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Postby Ainslie » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:35 pm

Perhaps we offer scholarships into technical schools from our three nations open to our three populations?
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Postby Orsandia » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:22 pm

Samudera wrote:The Cooperative Union, in brief, is an economic union formed by a group of liberal democracies which have a treaty which spans laws, trade, education and immigration. It also has a common market between member nations. (OOC : could visit the dispatch https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=793637)

Samudera will be happy to cooperate with Orsandia regarding STEM educations. Samudera has many talents, and many will be happy to have a chance. A partnership will be beneficial to both of us, as Samudera will always need help from its neighbour to improve in its education sector. Along with rare opportunity to cooperate in technology industry with Orsandia. I hope Ainslie will be interested in this talk as well.

(OOC : im sorry if my english is unreadable, i tried my best)


Hmmmm.... As for STEM based education, I would like to focus our purposed efforts on grade school education in order to give the young in our countries the knowledge they need to be competitive and successful in this modern age. At the core of this initiative, I would also like to bolster the capabilities of our higher education systems with the funding they need in Science and Engineering to conduct research and keep each nation at the cutting-edge of research. We recently began pouring heavy amounts of Orsandocoins into overhauling and rebuilding our education system, and this would speed up that process. The University of Orsandia system is the top college system in our country, and we would be willing to set up a mutual organization/foundation with Samudera that can grant funds to scientific research, raise awareness of STEM education, improve choices in STEM for underrepresented groups, and act as the catalyst for the growth that shall follow. In addition, from our end we would be open to relaxing our visa laws to allow students from Samudera, Ainsile , and other nations to come study and perhaps work here as well. Im not sure if "Open borders" would suffice though, as Orsandia only shares a land border with Ainsile, while Samudera and Orsandia are seperated by ocean.

If you agree, I think we should give this potential agreement a working title. I think this has very good potential, and even moreso if Ainsile would be interested in it.
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Postby Orsandia » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Ainslie wrote:Perhaps we offer scholarships into technical schools from our three nations open to our three populations?


Not just technical schools, but this seems like a favorable proposition.
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Postby Ainslie » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:08 am

Orsandia wrote:
Ainslie wrote:Perhaps we offer scholarships into technical schools from our three nations open to our three populations?


Not just technical schools, but this seems like a favorable proposition.

We were asking this especially since we have what is called a STEM school, which prioritises the subject areas in senior years.
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Postby Orsandia » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:26 am

Ainslie wrote:
Orsandia wrote:
Not just technical schools, but this seems like a favorable proposition.

We were asking this especially since we have what is called a STEM school, which prioritises the subject areas in senior years.


Ah, I see. That makes sense. I would be open to that and the idea of STEM Scholarships for higher education in general. Thank you for clarifying Mr.Whitford.
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Postby Orsandia » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:26 am

Lets Move forward on this STEM education idea, shall we ?
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Postby Ainslie » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:56 am

Sure, is it scholarships we are planning? If so, I believe it is best to leave this to the respective experts in our nations to work this out from now if all three of us have agreed to this idea - and we should instead move onto another topic if that is the case.
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Postby Samudera » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:15 am

Orsandia wrote:Hmmmm.... As for STEM based education, I would like to focus our purposed efforts on grade school education in order to give the young in our countries the knowledge they need to be competitive and successful in this modern age. At the core of this initiative, I would also like to bolster the capabilities of our higher education systems with the funding they need in Science and Engineering to conduct research and keep each nation at the cutting-edge of research. We recently began pouring heavy amounts of Orsandocoins into overhauling and rebuilding our education system, and this would speed up that process. The University of Orsandia system is the top college system in our country, and we would be willing to set up a mutual organization/foundation with Samudera that can grant funds to scientific research, raise awareness of STEM education, improve choices in STEM for underrepresented groups, and act as the catalyst for the growth that shall follow. In addition, from our end we would be open to relaxing our visa laws to allow students from Samudera, Ainsile , and other nations to come study and perhaps work here as well. Im not sure if "Open borders" would suffice though, as Orsandia only shares a land border with Ainsile, while Samudera and Orsandia are seperated by ocean.

If you agree, I think we should give this potential agreement a working title. I think this has very good potential, and even moreso if Ainsile would be interested in it.

Samudera is already revamping its education system, modernisation is ongoing to ensure good quality of the education itself. I would welcome Ainslie and Orsandia help Samudera in the matters of education, as education is an important aspect of a nation. I'm myself is pleased to see if Ainslie, Orsandia and Samudera could cooperate in terms of this.

Regarding visa, i suggest we could discuss the possibility of a 30-day or more visa-free.
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Postby Ainslie » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:59 pm

I'm up for 60 days VISA free if everyone else is
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Postby Samudera » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:18 am

Since Samudera and Ainslie are already part of the CU, that means both of our countries border is open to the respective citizens. I think it's safe to assume that we only need to discuss visa agreement with Orsandia alone. This will ease any agreements regarding development in STEM and educations.
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Postby Ainslie » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:40 am

Samudera wrote:Since Samudera and Ainslie are already part of the CU, that means both of our countries border is open to the respective citizens. I think it's safe to assume that we only need to discuss visa agreement with Orsandia alone. This will ease any agreements regarding development in STEM and educations.

I share the views of the delegate from Samudera.
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Postby Orsandia » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:56 am

Ainslie wrote:
Samudera wrote:Since Samudera and Ainslie are already part of the CU, that means both of our countries border is open to the respective citizens. I think it's safe to assume that we only need to discuss visa agreement with Orsandia alone. This will ease any agreements regarding development in STEM and educations.

I share the views of the delegate from Samudera.


The Orsandian delgation is eager to hear the suggestions from you both. We are keen to move to bolster ties that would have great benefits for our next generation of leaders and innovators that will be at the forefront of change and prosperity in the years to come.
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Postby Samudera » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:21 am

I suggest we should discuss furthermore about education. A scholarship support from Orsandia and Ainslie could perhaps improve our education quality, with many improvements in the education sector.
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Postby Ainslie » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:58 am

Is what you are proposing a form of Orsandian-Ahnslen funding in the Samuderan education system?
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Postby Samudera » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:08 am

Ainslie wrote:Is what you are proposing a form of Orsandian-Ahnslen funding in the Samuderan education system?

Not just Samudera, but also in Ainslie and Orsandia.
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Postby Orsandia » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:12 pm

Samudera wrote:
Ainslie wrote:Is what you are proposing a form of Orsandian-Ahnslen funding in the Samuderan education system?

Not just Samudera, but also in Ainslie and Orsandia.


Yes, a multi nation deal.
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Postby Orsandia » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:55 pm

Orsandia wrote:
Samudera wrote:Not just Samudera, but also in Ainslie and Orsandia.


Yes, a multi nation deal.


We are willing to pledge an initial fund of 450 million Orsandocoins to help jumpstart this initiative, and will increase to match the amounts pledged by our Samuderan and Ahnslen counterparts.
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Postby Ainslie » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:35 pm

We will have to talk to our economic portions of the government, but over what time frame have you proposed this? Additionally, have we agreed on the mutual opening of embassies?
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Postby Orsandia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:05 am

Ainslie wrote:We will have to talk to our economic portions of the government, but over what time frame have you proposed this? Additionally, have we agreed on the mutual opening of embassies?


The Orsandian delegation would like to see this program grow into one with long term prominence. We envision an initial time frame of 5-10 years of funding with increases or maintenance if it proves to be mutually beneficial for our three nations in the long run.

As for embassies, we are currently planning to create an International district in the capitol of Guangfeng that shall house the future diplomatic missions of other nations in Orsandia. We are ready to finalize the establishment of an embassy in Arnton, and want to grant our agreement to allow Ainslie and Samudera to be the first two nations to establish a diplomatic mission in our fair state. If the Ahnslen goverment would be open to it, we would also be interested in establishing a consulate general in Wellington, and allowing Ainslie to establish their own consulate in our biggest city, Yang Kong.
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Postby Ainslie » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:11 am

5-10 years sounds good, although we cannot give you exact figures. Yes, a consulate in Wellington would work well, given the amount of traffic there would be on the Orsandia/Ainslie border. We are also interested in having a consulate in Yang Kong. We look forward to being able to open an embassy in your nation. When do you believe this will happen?
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Postby Orsandia » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:59 am

Ainslie wrote:5-10 years sounds good, although we cannot give you exact figures. Yes, a consulate in Wellington would work well, given the amount of traffic there would be on the Orsandia/Ainslie border. We are also interested in having a consulate in Yang Kong. We look forward to being able to open an embassy in your nation. When do you believe this will happen?


As soon as possible. We would like to begin construction upon the blessing from the Ahnslen Goverment.
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Postby Ainslie » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:55 am

Go for it. Give a week for all the annoying paperwork to go through and then you're all good.
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Postby Orsandia » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:03 pm

We should begin concluding this meeting, with finalizations and agreements on this education deal between our three nations.
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Postby Ainslie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:48 pm

Orsandia wrote:We should begin concluding this meeting, with finalizations and agreements on this education deal between our three nations.


I am in agreeance with you.
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Postby Ainslie » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:46 am

We shall let our officials in the specific government departments sort out the exact technicalities of the deal. This conference has now concluded, thank you for attending.
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