MindWalker Civil-War (MT, OOC, Closed)

[The Black Hand of Nod]

I don't see any land of Kafka, that is coastal.

Unless you mean that island?

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Yeah I was kind of confused there too, among other issues with the post, least you were able to work it out.

Also Nod might set up a strong presence in the Han territory that Vixen didn't swoop in to take, if only to serve as a buffer zone against attacks from the north and a retreat of last resort if the war goes horribly.

Also I might have hit Reich a little too hard.

[The 4th August Regime of Greece]

Correct me if I am wrong but is MindWalker and island like continent? If it is then I am talking about the coastlines of Boris's territory up to the tip of Kafka territory at the North East. Approximately starting from the North Easter Part of Kafka territory (that province with a little "x") to the 578 province of the Kaiser. That is where the minor port was located. My ships in port are located in the Northern part of the Kafka province with the little "x".

If you have trouble understanding what I am saying please reply to this post.

[Vadia]

Correct me if I am wrong but is MindWalker and island like continent? If it is then I am talking about the coastlines of Boris's territory up to the tip of Kafka territory at the North East. Approximately starting from the North Easter Part of Kafka territory (that province with a little "x") to the 578 province of the Kaiser. That is where the minor port was located. My ships in port are located in the Northern part of the Kafka province with the little "x".

If you have trouble understanding what I am saying please reply to this post.

You might want to just use the island.

[The 4th August Regime of Greece]

Fine. Just a few more question. Was that map there the whole time? And is that island a territory of the Kafka?

I will also change my attack to a small port of the coast of the Kaiser controlled province in 2229.

[Vadia]

Fine. Just a few more question. Was that map there the whole time? And is that island a territory of the Kafka?

I will also change my attack to a small port of the coast of the Kaiser controlled province in 2229.

I didn't expect much outside of MindWalker to matter, and I thought it made clear on the previous map that only Kaiser has serious coastline or even any coastline.

Yes, the Island belongs to Kafka.

[Rhodokan Republic]

there was a larger map? XD Geez now i have some context and actually see what mind walker looks like in comparison to everything else!

[Nyevzky]

however, the Minister of Foreign Affairs continues to press the Kaiser so that Nyevzky can appropriate the prisoners of war, demanding that initially, only some prisoners be handed over.

Until finally...

Will an agreement be reached?

[The Black Hand of Nod]

Fine. Just a few more question. Was that map there the whole time? And is that island a territory of the Kafka?

I will also change my attack to a small port of the coast of the Kaiser controlled province in 2229.

I didn't expect much outside of MindWalker to matter, and I thought it made clear on the previous map that only Kaiser has serious coastline or even any coastline.

Yes, the Island belongs to Kafka.

Well that just made the Black Hand's job a whole lot easier on how they got supplies into the country, if they used the island as a waypoint and then when through Yeren airspace for a quick dash they could avoid Kaiser territory.

Also expect Nod to turn that 4 lane part of the Han road into a second airstrip once they get the majority of their troops across, it'll also be how they'll be resupplying their forces enroute.

Also if you need a color for Nod instead of White, I'd suggest a Cadet Gray color or some sort of light gray.

[Vadia]

I didn't expect much outside of MindWalker to matter, and I thought it made clear on the previous map that only Kaiser has serious coastline or even any coastline.

Yes, the Island belongs to Kafka.

Well that just made the Black Hand's job a whole lot easier on how they got supplies into the country, if they used the island as a waypoint and then when through Yeren airspace for a quick dash they could avoid Kaiser territory.

Also expect Nod to turn that 4 lane part of the Han road into a second airstrip once they get the majority of their troops across, it'll also be how they'll be resupplying their forces enroute.

Also if you need a color for Nod instead of White, I'd suggest a Cadet Gray color or some sort of light gray.

Most groups fly their stuff in from the north.

[The Black Hand of Nod]

Most groups fly their stuff in from the north.

That's why I stuck my airbase in the most Northeast part of Mindwalker.
Anyway this still gives me options for naval resupply now.

Nyevzky can you respond to my post soonish?

[Nyevzky]

Most groups fly their stuff in from the north.

That's why I stuck my airbase in the most Northeast part of Mindwalker.
Anyway this still gives me options for naval resupply now.

Nyevzky can you respond to my post soonish?

I'll do it today, as fast as I can.

Vadia, can I know your answer ?, so I can introduce it in my next message.

[Vadia]

That's why I stuck my airbase in the most Northeast part of Mindwalker.
Anyway this still gives me options for naval resupply now.

Nyevzky can you respond to my post soonish?

I'll do it today, as fast as I can.

Vadia, can I know your answer ?, so I can introduce it in my next message.

Answer to what?

[The Black Hand of Nod]

I'll do it today, as fast as I can.

Vadia, can I know your answer ?, so I can introduce it in my next message.

Answer to what?

If they'll ever cave to letting Nyevzky appropriate POWs I think.

[Vadia]

Answer to what?

If they'll ever cave to letting Nyevzky appropriate POWs I think.

I thought my post said loudly and proudly, no?

[The Black Hand of Nod]

If they'll ever cave to letting Nyevzky appropriate POWs I think.

I thought my post said loudly and proudly, no?

Apparently Nyevzky seemed to think it was up for debate, glad we cleared that up.

And I'm just going to assume that Reich's main fleet turned away from reinforcing the Kaiser because it didn't want to eat missile spam and that they might try again later.

I'll try to have a response for EE in my next post.

[Vadia]

Let's pause things till fourth august posts, at least for two or three days. I'll be posting then, or when they post, whichever comes first.

[The Evan Empire]

I'll try to have a response for EE in my next post.

Good stuff, just a heads up theEE forces are probably going to be at a higher alert to possible threats after what happened to RR.

[The Black Hand of Nod]

I'll try to have a response for EE in my next post.

Good stuff, just a heads up theEE forces are probably going to be at a higher alert to possible threats after what happened to RR.

Yeah, this was mostly a decapitation strike on RR for their arrogance, quite frankly by all accounts he should have several damaged ships, which I think I'll wait for Reich to either give a passing reason for why you can shoot down 400+ missiles with no damage and literally seconds of forewarning, especially since nod uses anti-ship missiles that don't require active homing. Really I think it was a good trade off, the only thing I really lost of value was the arsenal tanker and I have plenty of those.

Let's pause things till fourth august posts, at least for two or three days. I'll be posting then, or when they post, whichever comes first.

I'll see if I can ask him to post.

[The Evan Empire]

Yeah, this was mostly a decapitation strike on RR for their arrogance, quite frankly by all accounts he should have several damaged ships, which I think I'll wait for Reich to either give a passing reason for why you can shoot down 400+ missiles with no damage and literally seconds of forewarning, especially since nod uses anti-ship missiles that don't require active homing. Really I think it was a good trade off, the only thing I really lost of value was the arsenal tanker and I have plenty of those.

Yeah 400+ missiles is a lot to repel especially at the short ranges required to detect and fire upon the RR ships. But maybe they had some suspisicions after the submarine encounter and then detecting some ships vectoring towards them

[The Black Hand of Nod]

Yeah, this was mostly a decapitation strike on RR for their arrogance, quite frankly by all accounts he should have several damaged ships, which I think I'll wait for Reich to either give a passing reason for why you can shoot down 400+ missiles with no damage and literally seconds of forewarning, especially since nod uses anti-ship missiles that don't require active homing. Really I think it was a good trade off, the only thing I really lost of value was the arsenal tanker and I have plenty of those.

Yeah 400+ missiles is a lot to repel especially at the short ranges required to detect and fire upon the RR ships. But maybe they had some suspicions after the submarine encounter and then detecting some ships vectoring towards them

They didn't, that's the entire reason they attacked, they promptly assumed that the cargo ships weren't a threat and began drawing down their threat level and their defenses, I caught them with their pants down. I'm just going to assume there's quite a few damaged support ships and his carrier might be down some planes. It's highly likely the Exocets were taken out but the naval strike missile is designed to be good against countermeasures and very evasive, only disadvantage is it's range, speed, and warhead size which is why the Black Hand uses it in an ambush role in large scale salvos.

[Jong Un]

Nation Name: Jong Un
Government Type (Democracy, Monarchy, Republic, Confederation): Dictatorship
National Leader(s): Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un II
Economy Type (Capitalist, Social Democratic, Socialist, Mixed, State Capitalist): Capitalist
Religion Type (Athiest, Secular/No State Religion, Catholic, Orthadox): Atheism
Racial Type (German, Russian, Both, Neither): Korean.
Link to Military Factbook or something Similiar: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=jong_un/detail=factbook/id=759083
Caliber used on Service Rifle: 7.62x39mm fired from the Jong Unian JU-17 assault rifle. Secondary firearm is the 45 ACP JU-1911.
Approx Population: 3.2 billion
Understanding of Military Weapons or Tactics out of Five Stars? Five my military has survived many travesties and is the main peacekeeping force of my region. I also partake in milsim which I have been doing for the past 4 years.
Military Service Branches: Army, Navy, Air Force, SGASF (secret government approved special forces
Reason For Involvement: provide a invading force for a nation that wants my help, I'm undecided who I'm going to work with so I will let others seek my help.

[Vadia]

I want to skip two and a half weeks, since most battles are resolved, and neither side can do much to each other, till they unload 1.5 more divisions. This will put us at week three since we started, and since some of us started deploying on day one, we'll have deployed forces during "week zero". Both sides if mobilized, would have something close to ten loose divisions that might be on call by then, and that means they would be available to deploy to defend along the borders.

Each faction should have at least a division deployed by then, even the newer players, so we'll be in a position where almost all of us can act and effect things.

Obviously, I am counting on you to resolve your diplomatic stuff and not get confused, start putting dates on your stuff.

On Wednesday, I will be removing from page one all of the factions that never posted or messaged me, which is disappointing.

Nation Name: Jong Un
Government Type (Democracy, Monarchy, Republic, Confederation): Dictatorship
National Leader(s): Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un II
Economy Type (Capitalist, Social Democratic, Socialist, Mixed, State Capitalist): Capitalist
Religion Type (Athiest, Secular/No State Religion, Catholic, Orthadox): Atheism
Racial Type (German, Russian, Both, Neither): Korean.
Link to Military Factbook or something Similiar: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=jong_un/detail=factbook/id=759083
Caliber used on Service Rifle: 7.62x39mm fired from the Jong Unian JU-17 assault rifle. Secondary firearm is the 45 ACP JU-1911.
Approx Population: 3.2 billion
Understanding of Military Weapons or Tactics out of Five Stars? Five my military has survived many travesties and is the main peacekeeping force of my region. I also partake in milsim which I have been doing for the past 4 years.
Military Service Branches: Army, Navy, Air Force, SGASF (secret government approved special forces
Reason For Involvement: provide a invading force for a nation that wants my help, I'm undecided who I'm going to work with so I will let others seek my help.

I looked at your factbook and did some math. According to what I calculate, you have 12.07% of your population under arms, and active. The US at the end of WW2 had only 9% of its population under arms and this was back when most of their gear cost almost nothing to make by today's standards. They were also using a small percentage, of how much ammunition and fuel as they use now.

No nations since WW2 has tried to go over 5% and not had serious economic issues. Until serious military reform or retcon, this application is denyed

[The Black Hand of Nod]

Oh I only dropped in to make note that Nod is going to be expecting a productive deal with Vixen in returned for those territories, after all the Black Hand were the ones who fought over it.

At the very least they're likely going to permanently occupy the main roadway and some of the ruins in the area to use as a second airfield and a staging ground.

[The Evan Empire]

They didn't, that's the entire reason they attacked, they promptly assumed that the cargo ships weren't a threat and began drawing down their threat level and their defenses, I caught them with their pants down. I'm just going to assume there's quite a few damaged support ships and his carrier might be down some planes. It's highly likely the Exocets were taken out but the naval strike missile is designed to be good against countermeasures and very evasive, only disadvantage is it's range, speed, and warhead size which is why the Black Hand uses it in an ambush role in large scale salvos.

True, I suppose not detecting the surprise attack is on the RR since they lowered their defenses after the tankers vectored in on them. Hopefully something similar won't happen to the EE XD. And that's also true I'd imagine a swarm of missiles specifically designed for less than 30 mile combat would be even more deadly.

[The Black Hand of Nod]

I looked at your factbook and did some math. According to what I calculate, you have 12.07% of your population under arms, and active. The US at the end of WW2 had only 9% of its population under arms and this was back when most of their gear cost almost nothing to make by today's standards. They were also using a small percentage, of how much ammunition and fuel as they use now.

No nations since WW2 has tried to go over 5% and not had serious economic issues. Until serious military reform or retcon, this application is denyed

Good thing you stopped before you got to reading about the 800 Megaton warhead nukes that supposedly work.

They didn't, that's the entire reason they attacked, they promptly assumed that the cargo ships weren't a threat and began drawing down their threat level and their defenses, I caught them with their pants down. I'm just going to assume there's quite a few damaged support ships and his carrier might be down some planes. It's highly likely the Exocets were taken out but the naval strike missile is designed to be good against countermeasures and very evasive, only disadvantage is it's range, speed, and warhead size which is why the Black Hand uses it in an ambush role in large scale salvos.

True, I suppose not detecting the surprise attack is on the RR since they lowered their defenses after the tankers vectored in on them. Hopefully something similar won't happen to the EE XD. And that's also true I'd imagine a swarm of missiles specifically designed for less than 30 mile combat would be even more deadly.

Attacks like that usually only work once a thread before everyone wises up.

Anyway I should finally have a response post later tonight.