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Postby Irusa » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:58 pm

OOC: Considering the majority of the RP has been a poorly constructed effort by the OP which has been mostly vague or godmoddy 1-2 liners, and considering when I joined there was a spam of the aforementioned, you can't really kick up a fuss about me lowering my standards for this.
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Postby Azadistan-land of the free » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:00 pm

Azadistan-land of the free wrote:The ALA and SAS are currently patrolling the Eastgate looking for insurgents,WMDs or conscripts.

Azadistani combatants go into a pub looking for drunk insurgents. Their strategy is to cry"death to Munkchester" see if they get stabbed and if they do get stabbed detain the assailants.
"Death to Munkchester"shouts their captain.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:01 pm

Munkchester wrote:
Azadistan-land of the free wrote:Civilian jets converted for airforce used and marked with "Azadistani SAS" have been flown to Munkchester where ALA and SAS people(including Queen Bilqis) have been parachuted into Munkchester.

OOC: Alright, I was willing to ignore the issue the first time, but how did you even get into Munkcestrian airspace? And how is the Sultan still alive in another country? He would've been killed in Munkchester, unless he's somehow immortal.

[OOC: You’re quite right.

Azadistan, I’m still trying to get to grips with things... did you say the Azadistani government was willing to sign that treaty or not?


Irusa wrote:OOC: Considering the majority of the RP has been a poorly constructed effort by the OP which has been mostly vague or godmoddy 1-2 liners, and considering when I joined there was a spam of the aforementioned, you can't really kick up a fuss about me lowering my standards for this.

Yes, I appreciate I can’t complain, and that you acted with the best of motives. But I can insist we RP properly how your aircraft try to get past Aestoria’s, especially as we should try to get this RP a bit more organized].
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Azadistan willing to sign treaty

Postby Azadistan-land of the free » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:04 pm

Queen Fatima and the ALA both agree they are willing to sign a Librara backed treaty with their lawyers present.

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Postby Atkemri » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:09 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
Munkchester wrote:OOC: Alright, I was willing to ignore the issue the first time, but how did you even get into Munkcestrian airspace? And how is the Sultan still alive in another country? He would've been killed in Munkchester, unless he's somehow immortal.

[OOC: You’re quite right.

Azadistan, I’m still trying to get to grips with things... did you say the Azadistani government was willing to sign that treaty or not?


Irusa wrote:OOC: Considering the majority of the RP has been a poorly constructed effort by the OP which has been mostly vague or godmoddy 1-2 liners, and considering when I joined there was a spam of the aforementioned, you can't really kick up a fuss about me lowering my standards for this.

Yes, I appreciate I can’t complain, and that you acted with the best of motives. But I can insist we RP properly how your aircraft try to get past Aestoria’s, especially as we should try to get this RP a bit more organized].

OOC: By the way you never answered that telegram I sent you about how public the Azadistani annexation treaty is
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Postby Tazbekistan » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:11 pm

Behind closed doors, president Karzak was discussing with Jamatt Katz which faction they might wish to support.

Karzak paced the room, hands behind his back, while Katz read out loud the advantages and disadvantages of each faction.

There were 5 factions in total who were operating in Azadistan, each with their own agenda.

"What about the Communist faction?", asked Katz.

"You are still young, my cousin", replied Karazk. "And because you are young you will not remember how the communists nearly destroyed our beloved Tazbekistan."
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Postby Aresin » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:14 pm

Tazbekistan wrote:Behind closed doors, president Karzak was discussing with Jamatt Katz which faction they might wish to support.

Karzak paced the room, hands behind his back, while Katz read out loud the advantages and disadvantages of each faction.

There were 5 factions in total who were operating in Azadistan, each with their own agenda.

"What about the Communist faction?", asked Katz.

"You are still young, my cousin", replied Karazk. "And because you are young you will not remember how the communists nearly destroyed our beloved Tazbekistan."

OOC: Please for the love of God don't get communists involved. This is complicated enough.

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Weapons shipped to Munkchester

Postby Azadistan-land of the free » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:28 pm

OOC: it doesn't matter Munkchester are not here we can do a proxy war.

-Azadistani guns are flown to Munkchester in the dead of night by black planes-

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Postby Kyneland » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:33 pm

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To : All leaders in this conflict | From : His Majesty’s govt.


Greetings,

It has come to our attention that, because of the war, we have gained a sufficient amount of refugees that are or feel as though they are oppressed or held-down in Azadistan. Because of this, we have decided to now pull out a few of our ships but leave the remove few to stay until the war has reached its end. His Majesty has also said he would allow personally refuge for members of the Azadistani royalty that are not in any way connected to this conflict OR desire to no longer associate with the current state of Azadistan. Following consultation with His Majesty, we have also gained approval for allowing Kynelander peacekeepers to operate within Azadistan if the government of the Sultan wishes it.

His Majesty has expressed his regret at what this has turned into, from the terrorist actions of a crime family into a full-blown war.

If the Azadistani government has any enquiries, they are welcome to send telegrams or other messages with their questions within.

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19:72 Hours, Thursday 31st May 2018
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“Your Majesty,” started a masculine voice with a British accent, one resembling a southeastern accent, “this is a very bad, idea. You do realise that, right? We might be sending our men and women to a war zone. I can’t see this going down well, I mean, even our middle eastern mission is still ongoing.”
“I’ve made up my mind, Mr Blakwell,” replied a man by the window. The voice belonged to King Karter of Kyneland, the small but controversial nation within the North Sea. The man he just replied to was Harri Blakwell, the MP for Puzów and its parliamentary representive. “I can understand your concerns, but I’d rather get something out of this war rather than letting such an opportunity go.”
“But Your Majesty, surely you’ve taken into account what might happen?” Asked Mr Blakwell, shuffling his papers. “We could have some serious problems on our hands if we’re not careful. The Azadistanis aren’t very fond of us, after all.”
“Whether they accept or not is up to them. And if they do attack our peacekeepers, well, we could always just declare war and increase the pressure on Azadistan. They won’t last long either way.”
The MP sighed, retaking his seat. “Of course, Your Majesty. I can assure you you'll have my support.” After this reply, the King nodded.
“Of course.” Looking at his pot of tea and tea cup on the desk, the King turned to look at the MP. “Do you mind getting me another pot of tea, Mr Blakwell? I’ll look over those papers whilst you’re on your way,” the King politely asked, sitting at his desk.
The MP bowed. “Yes, Your Majesty. I shouldn’t be long.”
“I’d hope not,” the King said with a chuckle.

When the MP left, the King leant back in his chair, a groan escaping him. “Hopefully this’ll go down well. I can’t be bothered just letting this all go down whilst we stand by and not help out the citizenry caught in the middle of this.”

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Postby Jebslund » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:57 pm

Azadistan-land of the free wrote:OOC: it doesn't matter Munkchester are not here we can do a proxy war.

-Azadistani guns are flown to Munkchester in the dead of night by black planes-

[OOC: If Munkchester aren't in Azadistan, odds are they're still at home. A surprise attack may have been possible in WWII, but any modern nation is going to have enough monitoring the skies that black paint ain't gonna be anywhere near enough to launch a surprise attack. You'd need proper stealth aircraft, and they'd need to be better than the defending country's detection networks. Also, a proxy war is when two nations support two other nations in conflict with the hopes of depleting the other nation's resources, or, at the very least, drawing some of the enemy's force projection out of their nation. It's not one nation attacking another nation somewhere else.

TLDR: It does matter, and stunts like that are how you put other players off of RPing with you. You can send your planes, but having them make it into the other player's nation and drop troops is godmoding.]
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:33 pm

[OOC: Agreed.

All further OOC chatter thataway.]


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By Order of The Prince-Secretary & Viceroy of the Azadistani Commonwealth


Whereas the Azadistani Commonwealth has ceased to exist as a sovereign independent entity, and is now part of the Aestorian Commonwealth,

Whereas under Section 202 of the Treaty of Azadistan, "the Azadistani Commonwealth shall cease to consider itself at war with any foreign territory",

Therefore, I, by the powers invested in me by the Aestorian Commonwealth, by the grace and love of Allah, and for the sake of peace, in my powers as Viceroy, hereby order all Azadistan forces to cease their aggressive actions and return to the Azadistani Commonwealth, and declare an armistice and cease-fire,

Therefore, I, by the powers invested in me by the Aestorian Commonwealth, by the grace and love of Allah, and for the sake of peace, in my powers as Viceroy, hereby invite all parties which wish to end this war and request trials of persons, make claims for damages, indemnities, and the like to do so forthwith at the International Arbitration Court,

I do not lift the exclusion zone put in place around Azadistani to ensure Azadistani's effective defence.

The Commonwealth currently recognizes no state of hostilities. While we will not hesitate to defend Azadistani, now or for as long as it is part of the Commonwealth, there is no longer any need for war, and there is no longer any war to fight.


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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:36 pm

Old Beringia wrote:OOC: I was planning to insert myself fully into this by joining Atkemri in the Canary Islands and a post directed at Ausitoria but I see a lot has happened since I last posted. Like the invasion of Munkchester...


OOC: This is fine. So far we're only starting the invasion while everyone else is rushing the C objective with Negevs. Come join us!
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:49 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:[OOC: Azadistan, please retcon any reaction you’ve made to Fairhaven, Irusa, or Filipbongistan. They’re godmodding and they shouldn’t be taking advantage of you like that.

Just to be clear, where is Munkchester? And are you willing to sign the proposed treaty?]

And it’s not like Azadistan hasn’t been godmodding this entire damn time
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Postby Munkchester » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:49 pm

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It was one of the municipal workers clearing away the rubble from repeated bombings on minimum wage who discovered the Sultan's body, amazingly still mostly intact despite all sorts of bombs and missiles being directed specifically at him.

More senior municipal workers quickly arrived with a sword, removing the Sultan's head and then promptly placing it on a spike on the Eastgate itself. Munkchester's goal in the war had, at last, been achieved.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:50 pm

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By Order of Their Imperial Majesty's Government


Current State of Azadistan


War:

In view of the complete absence of attacks upon the Aestorian Commonwealth or its territories and protectorates, the Aestorian Commonwealth is operating under the assumption that the sole declaration of war (from Atkemri) against the Commonwealth is notional and that war has been averted.

As such the Commonwealth will continue to provide assistance to Atkemri civilians on the high seas and protection from slaver raids. However the Commonwealth shall cease to presume innocent navigation on the high seas by Atkemri warcraft.

The Commonwealth would like to note a wider war would be disruptive to its trade, especially with major trading partners in the Panessos Free Trade Zone, Reichsburg Free Trade area, the Western Atlantic; if such trade was interrupted the Commonwealth and its allies would be compelled to take any such war to its enemies to strangle their economies and political willpower as necessary to restore peace. However the Commonwealth, unlike the aggressors, has no territorial ambitions against any would-be enemies and intends only the defence of justice, peace, liberty, and prosperity. We would like to reiterate that the correct way to achieve these is through appropriate courts and diplomatic channels.

To this end the Commonwealth requests and requires the return of former prisoners of war, now held in bondage without charge or habeus corpus, as required under multiple international laws; and the proper treatment of human remains, as required under for instance clause 11 of GAR 375.

The Commonwealth would finally like to note, in the interest of de-escalation, that our deterrent covers Azadistan.

Peace:

The Commonwealth would like to thank international peacekeepers and humanitarian workers in the country for their assistance while we set up the federal government. The Federal Government has divided the country into ten administrative districts and is planning to operate 100 ports and airports, planning 100 new power stations, planning to operate 1000 hospitals, planning 10,000 new schools, planning everything from waste management to wifi and firefighters to financial systems, and there are now well over 100,000 federal civil servants working on Azadastani. International assistance will be greatly appreciated in assisting development plans in the coming months.

The Commonwealth shall also be exempting Azadastani from federal income tax, company tax, and value added tax this financial year as part of the refugee resettlement programme.


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Dear Friends,

The Commonwealth is concerned for its security both near and far. Would you be willing to establish a visible base in Azadistan immediately? We can provide transport.

Signed,

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Postby Aresin » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:12 pm

To: The Viceroy of the Azadistani Commonwealth
From: The Aresin War Department

It has recently come to our attention that you are stating that the war has ended. Unfortunately, there is no evidence that any party, aside from yours, has recognized that the war has indeed ended. As such we are unwilling to remove any of our forces from Azadistan until we recieve sufficient evidence that all hostilities have ceased. As always, we are willing to cooperate with your nation as long as this occupation continues, and we do not wish to engage in hostilities with your nation. In fact, we welcome this new Azadistan, along with Libraria and Ausitoria, as a potential ally rather than an enemy.

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Seeing the blantantly imperialist actions of Libraria and Ausitoria we declare the war cannot be declared over. As such a state of WAR exists between Atkemri and Libraria and Ausitoria.


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OOC: THE WAR IS NOT OVER. PLEASE CHANGE THE TITLE.
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Postby Azadistan-land of the free » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:09 am

A council of Azadistani community leaders and activists have requested help with a petition as Aresinian troops are still in the streets,Azadistani prisoners are still in Exodian territories and Atemkemri is on the verge of taking Azadistan from the Aestorian Commonwealth as well as requesting they use diplomat pressure to retrieve Sultan Ahmed's head for proper burial.

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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:46 pm

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By Order of Their Imperial Majesty's Government


Current State of Azadistan


Further to our earlier statements and after preliminary consultation with Parliament, the Aestorian Commonwealth seeks views and expressions from interested parties who would like to join an International Monitoring Group to assist, physically or as an advisory group, in finding intelligence to stamp out terrorist and criminal elements opposed to international law and order; and to rebuild, redevelop, and educate the country. We would especially like to invite Samudera Darussalam, Rhinocera, Naybra, Kynland, and Aresin to join this group, but otherwise any country which does not consider itself at war with the Commonwealth is welcome to apply.

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Aestorian Parliamentary Records. Azadistan Treaty Debate. Excerpt until Anchor 3.


Lady High Speaker: Order. Welcome to this joint session of parliament. Azadistan Treaty Debate. Statement from the Prime Minister.

PM: Thank you Lady High Speaker.

My lords, ladies, and gentlemen; you will all have seen the proposals laid before the house for a Treaty formalizing the protectorate of Azadistan and allowing its incorporation into the Aestorian Commonwealth. The proposal aims to secure Azadistan from foreign attack and impending collapse and permit the Commonwealth to establish proper democratic government and justice. It fulfils the triple standard of liberal interventionism: international security, democracy, and humanitarian interest. h2*

The provisions of the treaty are hybrid provisions, going further than the customs limits placed on federal states and also curtailing military, intelligence, and diplomatic excess and independence, and requiring the formal superiority of federal and universal law. They do not go so far as to demilitarize the country, nor to prevent the continued existence and peaceability of their foreign establishment, or indeed the operation of local laws and courts not inconsistent with these limits.

The proposal also makes provision for limited elections to the Commons and Assembly. My government does not believe this treaty is a permanent settlement nor solution. Nor do we desire closer union. This union is a union for as long as it is of mutual benefit, a liaison formalized into a marriage of convenience, freely entered and exited. The year minimum before Azadistan can exit is simply to ensure that the local government has time to breath, reorganize, and come to some sort of understanding of what, as a nation, Azadistan intends to make of itself.

We are aware that certain nations consider themselves to be at war with Azadistan. We hope there will be peace. Certainly the Commonwealth does not recognize any general state of war, and we will endeavour to de-escalate the situation in the coming days and weeks. h2

However we will of course take purely defensive measures to secure the Commonwealth and trade routes. h2

My government also recognizes that the inclusion of Azadistan undoubtedly lowers the GDP per capita of the nation, requiring us to run a higher deficit. As this comes in exchange for unfettered market access we hope this will prove as profitable and long-sighted as our investments in the less developed parts of Panessos and Decis. h2

It is not customary for a government with the confidence of Parliament to submit treaties to Parliament and nor should this be considered to indicate any shift in the Constitutional settlement. This is laid before Parliament as the full application of these provisions would modify the composition of Parliament, and as the government does value the opinion of Parliamentarians and their channeling of the people’s voice. h2

I commend this treaty to Parliament. h2

Leader of the Opposition: Thank you for giving us advance notice of your speech and the text. We received it five hours ago, which, given the speed you are moving at, is quite impressive. Indeed an advanced copy of the Courante would have it that apparently the treaty was written with less than thirty minutes’ thinking time. All this is only at least ten times less discussion than something of this sort should have. h2 The phrase ‘crossing the road in too much of a hurry’ comes to mind. h2 Is it possible you might be leading us to the brink yet again? h2

PM: It is in our interests ...not to be too late. h2

LO: I see the foreign secretary is muttering and smirking. He is his usual bouncy self, bouncing treaties through parliament, the prime minister, and international diplomacy like a xenophobic bouncer at a club. ++* Why are we being the party-pooping world policemen, going against the will of a sizeable number of foreign nations? What of international law and the ability of foreign countries to sort this out? h2

PM: I defer to the party-pooper. ++

LHS: Foreign Secretary.

FS: Thank you Lady Speaker. I suppose being called the party pooper is better than being called a bouncer, and either beat being called xenophobic. h2

We should not be too late, as I was telling the Prime Minister, and as he has told you. I shall smile a great deal more if I can get this message across to everyone. Let me start by making it abundantly clear that even if you think I leap into things, compared with some countries, including La Cosa Fedora, which declared war on Azadistan after a few rude exchanges at a science conference, my leaping is as a snail compared to the Leader of the Opposition’s impression of me. It has been said a day is a long time in politics and a century is a long time in diplomacy. A century is a long time for the Commonwealth, to be sure, but for Azadistan a month’s peace and quiet would be a release.

Therefore it becomes necessary for us to intervene - rapidly. An invasion to destroy a nation will not wait for Parliament to sit around. It will wait when it catches sight of our flag, our warships, our Pax Prosperitas. h2 That is why we are being instant policeman of first resort: to delay war until our law and order has made war unnecessary and fruitless. h2

If the people of the Angel alliance had any sense they’d thank us. I hear that Muslim counterinsurgencies can be extremely bloody and extremely expensive. Their generals may have a gung-ho jingoistic attitude, but there is nothing light-hearted about war and terrorism and if the people of the world have any sense they will restrain their bloodthirsty warmongering politicians and vote for a more sensible foreign policy than trying to invade a nation which is on the brink of becoming a failed terrorist-filled state while simultaneously fighting a fully developed nation with powerful trading allies, which, if push comes to shove, will give them a war that will teach them the benefit of peace. h2

If I can finally one make one point -

LHS: Quickly.

FS: The Leader of the opposition has rightly perhaps decried past Ausitorian excess. This is us now decrying foreign excess. h2

LO: Thank you for the lecture. Bluster and improvizations wins again. $*

LHS: Order! $* Order! $* Silence!

Whether an opinion is a fact is not a matter for an individual to decide. ∩* But the fact is that everybody has the right to draw their own conclusions. The Leader of the Opposition.

LO: Why are we blustering towards war with a liberal alliance in favour of security and opposed to terrorism? h2

PM: Because there are better ways to favour security and oppose terrorism than the jingoistic bluster of these Angels of death. h2 Can’t you contribute? h2 I give way to the Deputy Prime Minister.

DPM: Lady Speaker, Lords, Ladies, and Gentlemen, can we stop treating this as a party political? We’ve invited the upper chamber along for a debate and all that anyone’s done is scream their heads off. It doesn’t do much for the dignity of Parliament h2 - even if the bouncer metaphor was hilarious although he’s not always on top. ++ I give way to the leader of the opposition.

LO: Then I repeat, if the Angel alliance are so trigger happy - which you may be wrong about - then why are we not inviting then to help run the country since in general they have the right motivations? h2

FS: One negotiates from a position of strength, in this case legal strength. And we have tried to get international observers in from the Council for Islamic Co-operation, and international peacekeepers. It is because that failed that we must take such strong and immediate measures. h2

But the government is considering getting an international monitoring group together. h2 They can help us find intelligence on any terrorist elements. h2 They can help us rebuild the country. h2 They can help us educate the country. h2

There are downsides to such a policy. The possibility of being misled, the possibility of being seen as an imposition by Azadastan, the possibility of confused and parallel law and order. We must discuss these issues in the coming days and weeks.

LHS: The Leader of the Further.

LF: Thank you, lady speaker. Well well, what a mess we have here. What a tangled web we weave in our diplomatic exploits. The spider-puppeteer strikes again. ∩

So, to contribute: let the international community in to help sort out the mess. h2 Respect the state government. h2 Arrange a pathway to independence if they should desire it. h2 Stop this liberal imperialism interventionism before it’s too late. $

LHS: Order! Right, we’re going to debate this. Anchor one on the record. @1 Debate. Can I have hands for those who currently wish to speak in favour of international mechanisms. h2

Thank you. Can I have hands of those who wish to speak on the treaty change of the composition to the house? The Foreign Secretary.

FS: The proposal is an interim measure. I know the representation is less than standard, but Azadistan’s membership is less than - of - a standard sort. The sovereignty is less than clear and likely temporary and certainly interim. Parliament can increase representation later, in time for the next scheduled election if need be. h2

LHS: Shadow Foreign Secretary.

SFS: The bouncer strikes again. It is not perfect - it would be better to be properly democratic and clearer on Azadistan’s constitutional position - but we can live with the proposed number of representatives for the moment. h2

LHS: Further Foreign Secretary.

FFS: We think the number is too small for a state and too high for an independent country. h2 It is muddled and confused. h2 It must be amended. h2

LHS: Foreign Secretary.

FS: Too late, and too early. I move we schedule a debating session in one month. I move we skip to third reading. I move we ratify the treaty and discuss what comes next, rather than unpicking our own diplomacy. h2

LHS: Anchor 2. @2 Votes. Debate Azadistan representation in one month. Those in favour aye, to the contrary nay. Whips?

LF: Aye.

LO: Aye.

LHS: Motion.

*

LHS: The ayes have it. Move to third - LO.

LO: We move to adjourn for fifteen minutes.

LHS: Whips?

LO: Aye.

LF: Aye.

LHS: Those in favour aye, to the contrary nay.

*

The ayes have it. Adjourned for fifteen minutes.

:-:

LHS: Order. Motion to skip to third reading. Leader of the Opposition.

LO: We think it better to finish this debate first. h2

LHS: Foreign Secretary.

FS: Motion withdrawn.

LHS: Anchor 3. @3 International Mechanisms. Lord White.

[…]



*h2 - hear, hear
+ - laughter, ++ when universal
$ - uproar, especially shouts of "shame!" and "hear hear!" from opposing factions
∩ - unintelligible talking, usually by whichever party you think are unintelligible
* - voting, shouts of "aye", "nay", and occasionally "meh" if the abstainers are being particularly vocal

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Due to the abbreviations used in the Parliamentary Records, the leader of the opposition (usually the second largest party) is often referred to as 'ello, 'ello; and the leader of the further (opposition) (usually the third largest party, if comparable in size to the opposition party) is often referred to as "the elf".
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Postby Azadistan-land of the free » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:49 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:
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By Order of Their Imperial Majesty's Government


Current State of Azadistan


War:

In view of the complete absence of attacks upon the Aestorian Commonwealth or its territories and protectorates, the Aestorian Commonwealth is operating under the assumption that the sole declaration of war Atkemri against the Commonwealth is notional and that war has been averted.

As such the Commonwealth will continue to provide assistance to Atkemri civilians on the high seas and protection from slaver raids. However the Commonwealth shall cease to presume innocent navigation on the high seas by Atkemri warcraft.

The Commonwealth would like to note a wider war would be disruptive to its trade, especially with major trading partners in the Panessos Free Trade Zone, Reichsburg Free Trade area, the Western Atlantic; if such trade was interrupted the Commonwealth and its allies would be compelled to take any such war to its enemies to strangle their economies and political willpower as necessary to restore peace. However the Commonwealth, unlike the aggressors, has no territorial ambitions against any would-be enemies and intends only the defence of justice, peace, liberty, and prosperity. We would like to reiterate that the correct way to achieve these is through appropriate courts and diplomatic channels.

To this end the Commonwealth requests and requires the return of former prisoners of war, now held in bondage without charge or habeus corpus, as required under multiple international laws; and the proper treatment of human remains, as required under for instance clause 11 of GAR 375.

The Commonwealth would finally like to note, in the interest of de-escalation, that our deterrent covers Azadistan.

Peace:

The Commonwealth would like to thank international peacekeepers and humanitarian workers in the country for their assistance while we set up the federal government. The Federal Government has divided the country into ten administrative districts and is planning to operate 100 ports and airports, planning 100 new power stations, planning to operate 1000 hospitals, planning 10,000 new schools, planning everything from waste management to wifi and firefighters to financial systems, and there are now well over 100,000 federal civil servants working on Azadastani. International assistance will be greatly appreciated in assisting development plans in the coming months.

The Commonwealth shall also be exempting Azadastani from federal income tax, company tax, and value added tax this financial year as part of the refugee resettlement programme.


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To: The State and Government of Rhinocera


Delivered by hand


Dear Friends,

The Commonwealth is concerned for its security both near and far. Would you be willing to establish a visible base in Azadistan immediately? We can provide transport.

Signed,

RHT= PK7-3
His Serene Maharaja=Anax=Inquisitor, Pope=President=Princips=Palatine=Patriarch Richard VII "Hajim-Rik" Terforton=Pirnzak; Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs Plenipotentary=Viceroy, Chattakang & the Commonwealth
Prime Minister of Panessos

Would you like to attend the maharani's coronation also the Sufi congress is being held soon.

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Postby Atkemri » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:33 pm

Atkemrian Cyber warfare division
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The war that was going to be waged, was at least at it's start would be non-conventional. A major hack attack would be launched the three top corporations in Libraria and Ausitoria. Viruses and other attacks would be launched on these entities.

Later major banks in Libraria and Ausitoria would be targeted with more focus being put on the richer areas to try and cause hysteria. Of course most hack attacks on the banks were focused on draining money but other ways of disrupting the banks were used, such as shutting down websites. The hackers were given the best equipment that could be bought on a 10 million budget. Their ISP's were well protected and it was ensured that they could not be traced to their origins.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:32 am

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Alexandria, Aestoria


"Reports are coming in of malware entering the Panessos servers," reported Agnes, Permanent Secretary to the Ministry of Intelligence and Statistics. This was a rather unspecific thing to say, but sometimes it takes time to work out what code does.

"Dangerous?" asked Alice, Minister of Intelligence and Statistics, understanding perfectly.

"Yes and no, it's not very well tuned to Commonwealth software, especially since we beefed up arrangements with our Terripin suppliers and developed our own systems. And of course the REACC* is frighteningly intelligence-savvy."

"Can you trace it?"

"Not really. We can try pinging undersea lines to sea what signals are disrupted, but it's not any of the SACTO ones we're familiar with."

"Still could be them. Sometimes you need human intelligence. But Atkemri is the only nation which has formally reiterated hostilities."

Alice hit the speed-dial.

"Kazpia? We've got malware inbound and I want to trace it and it's not known SACTO. Can we try Atkemri ones?"

"You've got submarines in position?"

"Yes."

"Alright, but if you take any websites offline, stop at once. It's slightly incongruous if we interrupt worldwide internet traffic while trying to get international observers on board. Gently does it - we should only interfere at the margins. Alert our friends so they can undo our interruptions."

"Will do."



* - the Royal East Ausitorian Commodities Company is a sovereign company with its own foreign policy and military budget. It has a capitalization of $40 trillion and spends $100 billion per year on cyber security, with its own satellites and optics. Its systems are also used by the others of the three major companies; Commonwealth Capital, an investment fund, and New C Fishion, which is itself a vertically-integrated multinational information technology company based in the Rajan Amraja & in Panessos City.

ACS Omnivore, Octopus-class Heavy Cruiser submarine
floating slightly above a particular Panessos connector


*ping* *sqrr* *png*

[OOC: I realize this may be a bit unintelligible. Basically the Commonwealth has developed methods of tracing physical effects on cables, and has the capacity to modulate the magnetic field around select cables to try to determine where streams of signals are coming from. Then, once it has done that, it has found the smoking gun and can block it, and assign blame.]

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To: The State Government of the Azadistan Commonwealth

Secret
Delivered by hand


Dear Friends,

The Commonwealth and attenders thereof would be delighted to attend the coronation of the Maharani of the Raj of Azadistan. May we suggest an open invitation be issued to Panessos states and those participating in peacekeeping and international aid?

Signed,

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Postby Atkemri » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:04 am

Canary Islands

"General Fen that sounds amazing. A EMP attack would certainly speed up the invasion. How many of the EMP's do you have" Roman walked out for a moment and brought in a tablet filled with maps of diffrent nations. He pulled up one of Libraria and Ausitoria and another of Azadistan with the invasion plan described by Roman before. He pulled out a stylus and puts it next to the tablet ."Anyone has plans to invade the Librarians put them here."

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From:Atkemrian office of foreign affairs

Encyption:MAX
We would like your asistance in preforming hack attacks on Libraria and Ausitoria. We have as of now been doing medium levels of damage against their systems but we have been running into roadblocks. We ask that your hackers attack major corperations and banks in the hopes we disrupt their economy. If it is needed attack the government's internet infrasturcture but we feel it may be too difficult.
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