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Democratic Exodian Territories
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:23 pm

Sorry... I just like a dosage of good poetry to accompany all the shooting and death for a change, y’know. Even though it literally doesn’t matter, for some reason it makes the hits feels harder.
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Postby Lethen Empire » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:25 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:Sorry... I just like a dosage of good poetry to accompany all the shooting and death for a change, y’know. Even though it literally doesn’t matter, for some reason it makes the hits feels harder.


I can understand, but it makes it incredibly difficult to really figure out what you're doing.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:10 pm

Lol, we have the exact opposite problem as with Atkemri
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:17 pm

Exodia, is this an accurate map?
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:47 pm

Well... Rather, I'd put them a bit farther southwest (in between where they are now and the outlier island), and cluster around half of them into 3 islands in a northeast-to-southwest diagonal pattern. The rest will be clustered in a ring around the three main islands.

It was still a decent try. Don't feel too bad.
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Postby Lethen Empire » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:50 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:Well... Rather, I'd put them a bit farther southwest (in between where they are now and the outlier island), and cluster around half of them into 3 islands in a northeast-to-southwest diagonal pattern. The rest will be clustered in a ring around the three main islands.

It was still a decent try. Don't feel too bad.


So I assume it's a pretty tight formation?
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:51 pm

Exodia, I honestly gotta say that you might be godmodding. You have an archipelago on the Gulf of Mexico, and an economy based on dank memes, but you’re still rich enough to do all the stuff that you’ve done. I hope you don’t godmod your way out of Xanadaria’s post, his missiles are powerful enough to sink an island while remaining PMT.
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Postby Lethen Empire » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:59 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Exodia, I honestly gotta say that you might be godmodding. You have an archipelago on the Gulf of Mexico, and an economy based on dank memes, but you’re still rich enough to do all the stuff that you’ve done. I hope you don’t godmod your way out of Xanadaria’s post, his missiles are powerful enough to sink an island while remaining PMT.


To be fair, using nukes isn't the most fair either.
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:03 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Exodia, I honestly gotta say that you might be godmodding. You have an archipelago on the Gulf of Mexico, and an economy based on dank memes, but you’re still rich enough to do all the stuff that you’ve done. I hope you don’t godmod your way out of Xanadaria’s post, his missiles are powerful enough to sink an island while remaining PMT.


Well... This nation was unintentionally meant to godmod, at least before I entered the forums.
In RP terms, the economy "based on dank memes" was a joke. We really got rich off of our manufacturing and superior tech to most of the world.

What exactly do these missiles do, anyways? Are they nuke-based, antimatter, what exactly?
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:05 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Exodia, I honestly gotta say that you might be godmodding. You have an archipelago on the Gulf of Mexico, and an economy based on dank memes, but you’re still rich enough to do all the stuff that you’ve done. I hope you don’t godmod your way out of Xanadaria’s post, his missiles are powerful enough to sink an island while remaining PMT.


Well... This nation was unintentionally meant to godmod, at least before I entered the forums.
In RP terms, the economy "based on dank memes" was a joke. We really got rich off of our manufacturing and superior tech to most of the world.

What exactly do these missiles do, anyways? Are they nuke-based, antimatter, what exactly?

Two things, sig posts count as forum, which you said are reliable in your sig. Second, how did you get rich off of superior tech if you need to be rich to have superior tech, you just created a paradox. I’m finding it hard to take you seriously now, because you’re acting like Exodia has the same power as the entire JP while being on the small archipelago. Also, how did your manufacturing industry get so big on a small archipelago anyways? It’s unrealistic.
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Autarchist Hinodia
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Postby Autarchist Hinodia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:25 pm

Exodia, Aureumterra is making an excellent point about the lack of realism where your economy is concerned, especially the fact that it’s based on manufacturing. Factories and production lines require a great deal of both space and raw materials, neither of which an island group is going to have much of.

While you might be able to explain these with land reclamation and imports, something of note is to be said for both. The first process is expensive, time consuming, and barely creates enough new land to make any actual econoomic difference. The second one is similarly expensive, and requires you to go to great lengths to curry favor with the Great Powers and other resource rich countries, and continue doing so for the rest of your existence to make sure that your economy doesn’t sink because you have no resources to process and no goods to mass produce.

Simply put, you are not in a good geographic position to be the military-industrial powerhouse you make yourself out to be in this and every other roleplay.
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:42 pm

First, I'm sorry if the thing in my sig confused anyone- it was meant to be a joke in its entirety.

Second, (if this is godmodding, I'm sorry, but I'll try not to make it seem as such), we obtained much of our technology from the dictatorship we had fled from.

Third and fourth, yes, while Exodia is rather rich in natural resources, we did import a great deal in exchange for our exports. Our manufacturing, which can be compared to the level in Israel, is really our spine- we have a lack of fertile land, which most agricultural products, namely wheat and corn, needs to be imported. We heavily rely on international trade, which is one of the reasons why we defended the Panama Canal in the Katsur RP.
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Postby Lethen Empire » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:44 pm

My post will go up tomorrow.
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:48 pm

I wasn't exactly told what Xandaria's missiles did... I'll TG him.
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Postby Xanadaria » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:50 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Exodia, I honestly gotta say that you might be godmodding. You have an archipelago on the Gulf of Mexico, and an economy based on dank memes, but you’re still rich enough to do all the stuff that you’ve done. I hope you don’t godmod your way out of Xanadaria’s post, his missiles are powerful enough to sink an island while remaining PMT.


Well... This nation was unintentionally meant to godmod, at least before I entered the forums.
In RP terms, the economy "based on dank memes" was a joke. We really got rich off of our manufacturing and superior tech to most of the world.

What exactly do these missiles do, anyways? Are they nuke-based, antimatter, what exactly?


They're not nukes persay. They're not going to blast radiation over your lands or anything. However, they pack one hell of a punch.

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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:58 pm

Xanadaria wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Well... This nation was unintentionally meant to godmod, at least before I entered the forums.
In RP terms, the economy "based on dank memes" was a joke. We really got rich off of our manufacturing and superior tech to most of the world.

What exactly do these missiles do, anyways? Are they nuke-based, antimatter, what exactly?


They're not nukes persay. They're not going to blast radiation over your lands or anything. However, they pack one hell of a punch.


Soo...
wut do dey do

I'm assuming it's an antimatter bomb, or is it some other massive force at work?
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Postby Lethen Empire » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:59 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Xanadaria wrote:
They're not nukes persay. They're not going to blast radiation over your lands or anything. However, they pack one hell of a punch.


Soo...
wut do dey do

I'm assuming it's an antimatter bomb?


No, just a big bomb....? Pretty simple idea.
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:05 pm

Lethen Empire wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Soo...
wut do dey do

I'm assuming it's an antimatter bomb?


No, just a big bomb....? Pretty simple idea.


Pardon me, but how do you could pack a cargo ship-full of conventional explosives into a...

Oh.

They just recreated the Halifax Explosion, but dropping it from orbit... Do I get it?
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Postby Democratic Tianxia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:48 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:Pardon me, but how do you could pack a cargo ship-full of conventional explosives into a...

Oh.

They just recreated the Halifax Explosion, but dropping it from orbit... Do I get it?


Excuse me for butting in, but the Halifax Explosion, while the largest explosion on record before the invention of nuclear weapons, was still only about 2.9 kilotons of TNT equivalent. The orbital missile being fired has a yield of 40 megatons, which would, as the name suggests, require forty million tons of TNT. While TNT isn't the most powerful conventional explosive, at best your warhead would still weigh hundreds of thousands of tons if it used conventional explosives. For comparison, the heaviest building in the world, the Romanian Palace of the Parliament, weighs about 4 million tons. This is not very practical for a missile.

On another note, I may be popping up in the IC later, although I'm no sure if I'll get involved yet.

EDIT:
This is a nice comparison between the missile and the Halifax Explosion. You may have to zoom in a bit.
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Postby Siberai » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:18 pm

*sigh* Alright, time for me to pop in.

A. They're reverse-engineered missiles he purchased from me. They're based off the MARS Variant of the Dual-Matter Reactant Weapons, which normally have a combined explosive power of 400 Megatons. His are severely rolled back, as they do not contain Antimatter, which is the cause of the mind boggling yield of the MARS Missile. I believe he has yet to recreate the JUPITER Antimatter Missile, which has a whopping 10 Gigaton blast yield, and if he did, they would be yet to reach 100 Megatons at the minimum.

B. They're intended as City Busters, meant to level cities and cause maximum damage possible. His likely cannot do as such, as they are not powerful enough to level a city, possibly only do catastrophic damage. It's safe to say you should be glad they are not the terrifying missiles they are based off of.
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Postby Lethen Empire » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:20 pm

Democratic Tianxia wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:Pardon me, but how do you could pack a cargo ship-full of conventional explosives into a...

Oh.

They just recreated the Halifax Explosion, but dropping it from orbit... Do I get it?


Excuse me for butting in, but the Halifax Explosion, while the largest explosion on record before the invention of nuclear weapons, was still only about 2.9 kilotons of TNT equivalent. The orbital missile being fired has a yield of 40 megatons, which would, as the name suggests, require forty million tons of TNT. While TNT isn't the most powerful conventional explosive, at best your warhead would still weigh hundreds of thousands of tons if it used conventional explosives. For comparison, the heaviest building in the world, the Romanian Palace of the Parliament, weighs about 4 million tons. This is not very practical for a missile.

On another note, I may be popping up in the IC later, although I'm no sure if I'll get involved yet.

EDIT:
This is a nice comparison between the missile and the Halifax Explosion. You may have to zoom in a bit.


This is a PMT rp.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:07 pm

Since Dominican Rep. is an NPC, I’ll go ahead and capture it now
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:52 pm

Updated my factbook map
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:15 pm

Gagium, do you think that my latest post was metagaming?
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Postby Gagium » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:23 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Gagium, do you think that my latest post was metagaming?

Eh, yea, sort of. Was actually writing up an OOC comment, lol, and I probably should've explained how I pictured the station more. I pictured the chambers more as being stationary, but the missiles being able to change course once launched to target towards their destinations. Also I'm not entirely sure how you'd know all the soldiers were in the central chamber (Heat sensors perhaps? With your Heat Sprayers though, and the extreme temperatures in space, I don't know how effective or accurate that'd be). Your astronauts, if they'd stayed longer, probably could've figured out that nearly all of the Gagiumish space marines were in the central module. Also, the missile chambers are actually attached to the station, and if you'd fire on the beams and passages connecting it to the rest of the station, it would probably just continue being in orbit, but it would eventually fall down, whether it'd take days or weeks.
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