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The Scramble for Antaros [OOC, Semi-Closed, MT]

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]
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The Scramble for Antaros [OOC, Semi-Closed, MT]

Postby Antaros » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:54 pm


Whenever someone hears the name "Antaros" (/ænˈtɑːroʊz/ or an-TAR-ose), they would simply think of it as two islands home to a few million people. When the same person visits Antaros, they would quickly find more than a few million citizens.

Large rainforests rule the interiors of the peaceful islands. Countless species, from joyous birds to mighty bears to free-flowing fish, frolic in the mostly-undisturbed ecosystems of Antaros. The country is also home to a stable economy cautious on its environmental impacts, and a national government firmly committed to the welfare of citizens. Present-day Antaros is an unparalleled wonder originating from a combination of successful environmental conservation, well-funded education, universal health care, powerful infrastructure and generous social safety nets. The generally-compassionate attitudes of the citizenry also add to the beauty of the nation that is Antaros.

The vibrant nature of Antaros makes it attractive to many people from beyond its borders. But for a few people, resources below this vibrant nature truly interest them. Beneath the surface of the Antaran forests and soils lie vast deposits of uranium and rare earth minerals, both of which would be an asset to Antaros if they are heavily exploited. The democratic national government and the Antaran people believes, however, that their environment should never be destroyed in the name of unprecedented economic prosperity.

While it's certain that some would like to get at the uranium and rare earth deposits of Antaros, the question remains about how far they would act on their interests...

Premise
The basic premise of this RP involves great underground resources of Antaros, specifically uranium and rare earth oxides/minerals. Government estimates predict that the Antaran rainforests conceal at least 20 millions of tons of uranium, as well as at least 15 million tons of rare earth minerals (a bit like Minamitori Island), though it is certainly possible that the amount of both resources could be much higher. Too bad that, in the way, there's a highly-protective government, strong environmental legislation and a mostly eco-friendly populace.

Sides
Of course, some nations won't have the same attitudes as the Antarans, so I imagine that there would be two major sides involved.
  • Invaders: At least one nation would invade Antaros to get to the uranium and rare earth minerals. It may be fun for this invading nation to deal with the Antaran populace and other sympathetic countries, but it may get even more fun if there is another country (or more countries) with the same idea of invading Antaros.
  • Defenders: Some nations may want to liberate Antaros or prevent its capture. Maybe they want to exploit its resources after some diplomatic agreements, or maybe they genuinely want to make sure a democratic country remains a free country.
Not all participants have to play strictly as invaders or defenders. For example, a few nations interested in defending Antaros are certainly allowed to have ulterior motives (e.g. obtaining the uranium/rare earth minerals as a reward for helping counter the invaders). Other nations could play roles not already mentioned (e.g. seeking neutrality and peaceful resolutions, if they're possible).

General Notes
Some things should also be noted:
  • Antaros is a modern-tech (MT) country, but very light PMT elements can be accepted.
  • Antaros heavily prioritizes social welfare and is highly-pacifist. so it has no significant armed forces. Any invading force should find serious resistance with only the National Guard, law enforcement agencies and potentially-rebellious citizens.
  • Which leads to another point: while this RP would involve military elements, I have to admit that I myself am not particularly experienced (or at least an expert) in roleplaying military confrontations. Therefore, I will grant any interested invaders a good deal of leeway in how they deal with Antaros militarily (as long as nothing outright ridiculous happens). I myself would handle diplomatic elements and potential requests to the international community for assistance.
  • Make sure to follow NS forum rules as always, and respect roleplaying conventions as much as possible (e.g. avoid godmodding or metagaming).
  • When in doubt about something, don't hesitate to check with me.
RP Notes
As the RP gets underway, here are a few things to take note of:
  • Anyone interested in defending Antaros is recommended to hold off from intervening until invading nations have a good foothold in Antaros (i.e. until they have taken most/all of Antaros and have done what they intend to do in the Antaran islands).
  • If anyone is interested in getting uranium/rare earth minerals as a reward for defense, they would have to go through negotiations once the war is over. The difficulty of negotiations will depend on who is presiding; President Joseph Gordons would make it a pain in the neck to negotiate while anyone who takes his place (if Gordons is dead) may be more lenient.
  • NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Radiological weapons are also not allowed. However, biological and chemical weapons are allowed as they are used within reasonable limits; they are much more effective against civilian populations than military forces.
If the scramble for Antaros sounds interesting, by all means let me know!



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Postby Crysuko » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:20 pm

i'd be interested in this, likely to be a defender. and if things get bad enough, we could always offer they become a protectorate...
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Postby Antaros » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:22 pm

Crysuko wrote:i'd be interested in this, likely to be a defender. and if things get bad enough, we could always offer they become a protectorate...

Interesting. It’s likely the Antaran government/representatives would object to the proposal initially, but they won’t have much choice later on.
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Postby Antaros » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:20 am

The Antaran president speeds on his roller skates and accidentally makes a bump with a wall.
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Postby Atlantian Dominions » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:32 am

I’d like to register my interest as an invader. The Atlantian political system is wrapped around the thumb of corporate interests pretty tightly and very reactionary and conservative. Perhaps after a proposed deal for extraction rights is shot down by the Antaran government, the corporations persuade the Atlantian government to invade, under the guise of liberating the Antaran people from their “communist” government?
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Postby Antaros » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:09 pm

Atlantian Dominions wrote:I’d like to register my interest as an invader. The Atlantian political system is wrapped around the thumb of corporate interests pretty tightly and very reactionary and conservative. Perhaps after a proposed deal for extraction rights is shot down by the Antaran government, the corporations persuade the Atlantian government to invade, under the guise of liberating the Antaran people from their “communist” government?

Yes, what you suggest (both the proposed deal and casus belli) definitely works.

The Antaran government is mostly led by environmentally-friendly left-wing leaders, and they would be quick to reject any attempts or proposals by pretty much anyone to extract uranium/rare earth minerals.
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Postby Atlantian Dominions » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:40 pm

Antaros wrote:Yes, what you suggest (both the proposed deal and casus belli) definitely works.

The Antaran government is mostly led by environmentally-friendly left-wing leaders, and they would be quick to reject any attempts or proposals by pretty much anyone to extract uranium/rare earth minerals.

Excellent. My nation's corporations are pretty corrupt. I imagine that will further inflame Antaran resentment when they start trying to bribe their way to a deal. Then they can use yellow journalism to say the Antaran government is a bunch of eco-extremist commies to get the public onboard for intervention.
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:23 pm

Atlantian Dominions wrote:
Antaros wrote:Yes, what you suggest (both the proposed deal and casus belli) definitely works.

The Antaran government is mostly led by environmentally-friendly left-wing leaders, and they would be quick to reject any attempts or proposals by pretty much anyone to extract uranium/rare earth minerals.

Excellent. My nation's corporations are pretty corrupt. I imagine that will further inflame Antaran resentment when they start trying to bribe their way to a deal. Then they can use yellow journalism to say the Antaran government is a bunch of eco-extremist commies to get the public onboard for intervention.

a brawl is surely brewing
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Postby Antaros » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:00 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Atlantian Dominions wrote:Excellent. My nation's corporations are pretty corrupt. I imagine that will further inflame Antaran resentment when they start trying to bribe their way to a deal. Then they can use yellow journalism to say the Antaran government is a bunch of eco-extremist commies to get the public onboard for intervention.

a brawl is surely brewing

Indeed

Also, the Antaran government would be very much aware of how the country doesn’t really have a proper armed forces. It should be expected then that they would have a special system to request international intervention in the event of war or a major national emergency. (I’ll have it so that any emergency requests wouldn’t get out until after most of Antaros has fallen, though the invader probably wouldn’t make it easy for the Antaran government)
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Postby Tekistion » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:02 pm

Definitely would be interested in this as a defender, mostly for political reasons (Tekistion is becoming more and more isolated on the world stage and needs connections). Trade is not out of the question, though - after all, surely we should get something in return for helping the island folk fight off the invader...?
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Postby Antaros » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:33 pm

Tekistion wrote:Definitely would be interested in this as a defender, mostly for political reasons (Tekistion is becoming more and more isolated on the world stage and needs connections). Trade is not out of the question, though - after all, surely we should get something in return for helping the island folk fight off the invader...?

Antwros would most likely be able to trade various green technologies (e.g. solar panel, energy-efficient appliances) and certain manufactured products (e.g. computers, vehicles). Also, crops and fish can be exported to an extent. I imagine that in addition, Antarans can agree to an extensive scientific research agreement and cultural exchange agreement.
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:40 pm

Antaros wrote:
Tekistion wrote:Definitely would be interested in this as a defender, mostly for political reasons (Tekistion is becoming more and more isolated on the world stage and needs connections). Trade is not out of the question, though - after all, surely we should get something in return for helping the island folk fight off the invader...?

Antwros would most likely be able to trade various green technologies (e.g. solar panel, energy-efficient appliances) and certain manufactured products (e.g. computers, vehicles). Also, crops and fish can be exported to an extent. I imagine that in addition, Antarans can agree to an extensive scientific research agreement and cultural exchange agreement.

the crysukon army normally operates incendiary weapons, but if a war were to be fought on Antaros, we will refrain.
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
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Postby Trioad » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:01 pm

I would be interested to play as a defender.

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Postby Antaros » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:32 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Antaros wrote:Antwros would most likely be able to trade various green technologies (e.g. solar panel, energy-efficient appliances) and certain manufactured products (e.g. computers, vehicles). Also, crops and fish can be exported to an extent. I imagine that in addition, Antarans can agree to an extensive scientific research agreement and cultural exchange agreement.

the crysukon army normally operates incendiary weapons, but if a war were to be fought on Antaros, we will refrain.

Interesting to know, it’ll be true that Antaros wouldn’t be the best to use incendiary weapons.
Trioad wrote:I would be interested to play as a defender.

Glad to see you’re interested.

I should be able to start the RP in the next few days. Perhaps it would start with the Antaran president affirming his opposition to exploiting uranium/rare earth mineral deposits, as well as his commitment to protecting the Antaran environment.
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:55 pm

well i'm always up to fight some corporations. The first Crysukon civil war was fought on that premise, so we have a historical precedent for it.
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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby The Hoosier Alliance » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:49 pm

I might be interested in playing as an invader. The Alliance would, publicly, be there to "fight the evils of communism/socialism" but be there for that reason, as well as to loot the wealth of the nation. Corporations have a large say in the military dictatorship and civil unrest in the nation would (hopefully) be lessened by the people supporting a foreign war against a "threat" to Hoosiers. From your description, your nation sounds pretty socialist. Is that true? If it's not, it wouldn't really matter to the government of the Alliance, they'll spin it however they want anyway to further their goals.
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:06 pm

The Hoosier Alliance wrote:I might be interested in playing as an invader. The Alliance would, publicly, be there to "fight the evils of communism/socialism" but be there for that reason, as well as to loot the wealth of the nation. Corporations have a large say in the military dictatorship and civil unrest in the nation would (hopefully) be lessened by the people supporting a foreign war against a "threat" to Hoosiers. From your description, your nation sounds pretty socialist. Is that true? If it's not, it wouldn't really matter to the government of the Alliance, they'll spin it however they want anyway to further their goals.

It's 3 levels of on, now. Do we have enough players?
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Antaros » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:16 pm

Crysuko wrote:
The Hoosier Alliance wrote:I might be interested in playing as an invader. The Alliance would, publicly, be there to "fight the evils of communism/socialism" but be there for that reason, as well as to loot the wealth of the nation. Corporations have a large say in the military dictatorship and civil unrest in the nation would (hopefully) be lessened by the people supporting a foreign war against a "threat" to Hoosiers. From your description, your nation sounds pretty socialist. Is that true? If it's not, it wouldn't really matter to the government of the Alliance, they'll spin it however they want anyway to further their goals.

It's 3 levels of on, now. Do we have enough players?

Yes it’s enough players interested. More players would be welcome to join but I believe we have the minimum necessary for an RP. I’ll set an RP up in the next few days.

The Hoosier Alliance wrote:I might be interested in playing as an invader. The Alliance would, publicly, be there to "fight the evils of communism/socialism" but be there for that reason, as well as to loot the wealth of the nation. Corporations have a large say in the military dictatorship and civil unrest in the nation would (hopefully) be lessened by the people supporting a foreign war against a "threat" to Hoosiers. From your description, your nation sounds pretty socialist. Is that true? If it's not, it wouldn't really matter to the government of the Alliance, they'll spin it however they want anyway to further their goals.

I haven’t thought of Antaros as an outright socialist nation, as it does respect private ownership and certain capitalist and free-market principles. However it would be quite easy and reasonable to label Antaros as a socialist country given its quasi-nanny state national government.

Also, given that Atlantian Dominions is also interested in invading, it would be interesting to see how two invaders would deal with each other.
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Postby Antaros » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:44 pm

The IC thread is up!

The post isn't particularly spectacular but should set some background up for the RP.
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Antaros wrote:The IC thread is up!

The post isn't particularly spectacular but should set some background up for the RP.

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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby Misthas » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:04 pm

I would quite like to play as a defender that defends peace and communism and whatnot, but at some point may stab you in the back.
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Postby Antaros » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:53 pm

Misthas wrote:I would quite like to play as a defender that defends peace and communism and whatnot, but at some point may stab you in the back.

That's intriguing.

It's also important for me to emphasize that while I defined the invader side and defender side in the OP, people are certainly welcome to be involved without taking part solely in either invasion or defense (e.g. backstab Antaros later like you suggest, be neutral and try to negotiate peace).
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Postby Dolomites » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:58 am

I'd be interested in playing as a defender, who attempts to get Antaros to repay "the damage taken by us while defending it" with the rare earth metals.
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Postby Trioad » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:28 pm

Antaros wrote:
Misthas wrote:I would quite like to play as a defender that defends peace and communism and whatnot, but at some point may stab you in the back.

That's intriguing.

It's also important for me to emphasize that while I defined the invader side and defender side in the OP, people are certainly welcome to be involved without taking part solely in either invasion or defense (e.g. backstab Antaros later like you suggest, be neutral and try to negotiate peace).

Trioad is a nation more fond of diplomacy hen warfare, so I will start off as more of a neutral humanitarian party then ramp into full out warfare. I am hyped for his RP

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Postby Crysuko » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:38 pm

interesting how everyone seems to have an ulterior motive
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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