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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:02 am

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Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:04 am

I guess it is a good time for me. :)
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Postby Mariadonato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:05 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

millions against a billion? i can kill your whole population
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Postby Albrante » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:05 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

Oi keep the colonialism out of this ;)

Mariadonato wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

sounds like a plan,now,what about after im in? do i dig in and fight it out,or do i just push through?

Well the modern battle field is dominated by technology, something you are lacking in. I suggest digging and waging a guerrilla campaign until you break the back of the enemy, then launch an offensive through the war-weary enemy. But as I said with your tech that would be risky.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:06 am

Mariadonato wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

millions against a billion? i can kill your whole population

Well you dont have even machine guns. How will you defend against thousands of tanks, bombing????
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:07 am

Albrante wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

Oi keep the colonialism out of this ;)

Oi.. Why?
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Postby Albrante » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:07 am

Mariadonato wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

millions against a billion? i can kill your whole population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
"It matters who has the bigger stick but it matters a hell of a lot more who is swinging it"
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Postby Mariadonato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:09 am

Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

millions against a billion? i can kill your whole population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
"It matters who has the bigger stick but it matters a lot more who is swing it"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad
"retreat? hell,we're attacking in another direction!"
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:09 am

Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

millions against a billion? i can kill your whole population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
"It matters who has the bigger stick but it matters a hell of a lot more who is swinging it"

Exactly solders cant attack aircraft with out a AA guns.
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Postby Albrante » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:10 am

Mariadonato wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

millions against a billion? i can kill your whole population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
"It matters who has the bigger stick but it matters a lot more who is swing it"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad
"retreat? hell,we're attacking in another direction!"

That was more a breakdown of the Nazi Blitzkrieg doctrine, which negated the experience and technology and it boiled down to Russian pincer against Germany's lack of food.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:11 am

Mariadonato wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

millions against a billion? i can kill your whole population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
"It matters who has the bigger stick but it matters a lot more who is swing it"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad
"retreat? hell,we're attacking in another direction!"

Well then lets make this a historical battle. and lets see what will win, quality or quantity.
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Postby Mariadonato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:12 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Albrante wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:i bearly have machineguns

Now that presents problems...
How about two separate attacks from two separate parts of the border then closing them in a pincer movement, cutting off the patrol forces and forcing them to surrender. Then as with the last plan pour infantry into the new land.

Well then, I guess we can carry this on. I will pour my tanks and millions of solders (fully armed) and will take away Mariadonato as colony.

millions against a billion? i can kill your whole population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
"It matters who has the bigger stick but it matters a lot more who is swing it"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad
"retreat? hell,we're attacking in another direction!"

Well then lets make this a historical battle.



ok,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chosin_Reservoir
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Postby Mariadonato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:13 am

and i have soviet china early 1960's tech,actually
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:14 am

Mariadonato wrote:and i have soviet china early 1960's tech,actually

Well then you have to compromise on number.
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Postby Mariadonato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:16 am

how so?
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Postby Albrante » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:16 am

Mariadonato wrote:ok,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chosin_Reservoir

Thats an example of Quality>Quantity...
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:16 am

Maybe you should talk to someone who has experience, and figure out a realistic armed force for your country based on it's size, economy, military spending, and culture. The notion that your whole country is militarized makes no sense in any way. How did you get a population of 1.2 billion without any means to produce food ever? how did you come across the few machineguns that you do have? How would you defend against a few missiles that could destroy legions of your soldier-citizens? Like I said, if you are actually looking for an RP, you should talk to someone who knows what they are doing, and figure out realistic numbers.
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Postby Mariadonato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:20 am

ok,ill lower my troop streangth to 500,000,000 [china's millitary,i might add] is that good enough?
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:21 am

Mariadonato wrote:ok,ill lower my troop streangth to 500,000,000 [china's millitary,i might add] is that good enough?

Well still you will not have good technology.
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Postby Mariadonato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:22 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:ok,ill lower my troop streangth to 500,000,000 [china's millitary,i might add] is that good enough?

Well still you will not have good technology.



so? i can defend against japan! and anyone else! you ever defend against japan? its hard!
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Postby Albrante » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:23 am

Der Teutoniker wrote:Maybe you should talk to someone who has experience, and figure out a realistic armed force for your country based on it's size, economy, military spending, and culture. The notion that your whole country is militarized makes no sense in any way. How did you get a population of 1.2 billion without any means to produce food ever? how did you come across the few machineguns that you do have? How would you defend against a few missiles that could destroy legions of your soldier-citizens? Like I said, if you are actually looking for an RP, you should talk to someone who knows what they are doing, and figure out realistic numbers.

Earlier I crunched some numbers based from the Information Desk:
5% of 1.20700 billion = 60,350,000
That would be the most possible, sustainable force.
Assuming it was all an army group then half of all man and materiel would be support, for every combatant soldier you need a logistics soldier, for every tank you need one truck. So as I said he can have no more than 30 Million soldiers. Even then he has no navy or air-force...
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Postby Mariadonato » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:25 am

Albrante wrote:
Der Teutoniker wrote:Maybe you should talk to someone who has experience, and figure out a realistic armed force for your country based on it's size, economy, military spending, and culture. The notion that your whole country is militarized makes no sense in any way. How did you get a population of 1.2 billion without any means to produce food ever? how did you come across the few machineguns that you do have? How would you defend against a few missiles that could destroy legions of your soldier-citizens? Like I said, if you are actually looking for an RP, you should talk to someone who knows what they are doing, and figure out realistic numbers.

Earlier I crunched some numbers based from the Information Desk:
5% of 1.20700 billion = 60,350,000
That would be the most possible, sustainable force.
Assuming it was all an army group then half of all man and materiel would be support, for every combatant soldier you need a logistics soldier, for every tank you need one truck. So as I said he can have no more than 30 Million soldiers. Even then he has no navy or air-force...


your wrong,china has 500,000,000 soldiers,including navy and airforce,the rest of the population makes food and guns and bullets
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Postby Albrante » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:25 am

Mariadonato wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:
Mariadonato wrote:ok,ill lower my troop streangth to 500,000,000 [china's millitary,i might add] is that good enough?

Well still you will not have good technology.



so? i can defend against japan! and anyone else! you ever defend against japan? its hard!

Yeah, Japan is was, an offensive machine, the yanks did the right thing and forced them onto the defensive, were they were no were near as competent.

Nowadays its reversed and Japan has little offensive capability, although they can defend quite well.
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:25 am

Albrante wrote:Earlier I crunched some numbers based from the Information Desk:
5% of 1.20700 billion = 60,350,000
That would be the most possible, sustainable force.
Assuming it was all an army group then half of all man and materiel would be support, for every combatant soldier you need a logistics soldier, for every tank you need one truck. So as I said he can have no more than 30 Million soldiers. Even then he has no navy or air-force...


Oh, of course, and such a large military would be very expensive, assuming either extremely high spending, or decent spending, and a great economy.
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:26 am

Mariadonato wrote:your wrong,china has 500,000,000 soldiers,including navy and airforce,the rest of the population makes food and guns and bullets


I really doubt this. Source?

Edit: According to wikipedia, it's closer to 3.5 million active soldiers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China
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Austin Setzer wrote:We found a couple of ancient documents, turned them into the bible, and now its the symbol of christianity.

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Communism and anarchy; same unachievable end, different impractical means.

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