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by Alteran Republics » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:35 pm
by Athara Magarat » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:09 pm
by Athara Magarat » Thu May 30, 2019 5:40 am
by Dothrakia » Fri May 31, 2019 6:11 pm
Athara Magarat wrote:Guys would it be okay if Empire of Magarat had 22 million people before the war? I do not want to sound like a d-head who keeps changing things but yeah, I am a d-head, but I am thinking of having the population for the Empire be this large.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1216095
I meant with Tracera as part of the Empire. This would mean that the Empire is now as populous as Belgian Empire was during WW2.
by Athara Magarat » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:28 am
Dothrakia wrote:Athara Magarat wrote:Guys would it be okay if Empire of Magarat had 22 million people before the war? I do not want to sound like a d-head who keeps changing things but yeah, I am a d-head, but I am thinking of having the population for the Empire be this large.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1216095
I meant with Tracera as part of the Empire. This would mean that the Empire is now as populous as Belgian Empire was during WW2.
I mean works for me.
How would this affect the overall rp though?
by Athara Magarat » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:31 am
Battle of Fiorenzo - 1941
As planned, the Neo-Imperialist powers simultaneously declared the Ouronan Invasion of Almorea and the Magarati Invasion of San Montagna on March 16th, 1941. The Karnali Sea and South Mesder Sea were now under heavy patrolling by joint Ilsan, Ouronan and Magarati fleets. Emperor Temur Buduja directed armies in colonial Tracera (part of the Empire of Magarat back then) to join the Almorean Campaign while preparing 10 divisions of 200,000 Magarati soldiers, over 300 aircraft and nearly 600 tanks for the invasion of San Montagna. The Magarati divisions tasked with the invasion were veterans of the Doman-Magarati War such as the Nine Gyarong Gun, the Chepangic Gun and the Jirel Vanguard; with the rest of the invading force comprising of the Kumal Gun, the Myahak Gun, the Iron Gun, the Marubhumi Gun, the Nine Khas Gun, the Shingsaba Gun and the Helambu Gun. The San Montagnan army on the other hand was composed of at least 300,000??? men.
The Imperial Magarati Army made rapid progress of putting town after town and city and city under their control until they arrived at Fiorenzo. The Chepangic Gun under Major General Kamal Bahadur Praja (whose ranks and files were mostly from southern Chatha which now in San Montagna itself) were the first to arrive in the city but failed to advance any further. On the 18th, the Nine Gyarong Gun under Lieutenant General Seisai Tahanagi and the Iron Gun under Major General Henry Gharabja arrived as reinforcements. The Magaratis were now able to encircle the San Montagnan defenders.
After that, the fate of the encircled San Montagnan army was sealed. With no mobile forces or supreme commander left, there was no possibility to effect a breakout. The infantry of the Nine Gyarong Gun and the Chepangic Gun, marching behind Gharabja's tanks, were extremely effective against their enemy. The three Magarati divisions systematically began to reduce the pocket. However, the encircled San Montagnan army at Fiorenzo did not give up easily. A savage battle in which the San Montagnan defenders were bombarded by Magarati artillery, tanks and aircraft had to be fought before the pocket was overcome.
On 28th March, Fiorenzo finally fell after the death of the San Montagnan commanderTBD; but the encirclement battle still continued. After 10 days of heavy fighting (much more than what the Magarati high command and generals had expected), the last remnants of San Montagnan troops just east of the city's outskirts surrendered as well. The Magaratis claimed that over 300,000 San Montagnans were now their prisoners, although these claims have included a large number of civilians rather than just soldiers. Many of these prisoners of war and San Montagnan civilians were massacred in large numbers after the Magarati victory with no true figures available even today.
During withdrawal from Fiorenzo on the 28th, several members of headquarter staff such as TBDcommanders123? perished. Many sources agree that only 20,000 or so San Montagnan troops managed to break through the encirclement with the Magarati casualties being around 20,000 men and 40 tanks.
by Austrovik-Germania » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:34 am
by Brulafi » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:58 am
by Dothrakia » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:00 pm
Brulafi wrote:Okay, so the plan so far is:
Brulafi before the Imperial War was a post-colonial Republic, with most political institutions directly or indirectly controlled by international corporations. The military of Brulafi had fairly modern equipment even up until the late 1930s, but most of it was directed for use against internal threats, and the military was generally woefully unprepared to guard against an external invasion threat. The Brulafi Socialist Worker's Party, founded in 1922, was gaining steady popularity with the lower and middle classes, who felt that their new government was just a new colony of the corporations. Things existed in an unsteady balance, until the government banned the BSWP in 1936. The party went underground, and at times it seemed the country would explode into full revolution as the party began to arm itself for an insurrection against the government and leftist members of the armed forces began to desert. It was in this time of weakness that the Magarati empire found it a perfect time to strike, swarming over the northern border from occupied San Montagna and overruning the nation's military in three weeks. The government of the Republic fled to Miklania to wait out the occupation, while the Socialist Worker's Party took the opportunity to paint itself as the vanguard for the resistance to occupation. Soon the National Front was formed, allying the BSWP with the pre-war Social Democratic Party and former army units that had escaped arrest and disarmament. Tentative communication with the government-in-exile was established a few months later, but it was clear that the real command power resided with Samuel Dudley, the leader of the National Front.
The National Front took no time in executing mass sabotage action, even assassinating several high Magarati military commanders until the occupation forces began to execute reprisals upon civilian populations. After that, acts of resistance were mostly focused on destroying infrastructure and command links, though a few abortive attempts to declare "Democratic Republics" in the cities of Arran and Neukassel were made in the early years. These Democratic Republics were quickly crushed by Magarati forces, but the National Front often controlled and even administered large swathes of the countryside at any one time. In order to conduct a wild-goose-chase-esque pursuit of the partisans across the country, the Magarati empire first employed conscripts from San Montagna in the field as surplus manpower. These foreign conscripts, themselves from an occupied country, were not terribly enthused about combating the partisans, and thus more Magarati manpower was drained replacing the conscripts with Magarati troops in an effort to root out partisan activity. This only served to drain Magarati fighting capacity, however, as the partisans would simply shrink into the countryside and continue to lure Magarati patrols into ambushes. By late 1946, the army had become especially weak, and the decision was made to directly revolt and seize all major centers of power. The revolt, staged on November 7, caught the beleaguered Magarati occupiers off-guard. Soon, they were routed, and either were captured or routed north over the Montagnan border by the end of the month. On Christmas Day, 1946, the government-in-exile returned home, and tried to raise a new army from conscripts and former army members in the National Front. The Front, though, had been slowly steeping its members in Communist ideology during the insurrection, and eventually the balance of power from before the war returned. In fact, the new government had simply just been lured back to Brulafi in order to be arrested and put on trial after the coup executed by Dudley known as the Revolution of 1948. Following this, Brulafi becomes the Socialist Republic we know today.
by Athara Magarat » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:40 pm
Brulafi wrote:Okay, so the plan so far is:
Brulafi before the Imperial War was a post-colonial Republic, with most political institutions directly or indirectly controlled by international corporations. The military of Brulafi had fairly modern equipment even up until the late 1930s, but most of it was directed for use against internal threats, and the military was generally woefully unprepared to guard against an external invasion threat. The Brulafi Socialist Worker's Party, founded in 1922, was gaining steady popularity with the lower and middle classes, who felt that their new government was just a new colony of the corporations. Things existed in an unsteady balance, until the government banned the BSWP in 1936. The party went underground, and at times it seemed the country would explode into full revolution as the party began to arm itself for an insurrection against the government and leftist members of the armed forces began to desert. It was in this time of weakness that the Magarati empire found it a perfect time to strike, swarming over the northern border from occupied San Montagna and overruning the nation's military in three weeks. The government of the Republic fled to Miklania to wait out the occupation, while the Socialist Worker's Party took the opportunity to paint itself as the vanguard for the resistance to occupation. Soon the National Front was formed, allying the BSWP with the pre-war Social Democratic Party and former army units that had escaped arrest and disarmament. Tentative communication with the government-in-exile was established a few months later, but it was clear that the real command power resided with Samuel Dudley, the leader of the National Front.
The National Front took no time in executing mass sabotage action, even assassinating several high Magarati military commanders until the occupation forces began to execute reprisals upon civilian populations. After that, acts of resistance were mostly focused on destroying infrastructure and command links, though a few abortive attempts to declare "Democratic Republics" in the cities of Arran and Neukassel were made in the early years. These Democratic Republics were quickly crushed by Magarati forces, but the National Front often controlled and even administered large swathes of the countryside at any one time. In order to conduct a wild-goose-chase-esque pursuit of the partisans across the country, the Magarati empire first employed conscripts from San Montagna in the field as surplus manpower. These foreign conscripts, themselves from an occupied country, were not terribly enthused about combating the partisans, and thus more Magarati manpower was drained replacing the conscripts with Magarati troops in an effort to root out partisan activity. This only served to drain Magarati fighting capacity, however, as the partisans would simply shrink into the countryside and continue to lure Magarati patrols into ambushes. By late 1946, the army had become especially weak, and the decision was made to directly revolt and seize all major centers of power. The revolt, staged on November 7, caught the beleaguered Magarati occupiers off-guard. Soon, they were routed, and either were captured or routed north over the Montagnan border by the end of the month. On Christmas Day, 1946, the government-in-exile returned home, and tried to raise a new army from conscripts and former army members in the National Front. The Front, though, had been slowly steeping its members in Communist ideology during the insurrection, and eventually the balance of power from before the war returned. In fact, the new government had simply just been lured back to Brulafi in order to be arrested and put on trial after the coup executed by Dudley known as the Revolution of 1948. Following this, Brulafi becomes the Socialist Republic we know today.
by Miklania » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:58 am
Athara Magarat wrote:Brulafi wrote:Okay, so the plan so far is:
Brulafi before the Imperial War was a post-colonial Republic, with most political institutions directly or indirectly controlled by international corporations. The military of Brulafi had fairly modern equipment even up until the late 1930s, but most of it was directed for use against internal threats, and the military was generally woefully unprepared to guard against an external invasion threat. The Brulafi Socialist Worker's Party, founded in 1922, was gaining steady popularity with the lower and middle classes, who felt that their new government was just a new colony of the corporations. Things existed in an unsteady balance, until the government banned the BSWP in 1936. The party went underground, and at times it seemed the country would explode into full revolution as the party began to arm itself for an insurrection against the government and leftist members of the armed forces began to desert. It was in this time of weakness that the Magarati empire found it a perfect time to strike, swarming over the northern border from occupied San Montagna and overruning the nation's military in three weeks. The government of the Republic fled to Miklania to wait out the occupation, while the Socialist Worker's Party took the opportunity to paint itself as the vanguard for the resistance to occupation. Soon the National Front was formed, allying the BSWP with the pre-war Social Democratic Party and former army units that had escaped arrest and disarmament. Tentative communication with the government-in-exile was established a few months later, but it was clear that the real command power resided with Samuel Dudley, the leader of the National Front.
The National Front took no time in executing mass sabotage action, even assassinating several high Magarati military commanders until the occupation forces began to execute reprisals upon civilian populations. After that, acts of resistance were mostly focused on destroying infrastructure and command links, though a few abortive attempts to declare "Democratic Republics" in the cities of Arran and Neukassel were made in the early years. These Democratic Republics were quickly crushed by Magarati forces, but the National Front often controlled and even administered large swathes of the countryside at any one time. In order to conduct a wild-goose-chase-esque pursuit of the partisans across the country, the Magarati empire first employed conscripts from San Montagna in the field as surplus manpower. These foreign conscripts, themselves from an occupied country, were not terribly enthused about combating the partisans, and thus more Magarati manpower was drained replacing the conscripts with Magarati troops in an effort to root out partisan activity. This only served to drain Magarati fighting capacity, however, as the partisans would simply shrink into the countryside and continue to lure Magarati patrols into ambushes. By late 1946, the army had become especially weak, and the decision was made to directly revolt and seize all major centers of power. The revolt, staged on November 7, caught the beleaguered Magarati occupiers off-guard. Soon, they were routed, and either were captured or routed north over the Montagnan border by the end of the month. On Christmas Day, 1946, the government-in-exile returned home, and tried to raise a new army from conscripts and former army members in the National Front. The Front, though, had been slowly steeping its members in Communist ideology during the insurrection, and eventually the balance of power from before the war returned. In fact, the new government had simply just been lured back to Brulafi in order to be arrested and put on trial after the coup executed by Dudley known as the Revolution of 1948. Following this, Brulafi becomes the Socialist Republic we know today.
Yep exactly as we planned. Nice.
Miklania, when are the Free Powers supposed to invade Neo-Imperialists in Argus (turning the tide thing)?
by Athara Magarat » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:53 am
Miklania wrote:We haven't gotten to that yet, but 1944 was a good year for invasions.
by Dothrakia » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:16 am
Athara Magarat wrote:Miklania wrote:We haven't gotten to that yet, but 1944 was a good year for invasions.
Sounds good but judging by current numbers, you Free Power folks would be beating our Neo-Imperialist arses in just one year and have nothing to do next
So I presume the invasions are going to start at 1944 but not be that effective early on due to a wide range of factors?
by Athara Magarat » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:51 pm
Dothrakia wrote:
Which invasions are starting in 1944? I thought the timeframe of the war was 43-53
by Miklania » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:06 am
by Athara Magarat » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:58 pm
Miklania wrote:The war will probably end around 1948-9.
by Almorea » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:24 pm
by Dothrakia » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:02 pm
by Miklania » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:32 am
Dothrakia wrote:Are there any Imperial Powers that are going to be using convoys on a regular basis? I have a class of heavy cruiser (verging on battlecruiser) that I had being used as commerce raiders against Flandrian but since he's no longer with us I wanted to see if I could find a replacement.
by Dothrakia » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:52 am
Miklania wrote:Dothrakia wrote:Are there any Imperial Powers that are going to be using convoys on a regular basis? I have a class of heavy cruiser (verging on battlecruiser) that I had being used as commerce raiders against Flandrian but since he's no longer with us I wanted to see if I could find a replacement.
All of them. No one isn't going to be using convoys.
by Tracera » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:42 am
by Dothrakia » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:04 pm
by Miklania » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:54 am
Dothrakia wrote:I know this was mentioned earlier but what're people's thoughts on having one last major battleship engagement? I think it'd be a nice way to send out the old kings of the ocean and usher in the new generation. I didn't necessarily have an idea for a specific time or place but I was thinking maybe when the Free Powers are starting the invasions of the main Imperial strongholds. Something like the Battle of Leyte Gulf like a last ditch effort to destroy the Free Power invasion force intercepted by the battleships that had been handling shore bombardment? LMK what you guys think/ if anyone has an invasion that they think this would work for.
by Polar Svalbard » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:58 am
by Athara Magarat » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:09 pm
Polar Svalbard wrote:Battle of Leyte Gulf anyone
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