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How to OP Your Thread Effectively [Guide-ish]

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:06 am
by The Macabees
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Running and leading a roleplay thread is hard. You have to:

  • Attract active players
  • Help new players enter the thread constructively
  • Regulate contributions
  • Help other players stay up-to-date
  • Facilitate OOC communication
  • Keep the story interesting
And a lot more.

Your exact workload might look a little different, but whatever it looks like, OPing is definitely work and it requires skill.

Luckily, this skill is completely learnable and, better yet, it manifests itself in various ways. There is always room to do things your own way and still succeed. The following is based on my own experiencing OPing threads like A Passion Play, Titanomachy, and Imperial Recrudescence. I’ve developed a ‘way of doing things’, a general framework, based on my successes and failures in those threads, and on what I’ve learned from them. It’s also led me to implement some relatively “unconventional [uncommon] ideas” for NS RP — like dice rolling — that have, so far, brought me interesting and positive results.

I'd like to share these experiences with you.

There are many ways of doing things. If you prefer your own methods, more power to you. There are many good OPers on NationStates, all with their own techniques.


WHAT DOES "OP" MEAN?


OPENING POST[ER]:

More traditionally known as 'Game Moderator' (GM), otherwise 'Dungeon Master' (DM). On NationStates, for private roleplay threads typically the player who published the opening post is acting OP, thus the term. This person is responsible for building the world and guiding other players through a narrative, providing arbitration for the players' decision-making moments along the way. An OP is usually considered to have final say on the direction of the thread and on independent disputes, although an OP may choose to distribute decision-making powers as necessary. It is the mark of a good OP to allow enough flexibility in the narrative for players to shape it through their decisions. OP powers are less absolute in community threads, where thread ownership is more ambiguous, and they may not exist at all.



THE CONSTITUTION

In The Calculus of Consent, economist James Buchanan presents a model of democracy in which it faces two fundamental problems:

  • The less people who are included in the decision-making process, the greater the external costs of democracy. That is, for example, the more laws that are imposed without the implicit consent of the governed.
  • The more people who are included in the decision-making process, the more costly that decision is to make because the more difficult it is to gain consensus.

He says there is a way to resolve this paradox: a constitution.

How can we approximate a voluntary government via democratic institutions if, apparently, the more democratic our government is the less effective it becomes? Simple, says, Buchanan. A society realizes the conundrum and come to terms with the fact that they not all may be able to directly participate. It accepts that democracy will not be able to internalize all costs, there are no corner solutions (as an economist would say). There are external costs to all governments, though, and democracies tend to follow authoritarian governments for a reason. Even if not all decisions in a democracy are fully voluntary, in the sense that someone is facing an external cost because of them, the process itself can be agreed on by consensus. The constitution, then, serves to define these meta-rules that guide and constrain a representative democracy. As long as society supports the meta-rules, the constitution, the lower-level democratic decisions are legitimate.

How does this apply to OPing?

In a roleplay, generally speaking, “OP is God.” It’s true that in reality that ‘rule’ can be gray, in that some OPs are more meta-democratic than others. In fact, it’s more complicated than that, because OPs can be more meta-democratic in certain domains and less-so in others. Regardless, the phrase “OP is God” exists and is widely cited for a reason. At the end of the day, if that’s the way the OP wants to swing, that’s the OP’s right.

Not all autocratic OPs result in large externalized costs. For example, if the OP’s decisions all run pretty standard to the rest of the players’ opinions, then there won’t be much cause for disagreement. All the same, some externalized costs are inevitable. The greater the external costs the OP’s decisions, the less other players are going to want to let you OP the threads they invest their time in.

At the same time, there’s a reason why it’s traditional for there to be an OP — to lower decision-making costs. A single OP is often a more effective, and a faster, arbitration system than a democracy.

Neither are there corner solutions. No system of arbitration is going to be perfect.

Are all roleplays therefore condemned to disputes?

Not if there is a constitution.

A constitution, a framework of meta-rules that constrain and guide the OP, can help to distribute the externalized costs of OPing in a way that is agreed to by consensus. That is why D&D has core rulebooks, for example. That way the OP can’t invent random damage for weapons, or punish some players in favor of others by manipulating these weapon stats. On NS, we don’t even have this core rulebooks. We have no idea how much damage our tanks do, except the values that we assign to them ourselves. That’s why so many players opted for “hard MT” after “NS MT” went haywire.

During the height of “NS MT”, disparate and opposed OOC objectives reduced the incentive for consensus on even as basic as issues as weapon damage. These differences in OOC visions were not resolved in a meaningful sense in large part because the fundamental rule of voluntary association was not observed. It was common to bully players in OOC conversations into accepting narrative decisions, and it made the victims unhappy and more likely to revolt. Bad blood emerged in other ways, including between leaders of different communities, sacrificing communication and collaboration. A manifestation of this bad blood was the sequence of permabans suffered by many well-known and widely respected players; players who let a situation get out of control and paid the ultimate price for it. A revolt did finally happen. “Hard MT” represents some of the fruits of that revolt. The fracturing of II and the creation of closed worlds, even among RPers who had previously operated in an open world environment, is another result of that revolt. It was a widespread campaign of disassociation caused by a situation that was allowed to blow-up, rather than handled in a constructive way from the get-go.

OPers can create their own meta-(core) rules and that way give players expectations as to the standards that are being followed, so they can trust in the safety of the time and labor they’re going to invest in your thread. This helps address the issues that cause revolts, retcons, and other OOC issues that can completely derail your thread and even hurt the roleplaying community as a whole.

How exactly are these constitution voluntary? It comes back to voluntary association.

Again, there are many, many philosophies and approaches. A group of players could agree to a set of meta-rules, and in fact many communities do this. There are regions that have set up institutions that legislate these roleplaying meta-rules into a living constitutional document. There are players who do it on a more limited, even thread-by-thread scope. There’s nothing wrong with any of the positions along the spectrum, it’s subjective and a function of your goals as an RPer and writer. I am very often authoritarian on some issues, less so on others.

As long as there are meta-rules, no matter who decided them, all active, relevant players implicitly support them.

How can this be?

In 1956, economist Charles Tiebout published “A Pure Theory of Local Expenditures,” and in it he developed a model of competition and change between governments. Suppose there are Governments A and B, the externalized costs of A being greater than those of B. If there is freedom of movement, people under Government A will vote with their feet and migrate to Government B, therefore weakening Government A’s tax revenues and forcing them to adjust policy to attract more citizens to increase tax revenues.

NationStates roleplay is built on the principle of voluntary association.

As long as there is voluntary association, any meta-rule framework is legitimate. The question simply is which meta-rule framework is most likely to attract other players. The OP is constrained by their inability to force participants to accept their decisions. These participants can simply leave if they don’t like it.

Your goal as OP should be to find a set of meta-rules that fulfills your goals as a writer in a way that is agreeable to people. Enough people, at least, that you can fulfill your goals as a cooperative storyteller (even if you are “competing,” you are cooperating at a higher-level sense — there are meta-rules). How do you find the right balance? Trial and error, you must do it through experience.

By the way, more often than not, meta-rules will be informal. In Law, Legislation, and Liberty, economist Friedrich Hayek wrote that formal rules and laws always follow only when the informal rule is understood well enough to formalize. Meaning, most of the rules and laws we follow were at some point already in place, just in a less formal way. It’s the same principle behind, for example, language. Most of us learn the rules of our language informally, not formally. This is shown by the number of English-speakers who can speak and write, but don’t know the formal rules of grammar.


THE ROLE OF DICE (& ALTERNATIVES)

In the lower-level decision-making process, I often prefer the more competitive approach. Every roleplay, of course, is different.

Titanomachy is less competitive because we preferred to focus on different elements of the war without having to worry about the military aspect. Scandinvans could write on his world, introduce it to a wider audience, and talk about the socio-political transformation of his society and government as a result of the invasion. I wanted to focus more on the effects of the war on my own soldiers and how they coped with it, and the effects of the war on the society of my world. It was simply a question of focus. As a consequence, the meta-rules are more strict against relatively competitive roleplayers who don’t agree to the vision behind the meta-rules.

By way of comparison, The Thin Blade is more competitive, with more focus on the combat and the outcomes at each individual step of the battle. I decided to experiment with a very, very primitive dice system. There are no damage stats or anything like that, so I consolidated it to one roll per decision. I then discussed with Potthan the different possible outcomes and we agreed to a general distribution of probabilities.

For example, a soldier fires at an enemy, the bullet(s) can either miss (30%), hit and kill (20%), hit and critically maim (20%), or hit and lightly wound (30%). The numbers are completely random, it’s just an example.

We decide on an appropriate dice. D10 is nice because the fractions are easy. Different probabilities will require different dice (you can’t do 33% with a d10, you’d need a d12). Let’s go with a d10 for this example. Now we match our probability distribution to specific ranges of dice roll outcomes. 1-3 for example can be a miss, 4-5 hit and kill, 6-7 maim, and 8-10 lightly wound. You roll and wherever it lands is what happens. You can even mix it up and give the other players some power over the roll. For example, you could ask them “high or low,” where high corresponds to the above ranges and low corresponds to 10-8, 7-6, 5-4, and 3-1 respectively.

I’m sure there are other ways to do this. Better ways, even.

Regardless, what I found is that there was an incredibly refreshing increase in randomness, challenge, and surprise. It helped keep the story interesting. In the first encounter, I rolled whether the first vehicle of my convoy sets up an IED. It doesn’t. But neither does anybody notice any possible hint of it. I roll for the second vehicle and it’s hit. It starts a battle that I never planned on fighting, totally changing the trajectory of the RP right at the very start. It was a very cool experience and one that has persuaded me to try and use this method in other threads.


DEALING WITH META-RULE BREAKERS

Some people aren’t going to get it. Sometimes people are going to be angry with a decision and they might deal with it in the wrong way.

I must again add the caveat that there are different approaches.

I have always found more success in severing the problem quickly. There’s a tipping point between a healthy debate and an argument with little chance of a positive outcome. That point is typically where the debate is at an impassé because the OP, or the other player, won’t budge. You start seeing things like quote trees, as players write line-by-line rebuttals. An RP might be able to survive this, but at some point the OP needs to make a judgment call because these types of arguments can end up derailing the entire thread and discredit both sides. It’s the point where there’s a risk of bad blood.

For the sake of personal health, I am an advocate of avoiding these types of situations entirely, so I endeavor to end them as quickly as possible. It’s not about fairness, it’s about our emotional wellbeing. Sometimes I do this less successfully than others, but the process should approach a standard.

This includes disputes against an OP.

If you find yourself to be unhappy in an RP I firmly believe that you are under no obligation to continue it or to accept any consequences to your canon. I agree that it can suck fo the other parties involved. I myself would dislike it, but we all dislike it when things don’t work out. Ultimately, a player’s canon belongs to the player. If that person’s decisions make you unhappy, I recommend not associating with the player or associating on a more limited scale. It’s not because this is a fair or ethical system, it’s because it’s better for your mental health. A game shouldn’t make you feel mad, so if elements of it do then cut them out.

It’s the same principle that guides many RPers attitude toward gameplay (GP) ), because GP’s war system can lead to outcomes that RPers dislike (their region being invaded and overtaken, the RMB tagged and members booted — all externalized costs under a meta-rule framework that they don’t consent to). This isn’t meant as a judgment on GP, which I personally enjoy quite a bit, just an explanation for a common behavioral pattern. It’s why regional passwords exist, to allow some communities to completely disassociate themselves from others except those of their own choosing.

When I say “sever” the problem, I say it as a rule of thumb.

Everything in life is obviously within the gray. Very, very few things, if anything, are black and white. There’s virtue in flexibility.

Regardless, I rather have only a little sour rather than a whole lot of sour.

As a side note, I absolutely oppose all forms of bullying. It doesn’t matter if the reasons for it are good, bad, or neither. Players ought to respect each other, and if you lose that respect for someone the best thing to do is disengage. If someone isn’t RPing to your liking and they aren’t receptive to constructive criticism, and you simply can’t operate under these conditions, the last thing you should do is gather up your clique and cajole the target player into a favorable decision. Just set your terms and, if they’re not met, disengage.


FACILITATING OOC COMMUNICATION

I’ve found that staying in communication is vital for the success of my RPs. By doing so, I make sure everyone is on the same page, there are no unwanted surprises, and that everyone feels good about the RP. I also communicate the meta-rule framework, sometimes aggressively, to make sure all players know to operate under it. Finally, I can help players who are struggling, even players who are unhappy, and find agreeable compromises in the decision-making.

For me, communication must go both ways. The player must show interest in knowing the meta-rules, which in my case includes an interest in the world and in learning the world’s “public knowledge.” It’s a sign of respect, and maturity as a roleplayer, when I am approached with questions on the world that defines my roleplays because it shows that the player is genuinely interested in contributing to it versus disrupting it. This action oftentimes is what makes the difference in taking part in my threads and not. Likewise, it should be expected of me to do the same when I am not the OP, and generally-speaking I do exactly that. In Morrdh’s The Frontier I put in a lot of effort asking him questions to learn about the world and how my characters should operate in it, because ultimately I am contributing to his canon. Not shaping it, not determining it, just contributing to it, and it’s his decision what effects those contributions have.

This is true no matter where on the competitive-cooperative spectrum the thread is at.

Anyway, let’s focus on the types of communication an OP should have with involved players.

I put a lot of emphasis on making sure players are happy. This doesn’t mean I do whatever it takes to make them happy, only that I know their status and we can resolve issues before they blow up — these resolutions include “this RP is not right for you.” But they also may include compromises that can improve the RP. For example, in Titanomachy I put a lot of effort into working with Scand’s OOC goals for his canon as a writer and worldbuilder. My goal isn’t to disrupt his plans, just to contribute to them. The same is true the other way around. Scand and I, despite RPing a war and being IC enemies, get along very well OOCly. Communication is the largest part of positive rapport because it allows us to be constantly aware of what the other player is feeling.

As OP, I also tend to act like the coach of a team. Communication between players is important too and not always there. I find ways of fomenting it, including creating common chat channels or even acting as a medium between them. Through these methods I’ve managed, sometimes resolving, sometimes not, conflicts between players who believe themselves to be diametrically opposed OOCly. Communication is the artery of resolution, so if players in an RP aren’t communicating then the OP should have ways of relieving the situation. An OP should be a communication evangelist. It’s why I can be aggressive with communicating the meta-rules, which mine include stipulations on willingness to communicate.

Coaching goes beyond communication of problems. As human beings with different goals and means, we are experts in different things. Not all of us know about military history, tactics, strategy, and armaments. Not all of us know about economics, politics, or whatever it may be that you are an expert in. Some players use this knowledge disparity as a way of gaining an advantage. I’m not here to label any approach as “wrong.” However, I am partisan to the idea that collaborative writing should be used as an opportunity to help others in areas where they are weaker. Military walkovers happen in real-life, and they happen on NS, but they shouldn’t happen because of a knowledge disparity. Military walkovers should have a purpose in the narrative. In A Wolf in the Jungle, when UWO invaded North Panooly, I helped him exploit weaknesses in my IC strategy and tactics, and I even set up an encirclement of one of my armored brigades — it helped build a more interesting, multi-dimensional narrative.

Finally, to help guide players in their IC decisions, I put a lot of effort in educating them on the status of the RP and the world around it. This links back to my previous comment on requiring other players to ask me questions, but beneath the understanding that it’s a two-way street and that much of the onus for education is on me. To some extent, this particular element of my philosophy is based on my own personal OCD. I am a very detail-oriented person and players who want to participate in my threads need to accept that, and we can build a meta-rule framework that makes this trait of mine bearable. Part of this is my own evangelism when it comes to keeping everybody on the same page.

Ultimately, all of this works to keep individual contributions to the roleplay constructive.

Whatever the merits and demerits of my approach, I’ve found that players who participate in my threads tend to come back to future threads I OP. That must mean that I’m doing something right, and I am convinced that my approach to communication is the most important element in my OPing framework.



We all have our unique twists to our approaches. This individual-by-individual change is good for us because it’s the wellspring of new ideas, change, and evolution. To get new ideas, you should work beneath those who can give them to you and that will always be other OPs.

Besides, giving back and being a good roleplayer, not just a good OPer, will help build better relationships with other players. You will get to know their canon and involve yourselves in new ways, ways that could possibly lead to a future flowering of mutual narratives. You’ll also get a better feel for how they operate and what kind of meta-rule framework they prefer, helping you build more agreeable frameworks for your own roleplays. By extension, you’ll also learn how to better communicate and how to read between the lines, providing better service as an OP.

Ultimately, being a good OP is more about your process than about your decisions at any moment in time. We all make mistakes, we all do stupid things, we all do great things. I have also seen OPs with totally opposed styles to mine do very well in that role. What matters is that we pursue experience, learn from it, and implement changes. I think that if you do what feels right, more often than not you'll be OK.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
by Coflandia
Entertaining to read and informative; very well written and well thought out/well-balanced — wouldn’t expect anything less from you!

Edit: thank you for writing this!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:30 pm
by The Macabees
Thanks Coflandia, glad you liked it.

Out of curiosity, do you have any 'key ingredients' to your OPing? I'm super interested in knowing how others have succeeded.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:54 pm
by The State of Monavia
In all of my years on this site, I have found hosting a thread much harder than entering one that someone else is hosting. Your remarks on this topic satisfy a dire need that has been around for a very long time and should help a lot of RPers who want to prove their mettle at steering grand, multilateral RP epics from their launch points to photo-finish landings. Everyone here owes you their appreciation for taking the time to write this groundbreaking RP manual and it should be linked in the new player thread if it has not been linked there yet.

The Macabees wrote:Thanks Coflandia, glad you liked it.

Out of curiosity, do you have any 'key ingredients' to your OPing? I'm super interested in knowing how others have succeeded.


Speaking from experience (including many times when I have been the guilty party), RPs of all stripes (including good, solid ones) tend to die when participants disappear or lose interest for long spans of time. RL obligations and commitments tend to be a proximate cause for these scenarios, but RPs also die when one or more major participants retcon their canon and start over with a blank slate (up to launching a new NS account altogether), quit NS entirely and never come back, or get their accounts deleted for violating rules in other sections of the forum (and are then memorialized by their fans).

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:10 am
by The Macabees
The State of Monavia wrote:Speaking from experience (including many times when I have been the guilty party), RPs of all stripes (including good, solid ones) tend to die when participants disappear or lose interest for long spans of time. RL obligations and commitments tend to be a proximate cause for these scenarios, but RPs also die when one or more major participants retcon their canon and start over with a blank slate (up to launching a new NS account altogether), quit NS entirely and never come back, or get their accounts deleted for violating rules in other sections of the forum (and are then memorialized by their fans).


How much of this do you feel comes down to choosing the right RPing partners vs. OP not maintaining that interest over time (with twists in the story, etc)?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:55 pm
by The State of Monavia
The Macabees wrote:
The State of Monavia wrote:Speaking from experience (including many times when I have been the guilty party), RPs of all stripes (including good, solid ones) tend to die when participants disappear or lose interest for long spans of time. RL obligations and commitments tend to be a proximate cause for these scenarios, but RPs also die when one or more major participants retcon their canon and start over with a blank slate (up to launching a new NS account altogether), quit NS entirely and never come back, or get their accounts deleted for violating rules in other sections of the forum (and are then memorialized by their fans).


How much of this do you feel comes down to choosing the right RPing partners vs. OP not maintaining that interest over time (with twists in the story, etc)?


In my personal experience, choosing the right RP partners is necessary for launching an RP thread off the ground since poor RP partners can strangle an RP in its crib during an OOC planning phase or initial launch phase. Poor partners (many times this means acrimonious or argumentative partners) can still sink an RP thread later, but once a thread has some momentum behind it and enough committed participants, it can often survive departures by some of the people who started it and still move along. It will not be the same thread it could have been, however.

On the other side of the equation, the task of maintaining interest is a long-term concern. The person hosting a new RP story must garner some interest in order to get a fledgling thread off the ground, but maintaining that interest and nurturing it over time are tasks that gain importance as the thread progresses forward. In other words, finding partners is analogous to planting a garden, whereas maintaining interest is analogous to watering and tending the garden once the plants are in the ground.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:59 pm
by Bruke
Question from a newbie OP: how to deal with the impact of real life?

I'm running an us election RP now, and I haven't been as active as I thought I would be.

excellent work by the way.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:19 am
by The Macabees
Bruke wrote:Question from a newbie OP: how to deal with the impact of real life?

I'm running an us election RP now, and I haven't been as active as I thought I would be.

excellent work by the way.


Thank you! :)

Regarding your question -- ah, the perennial obstacle. I totally get you and have similar issues myself; I am a notoriously slow poster.

I work full time, I do more work when I get home, and I have my own projects outside of NS.

That being said, I have certain tactics that help maintain activity. And as slow as I post, these tactics have actually helped increase my in-character contributions.

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My tactics:

  • Pace yourself. A lot of people will write in spurts because they want to be really active; they get some free time and they go ham. This pace isn't sustainable. When I'm not feeling it or when I'm super busy, I write 100-200 words a day. Sometimes I might write only a sentence or two. Slow and steady wins the race.
  • Limit the scope of your RP. Create a narrative for your thread; a narrative with a scope that you find manageable, that way it can't get away from you. Hold people who are participating to this over-arching narrative (it would form part of your meta-rules).
  • Some of my posts are really long, but the average word count YoY fell from 3,300 to 1,800, so almost by half. With shorter posts I spend less time worrying about how to fill them and more time focusing on what exactly I need to say to make the post communicate what I need in an interesting way. Dont'get me wrong, I still write long-ass posts (last month, one of my Titanomachy posts was 8,100 words long), but only for certain threads that warrant it. I've been sticking to 1,000-2,000 words. The exact number may change for you; but by worrying less about word count I can write faster and write more posts.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:23 am
by The Macabees
The State of Monavia wrote:On the other side of the equation, the task of maintaining interest is a long-term concern. The person hosting a new RP story must garner some interest in order to get a fledgling thread off the ground, but maintaining that interest and nurturing it over time are tasks that gain importance as the thread progresses forward. In other words, finding partners is analogous to planting a garden, whereas maintaining interest is analogous to watering and tending the garden once the plants are in the ground.


You make excellent points.

For other readers who may be interested, I just wanted to share a tactic that I often use to keep things interesting: I share limited OOC information on where I see the thread headed. That way players can look forward to exciting things coming up. I try to balance these revelations so that the thread doesn't become overly-scripted, but that balance is not necessarily hard to find.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:00 am
by Coflandia
Bruke wrote:Question from a newbie OP: how to deal with the impact of real life?

I'm running an us election RP now, and I haven't been as active as I thought I would be.

excellent work by the way.


Will the election RP thread be just by yourself, or will it be done with other writers/worldbuilders/storytellers? Anything election related (and anything politics/government debates/constitutional law and macroeconomics) is my forte ;)

The Macabees wrote:Thanks Coflandia, glad you liked it.

Out of curiosity, do you have any 'key ingredients' to your OPing? I'm super interested in knowing how others have succeeded.


None. OPing RP threads for other players have never been my strength in my eight years of browsing (and enjoying) NationStates. I love internally stimulated RPs and worldbuilding; sadly, not very much interested in writing with others (unless it will affect my nation significantly, or the things written by others I consider as important or interesting to participate in)

Then again, you already know me well enough to know what are my strengths and weaknesses, Mac ;)

Edit: but again, thank you so much for writing this great guide! It has been an informative read

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:56 pm
by Bruke
Coflandia wrote:
Bruke wrote:Question from a newbie OP: how to deal with the impact of real life?

I'm running an us election RP now, and I haven't been as active as I thought I would be.

excellent work by the way.


Will the election RP thread be just by yourself, or will it be done with other writers/worldbuilders/storytellers? Anything election related (and anything politics/government debates/constitutional law and macroeconomics) is my forte ;)


RP has already started, focusing on the 1956 us presidential election.