A Nation Divided (OOC | TWI ONLY)

[Ostehaar]

So... ARRF should get ready? :P

[Noronica]

So... ARRF should get ready?

I think being on alert would be good. Shall we create a provision within the ARRF organisation to form a bigger allied force when going to war outside the Argean as we discussed or should it be a decision made later in the RP to form a larger force?

[Ostehaar]

So... ARRF should get ready? :P

I think being on alert would be good. Shall we create a provision within the ARRF organisation to form a bigger allied force when going to war outside the Argean as we discussed or should it be a decision made later in the RP to form a larger force?

I think we should keep it for later discussions ICly.

[Bhikkustan]

I can't see this working while the EUSR is banned from the league...

[Noronica]

I can't see this working while the EUSR is banned from the league...

The League can't authorise military action (other than peacekeepers) so Coalitions will be formed independently. The EUSR can support the People's Socialist Democratic Party to claim territory and help bring down the Government. Maybe the EUSR and other coalitions on the island make a temporary alliance to take down the Government and then relations break down again when land is being split, (something like the Yalta and Potsdam Conference in WWII). That's only an idea though.

TL;DR - you don't need the League's approval, it would just be better to wait until people start condemning the actions of Charbagnia.

[Corindia]

So... ARRF should get ready?

I think being on alert would be good. Shall we create a provision within the ARRF organisation to form a bigger allied force when going to war outside the Argean as we discussed or should it be a decision made later in the RP to form a larger force?

I could be down for the "bigger allied force" depending on what the MSTO does. Can't imagine the MSTO and ARRF opposing each other though, just maybe not coordinating particularly closely. Not too bad of a worst case scenario.

[Albion Invicta]

Noronica, JEF will make a statement today on the situation - would you like us to just condemn the attacks and push for weapon inspectors, or would you like JEF to begin deploying assets to the area?

If so, Humanitarian or strike?

[New Aapelistan]

I don't know about you guys, but a conference about splitting the land (similiar to Yalta, mentioned earlier) would be interesting in my opinion.

[Noronica]

Noronica, JEF will make a statement today on the situation - would you like us to just condemn the attacks and push for weapon inspectors, or would you like JEF to begin deploying assets to the area?

If so, Humanitarian or strike?

I think weapon inspectors would make sense as to jump to military action now could have negative connotations for jumping the gun. Once chemical weapons are found and Charbagnia grows much more aggressive, then military action would make sense.

I don't know about you guys, but a conference about splitting the land (similiar to Yalta, mentioned earlier) would be interesting in my opinion.

I think that would be very interesting as then we could see the dynamic between the EUSR and the other nations involved which is rarely seen.

As I said before, brief cooperation to take down the Charbagnian administration would be very interesting, especially once tensions rise in the conference.

[Bravo Rio]

Anyway my intelligence agency could intervene?

[Albion Invicta]

I think weapon inspectors would make sense as to jump to military action now could have negative connotations for jumping the gun. Once chemical weapons are found and Charbagnia grows much more aggressive, then military action would make sense.

Back to the good, old-fashioned 'salami tactics' ...

[The Socialist Republics of Combrekniza]

Seems Interesting...I'm actually interested to help one of the Counter-Rebels due to Combrekniza's history being well,Complicated with the Rest of the East,it's like a Tito-Stalin Situation back then.
Anyways,i'm Interested in Joining,How could i apply/Join the RP?(i'm in TWI and in the map don't worry)

[The Socialist Republics of Combrekniza]

If there's a more Moderate Socialist group/a Left Leaning democratic group i'll be happy to support it Indirectly by Providing intel through Espionage via the Combreknizan version of the KGB,and by Weapons due to Combrekniza holding a pretty moderate by tech wise Storage/Reserve weapons,i Might even set up a propoganda campaign for soldiers to Volunteer on becoming Advisors/Voluntary Forces.

[Noronica]

Alright guys, sorry for the long wait. Do you think it would be safe to introduce the case of Charbagnia to the League? Its silent and has passed the resolution - also, it has been a while since the attack happened.

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Combrekniza - That could be interesting. You might want to coordinate with Bhikkustan and New Aapelistan or you can try and outmanoeuvre them to get more power on the island for yourself? I say this as they will be supporting Socialist groups.

[Verdon]

Alright guys, sorry for the long wait. Do you think it would be safe to introduce the case of Charbagnia to the League? Its silent and has passed the resolution - also, it has been a while since the attack happened.

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Combrekniza - That could be interesting. You might want to coordinate with Bhikkustan and New Aapelistan or you can try and outmanoeuvre them to get more power on the island for yourself? I say this as they will be supporting Socialist groups.

Yeah go ahead. Was waiting for assignment of judges so that the trial could get moved to the ICJ thread, but this might spur that on so...
Eager to start plotting.

[Noronica]

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=343508&p=32715174#p32715174

League post. Hopefully this will spark conversation.

[The Socialist Republics of Combrekniza]

Alright guys, sorry for the long wait. Do you think it would be safe to introduce the case of Charbagnia to the League? Its silent and has passed the resolution - also, it has been a while since the attack happened.

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Combrekniza - That could be interesting. You might want to coordinate with Bhikkustan and New Aapelistan or you can try and outmanoeuvre them to get more power on the island for yourself? I say this as they will be supporting Socialist groups.

What kind of SOcialist Groups?,I'll only support Socialist Groups that are more MODERATE,Like Socialist-Democrats,since we don't really want another Authoritarian Communist Republic.

[Noronica]

Good question. The People's Socialist Democratic Party is split between two factions, those that want to side with the EUSR and create a state as you described while the other side is more moderate. This should be an interesting dynamic if both sides split completely.

[The Socialist Republics of Combrekniza]

Good question. The People's Socialist Democratic Party is split between two factions, those that want to side with the EUSR and create a state as you described while the other side is more moderate. This should be an interesting dynamic if both sides split completely.

I'd Support the PSD As long as the Moderate faction is there,but if it splits up i'll give my support to the PSD,Until then i'll send spies and advisors that are aimed on training the MODERATE Troops and regiments of they're army,while encouraging the Party to break up into two while sending and recruiting Saboteurs to support the Moderate PSD forces.

[Albion Invicta]

Anyway my intelligence agency could intervene?

Think you might need to expand on that point. Tell us what you had in mind.

[Bhikkustan]

Good question. The People's Socialist Democratic Party is split between two factions, those that want to side with the EUSR and create a state as you described while the other side is more moderate. This should be an interesting dynamic if both sides split completely.

We want to make an east germany like nation. And after the reforms we would pressure the CDR to liberalise with us, allowing the moderates some power.

[Noronica]

We want to make an east germany like nation. And after the reforms we would pressure the CDR to liberalise with us, allowing the moderates some power.

Okay, that makes sense. I think Combrekniza could help pressuring the EUSR into allowing the moderates more power? (This is just an idea, you may discard if you wish). I'm glad you're looking to make an East Germany-like nation as that's what I hoped would happen.

[Noronica]

Also, I think I'm going to set up an IC thread once the League investigators are sent, I've waited a wee bit too long.

[Verdon]

Should this be a league-approved action to form an investigative team, or did you want the team to just form naturally and be sent on their way? As it stands, Noronica has the floor in the league and could just be asking for nations to volunteer, or are you rallying for official action? i.e. resolution

[Noronica]

Should this be a league-approved action to form an investigative team, or did you want the team to just form naturally and be sent on their way? As it stands, Noronica has the floor in the league and could just be asking for nations to volunteer, or are you rallying for official action? i.e. resolution

I feel official action would allow for more trust when the results positively identify WMD's and Sarin. With a volunteer-group, other nations might feel there is a bias. Noronica would be looking for official evidence backed up by the League to then sanction an invasion.