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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Shackley » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:28 am

1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Shackley wrote:I mean I've already disavowed any notion that we requested those missiles. Bloody hell I was just expecting humanitarian aid as a cute gesture at the end of the war and a talking point in the negotiations, not another bloody uproar that may well drag this shit out for who knows how long?


Oh don't worry with IC military reforms from 2005 to 2017, the USSR has had pretty good results with mock airborne invasions, I'd give it about a week or two longer. Maybe less given I think the RP responds to IRL time and today is the 101st anniversary of the October Revolution so the USSR will have more of a morale boost and troops will want to get operations over quickly to return to the USSR for celebrations.


Fucking charming. Don't want to sound like a complete cunt OOC but I'm so glad my only ally, with all the limited presence they've had, may well have turned somewhat successful peace talks into a fucking stalinist invasion.
This is getting out of hand, I'd appreciate some degree of grace and cooperation between players.
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:31 am

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Oh don't worry with IC military reforms from 2005 to 2017, the USSR has had pretty good results with mock airborne invasions, I'd give it about a week or two longer. Maybe less given I think the RP responds to IRL time and today is the 101st anniversary of the October Revolution so the USSR will have more of a morale boost and troops will want to get operations over quickly to return to the USSR for celebrations.


Fucking charming. Don't want to sound like a complete cunt OOC but I'm so glad my only ally, with all the limited presence they've had, may well have turned somewhat successful peace talks into a fucking stalinist invasion.
This is getting out of hand, I'd appreciate some degree of grace and cooperation between players.


To be fair it isn't entirely my fault... Tovakia had the idea of the missiles I'm just responding as I normally would.
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Postby Shackley » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:34 am

1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
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Fucking charming. Don't want to sound like a complete cunt OOC but I'm so glad my only ally, with all the limited presence they've had, may well have turned somewhat successful peace talks into a fucking stalinist invasion.
This is getting out of hand, I'd appreciate some degree of grace and cooperation between players.


To be fair it isn't entirely my fault... Tovakia had the idea of the missiles I'm just responding as I normally would.


I know, I know. Wasn't saying it's your fault, honestly I'm quite pissed at Tovakia for not asking about this first considering the outcome. I would appreciate it if we could be a touch more rational and focus more on the ongoing negotiations?
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:38 am

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To be fair it isn't entirely my fault... Tovakia had the idea of the missiles I'm just responding as I normally would.


I know, I know. Wasn't saying it's your fault, honestly I'm quite pissed at Tovakia for not asking about this first considering the outcome. I would appreciate it if we could be a touch more rational and focus more on the ongoing negotiations?


Of course.
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Postby Shackley » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:47 am

1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Shackley wrote:
I know, I know. Wasn't saying it's your fault, honestly I'm quite pissed at Tovakia for not asking about this first considering the outcome. I would appreciate it if we could be a touch more rational and focus more on the ongoing negotiations?


Of course.


Cheers. I don't mean to be rude but this whole thing does stress me out somewhat. While RP can be fun I've got college shit and would prefer to get this cleaned up so I can participate in smaller, more casual RPs.
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:50 am

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1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Of course.


Cheers. I don't mean to be rude but this whole thing does stress me out somewhat. While RP can be fun I've got college shit and would prefer to get this cleaned up so I can participate in smaller, more casual RPs.


Completely understandable of course, I've been doing rps on some of my other puppets, the others involved in which are usually busy which is why I've put more focus on this pretty much. I've nothing else to do.
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Postby Anglya » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:04 pm

I'm mainly just planning to send humanitarian assistance and see what happens, so...
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:55 pm

Apologies... I kind of misjudged were the war was when I sent the missiles.


I want to make this clear and I will do so officially in the RP... any invasion of Shackley will be met with full military action.
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Postby Allanea » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:37 am

OOC: Can I know why on Earth we are discussing invading Shackley over something that Tovakia is ostensibly doing?

Literally all this calls for is interning Tovakia's ships. Or scutting them and taking the crew prisoner for the duration of the war, after elaborate photography is taken of the missiles.

Your men are already on board the ships, there's no meaningful way the ships can get to Shackley.
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:57 am

Allanea wrote:OOC: Can I know why on Earth we are discussing invading Shackley over something that Tovakia is ostensibly doing?

Literally all this calls for is interning Tovakia's ships. Or scutting them and taking the crew prisoner for the duration of the war, after elaborate photography is taken of the missiles.

Your men are already on board the ships, there's no meaningful way the ships can get to Shackley.


I was already going to take the ships back to Crimea to have them more thoroughly searched after finding the missile parts and send the crew to a gulag for the duration of the war.
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:43 am

1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Allanea wrote:OOC: Can I know why on Earth we are discussing invading Shackley over something that Tovakia is ostensibly doing?

Literally, all this calls for is interning Tovakia's ships. Or scutting them and taking the crew prisoner for the duration of the war, after elaborate photography is taken of the missiles.

Your men are already on board the ships, there's no meaningful way the ships can get to Shackley.


I was already going to take the ships back to Crimea to have them more thoroughly searched after finding the missile parts and send the crew to a gulag for the duration of the war.


The armed men could kill the inspectors, and the subs and P-8A could try and protect the convoy as it speeds towards Shackley under immense air cover... But it seems like that would escalate things. Which is something Shackley does not wish to do? Therefore I will submit to the actions taken against my ships.
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Postby Allanea » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:33 am

The problem is not so much that there are inspectors, but that they have been landed - i.e. the USSR knows where precisely the ships are, and could easily open fire at them with its vast firepower, which would near-inevitably lead to a sinking.

But at any rate since you decided to go the sensible route, we will all be sensible, halleluja.
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:37 am

Allanea wrote:The problem is not so much that there are inspectors, but that they have been landed - i.e. the USSR knows where precisely the ships are, and could easily open fire at them with its vast firepower, which would near-inevitably lead to a sinking.

But at any rate since you decided to go the sensible route, we will all be sensible, halleluja.


The Soviets found the missile parts.
....Good heavens just look at the time...
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Postby Anglya » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:47 am

Preparing the post of the Red Cross aid ships coming. This could still go dangerous places, but let's see.
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:24 pm

Anglya wrote:Preparing the post of the Red Cross aid ships coming. This could still go dangerous places, but let's see.


As long as there's no weapons your ships are bound to pass soviet screening.
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Postby Anglya » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:33 pm

1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Anglya wrote:Preparing the post of the Red Cross aid ships coming. This could still go dangerous places, but let's see.


As long as there's no weapons your ships are bound to pass soviet screening.


There will be a U.S. Navy force in train so as to keep your boys honest. We trust you as much as you trust Shackley. If they behave, I foresee no issues.
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:43 pm

Anglya wrote:
1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
As long as there's no weapons your ships are bound to pass soviet screening.


There will be a U.S. Navy force in train so as to keep your boys honest. We trust you as much as you trust Shackley. If they behave, I foresee no issues.


Maybe I should be clearer. I mean as as there's no weapons found on your ships they should pass screening. meaning nothing the soviets found on Tovakia's ships.
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Postby Anglya » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:59 pm

1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:Maybe I should be clearer. I mean as as there's no weapons found on your ships they should pass screening. meaning nothing the soviets found on Tovakia's ships.


I got that. I was telling you the U.S.N. has sent a force to secure the Red Cross ships and their crews and prevent undue abuse or presumption on the part of Soviet forces. If that problem does not happen they will happily loiter at sea until the Red Cross convoy concludes their business and departs.
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:07 pm

Anglya wrote:
1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:Maybe I should be clearer. I mean as as there's no weapons found on your ships they should pass screening. meaning nothing the soviets found on Tovakia's ships.


I got that. I was telling you the U.S.N. has sent a force to secure the Red Cross ships and their crews and prevent undue abuse or presumption on the part of Soviet forces. If that problem does not happen they will happily loiter at sea until the Red Cross convoy concludes their business and departs.


Wellp. Still. Gonna be fun. The cold war all over again with the Soviet navy and the USN in one place. Tension so thick in the air you could cut it with a knife.
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Postby The United Artherian Federation » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:53 pm

So I know I'm coming in like three months after I said I could RP and it's now winding down, but I have one question for my first post.
Nobody other than the NPC US occupies the U.S. correct? My nation IRL occupies the U.S. from Montana eastward. If this conflicts with anything I can fallback on me being an island nation in the Atlantic.

Also, I'd be coming as a state that is just monitoring the whole thing and maybe occasionally intervening, as I said before.

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Postby Shackley » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:21 pm

The United Artherian Federation wrote:So I know I'm coming in like three months after I said I could RP and it's now winding down, but I have one question for my first post.
Nobody other than the NPC US occupies the U.S. correct? My nation IRL occupies the U.S. from Montana eastward. If this conflicts with anything I can fallback on me being an island nation in the Atlantic.

Also, I'd be coming as a state that is just monitoring the whole thing and maybe occasionally intervening, as I said before.

From what I've heard from Allanea this thread is low-key over my man. Might be a bit late to get involved.
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Postby Allanea » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:36 pm

As I understand Allanea's interest in this thread is concluded, as is the USSR's.

Allanea has: 1) Demonstrated it will react with competently-administered, violent, force when someone attacks its coalition partners or allies. 2) Gotten itself some sweet islands out of the deal. 3) Deterred (hopefully) Shackley from becoming a de-facto slaver state.

The USSR has gotten compensation for the original insult in the form of 12 billion dollars which is frankly more than what it had originally wanted IIRC.

So we view ourselves as victors of the war, probably Cassie and Fikatsia will exchange congratulations off-screen, etc.

Since Shackley has no significant interest in prolonging the war (it lost, but avoided significant national humiliation and/or national disaster), there's no sense to going on with the thread, particularly since Shackley's mainland has not been damaged and so there's little in the way of economic reconstruction to do.
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