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Postby Anglya » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:13 pm

Shackley wrote:A man can accomplish much with a strong case of shellshock and a weighty pair of bollocks


The only guy I feel sorry for in that post is that Paramarine lt. colonel, who was probably just there for security and trying to respond to a threat. He was no more a shaper of policy than Rimmer is himself, and he still wound up dead.
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Postby Shackley » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:30 pm

Anglya wrote:
Shackley wrote:A man can accomplish much with a strong case of shellshock and a weighty pair of bollocks


The only guy I feel sorry for in that post is that Paramarine lt. colonel, who was probably just there for security and trying to respond to a threat. He was no more a shaper of policy than Rimmer is himself, and he still wound up dead.


They were all just doing their jobs to be fair. Higgins probably had the most blood on his hands. Harold was guilty not by choice but by circumstance and he'll probably be allowed to live, albeit as an abdicated private citizen.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:43 pm

Anglya wrote:
Allanea wrote:I don't want to get into a very technical discussion here, but let me just say that there are several hundred Soviet ships involved, and so it seems to me that trying to sneak a cargo ship of significant size past them would be at best a highly risky proposition.

In relation to the aid aircraft in question, supposing for the sake of plot that they are not spotted then this would not in a significant way alter Allanea's position towards your nation. However its' also true that, as long as a state of war exists between Allanea and the Soviets on one part, and the Shackleyans on another, that we cannot allow cargo aircraft or ships through the blockade, and so if the aircraft or ship is detected we would be forced to warn it away, or failing that, to shoot at it.


Risky, absolutely. Impossible? Not in the slightest. I am not ignorant of the technical details.

Firing on a ship or aircraft operating under the auspices of the Red Cross could be argued to constitute a war crime, and it's certainly a dick move, but leaving that aside, that seems like the basically standard response for NS.

I see Admiral Rimmer is feeling...adventurous.

Using Red Cross insignia illegitimately is perfidy, a war crime in itself.
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:53 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Anglya wrote:
Risky, absolutely. Impossible? Not in the slightest. I am not ignorant of the technical details.

Firing on a ship or aircraft operating under the auspices of the Red Cross could be argued to constitute a war crime, and it's certainly a dick move, but leaving that aside, that seems like the basically standard response for NS.

I see Admiral Rimmer is feeling...adventurous.

Using Red Cross insignia illegitimately is perfidy, a war crime in itself.



He is a legit Aid organization though, he is a non-belligerent...
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Postby Allanea » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:18 pm

It should be noted that, in the NS universe, there are no international treaties that Allanea is party to that would limit its rules of engagement in any way. Moreover, Allanean naval commanders have no meaningful way of knowing whether the ships and planes that might be headed to Shackley are carrying aid, or perhaps munitions. As such, Allanea has issued fairly clear warnings to ships and aircraft that would seek to traverse the area that is controlled by our warships, and I understand that the USSR maintains a similar policy. The Red Cross of Anglya has ICly received very clear warnings on this subject, and to try and operate aircraft without proper clearance in an area where they’ve been adequately warned they’d be fired upon would be at best irresponsible.

Now, it is still possible to find a solution to the issue diplomatically. On the other hand, maybe Anglya believes it will benefit from getting a plane or two shot down (perhaps by provoking the public in Anglya to support a war?).

(OOC speaking, if you want to RP that a small number of planes gets through the blockade unnoticed I am game).
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:18 pm

Grater Tovakia wrote:

He is a legit Aid organization though, he is a non-belligerent...


Finally replied to your "attack" and given you didn't designate exactly which building you "attacked", since the Kremlin consists of multiple buildings. I took the liberty of putting it out of the way.
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Postby Shackley » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:00 pm

Big oof, haha. I'm in need of some sleep but I'll make a response tomorrow probably.
Let's hope Allanea is less... militant in reply.
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:48 am

Post is up, sort of short but what more could I say.
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Postby Shackley » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:51 am

I'll get something up later in response
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:06 pm

Nice post, hopefully Allanea does not attack as we only have humanitarian aid (and silkworm anti-ship missles/launchers)
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:16 pm

Grater Tovakia wrote:Nice post, hopefully Allanea does not attack as we only have humanitarian aid (and silkworm anti-ship missles/launchers)


It's not Allanea you need to be worried about.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:55 pm

Grater Tovakia wrote:Nice post, hopefully Allanea does not attack as we only have humanitarian aid (and silkworm anti-ship missles/launchers)

Did you paint giant Red Crosses on these vessels bearing AShM's?
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Postby Shackley » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:52 pm

aww fuck the Red Cross of all things is going to disturb the peace
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:13 pm

Shackley wrote:aww fuck the Red Cross of all things is going to disturb the peace


Who knew they'd be the ones to get the soviet union aggrivated enough to be tempted to turn Shackley into a nation scale gulag
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Postby Shackley » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:54 pm

Not sure what to do next, feels like everything's drawing to a close (finally). If somebody wants to do anymore with regards to the Tovakian aid that's fine, don't mind adding to that when it comes up.

Aside from that I think all that's left to do is get a treaty underway.
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:30 pm

Shackley wrote:Not sure what to do next, feels like everything's drawing to a close (finally). If somebody wants to do anymore with regards to the Tovakian aid that's fine, don't mind adding to that when it comes up.

Aside from that I think all that's left to do is get a treaty underway.


Yeah I will get a post up tonight
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:12 pm

I must say I am intrigued by the ongoing attempts to secret 12.8 tons of high explosive shaped charges and two dozen tons of jet fuel away from the Soviets.
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Postby Allanea » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:14 am

Made even more bizarre by the reality that the peace negotiations are ongoing as we speak.
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:07 am

Allanea wrote:Made even more bizarre by the reality that the peace negotiations are ongoing as we speak.


Oh don't worry, the USSR is going to bring that crashing down with finding the missile parts.
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Postby Shackley » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:13 am

1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Allanea wrote:Made even more bizarre by the reality that the peace negotiations are ongoing as we speak.


Oh don't worry, the USSR is going to bring that crashing down with finding the missile parts.


Fucking brilliant. I often say to myself "You know what would make this better? If the thread refused to die for another fucking year because two less-active players had a misunderstanding"

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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:17 am

Shackley wrote:
1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Oh don't worry, the USSR is going to bring that crashing down with finding the missile parts.


Fucking brilliant. I often say to myself "You know what would make this better? If the thread refused to die for another fucking year because two less-active players had a misunderstanding"

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To be honest, I think the first sign of this being likely would've been the NKVD would be doing the searching.
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Postby Shackley » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:18 am

1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Shackley wrote:
Fucking brilliant. I often say to myself "You know what would make this better? If the thread refused to die for another fucking year because two less-active players had a misunderstanding"

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To be honest, I think the first sign of this being likely would've been the NKVD would be doing the searching.


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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:19 am

Shackley wrote:
1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
To be honest, I think the first sign of this being likely would've been the NKVD would be doing the searching.


You can lube up the anvil but that won't make it go in any easier.


At this point it'd be more accurate to say jackhammer but yes, I'm aware.
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Postby Shackley » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:22 am

I mean I've already disavowed any notion that we requested those missiles. Bloody hell I was just expecting humanitarian aid as a cute gesture at the end of the war and a talking point in the negotiations, not another bloody uproar that may well drag this shit out for who knows how long?
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Postby 1st Union of Soviet Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 am

Shackley wrote:I mean I've already disavowed any notion that we requested those missiles. Bloody hell I was just expecting humanitarian aid as a cute gesture at the end of the war and a talking point in the negotiations, not another bloody uproar that may well drag this shit out for who knows how long?


Oh don't worry with IC military reforms from 2005 to 2017, the USSR has had pretty good results with mock airborne invasions, I'd give it about a week or two longer. Maybe less given I think the RP responds to IRL time and today is the 101st anniversary of the October Revolution so the USSR will have more of a morale boost and troops will want to get operations over quickly to return to the USSR for celebrations.
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