The History of the Imperial War (OOC, TWI only)

[Razzgriz]

I have edited the map to reflect some changes (one of them being Myagdi Island - Athara Magarat) including the inclusion of the Osean Empire. There is an extra note for Razzgriz on the topic of his colonies during the war!

Dothrakia, tell me when you are ready to be put on the IW map here and I'll add you.

Miklania, would it be possible to add the map to the OP so that we can have a constant visual reminder of the sides of the war?

The rest of the colonial territory is to become the NPC, well NPC/claimable territory for new players (the region claimed is just a bit too big), I TGed you guys about. I don't mind them not being included on the map at all as I am still working out the Southern Sea Expeditions that created them.

[Noronica]

The rest of the colonial territory is to become the NPC, well NPC/claimable territory for new players (the region claimed is just a bit too big), I TGed you guys about. I don't mind them not being included on the map at all as I am still working out the Southern Sea Expeditions that created them.

Apologies, I should have re-read the telegrams about that! My mistake.

[Dothrakia]

I have edited the map to reflect some changes (one of them being Myagdi Island - Athara Magarat) including the inclusion of the Osean Empire. There is an extra note for Razzgriz on the topic of his colonies during the war!

Dothrakia, tell me when you are ready to be put on the IW map here and I'll add you.

Miklania, would it be possible to add the map to the OP so that we can have a constant visual reminder of the sides of the war?

Im ready to be on the map

[Miklania]

Noronica if you have an updated one send it to me and I'll add it to the OP and dispatch. If you could periodically update them that would be most excellent.

[Noronica]

Im ready to be on the map

Added it to the one I've just sent to Mik!

Noronica if you have an updated one send it to me and I'll add it to the OP and dispatch. If you could periodically update them that would be most excellent.

Sent! I'll try to do so, if another person joins I might wait for a bit for them to flesh out their IW history then I'll add them.

[Dormill and Stiura]

Just looking at that map, D&S is so isolated in the East it would make my participation in the War basically pointless. Even with Western Samudera and Western Orsandia, the Free Powers are just too numerous and spacious.

[Noronica]

Just looking at that map, D&S is so isolated in the East it would make my participation in the War basically pointless. Even with Western Samudera and Western Orsandia, the Free Powers are just too numerous and spacious.

There are ways of getting out of that. Perhaps a Free Power could be neutral or aligned with you in the same manner as Germany/USSR but relations sour later on? Also, the map is awash with red/pink due to colonies, with the support of the other Neo-Imperialists I feel that D&S would have a good chance at survival during the war and perhaps make a push.

Also, the Neo-Imperialists were a lot more ready than the Free Powers for war it seems. With much more funding and preparedness, D&S and the others could strike out swiftly to catch the Free Powers off-guard. Hell, I'll let you occupy Arván for the war if you like. I was interested in having a Dunkirk scenario where Noronica is pushed back only to return later in the war.

On an OOC point, the numbers might change due to new nations or CTEs, if one side is larger than the other it doesn't matter as the numbers are fluctuating in the region.

[Dothrakia]

Just looking at that map, D&S is so isolated in the East it would make my participation in the War basically pointless. Even with Western Samudera and Western Orsandia, the Free Powers are just too numerous and spacious.

There are ways of getting out of that. Perhaps a Free Power could be neutral or aligned with you in the same manner as Germany/USSR but relations sour later on? Also, the map is awash with red/pink due to colonies, with the support of the other Neo-Imperialists I feel that D&S would have a good chance at survival during the war and perhaps make a push.

Also, the Neo-Imperialists were a lot more ready than the Free Powers for war it seems. With much more funding and preparedness, D&S and the others could strike out swiftly to catch the Free Powers off-guard. Hell, I'll let you occupy Arván for the war if you like. I was interested in having a Dunkirk scenario where Noronica is pushed back only to return later in the war.

On an OOC point, the numbers might change due to new nations or CTEs, if one side is larger than the other it doesn't matter as the numbers are fluctuating in the region.

Also on that note of being to Far East, me and the Oseamar Empire were talking about Naval Conflicts in the Eterna Sea, depending on your military size I could see you participating in the defense of Flandrian until they fall (since Flandrian wanted to see his military wiped out I'm assuming he'll be eliminated at some point) at which point me and Noronica (and maybe Oseamar) do an Amphibious landing at the site of the Dunkirk operation

[Razzgriz]

Just looking at that map, D&S is so isolated in the East it would make my participation in the War basically pointless. Even with Western Samudera and Western Orsandia, the Free Powers are just too numerous and spacious.

The OE’s main priority would have been fighting Flandrian’s military mainly due to their rivalry and their overall status as a threat, not only were they imperialistic at the time, but their military’s roots would have been based on the OE’s own and would have been expected to have learned just as much as we did during the previous war.

It wouldn’t make sense given That the “OE” had attacked D&S in the South Sea in 2 wars and D&S not to have a larger naval presence in or have fortified the area. That said, D&S could make a push to threaten the lesser defended Administrative City-States (when I finish there Facebook) and threaten the OE’s vital trade routes in an effort to relieve the pressure on Flandrian.

[Corindia]

Just looking at that map, D&S is so isolated in the East it would make my participation in the War basically pointless. Even with Western Samudera and Western Orsandia, the Free Powers are just too numerous and spacious.

I'm kind of seeing the same issue, unless Corindia decides to up and invade someone, there isn't too too much to do in my backyard

[Corindia]

Just looking at that map, D&S is so isolated in the East it would make my participation in the War basically pointless. Even with Western Samudera and Western Orsandia, the Free Powers are just too numerous and spacious.

There are ways of getting out of that. Perhaps a Free Power could be neutral or aligned with you in the same manner as Germany/USSR but relations sour later on? Also, the map is awash with red/pink due to colonies, with the support of the other Neo-Imperialists I feel that D&S would have a good chance at survival during the war and perhaps make a push.

Oh that's not too bad of an option, Corindia was leaning pretty communist at that point (but like, Republican Spain more than USSR yanno). We could start allied w DS and then flip or something? I'd have to look more at the situation though

[Dothrakia]

What about using Charbagnia (NPC) as an Imperial? Makes things more interesting in that section of the region.

[Dormill and Stiura]

So I've been sitting here and having a gander at the map, and I thought of something that I should have realized earlier, I can be the Japan of this entire conflict, taking over a big chunk of the eastern end of the Isles before stagnating in the face of a Navy it can't best, in this case the Noronnican.

So basically I'd have a big armed forces just before the start of the war, gathering "allies" that are willing to fight against Noronica as well, but being ultimately separate from most of the fighting in the west.

[Corindia]

So I've been sitting here and having a gander at the map, and I thought of something that I should have realized earlier, I can be the Japan of this entire conflict, taking over a big chunk of the eastern end of the Isles before stagnating in the face of a Navy it can't best, in this case the Noronnican.

So basically I'd have a big armed forces just before the start of the war, gathering "allies" that are willing to fight against Noronica as well, but being ultimately separate from most of the fighting in the west.

ah, I was pretty in Noro's pocket maybe a decade before so I can't justify the flippity flop so much

[Noronica]

What about using Charbagnia (NPC) as an Imperial? Makes things more interesting in that section of the region.

WHAT?!

Charbagnia is, at that time, a dominion of the Noronnican Empire. It would not make sense for it to suddenly flop as after Athara Magarat’s rebellion, Noronica clamps down on all of its colonies. While I agree that more Neo-Imperialists is good, I could not hand over Charbagnia unless it is occupied.

So I've been sitting here and having a gander at the map, and I thought of something that I should have realized earlier, I can be the Japan of this entire conflict, taking over a big chunk of the eastern end of the Isles before stagnating in the face of a Navy it can't best, in this case the Noronnican.

So basically I'd have a big armed forces just before the start of the war, gathering "allies" that are willing to fight against Noronica as well, but being ultimately separate from most of the fighting in the west.

Perfect! I can roll with that, especially as it gives us interesting options before you stagnation. Perhaps the aforementioned occupation of Arván turns into an example of the war in the Pacific as Noronica fights tooth and nail with D&S to regain it.

ah, I was pretty in Noro's pocket maybe a decade before so I can't justify the flippity flop so much

I suppose you could break the deal we made for the Great Gael War but then relations today would perhaps not be as good as they are.

Perhaps Corindia does flip by breaking the deal to join the imperialists at the beginning before changing sides mid-war?

[Dothrakia]

What about using Charbagnia (NPC) as an Imperial? Makes things more interesting in that section of the region.

WHAT?!

Charbagnia is, at that time, a dominion of the Noronnican Empire. It would not make sense for it to suddenly flop as after Athara Magarat’s rebellion, Noronica clamps down on all of its colonies. While I agree that more Neo-Imperialists is good, I could not hand over Charbagnia unless it is occupied.

So I've been sitting here and having a gander at the map, and I thought of something that I should have realized earlier, I can be the Japan of this entire conflict, taking over a big chunk of the eastern end of the Isles before stagnating in the face of a Navy it can't best, in this case the Noronnican.

So basically I'd have a big armed forces just before the start of the war, gathering "allies" that are willing to fight against Noronica as well, but being ultimately separate from most of the fighting in the west.

Perfect! I can roll with that, especially as it gives us interesting options before you stagnation. Perhaps the aforementioned occupation of Arván turns into an example of the war in the Pacific as Noronica fights tooth and nail with D&S to regain it.

ah, I was pretty in Noro's pocket maybe a decade before so I can't justify the flippity flop so much

I suppose you could break the deal we made for the Great Gael War but then relations today would perhaps not be as good as they are.

Perhaps Corindia does flip by breaking the deal to join the imperialists at the beginning before changing sides mid-war?

Oh sorry did not see them on the map as a free power thats my and I was looking at the regular map looking for NPCS

[Corindia]

Perhaps Corindia does flip by breaking the deal to join the imperialists at the beginning before changing sides mid-war?

nah, that's getting pretty contrived, especially when Corindi politics don't really favor a break with the free powers all that much.
I think Corindia will just play it straight w the free powers for the duration

[Samudera]

So I've been sitting here and having a gander at the map, and I thought of something that I should have realized earlier, I can be the Japan of this entire conflict, taking over a big chunk of the eastern end of the Isles before stagnating in the face of a Navy it can't best, in this case the Noronnican.

So basically I'd have a big armed forces just before the start of the war, gathering "allies" that are willing to fight against Noronica as well, but being ultimately separate from most of the fighting in the west.

You could've invaded the newly independent east Samudera, as in 1940 there was a fascist coup who were eager to retake west Samudera. Kinda a preemptive attack that ended in a full occupation since my military was (and is still) a joke.

A liberation by the Osean could be possible too later in the half end of the war, if no one objected.

[Negarakita]

So I've been sitting here and having a gander at the map, and I thought of something that I should have realized earlier, I can be the Japan of this entire conflict, taking over a big chunk of the eastern end of the Isles before stagnating in the face of a Navy it can't best, in this case the Noronnican.

So basically I'd have a big armed forces just before the start of the war, gathering "allies" that are willing to fight against Noronica as well, but being ultimately separate from most of the fighting in the west.

You could've invaded the newly independent east Samudera, as in 1940 there was a fascist coup who were eager to retake west Samudera. Kinda a preemptive attack that ended in a full occupation since my military was (and is still) a joke.

A liberation by the Osean could be possible too later in the half end of the war, if no one objected.

Don't y'all invade me?

[Dothrakia]

You could've invaded the newly independent east Samudera, as in 1940 there was a fascist coup who were eager to retake west Samudera. Kinda a preemptive attack that ended in a full occupation since my military was (and is still) a joke.

A liberation by the Osean could be possible too later in the half end of the war, if no one objected.

Don't y'all invade me?

Yea I think me and Osean would probably liberate you seeing as we'd most likely be your closest (geographical) allies.

[Samudera]

You could've invaded the newly independent east Samudera, as in 1940 there was a fascist coup who were eager to retake west Samudera. Kinda a preemptive attack that ended in a full occupation since my military was (and is still) a joke.

A liberation by the Osean could be possible too later in the half end of the war, if no one objected.

Don't y'all invade me?

Nah, change of plans. Fascist invading its neighbours is too cliché. This way, my country would be spared of outright destruction, and the idea of Union of Sanggar might be voiced in this period, since all of our territories are under Dorm's.

[Cheoju]

Is this still Open? I know i'm a little late to the party but with Cheoju being a part of the Oseamar empire it wouldn't make sense for them to be "invisble" during this period.

[Belle Ilse en Terre]

Is this still Open? I know i'm a little late to the party but with Cheoju being a part of the Oseamar empire it wouldn't make sense for them to be "invisble" during this period.

Yes, it is still open. Welcome!

[Polar Svalbard]

I love the way this map looks. It definitely will create a war that will be looked upon for a long time. The Neo-Imperialists will definitely have a strong base of power. Biggest front of the war will probably be the Almorean front, likely with a large amount of Svalbardian troops there as well.

Likely a large amount of sea battles in the northern seas between Nostham forces and Svalbardian (hopefully with help from Domanarian fleets), hell some of the Svalbardian islands might even be captured.

Altera will probably be under occupation for awhile with that probably being a major battle later on. The Canal will also obviously fall into Imperialist hands quickly. Likely see sea battles between DS and Noronica, especially as Arvan would fall quickly.

Flandrian might fall quickly depending on how well Dothrakia fights, and if so they'd likely be out of the war quickly and for its entirety as the Neo-Imperialists would likely be focused elsewhere.

I'm excited.

[Alteran Republics]

Altera will probably be under occupation for awhile with that probably being a major battle later on. The Canal will also obviously fall into Imperialist hands quickly. Likely see sea battles between DS and Noronica, especially as Arvan would fall quickly.

Really depends on how Keipan wants to play it. There wouldn't, and still isn't, many road or rail routes in the south of Altera - so pushing forward a mechanized force would be slow and painful, but allow for defensive choke points along the near-coastal roads.

Regardless, I'm under no illusion that fighting in Altera will be fierce. I'm envisioning a slow, drawn out version of the Singapore campaign - where Alterans are slowly pushed back towards the capital and then the Albion/Balkwark islands before a heavy Noronican force arrives to bolster Altera's defences and possibly open up a new front. As Keipan pushes north into Altera, their logistics would be stretched and bottlenecked along the congested coastal roads - making them vulnerable to guerilla and air attacks.