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Which faction(s) do you back in the 2nd Kadulean Civil War

1] PLPCK / 1st Army
9
8%
2] MGPK / 2nd Army and King's Army
22
19%
3] PPN
16
14%
4] PH
14
12%
5] RCPK
7
6%
6] GA
2
2%
7] PL
12
10%
8] EU
12
10%
9] Back no factions while calling for peace
15
13%
10] Back no factions
6
5%
 
Total votes : 115

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Postby Suoji » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:47 pm

Speaking from the summit in Beatrix, Escevola, Kosuro Nijura has announced that he will divert 10 of the country’s S.92 MBTs from where they are fighting to the MGPK in Kadule. This act of aiding a faction in Kadule, he says, will not effect any negotiations made at this summit.

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Postby Alenburg » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:13 pm

Before Alenburgian president speech Minister of Foreign Affairs Jaques Van Deer Saar proceeds to deliver a gift to the High Chancellor for his majesty the King a wooden made Hawk with Alenburgian founding fathers names printed on it as a symbol of future cooperation and friendship between the two nations. Speaking from the summit in Beatrix Alenburgian president Alexander Silverson:" Alenburg is concerned about the situation in Kadule, Alenburg expresses its solidarity to the king and also express its supports to the anti-communist movements who are fighting for the future of Kadule and will not allow their country to become another failed and poor state under the hand of communism".

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Postby Mangahhan Super Region » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:28 pm

All of the 14,000 Avilans have been arrived in Camianograd. Everyone was on the ships, there are no more Avilans left in Kadule, all people are evacuated safely.

To the President of Kadule Kanganisa Zulgwona, we thanked your peaceful decision. All of the 14,000 Avilan expatriates have been successfully arrived in Camianograd. We honored your decision to not deploy Avilan troops in Kadule, our nation gives you a great thanks for safeguarding the evacuation of Avilans.

With appreciation,
Mikayela Mhae Zhukoviye,
Crisis Committee Commissar,
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Postby Joaquin States » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:59 pm

Escevola wrote:Thu Dec 08, 2017

11:30 a.m. TV news. Escevola National Broadcasting. The TV news anchor announces that an important speech will be given to the viewers, by his High Majesty the King of the Sacred Roman Hispanic Kingdom of Escevola:
"Ladies, gentlemen...Good morning,
I have to announce that an international summit, in order to discuss about the 2nd Kadulean Civil War, will be held at our Holy Royal city of Beatrix, capital of our Nation.
Since this afternoon, a group of countries that are concerned about this hoted and controversial issue, and members of the kadulean opposition parties, will show their proposals to give a solution to this problem.
We are so honored to hold such an important conference in our humble land, and we expect to found a way to end the conflict as soon as possible, before the consecuences became irretrievable.
All of you, during the time you are here, are under the rules that moderate the usual relations among leaders of different countries, so please, be polite, as you are our guests.
Thank you for coming, thank you for your time, thank you for your compromise.
Welcome to Escevola"

Inmediately, the High Steward of the Royal House of Escevola shows a relation where the assitants to the event appear, with images recorded when they have been arriving at the International Airport of Beatrix:
-Representatives of the opposition parties of Kadule, MGPK, PH and PPN,
-The exiled leader of the PL of Kadule, Mr. Anibal Jengouzi,
-EU representative, an activist in exile. Thanks to the People´s Republic of Zaxumadi for make it possible,
-From the Republic of Alemburg, Ministry of Foreign Affairs Jaques Van Der Saar, and President Alexander Silverson. Thank you for your present,
-From the Federation of Atkemri, Ms. Maria Hosief,
-From the Democratic Republic of Joaquin States, President Joaquin III, and his fellow bureaucrats,
-Foreign Affairs Minister of the Kingdom of Lynland,
-From the Grand Duchy of Meadville, Ministers of State and War, and his High Majesty the Grand Duke of Meadville,
-From the Republic of Suoji, Suojian Ministry of Foreign Relations, Mr. Kosuro Nijura,
-From the Commonwealth of Union Princes, the Prince of Foreign Affairs,
-Foreign Affairs Minister of the People´s Republic of Zaxumadi.

All of them will reside in the West Wing of the Great Royal Palace, with enough room for them as well as their relatives. The meals will be adapted to their needs and beliefs.


President Joaquin III,Minister of Foreign Affairs Carol Rojas and their aides are in attendance
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Postby Joaquin States » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:50 pm

The President Of Joaquin States stood up from his seat,with a piece of paper.He began his speech,"Welcome nations involved in this conflict.The Government Of Joaquin States is opposed to the ruling party because we disagree with many of their policies such as,Slavery,conscription and curfews.We believe that the factions are also not suitable in the position of leadership as most of them run with policies that the Government Of Joaquin States disagrees with.We believe that you should just allow a Democratic nation to take over the nation's government and sort out the human rights abuses and make it more democratic,peaceful and safe".
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Supply Embargo to MGPK Faction

Postby Continent of Africa United » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:34 pm

Thanks to an industrial mining rush, our country has mined a massive excess of lead. We have formally discussed the matter and chosen to supply faction MGPK with ten tonnes on lead to be shaped into bullets.

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Postby Escevola » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am

Joaquin States wrote:The President Of Joaquin States stood up from his seat,with a piece of paper.He began his speech,"Welcome nations involved in this conflict.The Government Of Joaquin States is opposed to the ruling party because we disagree with many of their policies such as,Slavery,conscription and curfews.We believe that the factions are also not suitable in the position of leadership as most of them run with policies that the Government Of Joaquin States disagrees with.We believe that you should just allow a Democratic nation to take over the nation's government and sort out the human rights abuses and make it more democratic,peaceful and safe".

As we have observed, everyone of us is against Kanganisa Zulgwona, and we would be prone to push him back from their seat, even by using the force.
Therefore, we are here because we want to talk about solutions, but we even are not agree about what are the problems to be resolved.
As far as Escevola is concerned, we considered that the problem is, according to Alenburg arguments, that we can not allow that a comunist government would exist in Kadule, and Mr Zulgwona must respond for his crimes against his own people.
Like Joaquin States, we disagree with the slavery politics of the current president, neither with the whaling nor the use of weapons of mass destruction as well.
However, we really think that Kadule must remain independent, maybe as a democracy or maybe as another system, but always a Kadulean system.
We propose that everyone should tell about the red lines and the accords that each one would be able to refuse or accept.

Escevola, for example:
1) Kanganisa Zulgwona and the PLPCK must be defeated.
2) At this summit, every country will have 1 vote to be used at each voting.
3) Every kadulean political party, will have 1 vote indeed.
4) Kadule must be remain independent.
5) Slavery must be punished by law, and forbidden forever.
6) Whaling must be forbidden.
7) Mjumbi and Vinhedos, could become independent, if not autonomous provinces.
8 ) Kadule would be a Federation, Confederation, or became a group of different countries associated, we don not mind.
9) We don not mind about the political system.
10) Although comunism and anarquism must be forbidden, a social-democrat or social-catholic party could be allowed to exist. And every party that would fight against Kanganisa, should be unbanned, even if a general, among the PLPCK forces, goes against Zulgwona, legalizing the PLPCK again, because of its help to achieve the victory.
11) In order to be honorable, everyone of us who will decide to go on a war against the PLPCK, must declare the war officially and publically, first.
12) A War Committee could be arranged for taking common military decisions and create a task force to be deployed at Kadule, for supporting any group we decide deserves our attention.

We could give opinions, discuss them and take decisions.
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Postby Suoji » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:16 am

Escevola wrote:
Joaquin States wrote:The President Of Joaquin States stood up from his seat,with a piece of paper.He began his speech,"Welcome nations involved in this conflict.The Government Of Joaquin States is opposed to the ruling party because we disagree with many of their policies such as,Slavery,conscription and curfews.We believe that the factions are also not suitable in the position of leadership as most of them run with policies that the Government Of Joaquin States disagrees with.We believe that you should just allow a Democratic nation to take over the nation's government and sort out the human rights abuses and make it more democratic,peaceful and safe".

As we have observed, everyone of us is against Kanganisa Zulgwona, and we would be prone to push him back from their seat, even by using the force.
Therefore, we are here because we want to talk about solutions, but we even are not agree about what are the problems to be resolved.
As far as Escevola is concerned, we considered that the problem is, according to Alenburg arguments, that we can not allow that a comunist government would exist in Kadule, and Mr Zulgwona must respond for his crimes against his own people.
Like Joaquin States, we disagree with the slavery politics of the current president, neither with the whaling nor the use of weapons of mass destruction as well.
However, we really think that Kadule must remain independent, maybe as a democracy or maybe as another system, but always a Kadulean system.
We propose that everyone should tell about the red lines and the accords that each one would be able to refuse or accept.

Escevola, for example:
1) Kanganisa Zulgwona and the PLPCK must be defeated.
2) At this summit, every country will have 1 vote to be used at each voting.
3) Every kadulean political party, will have 1 vote indeed.
4) Kadule must be remain independent.
5) Slavery must be punished by law, and forbidden forever.
6) Whaling must be forbidden.
7) Mjumbi and Vinhedos, could become independent, if not autonomous provinces.
8 ) Kadule would be a Federation, Confederation, or became a group of different countries associated, we don not mind.
9) We don not mind about the political system.
10) Although comunism and anarquism must be forbidden, a social-democrat or social-catholic party could be allowed to exist. And every party that would fight against Kanganisa, should be unbanned, even if a general, among the PLPCK forces, goes against Zulgwona, legalizing the PLPCK again, because of its help to achieve the victory.
11) In order to be honorable, everyone of us who will decide to go on a war against the PLPCK, must declare the war officially and publically, first.
12) A War Committee could be arranged for taking common military decisions and create a task force to be deployed at Kadule, for supporting any group we decide deserves our attention.

We could give opinions, discuss them and take decisions.


I agree with the points put forward here. I strongly agree with the fact that the PLPCK must be defeated at all costs. Whilst slavery is still prominent in Suoji, we are making big pushes to try to abolish it.

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Postby Escevola » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:54 am

There are other points that have to be considered too:
13) This is a 15 sides reunion, so, if we need to aprove something, it must aproved with at least 8 votes.
14) Kadule needs a legitimate government. If the leaders of Kadule want to form a government-in-exile, they will be do it with at least, 4 votes. If they got any problem to do so, the other 10 no-kadulean sides would participate.
15) The election will give a leader until a new summit will be held.
16) A leader of this summit should be elected, in order to give personality and power to a conference that could became an Alliance for the Real Kadule.
17) For this time, NO leader from Escevola could be elected for the election shown in the prior point.
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Need military support?

Postby Continent of Africa United » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:29 am

We have discussed the matter, and decided to help the rebellion. Our military is 22% of our population, but our technology is outdated, and we are not capable of bringing our full military force. Here is an overview of our military forces-

-1.32 million soldiers
-61 Armored Fighting Vehicles
-9 captured SU-8 SPGs
-7 captured T-62As
-4 captured Object 263s
-5 landing craft
-2 reused WWII destroyers
-4 pathetic nuclear ICBMs with a collective yield less than 1% that of Hiroshima that can't even reach halfway to your island


We do not have a full understanding of the situation, however we do understand that PLPCK is a communist government which needs to fall, and we will be happy to help.

On a side note, we have decided to ship 50 tons of Thorium to MCPK to be used in power sources for large vehicles, along with 40,000 barrels of oil for regular fuel.

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Postby Joaquin States » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:56 am

I agree with the proposition that Escelova has put forward.Although we are opposed to the Government Of Kadule and its warring factions,we believe with the right oversight of it policies,the country or countries(if split up),will become prosperous and safe.
We would love to add one more thing to the proposition,which would be to abolish the network of state surveillance,in which the Government Of Kadule has put in place
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Postby Alenburg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:48 am

Escevola wrote:There are other points that have to be considered too:
13) This is a 14 sides reunion, so, if we need to aprove something, it must aproved with at least 8 votes.
14) Kadule needs a legitimate government. If the leaders of Kadule want to form a government-in-exile, they will be do it with at least, 4 votes. If they got any problem to do so, the other 10 no-kadulean sides would participate.
15) The election will give a leader until a new summit will be held.
16) A leader of this summit should be elected, in order to give personality and power to a conference that could became an Alliance for the Real Kadule.
17) For this time, NO leader from Escevola could be elected for the election shown in the prior point.


Alenburgian president express that he is agree with the purposes made by The Kingdon of Escevola and Joaquin States but he is going to add that after the defeating of the PLPCK and Zulgwona is neutralized, if Kadule celebrates democratic elections international observers from the nations of this summit must be in Kadule that day as a guarantee to avoid cheating

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Postby Meadville » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:40 am

Escevola wrote:There are other points that have to be considered too:
13) This is a 14 sides reunion, so, if we need to aprove something, it must aproved with at least 8 votes.
14) Kadule needs a legitimate government. If the leaders of Kadule want to form a government-in-exile, they will be do it with at least, 4 votes. If they got any problem to do so, the other 10 no-kadulean sides would participate.
15) The election will give a leader until a new summit will be held.
16) A leader of this summit should be elected, in order to give personality and power to a conference that could became an Alliance for the Real Kadule.
17) For this time, NO leader from Escevola could be elected for the election shown in the prior point.

The Grand Duke agrees with these points. He would like to propose that King Zakhambi VI would be instated as king over all of Kadule in an either ceremonial or absolutist position, depending on the opinions of the nations at the summit and the people of Kadule.

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Postby Joaquin States » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:07 pm

Meadville wrote:
Escevola wrote:There are other points that have to be considered too:
13) This is a 14 sides reunion, so, if we need to aprove something, it must aproved with at least 8 votes.
14) Kadule needs a legitimate government. If the leaders of Kadule want to form a government-in-exile, they will be do it with at least, 4 votes. If they got any problem to do so, the other 10 no-kadulean sides would participate.
15) The election will give a leader until a new summit will be held.
16) A leader of this summit should be elected, in order to give personality and power to a conference that could became an Alliance for the Real Kadule.
17) For this time, NO leader from Escevola could be elected for the election shown in the prior point.

The Grand Duke agrees with these points. He would like to propose that King Zakhambi VI would be instated as king over all of Kadule in an either ceremonial or absolutist position, depending on the opinions of the nations at the summit and the people of Kadule.

President Joaquin III disagrees with the proposition of that King Zakhambi VI should be reinstated in the position of leader.We believe that someone new should takeover the position of leader.
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Postby Escevola » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:44 pm

18) Abolish the kadulean network of surveillance.
19) If Kadule celebrates democratic elections international observers from the nations of this summit must be in Kadule that day as a guarantee to avoid cheating.

We are with the points shown up to this moment

20) King Zakhambi VI would be instated as king over all of Kadule in an either ceremonial or absolutist position

We think that the 1st Kadulean Civil War started for some reasons, and the mjumbi effort to conquered thw whole nation was one of them.
We will support his Highness the King Zakhambi VI, but only as King of the Mjumbi...at whatever position

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Postby Suoji » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:47 pm

I would like to put forward a question. What if the PLPCK wins the civil war and defeats the Mjumbi forces? How will our countries react to this outcome?

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Postby Alenburg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:05 pm

Suoji wrote:I would like to put forward a question. What if the PLPCK wins the civil war and defeats the Mjumbi forces? How will our countries react to this outcome?

"That is why we are here" adds Alenburgian president, we will not let that happen, Alenburg already sended tenchnological advanced drones Hawkgles to the MGPK before this meeting and we capable of going further the PLCPK is only supported by another corrupt dictatorship,well armed yes but its economy is very weak.

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Postby Joaquin States » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:55 pm

The Government Of Joaquin States will funnel in money and food through parcels sent by drones to the MGPK. Although we do not believe in some of their ideologies,they are the faction that Joaquin States believe in
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Postby Alenburg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:59 pm

Alenburg will send their best UAV armed and non-armed since we can not send our pilots to attack PLPCK positions,thinking about sending our Hunters troops but i do not think that the current Kadulean govermment will allow it.

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Invasion planning

Postby Of Infinity » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:22 pm

The Dictatorship of Infinity is a nation with a colossal, advanced military and a thriving economy, at the price of civil rights and political freedom. We want to spread our ideas of government throughout the world, and have henceforth made the decision to militarily back PLPCK.

We have send one of our advanced aircraft carriers, loaded with ten Mk. XL V105 generation V aircraft, accompanied by five of our destroyers, to conquer the island of llha da Pedra. From there, our forces are to attack and conquer the province of Palmelras. From that point, our forces will return to our homeland, except for one of our aircraft and one of our destroyers, which the faction of PLPCK will be allowed to keep for up to three months, in order to study and replicate the REZMER Fission Jet engine and the Thorium-powered hydraulic propulsion engine.

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Postby Union Princes » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:26 am

The Prince of Foreign Affairs stepped outside while the discussion was underway when he received a phone call from home. It is from the Prince of the Union Military.

"Hello," began the P.F.A., "You're interrupting me so this better be important."
The other line was silent for a moment.
"We have our first volunteer unit: an Union Officer was recently promoted and he requested that he and his squadron be transferred in to combat in this Kadulean Civil War." stated the Prince of the Union Military.
"How many men?" inquired the P.F.A.
"20 men; 19 Grenadiers and one Union Officer." answered the P.U.M., "But since we're assigning them a Commissar, that makes 21 men."
"Just Grenadiers?" wondered the P.F.A. Grenadiers are excellent soldiers but to only use them? On defense, it's not terrible but offence, results are unpredictable without infantry support.
"The Officer himself was promoted from a Grenadier battalion." answered the P.U.M.

The Prince of Foreign Affairs returned to the assembly. The room was silent as all attention was on him.
"The Union Princes wants to send a volunteer unit of 21 men." announced the P.F.A when he returned to his seat.
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Postby Absentius » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:43 am

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We support peace efforts in the Kadulean Civil War, and hope the conflict can come to a swift conclusion.
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Postby Meadville » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:28 pm

Escevola wrote:18) Abolish the kadulean network of surveillance.
19) If Kadule celebrates democratic elections international observers from the nations of this summit must be in Kadule that day as a guarantee to avoid cheating.

We are with the points shown up to this moment

20) King Zakhambi VI would be instated as king over all of Kadule in an either ceremonial or absolutist position

We think that the 1st Kadulean Civil War started for some reasons, and the mjumbi effort to conquered thw whole nation was one of them.
We will support his Highness the King Zakhambi VI, but only as King of the Mjumbi...at whatever position

Due to the international opposition to his proposal the Grand Duke has decided to amend it. We now propose that no harm will come to King Zakhambi VI and he will not be dethroned from his current position. Also we propose that the civil rights of the white minority must be respected in a post civil war Kadule.

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Postby Alenburg » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:46 pm

Meadville wrote:
Escevola wrote:18) Abolish the kadulean network of surveillance.
19) If Kadule celebrates democratic elections international observers from the nations of this summit must be in Kadule that day as a guarantee to avoid cheating.

We are with the points shown up to this moment

20) King Zakhambi VI would be instated as king over all of Kadule in an either ceremonial or absolutist position

We think that the 1st Kadulean Civil War started for some reasons, and the mjumbi effort to conquered thw whole nation was one of them.
We will support his Highness the King Zakhambi VI, but only as King of the Mjumbi...at whatever position

Due to the international opposition to his proposal the Grand Duke has decided to amend it. We now propose that no harm will come to King Zakhambi VI and he will not be dethroned from his current position. Also we propose that the civil rights of the white minority must be respected in a post civil war Kadule.

"The King Zakhambi has proved that the could not deal with the current situation on his country", said Alenburg Minister of Foreign Affairs Jaques Van Der Saar then he adds:"Also if we form some kind of coalition army we still need permission from the Kadulean govermment if we want to penetrate its borders"

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Postby Suoji » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:33 pm

Escevola wrote:18) Abolish the kadulean network of surveillance.
19) If Kadule celebrates democratic elections international observers from the nations of this summit must be in Kadule that day as a guarantee to avoid cheating.

We are with the points shown up to this moment

20) King Zakhambi VI would be instated as king over all of Kadule in an either ceremonial or absolutist position

We think that the 1st Kadulean Civil War started for some reasons, and the mjumbi effort to conquered thw whole nation was one of them.
We will support his Highness the King Zakhambi VI, but only as King of the Mjumbi...at whatever position


“However, if King Zakhambi VI was the solitary leader of Kadule wouldn’t it decrease the chances of a 3rd Civil War? If there were no other parties claiming to be leaders of their own section of the country it would mean there would be nobody to rise up against the MGPK.”

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