Basrani Civil War: Escalation [Closed/OOC]

[Rhinocera]

That certainly was a major mistake of mine. Without knowing what Furby has at his base in Djibouti, it's not easy to tell what he is capable of. For all we know, the 'Djibouti Naval and Aerial Base' hypothetically could even just be a small port attached to several helipads.

Precisely,

But in order to answer one of your questions.

Travel speed of the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer of US navy is 37 km/h. Let's say that speed of Furby ships is similar.

Furby posted about ships leaving the port on 23 Jul, your post about the attack is from 27 Jul.

Thus the ships can be 3 500 km away from the port.

That assumes NS time is real time, which isn't always the case.

[Shaochun]

Just a slight correction, the ships left on the 25th.

[Radimostan]

Just a slight correction, the ships left on the 25th.

1776 km

[Shaochun]

Just a slight correction, the ships left on the 25th.

1776 km

That was what I had calculated, yes.

But as Rhinocera has said, it depends if we're strictly following RL time or not.

[Basran]

That certainly was a major mistake of mine. Without knowing what Furby has at his base in Djibouti, it's not easy to tell what he is capable of. For all we know, the 'Djibouti Naval and Aerial Base' hypothetically could even just be a small port attached to several helipads.

Precisely,

But in order to answer one of your questions.

Travel speed of the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer of US navy is 37 km/h. Let's say that speed of Furby ships is similar.

Furby posted about ships leaving the port on 23 Jul, your post about the attack is from 27 Jul.

Thus the ships can be 3 500 km away from the port.

Flying at a constant top speed, the J-31 can go 2,200 km in one hour. It has a range of 2,000km (with external fuel tanks) which means refuelling aircraft can service it to reach 3,500km. If the shops are 3,500km away, then they have already overshot Basran by some distance. Thry would be within 400km+ of thr ship in less than 2 hours.

[Basran]

Just a slight correction, the ships left on the 25th.

1776 km

And if thats the case, Shaochuns planes would be there in less than a hour.

[Basran]

Precisely,

But in order to answer one of your questions.

Travel speed of the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer of US navy is 37 km/h. Let's say that speed of Furby ships is similar.

Furby posted about ships leaving the port on 23 Jul, your post about the attack is from 27 Jul.

Thus the ships can be 3 500 km away from the port.

Flying at a constant top speed, the J-31 can go 2,200 km in one hour. It has a range of 2,000km (with external fuel tanks) which means refuelling aircraft can service it to reach 3,500km. If the shops are 3,500km away, then they have already overshot Basran by some distance. Thry would be within 400km+ of thr ship in less than 2 hours.

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[Radimostan]

Precisely,

But in order to answer one of your questions.

Travel speed of the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer of US navy is 37 km/h. Let's say that speed of Furby ships is similar.

Furby posted about ships leaving the port on 23 Jul, your post about the attack is from 27 Jul.

Thus the ships can be 3 500 km away from the port.

Flying at a constant top speed, the J-31 can go 2,200 km in one hour. It has a range of 2,000km (with external fuel tanks) which means refuelling aircraft can service it to reach 3,500km. If the shops are 3,500km away, then they have already overshot Basran by some distance. Thry would be within 400km+ of thr ship in less than 2 hours.

No refueling aircraft was send.

And those data are old, now it is 1 776

[Basran]

As of current, I suffer from an inherent lack of information. How far have the Furbish ships traveled? What is a FS-HC9 helicopter carrier? What is a FS-MD8 guided missile destroyer? What are they armed with? etc.

It's not easy if Furby has not stated any information at all about what he has. I have been making assumptions totally in the dark here.

This is why it is advised to ask questions before you act.

Its also the responsibility of the poster to include sufficient information in their posts...

[Shaochun]

Flying at a constant top speed, the J-31 can go 2,200 km in one hour. It has a range of 2,000km (with external fuel tanks) which means refuelling aircraft can service it to reach 3,500km. If the shops are 3,500km away, then they have already overshot Basran by some distance. Thry would be within 400km+ of thr ship in less than 2 hours.

No refueling aircraft was send.

And those data are old, now it is 1 776

1776 km

And if thats the case, Shaochuns planes would be there in less than a hour.

[Rhinocera]

Speaking of posts, think you'll get one up today Basran?

[Basran]

Anyway, I am done arfuing about this, as everyone seems to be forgetting about Rule 1 of this place, As the OP, I'm saying the attack stands, and there is no realisticly plausible way that those 2 ships would be able to fend off all 45 hypersonic sea-skimming AShMs travelling at mach 3.5, they are both sunk, and that is final. The attack stands as it is. If Shaochun needs the oppourtunity to edit in a refuelling op to make it realistic, then so be it. The damage to the other ships is Furbys discression.

[Basran]

Speaking of posts, think you'll get one up today Basran?

Its half done. I can complete it tomorrow, god willing. Jet lag is killing me, so its unlikely it will be up tonight.

[Shaochun]

Anyway, I am done arfuing about this, as everyone seems to be forgetting about Rule 1 of this place, As the OP, I'm saying the attack stands, and there is no realisticly plausible way that those 2 ships would be able to fend off all 45 hypersonic sea-skimming AShMs travelling at mach 3.5, they are both sunk, and that is final. The attack stands as it is. If Shaochun needs the oppourtunity to edit in a refuelling op to make it realistic, then so be it. The damage to the other ships is Furbys discression.

Very well then. I will be making an edit for realism.

[Greater Slavic Union]

Speaking of posts, think you'll get one up today Basran?

Its half done. I can complete it tomorrow, god willing. Jet lag is killing me, so its unlikely it will be up tonight.

Paradoxically, it's better for me... I really can't work on that skirmish rn, and I need to do other stuff... so you just saved me

[Merieu]

Is it too late to sign up? I'd be interested in joining on the side of the NPA.

[Radimostan]

By the way, did Shaochun equip his aircraft with aa missiles?

[Basran]

75% done

[Shaochun]

FYI Furby, these planes aren't new, they just chased you down after your 3 ships tried to flee to Mumbai.

Though honestly though, you should have used your VTOLs, SAMs, radar and MANPADs when you first got attacked. It could have saved maybe a ship of yours. I'll be making a post in response in a moment.

Could I just ask what those VTOLs were capable of, and what kind of missiles and MANPADs were fired and the methods of the missiles guidance.

[Basran]

Alright guys I've hit a major snag irl and I am ordering a temporary pause of the RP until about Wednesday or Thursday (after Shaocun responds too) and thus that is when my post will be up. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hope you understand.

[Radimostan]

Alright guys I've hit a major snag irl and I am ordering a temporary pause of the RP until about Wednesday or Thursday (after Shaocun responds too) and thus that is when my post will be up. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hope you understand.

No prob

FYI Furby, these planes aren't new, they just chased you down after your 3 ships tried to flee to Mumbai.

Though honestly though, you should have used your VTOLs, SAMs, radar and MANPADs when you first got attacked. It could have saved maybe a ship of yours. I'll be making a post in response in a moment.

VTOLs maybe, but I do not think he had SAMs or MANPADs with a range of 400km. Also, he probably used most of his SAMs to shot down your YJ-12s.

Could I just ask what those VTOLs were capable of, and what kind of missiles and MANPADs were fired and the methods of the missiles guidance.

FI military is inspired by US, thus I suppose VTOLs are F-35s and MANPADs are Stingers.

[Rhinocera]

Alright guys I've hit a major snag irl and I am ordering a temporary pause of the RP until about Wednesday or Thursday (after Shaocun responds too) and thus that is when my post will be up. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hope you understand.

Take care of yourself boss

[Furbish Islands]

Could I just ask what those VTOLs were capable of, and what kind of missiles and MANPADs were fired and the methods of the missiles guidance.

FI military is inspired by US, thus I suppose VTOLs are F-35s and MANPADs are Stingers.

Yes, my military is inspired by the US, but I don't have US equipment. My military uses its own equipment. But the equipment is heavily based on the US's and it is slightly better. The 7 VTOL's do carry enough AA missiles to destroy most if not all the planes, and I doubt they have much chances of surviving with all the SAM's and MANPADS's firing at them.

Also Radimostan, the singlar form is MANPADS, not MANPAD. It stands for man portable air defense system.

[San Regada]

FI military is inspired by US, thus I suppose VTOLs are F-35s and MANPADs are Stingers.

Yes, my military is inspired by the US, but I don't have US equipment. My military uses its own equipment. But the equipment is heavily based on the US's and it is slightly better. The 7 VTOL's do carry enough AA missiles to destroy most if not all the planes, and I doubt they have much chances of surviving with all the SAM's and MANPADS's firing at them.

Also Radimostan, the singlar form is MANPADS, not MANPAD. It stands for man portable air defense system.

Debatable. SAM's and MANPAD's generally have a much harder time hitting small, fast, low flying objects that are within a close proximity to it. ECM's and Flares are also a thing, and missile count generally doesn't matter. Having a specific number of missiles doesn't mean that every missile will be capable of hitting its target. Your SAM's could be taken out by ARM's or just regular AGM's or even via strafing run, they aren't invincible, nor do they guarantee victory. Your planes are also at a significant disadvantage because you are up against 30 other planes of similar capability, they have the ability to concentrate more firepower and a larger number of planes onto each one of your planes. Don't think you can win so easily.

[Greater Slavic Union]

Good lord Ondra... F-35's are literally the worst waste ever approved by a country-s military besides the Maus tank.