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[Augmark]

Not trying to stir up trouble, but Fascism is hardly Capitalist. Unless it's corporate Fascism.

If it's state Fascism, which the majority of Fascist states on NS are, then it is totalitarian government rule, maximum government spending and what not. The government controls everything in Fascism, including the economy. If it isn't the government controlling it, a monopoly of one or two gargantuan corporations are. That isn't terribly laissez-faire.

'Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalist liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept.' ~ Wikipedia.

What we mean is Iron Fist Consumerists and Corporate Police States

[Opola]

I need to reiterate that we are a right wing type of Capitalist alliance that do not support government regulation and communism.
Also, we are still going to make a peace treaty.

[Opola]

1 minute and voting ends.

[Civil Arabia]

I need to reiterate that we are a right wing type of Capitalist alliance that do not support government regulation and communism.
Also, we are still going to make a peace treaty.

Government regulation of the economy - Fascism. As I said, the majority of Fascist states that define themselves as Fascist on NS, are state Fascist.

[Opola]

I understand that you do not want us to ally with the Fascists so we destroy your puny union of socialist-liberals. The thing is we are. Maybe you try not to hate so much on the Fascists and Capitalists.

[Civil Arabia]

*Ahem*

I'm not with the SLU.

[Opola]

*Ahem*

I'm not with the SLU.

Then you are lucky you are not I guess, right?

[Civil Arabia]

I couldn't care less. I'm merely stating that you are not as similar to the Fascists as you think you are.

[Augmark]

After reviewing the Draft (which you should post) We shouldn't mention trade agreements with brochures just yet. We should simply state our intentions, and emphasize anti-socialism.

@ Civil Arabia

We are similar to Corporate Fascism in our economic ideals. Such exist in the form of Corporate Police States and Iron Fist Consumerists.

[Opola]

Ok, you can post the forum made with the revisions. (just post the forum u read that i sent u)

[Civil Arabia]

After reviewing the Draft (which you should post) We shouldn't mention trade agreements with brochures just yet. We should simply state our intentions, and emphasize anti-socialism.

@ Civil Arabia

We are similar to Corporate Fascism in our economic ideals. Such exist in the form of Corporate Police States and Iron Fist Consumerists.

I know. And I'm saying most are state Fascists.

[Australian Asia]

We are similar to Corporate Fascism in our economic ideals. Such exist in the form of Corporate Police States and Iron Fist Consumerists.

Yes, this is good.

[Augmark]

IFA/UCN Peace Agreement
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We the members of the UCN have concluded to propose a peace agreement with the the IFA. Though our government philosophies differ, our economic ideals are similar. We propose peace and trade in the face of ever present socialist nations and alliances. Socialism threatens both of our factions, and will never cease in its attempts to convert.

As stern Capitalists though, we would also like to offer trade agreements between IFA nations and UCN nations. Such trade offers the existance of a stronger faction against the threat of socialism.

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[Grittonia]

IFA/UCN Peace Agreement
DRAFT
We the members of the UCN have concluded to propose a peace agreement with the the IFA. Though our government philosophies differ, our economic ideals are similar. We propose peace and trade in the face of ever present socialist nations and alliances. Socialism threatens both of our factions, and will never cease in its attempts to convert.

As stern Capitalists though, we would also like to offer trade agreements between IFA nations and UCN nations. Such trade offers the existance of a stronger faction against the threat of socialism.

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hmmmm.... can be good or it can bite you up the @$$.

[Lizardiar]

What about CAG and UNTO?

[Spooty]

IFA/UCN Peace Agreement
DRAFT
We the members of the UCN have concluded to propose a peace agreement with the the IFA. Though our government philosophies differ, our economic ideals are similar. We propose peace and trade in the face of ever present socialist nations and alliances. Socialism threatens both of our factions, and will never cease in its attempts to convert.

As stern Capitalists though, we would also like to offer trade agreements between IFA nations and UCN nations. Such trade offers the existance of a stronger faction against the threat of socialism.

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Agreed, sort of, I've danced with the IFA before, they tend towards close mindedness and its more likely they'll refuse, but seeing as there's no repurcussions from trying I say we go ahead, it can only make both of us stronger.

[Augmark]

CAG and UNTO?

they could be valuable allies...the IFA may be too risky for now.

where are my foreign affairs VPs and what not!

as for the SLU, they are becomming more organized, and a very hostile flag

[Grittonia]

CAG and UNTO?

they could be valuable allies...the IFA may be too risky for now.

where are my foreign affairs VPs and what not!

as for the SLU, they are becomming more organized, and a very hostile flag

ORGANISED? If you call the Sealand miltary organised then sure.

[Civil Arabia]

Really, you think the SLU will end the world, don't you? Not that they aren't as bad, but still.

The Fascists hate civil and political rights, which you claim have great merit. You might as well scrap them, then you'll be just like the Fascists and we'd have no need for a UCN. How about that?

[Australian Asia]

IFA/UCN Peace Agreement
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We the members of the UCN have concluded to propose a peace agreement with the the IFA. Though our government philosophies differ, our economic ideals are similar. We propose peace and trade in the face of ever present socialist nations and alliances. Socialism threatens both of our factions, and will never cease in its attempts to convert.

As stern Capitalists though, we would also like to offer trade agreements between IFA nations and UCN nations. Such trade offers the existance of a stronger faction against the threat of socialism.

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Yeah, It's good. But, as they really hate socialism, we should play on their emotions and use this hate for our profit.

[Civil Arabia]

This isn't Capitalism, this is anti-Socialism. Instead of discussing your own ideals, all you people have done is attack the left and praised the ideology of Hitler's best friend. Good going.

[Lizardiar]

I'm kinda against Hitler.....I just like capitalism, not socialism.

[Augmark]

How about you leave. Some forms of Fascism allow capitalism. Socialism does not. Not in the way we would like to exist. As a conglomerate of mega corporations myself, the SLU is threatening, and would never allow corporations to exist.

Capitalism is inatley anti socialism, because its existance is what socialism preaches against.

We are debating the issue

[Spooty]

CAG and UNTO?

they could be valuable allies...the IFA may be too risky for now.

where are my foreign affairs VPs and what not!

as for the SLU, they are becomming more organized, and a very hostile flag

ORGANISED? If you call the Sealand miltary organised then sure.

NS is an amazing topsy turvey land of sillyness (also don't insult my Sealand friends!) the less organized the Alliance the higher its longevity, look at the CA-GASN war from the old forums, the GASN were at the peak of an organized NS Alliance, but because it was so organized every member had to pay attention to its minutia and could not take a break from the alliance without dropping out all together, compare with the CA which had the simple agenda of "Kill, Kill everything." so its members were obligated only to the extent of pointing out new places to steal oil from, members dropped out and in freely, which alliance do you think lasted to the end days of the old forums?

Also, I can make a newer more dangerous looking flag, if you're looking for something in the coat of arms direction, it'll take me some time though.

[Australian Asia]

@civil arabia:
Not at all. to tell the truth, i am against fascism even more, because i think that civil rights are more important than economy, but we can't fight with anyone - both socialists and fascist. We must pick - civil rights of economy. Just check up the name of the alliance, in case if you've forgotten something.