Thus, Men of Iron Fought There (OOC, Semi-Closed)

[Parcia]

Reinforcement Unit:

3 Formations of men and machines, all of the 20th Guards Combined Arms Army "Defenders of Moscow"

200th Guards Motor Rifle brigade
41 x M-81 Main Battle Tanks (T-80)
36 x 2S19 Msta self-propelled howitzers
18 x BM-21 Grad Multiple Rocket Launchers
x 2500 Fighting men

12th Guards Armored Brigade
68x M92 Main battle Tanks
25x 2S19 Msta SPAGS
20 x BM-21 Grad
x 250 Fighting men

1st Guards Combined Infantry Brigade (infact 2 separate Guards Rifle brigades combined with a Guard Artillery unit)
x 230 BMP-2/3 APCs
x 9,000 Fighting Men
x 100 2A65 152mm Artillery guns
x 24 2S7 Pion 203mm Artillery guns
x 1600 Combat Engineers
x 230 Medical staff
x45 S-400 missile Systems

1st Guards Specialist Mechanized assault unit. "The Horsemen"
x2 CMP-1 Raven
x6 CMP-2 Riflemen
x4 CMP-3 Cossack

[The Union of British North America]

NATIONAL INFORMATION
Full (Official) Form of Nation: Union of Provinces in North America or Union of North American Provinces
Short Form(s): North America (NA), British North America (BNA), the Union
Constitutional Form: Federal constitutional monarchy (effectively executive Governor-General, Westminster aspects for the All-Union Parliament and HM North American Government, think like colonial American government though it has gotten democratic), British Dominion
National ideology: Liberal democracy
Head(s) of State: King-Emperor Charles III as King of the Union of Provinces in North America, though his personal representative Governor-General Felicity Graves is the effective national leader
Head(s) of the Foreign Ministry or equivalent:Minister for Foreign and United Empire Affairs Dean Fairchild
Head(s) of the Ministry of War or equivalent: Minister of Defense Jean-Baptiste Bateau

INFORMATION FOR CASE SPARTACUS
Is your nation on the NS Omni-Dimensional Hyper-Earth, or the world in which Sadera is on, henceforth referred to as Falmart out of OP's laziness?:Omni-Dimensional Hyper-Earth of NationStates
Will your nation side with Karlsland or Sadera?Karlsland, as a co-belligerent
Orders of Battle:

Ground forces:

The Sadera Field Force, North American Expeditionary Force (corps-size)
General Officer Commander-in-Chief Lieutenant-General Sir Harold Faceman

1 North American Brigade Group, NAEF-Sadera
General Officer Commanding Major-General Robert Cousteau

- Queen's American Rangers, Royal Ranger Regiment (QAR), North American Army (light infantry battalion, air assault, special operations capable)
- 2nd Battalion, 34th Maritime Regiment of Foot (34 MRF), Corps of Royal North American Marines (line amphibious infantry)
- 1st Battalion, 4th Princess Alicia's Dragoon Guards, Royal North American Cavalry Corps, North American Army (armored)
- 11th Field Artillery Regiment, RNAA (artillery regiment)
- 1st Battalion, 2nd Virginia Militia Regiment, Temporarily Impressed Provincial Forces, NAA (mechanized infantry)
- 1st Battalion, 1st Maryland Militia Regiment, TIPF (mechanized infantry)
- 1st Battalion, 5th Combat Engineer Regiment
- 39 Army Mixed Service Support Battalion (signals, medical, logistics, police, transport)

2 North American Brigade Group, NAEF-Sadera
General Officer Commanding Major-General Benjamin Briggs

- 2nd Battalion, The Black Watch of America, North American Army (light infantry)
- 1st Battalion, The Iroquois Scouts, North American Army (light infantry)
- 2nd Battalion, 6th Light Horse, Royal North American Cavalry Corps (6 LH), North American Army (light infantry, air assault)
- 1st Battalion, Chesapeake Hussars (Metal Gear bipedal armored units).
- 3rd Pennsylvania Militia Regiment, TIPF (mechanized infantry)
- 2nd North Carolina Militia Regiment, TIPF (mechanized infantry)
- 22nd Field Artillery Regiment, RNAA
- 2nd Battalion, 16th Combat Engineer Regiment
- 52 Army Mixed Service Support Battalion

Air units:
1 NAEF-Sadera Wing
Officer Commanding Group Captain Lionel Mandrake

- 345 Tactical Fighter Squadron (F-22A Tlanuwa air superiority fighters)
- 346 Tactical Fighter Squadron (F-35A Hinon II multi-role fighters)
- 278 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (UTH-66 Blackfoot general purpose helicopters)
- 279 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (UTH-66 Blackfoot general purpose helicopters)
- 289 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (Canard Rotor/Wing "Hammerhead" VTOL aircraft)
- 123 Combat Support Squadron (UTH-66 Blackfoot general purpose helicopters)

OTHER INFORMATION
Why do you want to join this roleplay?: I would like to field a modern military force in an RP setting with others, and I would like to develop my military and diplomacy narratives in that context as well.
RP sample, linked: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=422678&start=100

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You know what? As Co-OP I'm putting this rp on hold until Rup finishes moving so he can sort this whole fucking bloody mess out. I'm sick and tired of having to deal with people trying to run the rp themselves. Have fun doing other things for the next month or so.

[Parcia]

<trying to keep activity u
<"Run the Rp them selves."


Big difference.

But fuck it, you win. Im out.

You wont have to deal with my ass any more.

[The Selkie]

<trying to keep activity u
<"Run the Rp them selves."


Big difference.

But fuck it, you win. Im out.

You wont have to deal with my ass any more.

Now, now, please don't be rash. As usual, some of us might not know about all of the Discord-Drama going on. If Rup is moving, he might should have said so, so that we know, that there might be delays in replies and general activity, that is true, but people trying to keep activity going a bit every now and then is not running the RP.
It's, as usual, simply a matter of communication, where everyone, including myself, failed.

[Parcia]

You dont, selki, you really dont.

But i have had enough of the drama and im done whith his shit.

I have messaged both Alena and Rup inrelation to it.

[The Selkie]

You dont, selki, you really dont.

But i have had enough of the drama and im done whith his shit.

I have messaged both Alena and Rup inrelation to it.

Alright, then I hope, that we meet each other again elsewhere. Was fun RPing with you again!

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Oh, more drama.

Interesting that Rup didn't mention that he was moving.

[Rupudska]

In my defense I'm low on data, didn't expect it to take this long to get internet, and expected Ost to use his brain and tell everyone that I was moving since it seemed like something important enough to share. I should get semi regular internet by tomorrow or Tuesday though.

[Jebslund]

... Did't Rup mention they were moving a week or so ago? Or was that someone else?

[Parcia]

In my defense I'm low on data, didn't expect it to take this long to get internet, and expected Ost to use his brain and tell everyone that I was moving since it seemed like something important enough to share. I should get semi regular internet by tomorrow or Tuesday though.

Im sorry to hear that, cheers and best of luck with your Move.

[Wolfenium]

<trying to keep activity u
<"Run the Rp them selves."


Big difference.

But fuck it, you win. Im out.

You wont have to deal with my ass any more.

I'm very sorry to hear that. Hope you find another fun RP somewhere.

[Minroz]

Man, never expected to see dramas 'ere. I'm very sorry to hear that as well. Parcia, best of luck for you. Perhaps you'll find a more fun RP elsewhere.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You know what? As Co-OP I'm putting this rp on hold until Rup finishes moving so he can sort this whole fucking bloody mess out. I'm sick and tired of having to deal with people trying to run the rp themselves. Have fun doing other things for the next month or so.

Actually now that I've eaten properly in what feels like two weeks... I retract this. I apologise and I'm sorry Parcia for the mess in Discord. I'll see if I can get a post up this week.

[Parcia]

You know what? As Co-OP I'm putting this rp on hold until Rup finishes moving so he can sort this whole fucking bloody mess out. I'm sick and tired of having to deal with people trying to run the rp themselves. Have fun doing other things for the next month or so.

Actually now that I've eaten properly in what feels like two weeks... I retract this. I apologies and I'm sorry Parcia for the mess in Discord. I'll see if I can get a post up this week.

It's Cool man, we all get tilted by shit some times.

Ain't no Beef between us.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

K while Longina ponders over her choices of artillery shells and something worse than Grozny or high treason we can talk about future plans:
Naturally after we seize Italica/Alnus the Saderan Empire will be superpissed about it. They will attempt to mount an offensive to reclaim their lost territories on the scale of Kursk/Operation Citadel, this will take them 2-3 months to organise, it's currently late Aug.
My plan is to preempt this offensive by using our vastly superior mobility to take the mountains northeast of Italica before this 500-750 thousand man strong host is ready. Once there we dig a base of fire to move from and catch this host by surprise with a cauldron battle, with every last one of our combat ready formations. From that point on it's only 800-1,000 km's and the Praetorian Guards left to their Capital. The new massive portal that will handwave away all our logistics issues will come online in Black Forest, Württemberg, Karlsland after Longina makes her choice and well before the enemy is ready.
Any questions? : P

[Allanea]

I feel that this is overthinking.

[Allanea]

To clarify:

Assuming physics hasn't been totally canceled, and even if we conduct no significant long-range reconnaissance, we should be aware of this vast host approximately when it is within 300 kilometers from whenever we are. This vast host will not be able to fight us at that range (and indeed will likely still be forming up or arriving by its transport trains, and absolutely, definitely, not unwrapped from its transport columns).

Anything arriving to within 80 kilometers of us will be exposed to mind-shattering quantities of DPICM, which the enemy has no significant capability of avoiding (being he lacks a significant ability to camouflage his approach, or to protect his forces from oncoming shells, or to cross the danger zone rapidly).

This means the Saderans will have to choose between:

1) Traveling towards our positions in the form of pre-battle columns, exposing themselves to withering artillery and aviation fire which will murder them by the thousands.

2) Deploying into combat formations as far as 100-150 kilometers from us, which will slow them down horrifically (and will mean that they will take about a day to travel these last 100 kilometers even if we don't shoot at them, which of course we will).
As such, "shatter the sky" is a perfectly reasonable and sufficient reaction.

[The Selkie]

K while Longina ponders over her choices of artillery shells and something worse than Grozny or high treason we can talk about future plans:
Naturally after we seize Italica/Alnus the Saderan Empire will be superpissed about it. They will attempt to mount an offensive to reclaim their lost territories on the scale of Kursk/Operation Citadel, this will take them 2-3 months to organise, it's currently late Aug.
My plan is to preempt this offensive by using our vastly superior mobility to take the mountains northeast of Italica before this 500-750 thousand man strong host is ready. Once there we dig a base of fire to move from and catch this host by surprise with a cauldron battle, with every last one of our combat ready formations. From that point on it's only 800-1,000 km's and the Praetorian Guards left to their Capital. The new massive portal that will handwave away all our logistics issues will come online in Black Forest, Württemberg, Karlsland after Longina makes her choice and well before the enemy is ready.
Any questions? : P

Well, I mentioned it to you over TG already, but I was planning to write the repatriation of Asteria, we remember her, as per the armistice/surrender in one of my next posts.
I also had a few other interesting side-stories planned, but details about that over TG.
As for the rest of the plan, taking the mountain range and encircling them, throwing all combat-worthy formations into the fray, when the gigantic battle actually hits, I'm on with that plan. Just tell me, where you need what of me and I will be there... or rather, the SDF will be.
In those months, though, the SDF will move the units on standby in as well, that means another regiment, plus a few squadrons of planes and a few other things.

I would, however, add in an additional level of tension: That other portal not being online, thus logistics becoming an issue. Otherwise, it would get boring quickly because one of the last remaining possible advantages of Sadera, that we have to funnel every bullet through that little hole, would be gone and it would become too much of a cakewalk.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I would, however, add in an additional level of tension: That other portal not being online, thus logistics becoming an issue. Otherwise, it would get boring quickly because one of the last remaining possible advantages of Sadera, that we have to funnel every bullet through that little hole, would be gone and it would become too much of a cakewalk.

Tbh we already don't have that big of a logistics issue (thanks to Allanea). I was more thinking of relieving the pressure off of Berlin and prevent hostile agents (be they Falmartian or Earthican) from coming near it. Getting a 4 lane railway + 8 lane Autobahn sized portal is just a bonus (albeit a massive one).
Also Selkie, they outnumber us rn by about 500 to 1000 times. That's their sole advantage. <.<
We could reduce that numbers advantage a little and make it a tad easier for us by streamlining the feeding of divisions into Falmart. We also intend to raise a sizeable Italican army and arm Persitama, these things cannot be done with a 20 by 20 meter hole in the middle of Berlin visible to any adventurous "tourist"/GRU agent with sabotage weapons.
Yes. I am expecting Berlin to be absolutely festooned with deep cover unfriendly foreign intelligent services after this IC summer, more than it already is.

[The Selkie]

I would, however, add in an additional level of tension: That other portal not being online, thus logistics becoming an issue. Otherwise, it would get boring quickly because one of the last remaining possible advantages of Sadera, that we have to funnel every bullet through that little hole, would be gone and it would become too much of a cakewalk.

Tbh we already don't have that big of a logistics issue (thanks to Allanea). I was more thinking of relieving the pressure off of Berlin and prevent hostile agents (be they Falmartian or Earthican) from coming near it. Getting a 4 lane railway + 8 lane Autobahn sized portal is just a bonus (albeit a massive one).
Also Selkie, they outnumber us rn by about 500 to 1000 times. That's their sole advantage. <.<

Oh. I could now make a point of saying rn - Right Now - but that would be a bit questionable, as we quite literally hold every other advantage. Except maybe in the Magic-Department, but that is for you to decide.

[Parcia]

Building off what was said here.


You can count on my full and total participation in the Aerial Warfare part of this. Iv currently got my CAS squadron filtering in and I should have all the Fitter-Ks and Frogfoots, as well as the first of the Tomcats, up and dropping bombs.

I will also be opening the MI-35s as well as Parcian 155 and 203mm Artillery guns open for smaller level uses AE: Lower then the Regiment/battalion Use that most of the other arty Guns were being used for. Rocket arty is still locked to big targets though.

On top of that, I will be moving My Red Devil's Spetsnaz Unit out of the Forests and in to the hills to help scout and Secure the River heading in to the County of Italica

[Consertoria]

NATIONAL INFORMATION
Full (Official) Form of Nation: Grand Duchy of Consertoria
Short Form(s): Consertoria
Constitutional Form: Monarchy
National ideology: Capitalism
Head(s) of State: Queen Emilia Von Würsten
Head(s) of the Foreign Ministry or equivalent: Torvald Mackingson
Head(s) of the Ministry of War or equivalent: General Henriech Von Hutzendorf

INFORMATION FOR CASE SPARTACUS
Is your nation on the NS Omni-Dimensional Hyper-Earth, or the world in which Sadera is on, henceforth referred to as Falmart out of OP's laziness?: Falmart
Will your nation side with Karlsland or Sadera? Karlsland
Orders of Battle:

Consertorian Royal Army (80,000 Men active duty):

• Mechanized Brigade 1
  -Command Support Battalion 1 (Bataillon d'aide au commandement 1)
  -Reconnaissance Battalion 1 (Bataillon d'exploration 1) (Horses and bicycles/motorcycles)
  -Tank Battalion 11 (Bataillon de chars 12) (14 x AMX 40 Duck tanks)
  -Mechanized Battalion 17 (14 x Austin Armored Car)
  -Mechanized Battalion 18 (14 X Austin Armored Car)
  -Artillery Battalion 1 (8 x PAK 57 with horses)
  -Engineer Battalion 1
  
• Mechanized Brigade 4
  -Command Support Battalion 4
  -Reconnaissance battalion 4 (Horses and bicycles/motorcycles)
  -Reconnaissance battalion 5 (Horses and bicycles/motorcycles)
  -Artillery Battalion 10 (8 x PAK 57 with horses)
  -Artillery Battalion 49 (8 x PAK 57 with horses)
  -Bridge Engineer Battalion 26
  
• Mechanized Brigade 11 (Panzerbrigade 11)
  -Command Support Battalion 11
  -Reconnaissance battalion 11 (Horses and bicycles/motorcycles)
  -Tank Battalion 15 (Panzerbataillon 15) (14 x FT17 Light tanks)
  -Mechanized Battalion 14 (14 X Austin Armored Car)
  -Mechanized battalion 29 (14 X Austin Armored Car)
  -Artillery Battalion 16 (Artillerie Abteilung 16) (8 x PAK 57)
  -Engineer Battalion 11
  
• Mechanized Brigade 13 (Panzerbrigade 13)
  -Command Support Battalion 13
  -Reconnaissance battalion 13 (horses and bicycles/motorcycles)
  -Tank Battalion 13 (Panzerbataillon 13) (14 x Char. 2C Super heavy tanks)
  -Mechanized Battalion 16 (14 X Austin Armored Car)
  -Mechanized battalion 31 (14 X Austin Armored Car)
  -Engineer Battalion 14
  
• Mechanized Brigade 14 (Panzerbrigade 14)
  -Command Support Battalion 14
  -Reconnaissance battalion 14 (Horses and bicycles/motorcycles)
  -Tank Battalion 16 (Panzerbataillon 16) (14 x Char B. heavy tanks)
  -Mechanized Battalion 14 (14 X Austin Armored Car)
  -Mechanized battalion 29 (14 X Austin Armored Car)
  -Artillery Battalion 18 (Artillerie Abteilung 18) (8 x PAK 57)
  -Engineer Battalion 15
  
• Territorial Division 1 in Morgaunt
  -Territorial Division Staff Battalion 1
  -Rifle battalion 1 (Bataillon de Carabiniers 1)
  -Mountain Infantry battalion 7 (Bataillon d'infanterie de montagne 7) (Horses/motorcycles)
  -Infantry Battalion 13
  -Rifle battalion 14 (Bataillon de Carabiniers 14)
  -Infantry Battalion 19 (Bataillon d'infanterie 19)
  -Engineer Battalion 2
  -Emergency Rescue Battalion 1
  -Rescue Coordination Center 1
  -Patrouille des Glaciers Command
  
• Territorial Division 2 in Kriegers
  Territorial Division Staff Battalion 2
  -Infantry battalion 11
  -Infantry Battalion 20
  -Infantry Battalion 56
  -Infantry Battalion 97
  -Engineer Battalion 6
  -Emergency Rescue Battalion 2
  -Rescue Coordination Center 2
  
• Territorial Division 3 in Merginot
  -Territorial Division Staff Battalion 3
  -Mountain Infantry Battalion 29 (Horses/motorcycles)
  -Mountain Infantry Battalion 30 (Battaglione fanteria montagna 30)(Horses/motorcycles)
  -Mountain Infantry Battalion 48 (Horses/motorcycles)
  -Mountain Infantry Battalion 91 (Horses/motorcycles)
  -Engineer Battalion 9
  -Emergency Rescue Battalion 3
  -Rescue Coordination Center 3
  
• Territorial Division 4 in St. Gallentein
  Territorial Division Staff Battalion 4
  Mountain Rifle Battalion 6 (Gebirgsschützenbataillon 6) (Horses/motorcycles)
  Infantry Battalion 61
  Infantry Battalion 65
  Mountain Infantry Battalion 85 (Horses/motorcycles)
  Engineer Battalion 23
  Emergency Rescue Battalion 4
  Rescue Coordination Center 4

Consertorian Royal Air Force (80,000 Men active duty):

• Bernburg Airport International Airpt.LSZB / LSMB
  LTDB (VIP flights)
  
• Drusselstien Air Base (Army Airfield), a former fighter base and current homebase of
  Consertorian Air Force Command
  Air Defence & Direction Centre
  Skyguide (military & civil air traffic control)
  
• Flugplatzkommando 2 Zubermann Air Base (Airbase 2), a logistic base
  Air Transport Wing 2
  -Air Transport Squadron 6 (12 x C-45)
  -Air Transport Squadron 8 (12 x JU-52)
  -Air Transport Detachment 2
  
• Flugplatzkommando 4 Lusbich Air Base (Airbase 4), a flight training base (12 x T-6)
  
• Flugplatzkommando 7 Emanon Air Base (Airbase 7)
  -7th Air Transport Squadron (C-45)
  -Patrouille Consertorie (15 x MS. 406)
  -Pilot Training School (6 x T-6)
  -Airbase Support Squadron 7
  -Logistic Support Squadron 7
  
• Flugplatzkommando 11 Klosterman Air Base (Airbase 11), an air defense base hosting
  Air Transport Wing 1
  -Air Transport Squadron 1 (12 x C-45)
  -Air Transport Squadron 5 (12 x JU-52)
  -Air Transport Detachment 1
  
  Fighter Wing 11
  -Fighter Squadron 17 (15 x P-40)
  -Fighter Squadron 18 (15 x P-38)
  -Airbase Detachment 11
  
  Fighter Wing 14
  -Fighter Squadron 6 (15 x MS. 406)
  -Fighter Squadron 19 (15 x MS. 406)
  -Airbase Detachment 14
  
• Flugplatzkommando 13 Meiningen Air Base (Airbase 13), an air defense base hosting
  Fighter Wing 13
  -Fighter Squadron 8 (15 x MS.406)
  -Fighter Squadron 11 (15 x P-40)
  -Airbase Detachment 13

OTHER INFORMATION
Why do you want to join this roleplay?: Falmart puppet to Mediama
RP sample, linked: RP as Mediama

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I would, however, add in an additional level of tension: That other portal not being online, thus logistics becoming an issue. Otherwise, it would get boring quickly because one of the last remaining possible advantages of Sadera, that we have to funnel every bullet through that little hole, would be gone and it would become too much of a cakewalk.

Tbh we already don't have that big of a logistics issue (thanks to Allanea). I was more thinking of relieving the pressure off of Berlin and prevent hostile agents (be they Falmartian or Earthican) from coming near it. Getting a 4 lane railway + 8 lane Autobahn sized portal is just a bonus (albeit a massive one).
Also Selkie, they outnumber us rn by about 500 to 1000 times. That's their sole advantage. <.<
We could reduce that numbers advantage a little and make it a tad easier for us by streamlining the feeding of divisions into Falmart. We also intend to raise a sizeable Italican army and arm Persitama, these things cannot be done with a 20 by 20 meter hole in the middle of Berlin visible to any adventurous "tourist"/GRU agent with sabotage weapons.
Yes. I am expecting Berlin to be absolutely festooned with deep cover unfriendly foreign intelligent services after this IC summer, more than it already is.

Islamists disguised as GRU disguised as civilians equipped with orussian weapons by an unknown backer who only contacts them via left behind audiotapes on which he refers to himself as a fellow comrade in the eternal struggle against the northern and western infidels.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Tbh we already don't have that big of a logistics issue (thanks to Allanea). I was more thinking of relieving the pressure off of Berlin and prevent hostile agents (be they Falmartian or Earthican) from coming near it. Getting a 4 lane railway + 8 lane Autobahn sized portal is just a bonus (albeit a massive one).
Also Selkie, they outnumber us rn by about 500 to 1000 times. That's their sole advantage. <.<
We could reduce that numbers advantage a little and make it a tad easier for us by streamlining the feeding of divisions into Falmart. We also intend to raise a sizeable Italican army and arm Persitama, these things cannot be done with a 20 by 20 meter hole in the middle of Berlin visible to any adventurous "tourist"/GRU agent with sabotage weapons.
Yes. I am expecting Berlin to be absolutely festooned with deep cover unfriendly foreign intelligent services after this IC summer, more than it already is.

Islamists disguised as GRU disguised as civilians equipped with orussian weapons by an unknown backer who only contacts them via left behind audiotapes on which he refers to himself as a fellow comrade in the eternal struggle against the northern and western infidels. :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: