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Supreme Authority
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Postby Supreme Authority » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:39 pm

The Empire of Slavonia wrote:
Supreme Authority wrote:Note that nothing above PMT is allowed on Earth. Orbital bombardments are also banned. However, you could play FT in space only if you wish.


Sure, I'm fine with that. And orbital bombardments have always been something I found obnoxious and unoriginal, so that is okay with me as well

Sorry I missed you. Accepted.

The Coalition Theomilitary wrote:So are there actually any hard and fast rules as to what defines FT?

I see what I would probably consider to be a lot of PMT stuff being used, things that to me, would probably fit in early-mid FT. I can get like, for the sake of preventing things like people with energy shields that can shrug off tank rounds, or teleporting grenades... But things I see like the microshard warheads, some of the advanced assault rifles people are using, and even looking into how the Slayers are genetically modified super soldier cyborgs with power armor... I am failing to see a clearly defined line for what is definitively FT enough to not be allowed on the ground.

I am asking this because in the event I do end up throwing something into the ground war, I was under the impression I had to nerf myself pretty far, and I don't want to find out I brought a knife to a gunfight.

Formal apologies since this has been asked before, but I feel the answer that was given then is not particularly clear enough. I can understand the tech boundary more if this was just plain MT, or even WWII or WWI technology at play here, given the trench warfare, but this is clearly not the case.

In other news, I am working on a post and since Higher Japan has left, I am looking to stir things up a bit with who's left.
Well, this is one of the issues with PMT; nobody has a perfect idea of exactly what the future holds, and when it will hold it. Strict dividing lines are much easier to draw with, say, WWII or even MT. Traditionally on NS the dividing line between PMT/FT is FTL. A very good and well-known example of what I personally (n=1 opinion) consider PMT and not FT is much of the Command and Conquer series (scrin excluded ofc); no FTL and mostly recognizable military hardware, but outside the purview of today's technology.
I will admit that the microshard warheads probably push the PMT boundary a bit. Slayers though, surprisingly, are very much PMT, and nearly everything about them has at least a loose and artistically-licensed connection to real-world science.
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The Coalition Theomilitary
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Postby The Coalition Theomilitary » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:02 am

I... think I understand then. At this point it's more or less an exercise in good taste?

I mean obviously the actual dividing line between PMT and FT is the presence of FTL, but that's not something that exactly translates into ground combat very well, or at all. But PMT at least somewhat pretends to be realistic by extrapolating current science to technologies and applications into things that while theoretically possible, aren't currently feasible with MT technology/industrial bases?

I was assuming things like energy shields and teleportation was a no-no, but otherwise in my general library of sci-fi media, most things relating to ground or infantry scale combat still typically relies on largely PMT-y technology. So say Power armor, or at least powered exoskeletons, maybe railguns be they vehicular or hand-held, usage of advanced, but otherwise feasibly realistic material sciences, and etc, might be acceptable?

Heck, even space fighters capable of hypersonic speeds might have to nerf themselves because I doubt they are built to take the stresses of atmospheric friction while flying at their top speeds, etc.

Is any of this at all right?


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Chuching
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Postby Chuching » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:56 pm

Are there any democracies left attempting to capture the Overseers and put them on trial for war crimes? I agree that it would be somewhat more interesting than just having them extracted by myself/Bedetopia(who'd give them a new dictatorship) or The Cybertronian Empire and its allies(who'd probably torture them to death), but it's simply not happening if no democracies are participating.

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Pax Cybertronian
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Postby Pax Cybertronian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:11 pm

Chuching wrote:Are there any democracies left attempting to capture the Overseers and put them on trial for war crimes? I agree that it would be somewhat more interesting than just having them extracted by myself/Bedetopia(who'd give them a new dictatorship) or The Cybertronian Empire and its allies(who'd probably torture them to death), but it's simply not happening if no democracies are participating.

I'm starting to introduce Autobots whom oppose Megatron's regime into this RP (the skirmish in front of Megatron's barracks is an example) and I revealed some of my nation's past in my previous post. If it's alright with everyone, I'll create an application for the Autobot Commonwealth, though I'll likely play them through this nation.
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Olimpiada
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Postby Olimpiada » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:41 pm

Chuching wrote:Are there any democracies left attempting to capture the Overseers and put them on trial for war crimes? I agree that it would be somewhat more interesting than just having them extracted by myself/Bedetopia(who'd give them a new dictatorship) or The Cybertronian Empire and its allies(who'd probably torture them to death), but it's simply not happening if no democracies are participating.

I'm attempting to capture them, but a trial isn't likely. Don't expect a shot to the back of the head or anything though, killing a VIP like that is a waste as far as we're concerned.
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Supreme Authority
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Postby Supreme Authority » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:40 pm

The Coalition Theomilitary wrote:I... think I understand then. At this point it's more or less an exercise in good taste?

I mean obviously the actual dividing line between PMT and FT is the presence of FTL, but that's not something that exactly translates into ground combat very well, or at all. But PMT at least somewhat pretends to be realistic by extrapolating current science to technologies and applications into things that while theoretically possible, aren't currently feasible with MT technology/industrial bases?

I was assuming things like energy shields and teleportation was a no-no, but otherwise in my general library of sci-fi media, most things relating to ground or infantry scale combat still typically relies on largely PMT-y technology. So say Power armor, or at least powered exoskeletons, maybe railguns be they vehicular or hand-held, usage of advanced, but otherwise feasibly realistic material sciences, and etc, might be acceptable?

Heck, even space fighters capable of hypersonic speeds might have to nerf themselves because I doubt they are built to take the stresses of atmospheric friction while flying at their top speeds, etc.

Is any of this at all right?

I'd personally say that essentially all of that is right. Some people (myself included) also separate early-PMT from late-PMT in various ways. I draw that line (not relevant to this RP) at "plausible within 100 years", but it's also reasonable to define early-PMT as expected within the lifetime of someone on Earth today, and late-PMT as anything after that that's not FT.

Pax Cybertronian wrote:I'm starting to introduce Autobots whom oppose Megatron's regime into this RP (the skirmish in front of Megatron's barracks is an example) and I revealed some of my nation's past in my previous post. If it's alright with everyone, I'll create an application for the Autobot Commonwealth, though I'll likely play them through this nation.
As long as they're not any more powerful than the Decepticons, that's OK with me.

@Chuching, Olimpiada: The Council bunker happens to be under Guadalupador occupied territory, so anyone sympathetic to the O's would be at a bit of a disadvantage if trying to rescue them.
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The Autobot Commonwealth
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Postby The Autobot Commonwealth » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:07 am

Supreme Authority wrote:
Pax Cybertronian wrote:I'm starting to introduce Autobots whom oppose Megatron's regime into this RP (the skirmish in front of Megatron's barracks is an example) and I revealed some of my nation's past in my previous post. If it's alright with everyone, I'll create an application for the Autobot Commonwealth, though I'll likely play them through this nation.
As long as they're not any more powerful than the Decepticons, that's OK with me.

Thanks; they're not any stronger than the Decepticons.


Nation Name: The Autobot Commonwealth.
Leader's Name: Ultra Convoy.
Iron Alliance member? No.
GIL member? No.
UNSAA member? No.
Special Notes: This is a puppet nation of Pax Cybertronian. For backstory, the Autobots are political and military rivals of the Decepticons, who they fought in the Great War after Megatron assassinated Nominus Prime and his Senate and plunged Cybertron into the Great War. Eventually, the Decepticons conquered Cybertron and absorbed most of what was left of the old Cybertronian Empire (Star Sabre and Thunderclash's legions joined the Autobots), though the Great War still goes on even to this day. I will be playing as the Autobot Commonwealth through my main nation.
This is a puppet nation of Pax Cybertronian. They are the arch-nemesis of the Decepticon Empire (main nation) and are dedicated to stopping them once and for all.

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Supreme Authority
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Postby Supreme Authority » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:52 pm

The Autobot Commonwealth wrote:Thanks; they're not any stronger than the Decepticons.


Nation Name: The Autobot Commonwealth.
Leader's Name: Ultra Convoy.
Iron Alliance member? No.
GIL member? No.
UNSAA member? No.
Special Notes: This is a puppet nation of Pax Cybertronian. For backstory, the Autobots are political and military rivals of the Decepticons, who they fought in the Great War after Megatron assassinated Nominus Prime and his Senate and plunged Cybertron into the Great War. Eventually, the Decepticons conquered Cybertron and absorbed most of what was left of the old Cybertronian Empire (Star Sabre and Thunderclash's legions joined the Autobots), though the Great War still goes on even to this day. I will be playing as the Autobot Commonwealth through my main nation.

Accepted.
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Jackania yugo
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Postby Jackania yugo » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:22 am

1.This place still open?

2. What's happened so far?
This nation a funsion between capitalism and social democracy (the only type of socialism made to actually be incorporated into capitalist governments rather than trying to destroy it).

This nation is PMT/FT. Sometimes modern tech.

We sometimes use pokemorphs and digimon in our armed forces. Sometimes

We are technically centrist.

This nation is a reunited Yugoslavia (and also sometimes controls the UK as well).

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Chuching
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Postby Chuching » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:02 pm

I am planning on having a small part of Chuching secede and form its own country. Do I have permission to file an application for this nation?

UPDATE: I'll just file it below. Accept or reject it as you please.
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Neo-Draconian Empire
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Postby Neo-Draconian Empire » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:33 pm

Nation Name: Neo-Draconian Empire
Leader's Name: Admiral Lawrence Everett
Iron Alliance member? No
GIL member? No
UNSAA member? No
Special Notes: Megatron's broadcast to Chuching and attack on C.E.N.S.O.R. did not affect every citizen and every area equally. A sizeable portion of the populace did not even hear it. Most of these were located in the larger cities and surrounding area, which had particularly fortified broadcasting centers. On the other hand, the island city of Ying Seong was the hardest hit. All of its communications with the mainland were cut, and Cybertronian propaganda played freely for hours on end. Furthermore, the communications breakdown meant that Arch-Generalissimo Chutch's rebuttal of Megatron's speech was not shown to a single resident of the city. This meant considerably more people were swayed to the Cybertronian cause on the island - over 50% of civilians, and many high-ranking officials as well. This combined with a weak response to preliminary riots will lead to the city revolting.
Inspired by a historical empire formerly based in Chuching, Ying Seong will proclaim the dawn of the "Neo-Draconian Empire", still worshipping DEAREST LEADER but completely rejecting the sitting Arch-Generalissimo. It claims sovereignty over the Chuchingian mainland.

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Postby Supreme Authority » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:11 pm

Neo-Draconian Empire wrote:Nation Name: Neo-Draconian Empire
Leader's Name: Admiral Lawrence Everett
Iron Alliance member? No
GIL member? No
UNSAA member? No
Special Notes: Megatron's broadcast to Chuching and attack on C.E.N.S.O.R. did not affect every citizen and every area equally. A sizeable portion of the populace did not even hear it. Most of these were located in the larger cities and surrounding area, which had particularly fortified broadcasting centers. On the other hand, the island city of Ying Seong was the hardest hit. All of its communications with the mainland were cut, and Cybertronian propaganda played freely for hours on end. Furthermore, the communications breakdown meant that Arch-Generalissimo Chutch's rebuttal of Megatron's speech was not shown to a single resident of the city. This meant considerably more people were swayed to the Cybertronian cause on the island - over 50% of civilians, and many high-ranking officials as well. This combined with a weak response to preliminary riots will lead to the city revolting.
Inspired by a historical empire formerly based in Chuching, Ying Seong will proclaim the dawn of the "Neo-Draconian Empire", still worshipping DEAREST LEADER but completely rejecting the sitting Arch-Generalissimo. It claims sovereignty over the Chuchingian mainland.

Since it seems mostly confined to Chuching, accepted.
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Olimpiada
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Postby Olimpiada » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:59 pm

So, is this dead?
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I make exactly two exceptions from a fairly strict adherence to realism, and hate them both.

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Pax Cybertronian
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Postby Pax Cybertronian » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:03 pm

Olimpiada wrote:So, is this dead?

I’m still here. I’m just waiting for Chuching to post.
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Postby Guadalupador » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:32 pm

I too have to post.
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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:18 pm

Honestly real-life books are boring to read compared to NS roleplays. Should this RP manage to be completed in full then I'll try to read the entire thing. Hopefully the participants are still active.
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Chuching
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Postby Chuching » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:18 pm

Do not worry - my post is in progress. I am sorry for the delay; I imagine that in any other RP, I would've been kicked by now.
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