The 3rd Great War between Nations [OPEN|MT]

[Volcanu]

After winning the Piethrixia war, Volcanu decides to attack the Titan Republic and help the Allies. 10 carrier ships warp into orbit around a Titan and start to orbital bombard with thermonuclear weapons.

[South Acren]

All space fleets (A total of 590 ships) are being sent to reinforce the Volcanu and Greater Catarapainian fleets and are authorized to shoot any enemy ships that dare attack our allies. On board the ships a message is sent to The Titan Republic to comply or face destruction.

[Greater Catarapania]

OOC: deploying forces takes time. While your ships can be coming hot on the heels of mine, I think it's only fair for the Republicans to be able to decide how they deal with my "first division" before your ships can be brought to bear. It's not like anybody but Piethrixia had working FTL. Which means that we're all pretty much limited to 3g brachistochrones at best. Odds are that we'll usually have to settle for less speedy trajectories, either due to lack of thrust or lack of delta-vee. In all probability, typical trip times will take days or weeks. The Republicans will have made their decisions less than an hour after my ships enter Titan orbit.

[Greater Catarapania]

Analysis of Volcanu will have to wait, but I was able to put this together.

2 space stations are sent to Saturn and Uranus, and are working on collecting gases from the atmospheres such as H2, 3He, Tritium, Methane, and Ammonia. They are also working on creating new materials from these gases and collecting data on their moons.

Both are fueled on Nuclear Fusion.

Rakdains have colonized Titan and Enceladus in the Saturnian system. Despite being opponents in the last war, they ask for an alliance with Piethrixia, giving them access to the outer solar system and a trade center on Ganymede.

The Oort wall is almost done, a network of military bases in the Oort cloud, with high-speed autonomous magnetic beam cannons that cause ships to crumple, denying access for other nations to leave the solar system.

15 orbital missiles detach and fly over Catarapania. They emitt a magnetic shield that blocks almost all anti-missile weapons. They dispense a corrosive gas over the ports on Catarapania's southern coast, heavily damaging ships, docks, and infastucture, but the only casulties are from collapsing buildings and sinking ships. Half of the main ports on the coast are inoperable to some degree.

AA guns and SAMS are set up all over Rakdai. An invasion force of 20 million is stationed on Casvania's border, and a defense force of 10 million is staioned in south Rakdai, and 50 million in Main Rakdai.

IC: The military labs in Rakadi are breeding a genetically altered mite that has a bite that can cause the neurons in the brain to proccess nonessential information incorrectly, leading to bad descisions.

The 2nd and 5th Rakdaic Fleets are sent to the northern coast of Casvania, a total of 50 destroyers, 20 battleships, 10 drone carriers, 40 submarines, 4 dreadnoughts, and 2 missile carriers, along with 80 oilers and cargo ships and 30 troop carriers.

The Fleet at the Northern coast of Casvania is using a technique against the Casvanian Fleet by using ADS (Riot-Control Heat Rays) to clear the top decks and therefore most of the cannons, and then flooding the ship with a gas that causes immense irritation on the skin, picking up the fleeing sailors on frigates, and stealing the ship. The strategy minimizes causulties, but is very slow and expensive, yet effective.

An attack force of 10 million and 300 M46A3 Ravager tanks head for the capital of Grand Republic of Titan, covered by 5 Heavy Crusiers and 10 Arrowheads

An EMP shield envelopes our army, disabling drones and misslies as they come.

5 light cruisers drop a fast oxidization catalyst, that starts eating through the military bases of Grand Republic of Titan.

15 Arrowhead-class ships are readied.

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The Arrowhead is a half-kilometer space warship that has a tall, thin front and a slim round back. It has only a few cannons, but is very fast, has a relatively strong tractor beam, and is constantly surrounded by thousands of small drones that work as cannon fodder. When in battle, the front half becomes superheated, enough to slice a ship in half. The Tooth and Nail is a specialized 15 kilometer long ship with spires that open up and can stab multiple ships at a time.

The full Rakdaic fleet is prepped to launch from the Oort cloud.

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The fleet: 80 Arrowheads, 50 boarding ships, 40 destroyers, 30 frigates, 20 carriers, 15 cruisers, 5 dreadnoughts, the Tooth and Nail, and the Kerberos, which is the Emperor's ship that has a magnetic laser that can generate a magnetic field up to a trillion (although usually a billion) times stonger than Earth's. It can easily fry any ship on a lower setting, or crush a ship to the size of a soccer ball on a higher setting

Rakdai is clearly in the top echelon of the Allies militarily speaking. The ground forces on Earth total up to at least eighty million, the navy has hundreds of ships at its disposal, and the Astry isn't much smaller. With the exception of Earth, most Rakdaic assets are in the outer Solar System. The Astry is currently on the move inwards from the Kuiper Belt, and the skies above Titan are currently something of a Charlie Foxtrot, with four polities belonging to three different "sides" currently involved there.

Rakdai has a notable taste for "unconventional" weapons. This means anything from WMDs (especially non-lethal chemical and biological weapons) to crowd control devices to rams on spaceships. Most of these are quite effective, and about as humane as any weapon can be, but some are somewhat... boondoggly. I mean, at standard interplanetary velocities and distances, ramming is just not a good idea.

That being said, Rakdaic tactics and weapons seem mostly solid. That, combined with the size of their forces, makes them an extremely valuable addition to the Alliance.

[Grand Republic of Titan]

OOC: deploying forces takes time. While your ships can be coming hot on the heels of mine, I think it's only fair for the Republicans to be able to decide how they deal with my "first division" before your ships can be brought to bear. It's not like anybody but Piethrixia had working FTL. Which means that we're all pretty much limited to 3g brachistochrones at best. Odds are that we'll usually have to settle for less speedy trajectories, either due to lack of thrust or lack of delta-vee. In all probability, typical trip times will take days or weeks. The Republicans will have made their decisions less than an hour after my ships enter Titan orbit.

OOC: Thank you very much for this, I was wondering about the sudden 100:1 (The force multiplier that is FTL might as well make it 100 000:1) ratio of friendly to hostile forces in orbit, especially since just a few days ago, I was being yelled at for having the gall to possess a mere thirty-two vessels, and was effectively forced to reduce it to a mighty twelve. Regardless, those of you who are looking to attack me, do remember that such a maneuver will take a few days at the absolute least unless you have a base somewhere around Saturn with your ships in it.

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High Orbit, Titan
GRTN Right to Be

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The Titanian fleet was faced with rather difficult odds. A five to one numerical disadvantage was difficult to pull a proper victory out of, but that wouldn't stop Gutiérrez from trying. After all, he was the only deployed fleet at present, and with the Catarapanian fleets bearing down on Titan, reinforcements from the Daeyong rings were a mere pipe dream now. The missiles that had been launched earlier were sent an order to flip shortly after they passed by Division One, and burn at full speed once again toward the rear of the vessels. This occurred at the same time as the Titanian fleet burning ahead toward Division One at full speed, letting loose with more missiles at a closer range, while also firing upon enemy point defense mountings using their pulsed laser cannons, preparing railgun targeting solutions for when the enemy fleet was within a thousand kilometers.

On the ground, anti-orbital lasers periodically lanced up at the descending Catarapanian ships in their orbits, though without the enemy dipping down for bombardment, such strikes would hardly be at their full destructive potential. It was as lasers flashed outside heralding the uncomfortable nearness of enemy ships that the president composed another letter to the Rakdaians.

TO: Koalin Krai
FROM: Jung-Min Solano

At the very minimum, we require complete ownership Titan. Considering that it is merely one world out of dozens in the lunar system, each with enough water and fuel to supply your own needs for centuries, this is hardly a weighty price. When there is an entire solar system off of our ground for you to take, it is absurd to consider that missing one moon out of all that real estate would really harm you that much. We would implore you to be reasonable, and allow us to retain our homeland, while we interfere not with your territories that remain millions of kilometers away. This holds especially true considering that what we asked in our second offer was far less than you would have given us in your first, in terms of overall resource gains. This is not asked out of greed, but out of patriotism. The nation eagerly awaits your response, as do I.

[South Acren]

OOC: deploying forces takes time. While your ships can be coming hot on the heels of mine, I think it's only fair for the Republicans to be able to decide how they deal with my "first division" before your ships can be brought to bear. It's not like anybody but Piethrixia had working FTL. Which means that we're all pretty much limited to 3g brachistochrones at best. Odds are that we'll usually have to settle for less speedy trajectories, either due to lack of thrust or lack of delta-vee. In all probability, typical trip times will take days or weeks. The Republicans will have made their decisions less than an hour after my ships enter Titan orbit.

Just saying I knew that, why do you think I didn't say that they were already attacking. They a currently traveling towards your location to keep an eye on things. I just don't add too much description in my posts. But I'm still sending them just in case things get "hairy"

[Greater Catarapania]

Admiral Sheng received the most recent tactical report with a measure of surprise. Admiral Sheng had made a point of giving the Republicans the opportunity to back down or flee. Instead, they had pressed the attack against a force some four times larger than their own. "This Gutierrez fellow has balls of steel, I'll give 'im that! Agamemnon, tell Division One to enter loose formation. They don't have enough cruisers to ensure hard kills on all enemy assets, so I want them focusing on soft kills. I want those missiles flying blind, as well as the enemy warships if at all possible. Having a diffuse formation will make it more difficult for those missiles to score kills on inertial guidance and stored memory alone."

The AI that was the cruiser Agamemnon answered with a tactical suggestion. "I would recommend that cruisers in Divisions Two and Three with suitable orbits are to increase their eccentricities, bringing them closer to the Republican fleet."

"Why? It's not like they'll be able to get close enough to burn through anything."

"We won't be close enough to do anything more than damage, but we can fry sensors and cut into their heat budgets."

"Very well. Append that to the orders."

"Yes Admiral."

"Oh, and tell the destroyers to aim for propulsion and high-temperature radiators. If we can take out their weapons and drives without killing them, that would be a good thing. Live prisoners tend to be worth more than clouds of diffuse vapor or corpsicles."

"I'll prepare the brig for guests. Are we going for 'hotel that happens to be owned by the enemy,' or 'your worst nightmare distilled into living quarters?'"

"The former. We'd need permission from Terra to do the latter, and the good Generalisimo isn't the type to approve of such methods without firm evidence of war crimes."

"So your desire to share a drink and possibly a fist fight with their commanding officer has nothing to do with it?"

"No, but I won't pretend that I'd be upset with that sort of outcome. These rebels have shown far more tactical and strategic ability than the Piethrixians did. I can't help but respect that."

"Indeed."

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The constellation seems to swell as the warships get their orders. Cruisers fire at long range, blinding sensors and delivering heat to missiles and warships alike. Destroyers hold their missile fire for the 1,000 km mark. When that mark is reached, all fifty will empty their magazines into the incoming fleet, aiming primarily for the engines and high-temperature (and thus non-life-support-related) radiators. One transmission is sent to the Republican fleet:

"You have fought well, but you're outnumbered. There is no terrain, no choke point, no hope to take us by surprise; only pure Lanchestrian attrition. Assuming you fight to the death, odds are you'll only be able to destroy three or so of our ships. Your contribution to your cause if you take the heroic last stand route will be negligible, whereas if you survive you may prove to be of use to your countrymen in some future conflict. Perhaps you want to go down in the annals of history with Leonidas and William Travis, and if so, we cannot blame you. But weigh the manifest value of your own skill against the potential morale value of a last stand, and think carefully about which would be better for your people. Surrender and we will ensure that you live. Continue to resist, and we can make no such promises.

Respectfully,
Admiral Sheng Chien of the Catarapanian Astry."

[Ruso-Germania]

We have decided to join the Axis.

[Piethrixia]

After winning the Piethrixia war, Volcanu decides to attack the Titan Republic and help the Allies. 10 carrier ships warp into orbit around a Titan and start to orbital bombard with thermonuclear weapons.

Just want to say YOU DID NOT WIN. Nobody did.

[Eastern Kodiak]

IC: After the recent allies fighting we will send our Ceres Regiment (Allies can see how large it is on my factbook) to attack Titain in order to make a faster approach we will make a gravity assist with Jupiter and set Crouse to Titain this will take 4 days

[Greater Catarapania]

After winning the Piethrixia war, Volcanu decides to attack the Titan Republic and help the Allies. 10 carrier ships warp into orbit around a Titan and start to orbital bombard with thermonuclear weapons.

Just want to say YOU DID NOT WIN. Nobody did.

We compromised your landing castles so severely that you had to abandon the earthbound ones and withdraw the rest to Mars.

Your later invasion forces were battered and forced to retreat by Alliance fleets.

And, since you never adequately dealt with the whole "150 kt TNT equivalent kinetic strike against the Dexterity while the Emperor was aboard" issue (though, to give you credit, you did fix the idiotic bridge design), it's probably safe to assume that we took out your head of state to boot.

Your invasion is halted, your fleet is in shambles, you have a major crisis of succession on your hands, and - instead of finding a way to role play out of the situation - you decided to bow out of the scenario. We achieved our objectives and prevented you from achieving yours. So yeah, we did win, thank you very much.

[Rakdai]

Kaolin Krai refuses the GRTN's request. "I offered them a perfectly reasonable request, and they kept on pushing it. I was lenient at first, but they kept pushing it. We will not accept surrender from them if their leader comes and grovels at my feet. WE ARE DONE FOOLING AROUND!"

Orbital batteries begin firing canisters filled with liquid dioxygen difluoride at the GRTN's military bases. The graphene starts to burn, leaving the bases exposed to the second round.

OOC: And GRTN, graphene will burn if you heat it up enough, just like diamond, another unreactive pure-carbon material.

Goodbye

[Grand Republic of Titan]

OOC: Well, y'all got me. There are very few things that don't react with FOOF, and graphene is not one of them. Nice job finding that one. In space, I was bested by a player who I honestly believe has a better understanding of orbital mechanics than I do, and I would be happy to roleplay with again at a later date.

Some things to note for you folks though. You may not want to label a thread which has players chasing one another across the solar system with antimatter and FTL as "MT", that tends to confuse folks. Unrelated, but naval designations are different from national acronyms, and GRTN refers to the navy rather than the nation, kinda like how USS refers to United States Ship, rather than the United States. Unrelated yet again, but compromise is worth trying, rather than spastically focusing on having one world when the nation in question would rather have that than the half lunar system they were offered.

[Greater Catarapania]

OOC: as I presume that I am the player who quote-unquote "bested you in space," I think a few things bear remembering. First and foremost, I had nine times as many warships in the theatre as you did, and I was able to bring half of them to bear on your force in the final battle. I didn't best you. Lanchester did.

If we look at tactics, my fleet deployment basically reduces to a bastardized "fire and maneuver" gambit dressed up in the terminology of orbital mechanics. Did I manage to give a reasonable picture of what "naval" tactics might look like in the space environment? I think I did, and you would seem to agree. But it's not like I managed to do anything creative.

By contrast, your reaction to my initial deployment - "He chose all three" has to be my favorite line from this entire RP - was a rather impressive piece of lateral thinking. By my reckoning, you are certainly nothing less than my equal in tactics, and I would not be in the least surprised if you turned out to be my superior. In short, I have enjoyed this interaction as well, and would look forward to a future RP with you should the occasion arise.

[Rakdai]

OOC: If you want, I can start a new thread about the Saturnian War. Honestly, I like a mix between hard and soft. I hated that in the last war, Piethrixia nuked everybody they could. I hated that so many people used antimatter too much. That is the reason I like unconventual methods of warfare, it provides so many ways for you to RP without going overboard and nuking everybody.

The Saturnian War will probably be less sci-fi than this one, to keep nations like Piethrixia out, and I wouldn't allow things like ALDNOAH, just because it's incredibly vague. I'll also try to encourage variety in the RP.

I'll also try to type posts more like short stories, like Greater Catarpania and Grand Republic of Titan.

Also, I have very little clue about physics in space like you do, but random Wikipedia searches on experimental weapons is part of the reason why I like unconventual methods of warfare so much, other than the reason above.

[Grand Republic of Titan]

OOC: Nah, it's good. I'd originally planned this nation for a closed canon thing anyway, I'm just experimenting with using it outside of that while I wait for other players to figure out their own concepts. I appreciate the offer though.

[The Smithtonian States]

With Piethrixia's exit from the war, Stanton sighs. "Call off the assassination of Jacobus. Thank god we didn't have to do that...."

[South Acren]

We have decided to join the Axis.

IC: A messenger bursts into President Eisenhower's office waving a paper. "Sir I have news for you! Another country has joined the Axis Powers!" The president reads the paper and smiles. "A new enemy to face. Hopefully they know what they are doing. Call the space fleets back to earth. Good thing they stopped somewhere around Mars instead of going all the way to Titan. Send 15 spies into Ruso-Germany to keep an eye on things." The messenger salutes and replies"Yessir"

[Casvania]

OOC- Perhaps an analysis of Casvania or Smithtonia, perchance?

[Azorai]

Azorai, seeing his neighbor Rakdai turn to the allies, is in shock, and sends an attack force of 10 million across the border.

[Volcanu]

Volcanu sends a fleet of 20 plasma dreadnaughts to assist Rakdai in the war.

[Rakdai]

Volcanu sends a fleet of 20 plasma dreadnaughts to assist Rakdai in the war.

OOC: Volcanu, you are starting to get too OP. Turn it down a little bit. We don't need them.

IC: Rakdai counterattacks with a force of 15 million, and they form a defensive position.

Kaolin Krai asks the am ambassador for Azorai to come meet him.

[Volcanu]

Volcanu sends a fleet of 20 plasma dreadnaughts to assist Rakdai in the war.

OOC: Volcanu, you are starting to get too OP. Turn it down a little bit. We don't need them.

IC: Rakdai counterattacks with a force of 15 million, and they form a defensive position.

Kaolin Krai asks the am ambassador for Azorai to come meet him.

OOC: ok

[Azorai]

Azorai refuses the offer by Rakdai

[Greater Catarapania]

"Ambassador Williams! How does it feel to be back in the Embassy?"

"It's good to be back, Chancellor."

"So, I heard that there's a scuffle of some kind going on the Azoraian border."

"Nothing we can't deal with, Chancellor Davis."

"Of course not, of course not. But Emperor Krai has not officially withdrawn from the Alliance, so I feel bound to offer aid."

"With all due respect, Chancellor, I'm not sure how much help you would be. Our ground forces number in the tens of millions, while Catarapania has only two full brigades. Your soldiers have extremely impressive training, and they are quite well equipped, but you just don't have enough of them to make a serious difference in this conflict."

"True, true. However, if you gave us permission to deploy the Swarm on the border, and we worked your soldiers into its network, its C4ISTAR and electronic warfare capabilities would probably complement the Emperor's taste for exotic weaponry quite nicely."

"...Ah, I see. I'll contact the Empire and see how they feel about that."

"Send the Emperor my regards!"

"I will, Chancellor."