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Postby Vymar » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:16 pm

Basran wrote:
Vymar wrote:Nation Name: The United Socialist States of Vymar
Alliance Affiliation: (FNRB/BDR-JaI/HB, BDF-JSDU-CRA, NPA) NPA
Order of Battle: (Structure/Number/List of your military/peacekeeping/monitoring personnel)
Advisory Division (200 troops and 60 Humvees)
Armored Division Bravo (100 IBT-63 Main Battle tanks and 100 XM-3 Main Battle Tanks, 3,000 troops)
Flight Division (100 troops, 100 IBF-17s)
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Vymar has gotten involved to attempt to advise the NPA through the conflict and provide support through new armor units. As many Vymarian units are trained in terrorism, as many were prior terrorists to overthrow a fascist dictator.

100 is a bit much.


So what number would you like it to be capped at?
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Postby Basran » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:27 pm

Lamerika wrote:Nation Name: The Lamerikan Syndicalist Federation
Alliance Affiliation: FNRB
Order of Battle:
13th Volunteer Ranger Regiment
  • 2,000 Fighters
  • 55 T-90MS "Kodiak" MBTS
  • 30 BTR-90s
  • 20 BMP-3s
  • 30 Technicals
  • 5 Jupiter III Truck-mounted howitzers
  • 5 Tornado-G Rocket Artillery Trucks
  • 50 Various Logistic Trucks
3rd Red Guards Regiment
  • 1,500 Fighters
  • 50 T-90MS "Kodiak" MBTS
  • 20 BTR-90s
  • 20 BTR-60PB Tank Destroyers
  • 5 GC-45 Towed Howitzers
  • 3 2K22 Tunguska AA Guns
  • 50 Various Logistic Trucks
1st Fighter Squadron
  • 16 Shenyang J-15s
8th Attack Squadron
  • 1 Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack
  • 15 Sukhoi Su-25 Frogfoots
5th Helicopter Attack Squadron
  • 16 Mil Mi-35M
4th & 10th Helicopter Support Squadrons
  • 32 Mi-17s
2nd Naval Assault Group
  • 4 Iroquois Class Destroyers
  • Various Transport Vessels


Additional Information: Can't think of anything

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Postby Basran » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:28 pm

Vymar wrote:
Basran wrote:100 is a bit much.


So what number would you like it to be capped at?

I mean, Russia only has about 50-60 combat aircraft and 20 helicopters in Syria... so... just tell me onfe you reduce the number and ill accept you.
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Postby Vymar » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:57 pm

Basran wrote:
Vymar wrote:
So what number would you like it to be capped at?

I mean, Russia only has about 50-60 combat aircraft and 20 helicopters in Syria... so... just tell me onfe you reduce the number and ill accept you.


Ive just reduced the numbers
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Postby Basran » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:36 am

Accepted. Also I am waiting for people that have been accepted to get their posts up before I make another one so things can progress smoother, so, yknow. Cmon.

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Postby Lamerika » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:42 am

Basran wrote:Accepted. Also I am waiting for people that have been accepted to get their posts up before I make another one so things can progress smoother, so, yknow. Cmon.

I just got some time off work, so I'll be able to get a post up today hopefully
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Postby Basran » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:09 pm

Alrighty, I will have my type my up tomorrow.

I would to it tonight but im not too sober and my head kills.

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Postby Basran » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:53 am

Yikes, yet another post delay, sorry for the inconvenience, personal matters are a bit iffy right now. It should be up by this time tomorrow/

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Postby Rhinocera » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:07 pm

Nation Name: The Empire of Rhinocera
Alliance Affiliation: (FNRB/BDR-JaI/HB, BDF-JSDU-CRA, NPA) NPA
Order of Battle: (Structure/Number/List of your military/peacekeeping/monitoring personnel) TBD (Probably an expeditionary force or a naval task force, not planning on sending an army group or anything like that. Might even limit to funding/equipping instead of direct deployments)
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Postby Shaochun » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:35 am

Nation Name: The Celestial Empire of Shaochun
Alliance Affiliation: FNRB and allies
Order of Battle:
Special Forces Unit 'Lions of Nanyang'
- 42nd Special Operations Company (80 men)
- 37th Special Operations Platoon (20)
- 401st Special Operations Platoon (20)
- 92nd Special Operations Platoon (20)
- 555th Special Operations Platoon 'Imperial Scepter' (20)

Detachment from the 942nd Transport Squadron (40)
- 4x Harbin Z-20
- CAIC Z-10

- 40x Shenyang J-31
- 15x Xian H-6K
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Postby Basran » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:37 am

Both accepted.

Also this isn't dead, I'm just having difficulties.

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Postby Rhinocera » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:39 pm

Basran wrote:Both accepted.

Also this isn't dead, I'm just having difficulties.


RL comes first, your good.
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Postby Basran » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:00 pm

Rhinocera wrote:
Basran wrote:Both accepted.

Also this isn't dead, I'm just having difficulties.


RL comes first, your good.

Thanks for understanding.

I'll have a post in 1-3 days tops.

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Postby Basran » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:27 am

Slowly working on a post for tomorrow.

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Postby Radimostan » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:42 am

Shaochun wrote:

International Waters
1,900km away from five Furbish ships



"Targets are in sight, sir." said the weapons officer. Colonel Shao Yang nodded as he sat in the co-pilot seat of the Xian H-6K. Colonel Yang,
crown prince of the Shaochunese Royal Family, led the three squadrons. After refueling at Djibouti, forty Shenyang J-31 fighters along with fifteen Xian H-6K bombers headed straight towards Basran. Their target was not Basran, but instead, five Furbish ships en-route to Basran. Due to reach Basran in a few days, the five ships were easy target for the Shaochunese air armada.

With only one missile guided destroyer, the battle would hardly be fair. The Furbish forces said they would 'retaliate' if Furbish troops were attacked in Basran.
OSAN's job in Basran would be much easier if five Furbish ships were at the bottom of the ocean, which was what they were going to do. The fifty-five aircraft were still 1,900km away from the Furbish ships, an extremely far distance. With the YJ-12 anti-ship missiles, striking the Furbish would be much easier.

The YJ-12 missiles were deadly, and the chances of the Furbish even stopping them was low. Once the wave of sea-skimming missiles appeared over the horizon and was detected by the Furbish guided missile destroyer, they would only have some 45 seconds to engage before impact. The 15 bombers carried six YJ-12 missiles each,
meaning they carried around 90 supersonic missiles.

With this massive hurl of missiles, the Furbish had barely any chance. This was only the bombers, however. The J-31s had eight supersonic air-to-ground missiles, eight 500 kg deep-penetration bombs and thirty smaller bombs. The majority of the anti-ship missiles would be aimed at the Furbish guided missile destroyer, the FIS Zebra and the second-priority target would be the FIS Estonia. The other planes and the remaining missiles would wreck havoc on the rest of the fleet.

As the planes got closer at 1,500km, Colonel Yang gave the order. "Bombers, fire at will at targets. Fighters, stay in formation until impact, over." Ordered the Colonel over the radio. "May the Emperor live a thousand years!" Shouted the pilots in unison. The 90 YJ-12 supersonic anti-ship missiles were fired from the bombers,
heading straight for the Furbish ships! At Mach 3.5, the Furbish ships would be lucky to even see them coming.


So, the escalation phase is over?


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Postby Basran » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:06 pm

Radimostan wrote:
Shaochun wrote:

International Waters
1,900km away from five Furbish ships



"Targets are in sight, sir." said the weapons officer. Colonel Shao Yang nodded as he sat in the co-pilot seat of the Xian H-6K. Colonel Yang,
crown prince of the Shaochunese Royal Family, led the three squadrons. After refueling at Djibouti, forty Shenyang J-31 fighters along with fifteen Xian H-6K bombers headed straight towards Basran. Their target was not Basran, but instead, five Furbish ships en-route to Basran. Due to reach Basran in a few days, the five ships were easy target for the Shaochunese air armada.

With only one missile guided destroyer, the battle would hardly be fair. The Furbish forces said they would 'retaliate' if Furbish troops were attacked in Basran.
OSAN's job in Basran would be much easier if five Furbish ships were at the bottom of the ocean, which was what they were going to do. The fifty-five aircraft were still 1,900km away from the Furbish ships, an extremely far distance. With the YJ-12 anti-ship missiles, striking the Furbish would be much easier.

The YJ-12 missiles were deadly, and the chances of the Furbish even stopping them was low. Once the wave of sea-skimming missiles appeared over the horizon and was detected by the Furbish guided missile destroyer, they would only have some 45 seconds to engage before impact. The 15 bombers carried six YJ-12 missiles each,
meaning they carried around 90 supersonic missiles.

With this massive hurl of missiles, the Furbish had barely any chance. This was only the bombers, however. The J-31s had eight supersonic air-to-ground missiles, eight 500 kg deep-penetration bombs and thirty smaller bombs. The majority of the anti-ship missiles would be aimed at the Furbish guided missile destroyer, the FIS Zebra and the second-priority target would be the FIS Estonia. The other planes and the remaining missiles would wreck havoc on the rest of the fleet.

As the planes got closer at 1,500km, Colonel Yang gave the order. "Bombers, fire at will at targets. Fighters, stay in formation until impact, over." Ordered the Colonel over the radio. "May the Emperor live a thousand years!" Shouted the pilots in unison. The 90 YJ-12 supersonic anti-ship missiles were fired from the bombers,
heading straight for the Furbish ships! At Mach 3.5, the Furbish ships would be lucky to even see them coming.


So, the escalation phase is over?

Depends how the Furbish respond.

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Postby Rhinocera » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:35 pm

Regardless of the Furbish response, Shaochun made a bold move. I'm curious to see if they can handle the inevitable blowback.
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Postby Basran » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:16 pm

Those 2 Furbish ships are gone. RIP.

Anyway, my post is coming eventually. Its sort of mostly focused on the upcoming NPA/CRA engagement and FNRB/NPA engagement. The BDF will be mentioned soon enough.

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Postby Furbish Islands » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:33 am

Basran wrote:
Radimostan wrote:


So, the escalation phase is over?

Depends how the Furbish respond.


Rhinocera wrote:Regardless of the Furbish response, Shaochun made a bold move. I'm curious to see if they can handle the inevitable blowback.


Basran wrote:Those 2 Furbish ships are gone. RIP.

Anyway, my post is coming eventually. Its sort of mostly focused on the upcoming NPA/CRA engagement and FNRB/NPA engagement. The BDF will be mentioned soon enough.


Basically to sum up my response, all ships will be damaged, and the missile guided destroyer will sink. Since the 6 helicopters with troops have took off, the attack won't change that. All the ships will sail to and dock in Mumbai to get repaired and a few more ships will arrive. Also, when Shaochun's planes arrive back to their base in Djibouti, they have a nasty surprise awaiting them... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

EDIT: not really, I don't want to escalate this further
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Postby Shaochun » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:09 am

Furbish Islands wrote:
Basran wrote:Depends how the Furbish respond.


Rhinocera wrote:Regardless of the Furbish response, Shaochun made a bold move. I'm curious to see if they can handle the inevitable blowback.


Basran wrote:Those 2 Furbish ships are gone. RIP.

Anyway, my post is coming eventually. Its sort of mostly focused on the upcoming NPA/CRA engagement and FNRB/NPA engagement. The BDF will be mentioned soon enough.


Basically to sum up my response, all ships will be damaged, and the missile guided destroyer will sink. Since the 6 helicopters with troops have took off, the attack won't change that. All the ships will sail to and dock in Mumbai to get repaired and a few more ships will arrive. Also, when Shaochun's planes arrive back to their base in Djibouti, they have a nasty surprise awaiting them... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

EDIT: not really, I don't want to escalate this further


My attack isn't over, Not yet ;).

The things that destroyed the missile destroyers were only missiles from 15 bombers. There are still 40 more planes armed with missiles that are going to attack the rest of the ships once you respond.
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Postby Radimostan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:23 am

Shaochun wrote:
Furbish Islands wrote:




Basically to sum up my response, all ships will be damaged, and the missile guided destroyer will sink. Since the 6 helicopters with troops have took off, the attack won't change that. All the ships will sail to and dock in Mumbai to get repaired and a few more ships will arrive. Also, when Shaochun's planes arrive back to their base in Djibouti, they have a nasty surprise awaiting them... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

EDIT: not really, I don't want to escalate this further


My attack isn't over, Not yet ;).

The things that destroyed the missile destroyers were only missiles from 15 bombers. There are still 40 more planes armed with missiles that are going to attack the rest of the ships once you respond.


Ehhh... You attacked these ships at least 1 900km away from your base, but J-31 has max combat range 2 000km (even with additional fuel tanks), so now you definitely need to refuel back in your base.


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Postby Basran » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:27 am

I'm finding it hard to believe that both ships weren't sunk... 45 hypersonic sea-skimming anti ship missiles going at mach 3.5 fired from a close-ish range... I'm sorry but I'm really not seeing a plausible or realistic way as to how both the targeted ships survived. Realistically, ship defences would have been overwhelmed after the first few missiles.

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Postby Radimostan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:36 am

Basran wrote:I'm finding it hard to believe that both ships weren't sunk... 45 hypersonic sea-skimming anti ship missiles going at mach 3.5 fired from a close-ish range... I'm sorry but I'm really not seeing a plausible or realistic way as to how both the targeted ships survived. Realistically, ship defences would have been overwhelmed after the first few missiles.


It looks like Shaochun did not send any AWACS or similar aircraft to assist the jets and bombers, thus in order to precisely locate these ships they needed to communicate with their base in Djibouti. Furby also has a base in Djibouti so he could try to disturb communication between Shaochun aircraft and base in order to mislead bombers to attack the wrong position.
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Postby Shaochun » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:39 am

Radimostan wrote:
Basran wrote:I'm finding it hard to believe that both ships weren't sunk... 45 hypersonic sea-skimming anti ship missiles going at mach 3.5 fired from a close-ish range... I'm sorry but I'm really not seeing a plausible or realistic way as to how both the targeted ships survived. Realistically, ship defences would have been overwhelmed after the first few missiles.


It looks like Shaochun did not send any AWACS or similar aircraft to assist the jets and bombers, thus in order to precisely locate these ships they needed to communicate with their base in Djibouti. Furby also has base in Djibouti so he could try to disturb communication between Shaochun aircraft and base mislead the bomber to attack the wrong position.

It also does not look like Furby disturbed any communication either.
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