no why there aren't others here with the same goal' he thinks as he holds his handgun tightly he heard it's Post-colonial theory class or something like that he walks with the scar across his face he 'got' when the Rusthenian forces hit him with their pocket-knives and he walks in to see the class already starting he says "Post-colonial theory?"

OOC: he looks like an Russian and an Armenian since hes half Armenian half Russian

"Yes it is, today we will be studying the life and work of Edward Sa'id." says the teacher, a pretty, young, hijabi of Libyan descent
Mostly represents my views but what I think a Middle Eastern nation should do which will be sometimes different to what I think a western nation should do(because the people have different needs in different places)

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Postby Rusthenia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:55 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Rusthenia wrote:Muhammad Ali Dzhambek(Real name: Vladislav Ivanov) would walk into the building, the Jihad school? no the School of Insurgery 'my job is to end this school... there's no why there aren't others here with the same goal' he thinks as he holds his handgun tightly he heard it's Post-colonial theory class or something like that he walks with the scar across his face he 'got' when the Rusthenian forces hit him with their pocket-knives and he walks in to see the class already starting he says "Post-colonial theory?"

OOC: he looks like an Russian and an Armenian since hes half Armenian half Russian

"Yes it is, today we will be studying the life and work of Edward Sa'id." says the teacher, a pretty, young, hijabi of Libyan descent


"Good, I have read his book and studied his theory thanks to my parents" he says before sitting down. thinking 'this is going to be shit'
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:00 pm

Rusthenia wrote:
Saranidia wrote:"Yes it is, today we will be studying the life and work of Edward Sa'id." says the teacher, a pretty, young, hijabi of Libyan descent


"Good, I have read his book and studied his theory thanks to my parents" he says before sitting down. thinking 'this is going to be shit'


"What were Edward Sa'id's main theories?"
Mostly represents my views but what I think a Middle Eastern nation should do which will be sometimes different to what I think a western nation should do(because the people have different needs in different places)

Vote Lisa Nandy

Copy this into your sig if you know sex and gender are different and did not fail biology.

RIP grandpa kitchen

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Postby Frievolk » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:02 pm

As the poorly credentialed Instructor began droning about Edward Sa'id, Homayun rolled his eyes. 'Not Sa'id's retarded beliefs about colonialism again' he thought, though attempted to look like he was listening and paying attention. He could wait for the day to reach its end.
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:04 pm

Frievolk wrote:As the poorly credentialed Instructor began droning about Edward Sa'id, Homayun rolled his eyes. 'Not Sa'id's retarded beliefs about colonialism again' he thought, though attempted to look like he was listening and paying attention. He could wait for the day to reach its end.

OOC:
She is not poorly credentialed, she has a PHD from Oxford.
Mostly represents my views but what I think a Middle Eastern nation should do which will be sometimes different to what I think a western nation should do(because the people have different needs in different places)

Vote Lisa Nandy

Copy this into your sig if you know sex and gender are different and did not fail biology.

RIP grandpa kitchen

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Postby Rusthenia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:05 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Rusthenia wrote:
"Good, I have read his book and studied his theory thanks to my parents" he says before sitting down. thinking 'this is going to be shit'


"What were Edward Sa'id's main theories?"


"should you ask the other students? since I already know this"
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Postby Frievolk » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:06 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Frievolk wrote:As the poorly credentialed Instructor began droning about Edward Sa'id, Homayun rolled his eyes. 'Not Sa'id's retarded beliefs about colonialism again' he thought, though attempted to look like he was listening and paying attention. He could wait for the day to reach its end.

OOC:
She is not poorly credentialed, she has a PHD from Oxford.

OOC: And unironically believes in Post-colonialism as a credible ideology? I don't think so lmao.
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Part-time Anarchist
Anti-Monotheist
Iranian Nationalist
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♔ The Frievolker Empire || Frievolker Kaiserreik
♔ The Realm in the Sun || De Reik in de Sonne
♔ Led by Kaiser Johann, Part of the Erstwelt
Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.

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Postby Danceria » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:06 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Rusthenia wrote:
"Good, I have read his book and studied his theory thanks to my parents" he says before sitting down. thinking 'this is going to be shit'


"What were Edward Sa'id's main theories?"

Thus Sully never had heard of Mr. Sa'id's works, but gradually learned and was amazed. He would have never thought that a British-man born in Palestine would support the Palestinians so, nor write critiques on Eurocentricism. He wondered if there were connections to his own life, having been forced under a Sindarin name and education as per the Assimilation Act of 1864 in Danceria. Like a sponge, he absorbed the knowledge and wrote down several notes.
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It is my sole purpose in life to offend you and get you to think about your convictions due to this
“You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” - Sir Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Obligatory Quotes below
“Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind; and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.” - William Shakespeare.

“Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.” - Mark Twain

“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection.” - Thomas Paine
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Postby Rusthenia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:09 pm

Frievolk wrote:As the poorly credentialed Instructor began droning about Edward Sa'id, Homayun rolled his eyes. 'Not Sa'id's retarded beliefs about colonialism again' he thought, though attempted to look like he was listening and paying attention. He could wait for the day to reach its end.


Muhammad Ali Dzhambek would sit down next to Homayun
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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:12 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Saranidia wrote:OOC:
She is not poorly credentialed, she has a PHD from Oxford.

OOC: And unironically believes in Post-colonialism as a credible ideology? I don't think so lmao.


OOC: There are degrees in post-colonialism at many universities. Besides how is the Iraq war NOT imperialist?
Mostly represents my views but what I think a Middle Eastern nation should do which will be sometimes different to what I think a western nation should do(because the people have different needs in different places)

Vote Lisa Nandy

Copy this into your sig if you know sex and gender are different and did not fail biology.

RIP grandpa kitchen

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Postby Frievolk » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:14 pm

Saranidia wrote:
Frievolk wrote:OOC: And unironically believes in Post-colonialism as a credible ideology? I don't think so lmao.


OOC: There are degrees in post-colonialism at many universities. Besides how is the Iraq war NOT imperialist?
Yeah. And you have degrees in Batmanology (or some other Comics related rubbish like that). Doesn't make them any more a credible subject.
In the way that it was not done for the purpose of colonization, nor the usurping of resources (i.e.Imperialism). Do you think all wars forced by a large power on a small country are imperialism????
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♔ The Frievolker Empire || Frievolker Kaiserreik
♔ The Realm in the Sun || De Reik in de Sonne
♔ Led by Kaiser Johann, Part of the Erstwelt
Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.

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Postby Danceria » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:16 pm

Rusthenia wrote:
Frievolk wrote:As the poorly credentialed Instructor began droning about Edward Sa'id, Homayun rolled his eyes. 'Not Sa'id's retarded beliefs about colonialism again' he thought, though attempted to look like he was listening and paying attention. He could wait for the day to reach its end.


Muhammad Ali Dzhambek would sit down next to Homayun

Due to law of plot convenience, Sulieman was next to Dzhambek, and would whisper. "I'm afraid I have never heard of this man before today..." he would confess. "Have you?"
One true Patron Saint of Sinners and Satire
It is my sole purpose in life to offend you and get you to think about your convictions due to this
“You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” - Sir Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Obligatory Quotes below
“Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind; and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.” - William Shakespeare.

“Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.” - Mark Twain

“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection.” - Thomas Paine
-{(~CO-FOUNDER OF NS AXIS POWERS~)}-

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Postby Rusthenia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:19 pm

Danceria wrote:
Rusthenia wrote:
Muhammad Ali Dzhambek would sit down next to Homayun

Due to law of plot convenience, Sulieman was next to Dzhambek, and would whisper. "I'm afraid I have never heard of this man before today..." he would confess. "Have you?"


Dzhambek would whisper back "No, why did you think I asked if somebody else would knew his theories."
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Postby Danceria » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:22 pm

Rusthenia wrote:
Danceria wrote:Due to law of plot convenience, Sulieman was next to Dzhambek, and would whisper. "I'm afraid I have never heard of this man before today..." he would confess. "Have you?"


Dzhambek would whisper back "No, why did you think I asked if somebody else would knew his theories."

"Wasn't sure that was rhetorical." Sully would mutter. "If you already knew enough about him..."
One true Patron Saint of Sinners and Satire
It is my sole purpose in life to offend you and get you to think about your convictions due to this
“You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” - Sir Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Obligatory Quotes below
“Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind; and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.” - William Shakespeare.

“Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.” - Mark Twain

“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection.” - Thomas Paine
-{(~CO-FOUNDER OF NS AXIS POWERS~)}-

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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:27 pm

"Edward Sa'id was an Arab Christian who wrote widely on how the western apparatuses of colonialism and even of academia sometimes view the east. "
the teacher said


"He wrote
Orientalism, The Question of Palestine and
Covering Islam"
she continued.
Mostly represents my views but what I think a Middle Eastern nation should do which will be sometimes different to what I think a western nation should do(because the people have different needs in different places)

Vote Lisa Nandy

Copy this into your sig if you know sex and gender are different and did not fail biology.

RIP grandpa kitchen

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Postby Danceria » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:29 pm

Saranidia wrote:"Edward Sa'id was an Arab Christian who wrote widely on how the western apparatuses of colonialism and even of academia sometimes view the east. "
the teacher said


"He wrote
Orientalism, The Question of Palestine and
Covering Islam"
she continued.

Writing these titles down, he raised his hand. "Are these simply critiques on any stereotypes the West may have on the Middle East?"
One true Patron Saint of Sinners and Satire
It is my sole purpose in life to offend you and get you to think about your convictions due to this
“You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” - Sir Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Obligatory Quotes below
“Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind; and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.” - William Shakespeare.

“Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.” - Mark Twain

“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection.” - Thomas Paine
-{(~CO-FOUNDER OF NS AXIS POWERS~)}-

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Postby Saranidia » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:38 pm

Danceria wrote:
Saranidia wrote:"Edward Sa'id was an Arab Christian who wrote widely on how the western apparatuses of colonialism and even of academia sometimes view the east. "
the teacher said


"He wrote
Orientalism, The Question of Palestine and
Covering Islam"
she continued.

Writing these titles down, he raised his hand. "Are these simply critiques on any stereotypes the West may have on the Middle East?"


"Yes they are."says the teacher
Mostly represents my views but what I think a Middle Eastern nation should do which will be sometimes different to what I think a western nation should do(because the people have different needs in different places)

Vote Lisa Nandy

Copy this into your sig if you know sex and gender are different and did not fail biology.

RIP grandpa kitchen

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