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The Black Hand of Nod
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Postby The Black Hand of Nod » Tue May 01, 2018 9:39 pm

Oh right that explains all that red on the map... clearly something needs to be done about that.

That did confuse me a bit.

Expect a post sometime tomorrow
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Postby Vadia » Wed May 02, 2018 5:48 pm

"However police had already stormed through the room with pistols all pointing at the Khruschev assassin."

I think you got confused by my post, what was meant for you was the

"Someone had literally mixed rat poison into his food, or something chemically like it. Right after that happened, six men of the guard stormed the room and proceeded to shoot anyone in it, to eliminate witnesses. Carrying G-41 copies, a local copy of the "Ranger Body Armor", and wearing a desert take on German flecktarn camo. "

The room with the assassin is being hosed down with bullets. Other then that, I enjoyed your post, your math checks out.
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Postby The 4th August Regime of Greece » Wed May 02, 2018 11:33 pm

Vadia wrote:"However police had already stormed through the room with pistols all pointing at the Khruschev assassin."

I think you got confused by my post, what was meant for you was the

"Someone had literally mixed rat poison into his food, or something chemically like it. Right after that happened, six men of the guard stormed the room and proceeded to shoot anyone in it, to eliminate witnesses. Carrying G-41 copies, a local copy of the "Ranger Body Armor", and wearing a desert take on German flecktarn camo. "

The room with the assassin is being hosed down with bullets. Other then that, I enjoyed your post, your math checks out.

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Uhmm in that event just skip to the part where my assassin tries to or successfully commits suicide. I'm pretty sure a 50 calibre bullet to the neck and back would've killed Boris and if not then I need some explanation.

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Postby The Evan Empire » Thu May 03, 2018 12:37 am

Nation Name: The Evan Empire
Government Type: Constitutionally and Senate Limited Federal Empire
National Leader(s): Emperor Evan Barrineau and 12 Department Leaders
Economy Type: Open capitalism with a minor presence of State Capitalism in all sectors for stability and control
Religion Type: No official religion
Racial Type: South American and European population
Link to Military Factbook or something Similiar: Military section of my nation's Factbook. For example Force Size
Caliber used on Service Rifle: 5.56x45mm NATO
Approx Population 1 billion
Understanding of Military Weapons or Tactics out of Five Stars? Personally, very knowledgeable of weapons, tactics maybe less so. Nation is highly trained but lacks extensive combat experience 3.5/5
Military Service Branches: 5, Special Forces, Ground Forces, Naval Forces, Aerial Forces, and Evan Militia.
Reason For Involvement: International Economic interest in suppressing the number of competitors in the narcotics sector, support for the established Kaiser government to avoid global destabilization and power shift to possible adversaries.

Question: What political side does the Kaiser fall on and where is the region located geographically? Would make more sense for the EE to support a nearby capitalistic faction I suppose.

Also what limits on a naval orbat exist? Looking to park a group of 6 ships near the coast initially
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Democratically elected capitalist government managed by Imperial Council of Emperor and his 12 Department Leaders. An Imperial Senate acts as oversight, ratifies Council laws, and approves Council actions. State funded corporation Evco Inc. ensures business competition and jobs. Education is provided free by the government for productivity. Laws are loose with criminal punishments carried out via community service or all the way to lifetime hard labor instead of death. Strong Military in all branches. Hosts the National Coalition of Defense and Economy (NatCoDE); defense and economic pact for members who maintain the NatCoDE Charter’s standards.

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Postby Vadia » Thu May 03, 2018 4:38 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:Nation Name: The Evan Empire
Government Type: Constitutionally and Senate Limited Federal Empire
National Leader(s): Emperor Evan Barrineau and 12 Department Leaders
Economy Type: Open capitalism with a minor presence of State Capitalism in all sectors for stability and control
Religion Type: No official religion
Racial Type: South American and European population
Link to Military Factbook or something Similiar: Military section of my nation's Factbook. For example Force Size
Caliber used on Service Rifle: 5.56x45mm NATO
Approx Population 1 billion
Understanding of Military Weapons or Tactics out of Five Stars? Personally, very knowledgeable of weapons, tactics maybe less so. Nation is highly trained but lacks extensive combat experience 3.5/5
Military Service Branches: 5, Ground Forces, Naval Forces, Aerial Forces, and Evan Militia.
Reason For Involvement: International Economic interest in suppressing the number of competitors in the narcotics sector, support for the established Kaiser government to avoid global destabilization and power shift to possible adversaries.

Question: What political side does the Kaiser fall on and where is the region located geographically? Would make more sense for the EE to support a nearby capitalistic faction I suppose.

Also what limits on a naval orbat exist? Looking to park a group of 6 ships near the coast initially


It's located in Klazia, in the far east. Kaiser isn't capitalist or communist, he is top to bottom feudal monarchy.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Thu May 03, 2018 8:03 pm

Vadia wrote:It's located in Klazia, in the far east. Kaiser isn't capitalist or communist, he is top to bottom feudal monarchy.


Ah gotcha, that works then, both factions are feudal correct?
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Postby Vadia » Thu May 03, 2018 8:08 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:
Vadia wrote:It's located in Klazia, in the far east. Kaiser isn't capitalist or communist, he is top to bottom feudal monarchy.


Ah gotcha, that works then, both factions are feudal correct?


I need to update that Kafka is being replaced with Alec', on the first page of this OOC. Alec' has had a lot of outside investment lately, which is capitalist, along with having a few fiefdoms that are partially socialist in nature. The nature of fuedalism, is all your "Lord" cares about, is your loyalty, your taxes, and your levees.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Thu May 03, 2018 8:15 pm

Vadia wrote:I need to update that Kafka is being replaced with Alec', on the first page of this OOC. Alec' has had a lot of outside investment lately, which is capitalist, along with having a few fiefdoms that are partially socialist in nature. The nature of fuedalism, is all your "Lord" cares about, is your loyalty, your taxes, and your levees.


Oh so like fiefdom by fiefdom they operate differently based of their support? Or like the act of outside investment is seen as capitalist in nature?
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Postby Vadia » Thu May 03, 2018 8:46 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:
Vadia wrote:I need to update that Kafka is being replaced with Alec', on the first page of this OOC. Alec' has had a lot of outside investment lately, which is capitalist, along with having a few fiefdoms that are partially socialist in nature. The nature of fuedalism, is all your "Lord" cares about, is your loyalty, your taxes, and your levees.


Oh so like fiefdom by fiefdom they operate differently based of their support? Or like the act of outside investment is seen as capitalist in nature?


Fiefdom by fiefdom they operate differently, based on what the local "Count" or "Countess", said in Russian as "Grof" or "Grofica", sees fit.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Thu May 03, 2018 9:33 pm

Vadia wrote:Fiefdom by fiefdom they operate differently, based on what the local "Count" or "Countess", said in Russian as "Grof" or "Grofica", sees fit.

Gotcha, does the Kaiser have that same level of kinda anything goes as long as it works or is he a bit more specific?
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Postby Vadia » Thu May 03, 2018 9:35 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:
Vadia wrote:Fiefdom by fiefdom they operate differently, based on what the local "Count" or "Countess", said in Russian as "Grof" or "Grofica", sees fit.

Gotcha, does the Kaiser have that same level of kinda anything goes as long as it works or is he a bit more specific?


His entire model is either State Capitalist, Feudal, and Mercantilism. More or less the standard before Capitalism and Communism. He controls everything.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Thu May 03, 2018 9:40 pm

In that case I suppose the EE would make sense in supporting the Kaiser, between the economic and stability interests. Kaiser it is then
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Postby The Black Hand of Nod » Thu May 03, 2018 9:54 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:In that case I suppose the EE would make sense in supporting the Kaiser, between the economic and stability interests. Kaiser it is then

But your nation would be open to whoever gives the better economic interests?
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Postby Vadia » Thu May 03, 2018 10:14 pm

Just for the record, but this conflict is going to expand to the rest of the Klazia region. The map and world is a bit blurry, so most visual aids are going to be kinda rough around the edges.

So far, most of the news is that Rusland and the rest of KNG, is completely unable to deal with the Neo-Soviet and Ultranationalist threat. Han is being pushed and carved up by regional powers, so you have that.

Oh, and if any of these powers get their acts together or win, they will push into MindWalker in some way. Neo-Soviets could push south through the "Stans" and into MindWalker or the areas touching it, Ultranationalists could flee Siberia and deploy to MindWalker as well, if they keep losing ground.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Thu May 03, 2018 10:16 pm

The Black Hand of Nod wrote:But your nation would be open to whoever gives the better economic interests?

In a way, officially it would be to restore peace and predictable and independent power holders but the real reason would be to attempt to influence the market for narcotics to shift supply towards the EE, basically aiming for getting closer an international monopoly that the economy could benefit from
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Postby Vadia » Thu May 03, 2018 10:24 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:
The Black Hand of Nod wrote:But your nation would be open to whoever gives the better economic interests?

In a way, officially it would be to restore peace and predictable and independent power holders but the real reason would be to attempt to influence the market for narcotics to shift supply towards the EE, basically aiming for getting closer an international monopoly that the economy could benefit from


With the loss of two of the three major suppliers of Opium, the region is going from being this huge Saudia Arabia, Iran, Russia combo of Opium... To well..... No production outside of Yeren's medical companies.

All that will be left is the tobacco farms in Kaiser and Han territory.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Thu May 03, 2018 10:45 pm

Vadia wrote:
With the loss of two of the three major suppliers of Opium, the region is going from being this huge Saudia Arabia, Iran, Russia combo of Opium... To well..... No production outside of Yeren's medical companies.

All that will be left is the tobacco farms in Kaiser and Han territory.


Ah, does that mean potential supply of typically illegal drugs is mostly gone already?
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Postby Vadia » Thu May 03, 2018 10:47 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:
Vadia wrote:
With the loss of two of the three major suppliers of Opium, the region is going from being this huge Saudia Arabia, Iran, Russia combo of Opium... To well..... No production outside of Yeren's medical companies.

All that will be left is the tobacco farms in Kaiser and Han territory.


Ah, does that mean potential supply of typically illegal drugs is mostly gone already?


It will be if Kaiser wins or Alec' doesn't claim the territory that Nod just entered.
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Postby The Black Hand of Nod » Fri May 04, 2018 12:20 am

The Evan Empire wrote:
The Black Hand of Nod wrote:But your nation would be open to whoever gives the better economic interests?

In a way, officially it would be to restore peace and predictable and independent power holders but the real reason would be to attempt to influence the market for narcotics to shift supply towards the EE, basically aiming for getting closer an international monopoly that the economy could benefit from

Interesting, then you can expect a Nod front to offer some sort of deal once they realize you're getting involved on the Kaiser's side if they realize that's what you're after.

Nod's got quite the wallet after all, as some of the factions are finding out, and just as that money can buy Nod a shit ton of weapons, parts, surplus ships, and equipment, it also can be used to buy nations off if need be.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Fri May 04, 2018 4:25 am

The Black Hand of Nod wrote:
The Evan Empire wrote:Nod's got quite the wallet after all, as some of the factions are finding out, and just as that money can buy Nod a shit ton of weapons, parts, surplus ships, and equipment, it also can be used to buy nations off if need be.

I see, maybe a quick naval incursion with or without boots on the ground attempting attacks on leftover production of narcotics and then the the Black Hand works it's financial magic and the conflict to become 'resolved' to the EE.
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Postby The Black Hand of Nod » Fri May 04, 2018 6:53 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:
The Black Hand of Nod wrote:

I see, maybe a quick naval incursion with or without boots on the ground attempting attacks on leftover production of narcotics and then the the Black Hand works it's financial magic and the conflict to become 'resolved' to the EE.

A good win\win for EE and Nod gets more diplomatic relations.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Fri May 04, 2018 7:33 pm

The Black Hand of Nod wrote:A good win\win for EE and Nod gets more diplomatic relations.


Yep, and some good extra RP material for the thread as well. Is this okay with you Vadia?
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Postby Vadia » Fri May 04, 2018 7:41 pm

The Evan Empire wrote:
The Black Hand of Nod wrote:A good win\win for EE and Nod gets more diplomatic relations.


Yep, and some good extra RP material for the thread as well. Is this okay with you Vadia?


You are approved.
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Postby The Evan Empire » Fri May 04, 2018 7:44 pm

Vadia wrote:You are approved.

Good stuff, I hope to have an initial post up by tonight or so.
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Postby Vadia » Sat May 05, 2018 10:36 am

I don't see any land of Kafka, that is coastal.

Unless you mean that island?

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