The Azadistani - Munkchester War [OOC] [MT?] [Closed]

[Sinkretichki Kombinat]

Would you care to explain how the Electronic moat works?

In addition to that, the botnets would be controlled via layers of proxies, denying easy identification of source countries, and be steadily expanding into various other nations via regular malware propagation methods. Given the NS world seems to be if not infinite, holding at least thousands of nations with perhaps trillions of devices among them, it would not be unreasonable to assume that blocking specific IPs at one point backfires or is unable to keep up.

[Neo Philippine Empire]

@L&A

Are your planes using nuclear ramjets?

[Old Beringia]

@Ausitoria

Where are your E-Wings flying? And what exactly are your F-70's? Do you have stats for either one?

Edit: And what kind of laser is it?

Edit 2: Why are you randomly shooting lasers around with your other planes nearby anyway? How are you not blinding your own pilots?

[Neo Philippine Empire]

Also at Aus.

How did IC Aus know that I'm deploying a fleet? They're still in the middle of the Indian Ocean right now and I haven't even issued an official declaration of war. If you can't explain that, I will ignore your post.

[Neo Philippine Empire]

Also at Aus.

How did IC Aus know that I'm deploying a fleet? They're still in the middle of the Indian Ocean right now and I haven't even issued an official declaration of war. If you can't explain that, I will ignore your post.

Take this in mind that if you probably leave Azadistan anyway, I have no qualms with your nation anymore.

[Rhinocera]

Azadistan, are you and your new pals attacking Ausitoria and myself? You keep referencing attacks on imperialists, so I want to be sure you haven’t decided we are imperialists and that your not attacking us. If you are, that’s fine too, but I don't see why you would.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Aresin is free to post.

Rhinocera, I think they’re referring to Beringia, but goodness knows at this point. In any event our land forces are departing with justified haste.

Beringia, am I going to have to explain optical communications?

About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position by default access which is not approved does not exist. This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to botnets.

Neo Philipines: These don’t have nuclear ramjets. And sorry, I think I missed the bit about your parliament being secret. Consider those parts of the post retconned, or maybe redirected...

Harlonia, I’m not about to get into an argument about what a mod has said. Ask the mod if you must.

How are luring your crocodile, and why are you saying 200 km, and are you just trolling for trouble?

[Old Beringia]

@Ausitoria

Where are your E-Wings flying? And what exactly are your F-70's? Do you have stats for either one?

Edit: And what kind of laser is it?

Edit 2: Why are you randomly shooting lasers around with your other planes nearby anyway? How are you not blinding your own pilots?

I'll restate my questions seeing as you’ve responded to one I didn't ask

[Sinkretichki Kombinat]

About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position by default access which is not approved does not exist. This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to botnets.

Apologies for my ignorance but I'd like further explanation to how this works given searching any of these keywords has failed to yield anything useful or informative.

[Allanea]

I am now going to be participating in a mild fashion, primarily against Munkchester.

For this purpose, limited financial and military assistance will be sent to Azadistan and associates.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Good to see you here! May the slaver tremble, the only good slaver is a dead slaver, and all that.

Beringia, the only question I didn‘t provide with some sort of answer was whether I had any stats. The F-70 is in Halcyon arms.

Munkcester, what forces do you think you’ve sent to Munkcester-‘occupied’ Azadistan, and have they surrendered yet?

About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position by default access which is not approved does not exist. This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to botnets.

Apologies for my ignorance but I'd like further explanation to how this works given searching any of these keywords has failed to yield anything useful or informative.

Which words do you need explained?

[Sinkretichki Kombinat]

Good to see you here! May the slaver tremble, the only good slaver is a dead slaver, and all that.

Beringia, the only question I didn‘t provide with some sort of answer was whether I had any stats. The F-70 is in Halcyon arms.

Munkcester, what forces do you think you’ve sent to Munkcester-‘occupied’ Azadistan, and have they surrendered yet?

Apologies for my ignorance but I'd like further explanation to how this works given searching any of these keywords has failed to yield anything useful or informative.

Which words do you need explained?

the whole thing, I guess? the way that sentence parsed up wasn't really understandable at least to me.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I haven’t time to help you there, sorry.

On another matter, which I hate to bring up, you’re going to need a statement from Cuscy that his nation and weapons exist in the same canon as Ausitoria. Unless he’s changed his mind, I think he thinks our canons are seperate. (That’s not the case in my canon, but everyone has a right to police their own canon, and will have my assistance whether they want it or not).

I have full permission from Cuscy to use them and that is all that matters so far.

No it isn’t. My statement still applies, sorry.

Beringia, sorry, the same will apply for your commerce raider. Also, which shipping lane?

[Sinkretichki Kombinat]

"the position by default access which is not approved does not exist"

This is hard to decipher, but in this scheme do you "approve" network traffic and unapproved requests simply fail to connect?

[Neo Philippine Empire]

About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position by default access which is not approved does not exist. This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to botnets.

Also, explain how this works.

[Zargehestan]

About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position by default access which is not approved does not exist. This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to botnets.

I'm sorry, but to me, this sentence is completely illegible right. What do you mean by this?

Does the Commonwealth not have worldwide internet? If so, shouldn't your economy be taking a toll? Now, as for Cuscy, How about I don't need anything? And if you continue to use OOC to shield yourself from taking losses, I am officially going to report you to Azadistan for godmodding and request you be booted from this thread.

[Rhinocera]

I am now going to be participating in a mild fashion, primarily against Munkchester.

For this purpose, limited financial and military assistance will be sent to Azadistan and associates.

I’d sit this one out or deal with Munkchester yourself, working with Azadistan isn’t a viable option.

Aresin is free to post.

Rhinocera, I think they’re referring to Beringia, but goodness knows at this point. In any event our land forces are departing with justified haste.

Beringia, am I going to have to explain optical communications?

About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position by default access which is not approved does not exist. This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to botnets.

Neo Philipines: These don’t have nuclear ramjets. And sorry, I think I missed the bit about your parliament being secret. Consider those parts of the post retconned, or maybe redirected...

Harlonia, I’m not about to get into an argument about what a mod has said. Ask the mod if you must.

How are luring your crocodile, and why are you saying 200 km, and are you just trolling for trouble?

When you pull your forces drop my airborne off at Rhinocera please, I’m not sticking around to help these fellas if your not.

[South Harlonia]

Harlonia, I’m not about to get into an argument about what a mod has said. Ask the mod if you must.

No need to get into an arguement because the mod said this:
"Because I have been asked to help settle the Azadistan dispute, as it relates to L&A attempting to "control" Azadistan...

A player (Nation A) cannot take control of another player's (Nation B) military or other forces without the consent of Nation B. If Nation A were to do so, it would constitute godmodding. The simplest way to end the dispute is to ask Azadistan if they conducted the attack or not. If Azadistan did conduct the attack, then it would be up to Azadistan if they want to continue with the attack, or to retcon it, without any form of coercion.

There have also been questions addressed to me about if L&A has taken over Azadistan's account. While such an action would not be actionable by itself, it is *highly* frowned upon by moderation, as everyone who uses the shared nation can be punished for rule-breaking behavior performed via that account.

If there are further questions, or if someone spots any rule violations, please report such to the Moderation sub-form.

And finally... iModLoom."
Looks like you dont get to control Azadistans actions just to make it easier for you

How are luring your crocodile,

Its not a crocodile, its a separate branch of archosaur that exists in the NS world. I just said it was closer to a crocodilian or theropod than to a squamate lizard because people were calling it a lizard that doesn't mean it IS a crocodilian or theropod, just in the same clade of reptiles as those two examples.

They are luring it with a special acoustic noise.
Duh.

and why are you saying 200 km

It didn't start the attack run at 200km, it would have finished the attack run (and re-submerged with just a massive tidal wave in its wake) around that distance if the fleet around Azadistan can't find any way to kill or deter it.

and are you just trolling for trouble?

Are you troll-naming just for trouble?

[South Harlonia]

I am now going to be participating in a mild fashion, primarily against Munkchester.

For this purpose, limited financial and military assistance will be sent to Azadistan and associates.

Not everyone attacking Azadistan is supporting slavers thats IC propaganda some of us are fighting jihadis because Azadistan committed a massacre against civilians for jihad

[Mandakhstan]

About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position by default access which is not approved does not exist. This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to botnets.

Okay now explain it without poorly conceived and barely applicable terms.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I'll rephrase and explain it a bit more. (I'm trying to resist going into jargon because jargon is not widely intelligible). About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position where default access which is not approved does not exist (i.e. there is no access for things which are not approved before entering the Commonwealth's internet). This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to everyone including botnets.

When you pull your forces drop my airborne off at Rhinocera please, I’m not sticking around to help these fellas if your not.

'course, that goes without saying.

Harlonia, please do stop quoting mods like they support your position. "looks like you dont get to control Azadistans actions just to make it easier for you" is not what the mod's statement amounted too. OOC consent has not yet been withdrawn. Besides which legal control is another matter.

On the other points, if you were luring it with a special acoustic noise, surely you would need something on the other side to lure it? As for the 200 km, your post currently takes the fact that it finishes the run for granted - "By the time it was within 200km of its target" is hardly open to interpretation. Also, how large is it?

But you'll have to answer these points later, because I'm banning you from this thread for 24 hours until you've calmed down a bit. You can't just go swanning into other people's RPs without their consent and behave like you own the place. RPing requires co-operation, a bit of give and take; responding to people if they object and all that, trying to work out something that everyone can just about accept, even if they view it differently.

On that subject Mecklenberg can I just check with you how far your submarines have travelled in the direction of Azadistan? I'd be surprised if they've arrived that near already?

On that subject, how long does everybody think this RP's been going on for? I'm currently estimating about a day.

[Munkchester]

You can't just go swanning into other people's RPs without their consent and behave like you own the place.

hmmm

[Old Beringia]

Question 1:
Where are your E-Wings flying?

Question 2:
Do you have stats for it?

Question 3:
And what exactly are your F-70's? Do you have stats for it?

Beringia, the only question I didn‘t provide with some sort of answer was whether I had any stats. The F-70 is in Halcyon arms.

Question 4:
What kind of laser is it?

Question 5:
Why are you randomly shooting lasers around with your other planes nearby anyway? How are you not blinding your own pilots?



Ausitoria you only answered one question and that was after I repeated myself. Your non-answer, "am I going to have to explain optical communications", isn't even an appropriate response to one of the questions I asked. As for my commerce raider I have permission to use the submarine. If it being Nifonese is an issue then we'll say it's Beringian. It's in a shipping lane leading to the Commonwealth. And one more thing.

Question 6
How exactly does the 'Electric Moat' prevent Beringian intelligence agents, who are using Austorian IP ranges, from communicating with Austorians and Azadistanis on foreign and indigenous networks, such as facebook?

[Mandakhstan]

I'll rephrase and explain it a bit more. (I'm trying to resist going into jargon because jargon is not widely intelligible). About the whole electronic moat business, the thing to realize is that the Commonwealth can switch to the position where default access which is not approved does not exist (i.e. there is no access for things which are not approved before entering the Commonwealth's internet). This is mildly disruptive but less disruptive than giving access to everyone including botnets.

So basically you just cut off a few thousand nations and decided it didn't have any major impact on your economy, despite the heavy reliance of modern finance on rapid international communication and currency exchange via the internet in order to facilitate internal and external prosperity alike, something a nation with a horrifyingly bloated GDP of about ten times the USA's would require. Right. Mind telling me how allowance of access is decided?

[Sinkretichki Kombinat]

There is no way to tell a packet part of the cyberattack from a legitimate request to access, in case you want to somehow retain regular access to people of those nations to not tank your economy.