The Gulf War (OOC/Planning Thread)

[Astoria]

Those who want to support my coalition against Gilan, feel free to post something to that effect in the IC thread. Those who want to support Gilan, do the same.

My ability to post rapidly and regularly is somewhat shaky, so I'd like to spend a bit of time/posts establishing the process by which the two sides assemble their forces/send their support. I will have a post up on the IC thread by tomorrow, primarily reacting to Vymar's decision to contest the buildup.

For the record, there are (as yet unnamed) neighboring states that will host Astorian and other coalition forces for the buildup prior to any conflict, similar to how the coalition based troops in Saudi Arabia in 1991 and 2003. Of course, those bases may be vulnerable to attack by Soldiers of the Islamic Jihad (JJI).

[RavenSword Solutions]

could I rp the terrorists actually?

[Inzunza]

could I rp the terrorists actually?

A terrorist to some fights for freedom for others. Oppose western imperialism where the stench is strongest.

[Crimseia]

Nation Name: The Grand Duchy of Crimseia
Side: Astoria Coalition
Reason for joining: To liberate key trade ally Qadha, and restore oil shipments as well as establishing a military base in the region.
Air & support assets will be available to the coalition throughout the entire war, where as Crimseian ground forces will cease advancing at the Gilan border.
Forces:
10,000 ground forces including supply, medical, transport, intelligence, infantry, engineering, etc
80 fighter, and assault aircraft
100 transport aircraft
60 transport helicopters
30 attack helicopters
100 tanks (main battle & support roles)
1,000 APCs
50 self-propelled artillery
60 Missile/air defense systems

[Newne Carriebean7]

Nation name: Newne Carriebean7
Side: Gilan
Reason for joining: The Carriebeanian Government sees the regime that's in place in Gilan to be a friendly one,and would be interested in keeping the regime in place for the purposes of OIl trading and would like to keep the flow of natural resources continuing, and the Government has notified the lack of revolt in the Gilan regime and it's use of terrorists, which the Government may plan to not only arm but also recruit as part of a larger national terrorist recruitment act.
ORBAT: 30 cargo jet liners
Carriebeanian 6th Naval Flotilla
Admiral Carl Jackson Noah
5 destroyers and 4 naval transports:
(In the jet liners: 6,000 soldiers (200 men in each jet, 2 Humvees), Transports carrying 10 Tanks, 2 IFVs and an additional 1,000 soldiers each. (4,000 soldiers, 40 tanks and 8 IFVs)

Total:
5 Destroyers
4 transports
30 cargo jet liners
10,000 soldiers
40 tanks
8 IFVs

[Radiria]

Is there wimpy neutrality option? If so:

The Republic of Radiria, or the Unified Radirian States of Bostwana, Namibia, Lesotho, Swaziland and South Africa, would like to send concern over to the warring parties over human lives. A man-made famine was probably started by some rebel forces (think South Sudan) and several refugee camps in nearby nations are taking a hit. The nation, located at the Cape, is willing to allocate for 200,000 displaced refugees from the warzone.

If not, then:

The Republic of Radiria, a strong anti-imperial state will be sending forces pro-Astonia in order to quell the regime and their allies. Here is the ORBAT:

5,000 MT-equipment, average-training infantry, armed with the ff.

a. B2-4a Rifles (Standard Issue, pretty decent but not the best)
b. AKR Sniper Rifles (Also Standard Issue, inferior to most snipers a significant margin)
c. Blue Spark-produced combat armor (kinda like how the US gets its aircraft, pretty good in general, sacrifices safety for mobility by leaving the hip a little lacking)
d.XPSI-Tactical Grenades (Also privately produced, frags, smokes and more)

30 PKANML-Bombers (Overall a decent warplane)

70 Pi5-Fighters (Gotta protect 'dem bombers, pretty good too)

30 Swan 16-Destroyers (Very okay in terms of capability, not so good compares to other ships)

The forces will mostly be coming to Quadha, in order to establish a foothold on the region, with the destroyers blocking supplies from allies to the regime via a barricade

Reason (IC): Radiria seeks to establish complicated allied relations with Astoria via the help, and also, Quadha was their main source of imported oil (sounds weird, but it's a thing IRL)

Reason (OOC): I'm bored.

[Crimseia]

Is there wimpy neutrality option? If so:

The Republic of Radiria, or the Unified Radirian States of Bostwana, Namibia, Lesotho, Swaziland and South Africa, would like to send concern over to the warring parties over human lives. A man-made famine was probably started by some rebel forces (think South Sudan) and several refugee camps in nearby nations are taking a hit. The nation, located at the Cape, is willing to allocate for 200,000 displaced refugees from the warzone.

If not, then:

The Republic of Radiria, a strong anti-imperial state will be sending forces pro-Astonia in order to quell the regime and their allies. Here is the ORBAT:

5,000 MT-equipment, average-training infantry, armed with the ff.

a. B2-4a Rifles (Standard Issue, pretty decent but not the best)
b. AKR Sniper Rifles (Also Standard Issue, inferior to most snipers a significant margin)
c. Blue Spark-produced combat armor (kinda like how the US gets its aircraft, pretty good in general, sacrifices safety for mobility by leaving the hip a little lacking)
d.XPSI-Tactical Grenades (Also privately produced, frags, smokes and more)

90 PKANML-Bombers (Overall a decent warplane)

150 Pi5-Fighters (Gotta protect 'dem bombers, pretty good too)

30 Swan 16-Destroyers (Very okay in terms of capability, not so good compares to other ships)

The forces will mostly be coming to Quadha, in order to establish a foothold on the region, with the destroyers blocking supplies from allies to the regime via a barricade

Reason (IC): Radiria seeks to establish complicated allied relations with Astoria via the help, and also, Quadha was their main source of imported oil (sounds weird, but it's a thing IRL)

Reason (OOC): I'm bored.

Sounds like we may be working closely together to achieve the same goals

[Radiria]

Okay. Can I start posting now?

[Vymar]

Okay. Can I start posting now?

He said to feel free to post on the IC thread. He stated it on the top of page 2

[Welskerland]

I'm interested in joining, but idk which side I will ultimately be joining yet. What are the ideologies of the two sides?

[The Twelve Isles]

Nation Name: The Empire Of The Twelve Isles and all her Colony's

(Here's a quick rundown of my nation)

My nation consists of two major area's, the Home Isles and the Colony's. The Colony's are technically no longer colony's, and are full fledged parts of the nation, but have been referred to for so long that that is what they are colloquially called. They are warm, tropical environments where the Isles grows rice, banana's, coffee and harvests the rain forests in the area. Great care is taken by the Colony's to keep the rain forests from being over logged, so that the natural diversity that they offer can be preserved, and so the resources that they provide can be used for as long as possible.

The Home Isles are where the Empire of the Twelve Isles originates from. They consist of 12 smaller islands, that all together add up to about the same land mass as the United Kingdom. The Home Isles are known for their pervasively rainy environment, virulent diseases and abundance of poisonous plants. The Home Isles main products are oil, coal and iron, as well as a large whaling fleet that hunts the beasts to use their meat. Whale meat is the most commonly eaten meat in the Isles, and as a result the whaling fleets are an incredibly lucrative business. Much like the colony's do with their rain forests, the Home Isles take great care to not over hunt the whales, as their extinction would cause massive problems in the Isles.

The harsh environment of the Home Isles has greatly influenced the culture of the Isles, which holds a strong belief in the occult. In the modern age, the religions of an older Isles have faded, but the cultural significance of witches, demons and spirits that haunt the oceans are still very important in the Isles. Many have tattoos of runes and magic circles, or wear talismans to ward off evil spirits and to make contact with the Stranger, who is believed to be the being that created magic and the world.

In terms of power, the Isles are along the same lines as Russia. The Isles has a total population of 105,840,000, and a total military of 216,800 active front line personnel, and the ability to call on 2,959,200 reserve personnel, all in all making about 3% of the entire population military. As former superpower, with a strong maritime background and a once massive naval fleet that is starting to get back on its leg's as the Isles begins to exert its power in the world again, the Isles is a formidable nation, though not without its weaknesses, most notably a navy that is significantly outdated and in dire need of modernization.

The Navy of the Isles consists of:
- 3 aircraft carriers, though two are outdated and are to be replaced by one larger, modern aircraft carrier within the next few years
- 12 nuclear submarines
- 13 traditional submarines, though like the aircraft carriers these are outdated and are to be replaced in the next few years
- 4 frigates, one of which is outdated
- 15 destroyers, 5 of which are outdated
- 71 corvettes, though 31 are outdated, and another 10 are dry docked indefinitely, leaving only 30 in common use
- 14 coastal defense craft.

Unlike the Navy, which although it is still formidable is in need of updating, the Army is far more modernized. However, due to the reliance on the navy to project power the Army is significantly smaller in terms of size and personnel.

The Army consists of:
- 388 tanks
- 4,600 AFV's (Armored Fighting Vehicles)
- 73 SPG's (Self Propelled Guns)
- 102 Towed Artillery
- 30 MLRS's (Multiple Launch Rocket Systems)

The air force is the smallest branch of the military, though like the army is considerably modernized. In the Air Force there is a total of 299 aircraft total.

In total, the Air Force consists of:
- 83 fighter jets
- 44 fighter bombers
- 22 spy planes
- 11 fighter drones
- 11 spy drones
- 60 troop transports
- 68 bombers

Side: Astoria Coalition
Reason for joining: To help Coalition forces eliminate Islamic Jihad and free Qadha from Gilan Rule.
ORBAT:

Empire of the Twelve Isles Order Of Battle, Gulf War.

MARINE EXPEDITIONARY FORCE

Special Marine Operations Division (SMOD)

1st Isles Marine Armored Assault Regiment
-1st Assault Company
-2nd Assault Company
-3rd Assault Company
-HQ Section
-Support Section

2nd Isles Marine Armored Assault Regiment
-1st Assault Company
-2nd Assault Company
-3rd Assault Company
-HQ Section
-Support Section

1st Marine Aviation Wing
-1st Helicopter Attack Wing
-2nd Helicopter Attack Wing
-3rd Helicopter Attack Wing
-1st Ground Support Wing
-2nd Ground Support Wing
-1st Medevac Wing
-2nd Medevac Wing
-HQ Section

1st Marine Scout Regiment
-1st Fast Deployment Scout Company
-2nd Fast Deployment Scout Company
-3rd Fast Deployment Scout Company
-HQ Section
-Support Section

1st Tank Hunter Company
-Mounted TOW Missile Company (Convoy One)
-Mounted TOW Missile Company (Convoy Two)
-5th Tank Hunter Company (Tank Hunter Armor)
-Javelin Company (Javelin One)

-Mounted TOW Hunter Killer Company (Hunter Killer)

-HQ Section
-Support Section

Isles Marine 1st Marine Division
-1st Marine Regiment
-Infantry Group A
-Infantry Group B
-Infantry Group C
-Light Recon Battalion

-2nd Marine Regiment
-Infantry Group A
-Infantry Group B
-Infantry Group C
-Light Recon Battalion

-3rd Marine Regiment
-Infantry Group A
-Infantry Group B
-Infantry Group C
-Light Recon Battalion

-Support Section
-1st Artillery Regiment (MLRS)

-HQ Section

Isles Marine 2nd Marine Division

-1st Marine Regiment
-Infantry Group A
-Infantry Group B
-Infantry Group C
-Light Recon Battalion

-2nd Marine Regiment
-Infantry Group A
-Infantry Group B
-Infantry Group C
-Light Recon Battalion

-3rd Marine Regiment
-Infantry Group A
-Infantry Group B
-Infantry Group C
-Light Recon Battalion

-Support Section
-1st Artillery Regiment (Towed Artillery)

-HQ Section



ARMY EXPEDITIONARY FORCE

1st Armored Division
-1st Tank Regiment
-Tank Group A
-Tank Group B
-Tank Group C
-Light Armor Reconnaissance Battalion

-2nd Tank Regiment
-Tank Group A
-Tank Group B
-Tank Group C
-Light Armor Reconnaissance Battalion

-3rd Tank Regiment
-Tank Group A
-Tank Group B
-Tank Group C
-Light Armor Reconnaissance Battalion

-HQ Section

-Support Section


2nd Armored Division

-1st Tank Regiment
-Tank Group A
-Tank Group B
-Tank Group C
-Light Armor Reconnaissance Battalion

-2nd Tank Regiment
-Tank Group A
-Tank Group B
-Tank Group C
-Light Armor Reconnaissance Battalion

-3rd Tank Regiment
-Tank Group A
-Tank Group B
-Tank Group C
-Light Armor Reconnaissance Battalion

-HQ Section

-Support Section

3rd Airborne Division

-1st Brigade
-1st Airborne Infantry Regiment
-2nd Airborne Infantry Regiment
-1st Airborne Anti Armor Regiment

-2nd Brigade
-1st Airborne Infantry Regiment
-2nd Airborne Infantry Regiment
-1st Airborne Anti Armor Regiment

-Support Brigade
-HQ Section
-1st Airborne Mortar Regiment

1nst Infantry Division

-1st Infantry Regiment
-Rifle Group A
-Rifle Group B
-Rifle Group C

-Mortar Company
-Javelin Company

-HQ Section
-Support Section

-2nd Infantry Regiment
-Rifle Group A
-Rifle Group B
-Rifle Group C

-Mortar Company
-Javelin Company

-HQ Section
-Support Section

-3rd Infantry Regiment
-Rifle Group A
-Rifle Group B
-Rifle Group C

-Mortar Company
-Javelin Company

-HQ Section
-Support Section

2nd Infantry Division

-1st Infantry Regiment
-Rifle Group A
-Rifle Group B
-Rifle Group C

-Mortar Company
-Javelin Company

-HQ Section
-Support Section

-2nd Infantry Regiment
-Rifle Group A
-Rifle Group B
-Rifle Group C

-Mortar Company
-Javelin Company

-HQ Section
-Support Section

-3rd Infantry Regiment
-Rifle Group A
-Rifle Group B
-Rifle Group C

-Mortar Company
-Javelin Company

-HQ Section
-Support Section

ISLES AIR POWER

3rd Airborne Transport Wing

-Transport One
-Transport Two
-Transport Three

3rd Ground Attack Wing

-1st Fighter Bomber Squad
(10 A10 Warthog Fighter Bombers)

-2nd Fighter Bomber Squad
(10 A10 Warthog Fighter Bombers)

1st Fighter Wing
-1st Fighter Wing
(10 Eurofighter Typhoon Fighters)

-2nd Fighter Wing
(10 Eurofighter Typhoon Fighters)

NAVAL EXPEDITIONARY FORCE

Aircraft Carriers

RNS Bella Cartwine (Flagship)

RNS Stranger

Frigates
(Escort Aircraft Carriers)

RNS Rising Fire

RNS Admiral Stoddard

Submarines
(Missile Launch Capability's)

RNS Mandate

RNS Urchin (The Isles made the mistake of allowing the public to name this Submarine. They decided to stick by their word and name a military vessel the 'Urchin')

RNS Townhill Court (Townhill is the capital of the Isles)

Nuclear Submarines

RNS Nightingale

RNS Vendetta

RNS Castle

RNS Immortal

Destroyers
(Escort and hunter killer missions against enemy vessels)

RNS Imperial

RNS Lion

RNS Killjoy

RNS Felix

Corvettes
(Blockade, hunter killer missions, escort)

Corvette x 20 (Im not gonna come up with 20 ships names, so the Corvettes will remain nameless unless one of them comes up.

All in all, we will be deploying about 8,000 soldiers, though more may be deployed if the war heats up. Though it is not likely that the Isles will deploy more than 100,000 soldiers, as deploying any more than that would likely force the Empire to draw on its reserves.

[Gebeta]

Ill join in on Qadha

Reason
When the small nation was first invaded, Gebeta drew plans to oust the invasion but was met with no help. Lawmakers were unable to convert to the Idea that not doing anything would lead to bigger problems.
At the time Gebeta was looking into bio ans electrical fuel systems. In the future this would prove a success, but now its still expermintal.

Now that a Coaltion is forming, General Maximillion advocates for Gebeta to join in liberating, to show that the nation will not sit back amd do nothing.

Sadly, the law makers agreed, but decided that air power would be the right answer, ignoring ground wars.

So my Orbat

40 aircraft
20 G37 Fighters (akin to Su37s)
20 G20 MultiRoles (F20 Tigersharks with upgraded avionics and engines.)

Hope to see the rp go foward.

[Astoria]

Hey Vymar, I'd appreciate if you slowed down the pace of your posting - you've sent three whole contingents of troops to Gilan before I even responded to the first one. My not being able to post immediately does not mean a green light to continue to advance the timeline. I can't tell from your last post, but it seems like you're RPing your warships as having run the blockade successfully without waiting for me to respond to their approach?

My post on the IC thread will assume your naval vessels have not yet actually breached the blockade.

For all involved, the coalition has not yet declared any sort of no-fly zone or aerial blockade, just a naval one: note that that limits what you can transport to Gilan without risking confrontation.

I've made the offer for the states arrayed against the coalition to meet. At this point I'm going to close this to any new entries, those who have expressed an interest in joining prior to this post can continue to participate.

[Inzunza]

For all involved, the coalition has not yet declared any sort of no-fly zone or aerial blockade

*pats self on back for going the long, air route*

[Vymar]

Hey Vymar, I'd appreciate if you slowed down the pace of your posting - you've sent three whole contingents of troops to Gilan before I even responded to the first one. My not being able to post immediately does not mean a green light to continue to advance the timeline. I can't tell from your last post, but it seems like you're RPing your warships as having run the blockade successfully without waiting for me to respond to their approach?

My post on the IC thread will assume your naval vessels have not yet actually breached the blockade.

For all involved, the coalition has not yet declared any sort of no-fly zone or aerial blockade, just a naval one: note that that limits what you can transport to Gilan without risking confrontation.

I've made the offer for the states arrayed against the coalition to meet. At this point I'm going to close this to any new entries, those who have expressed an interest in joining prior to this post can continue to participate.

Sure, Ill slow down the posting. And sorry if I was unclear, but the blockade has not been broken. As of right now, the ships are simply having a stare off. Sorry again for any issues this may have caused.

[The Twelve Isles]

Hey Vymar, I'd appreciate if you slowed down the pace of your posting - you've sent three whole contingents of troops to Gilan before I even responded to the first one. My not being able to post immediately does not mean a green light to continue to advance the timeline. I can't tell from your last post, but it seems like you're RPing your warships as having run the blockade successfully without waiting for me to respond to their approach?

My post on the IC thread will assume your naval vessels have not yet actually breached the blockade.

For all involved, the coalition has not yet declared any sort of no-fly zone or aerial blockade, just a naval one: note that that limits what you can transport to Gilan without risking confrontation.

I've made the offer for the states arrayed against the coalition to meet. At this point I'm going to close this to any new entries, those who have expressed an interest in joining prior to this post can continue to participate.

Hey, I don't know if you saw but I put an app in right before you closed, and I got one post up in the IC. I was on the coalition side.

Just thought I would bring it up, as I saw you hadn't mentioned me in you last IC post, where coalition nations were invited for a conference.

[Radiria]

Hey Vymar, I'd appreciate if you slowed down the pace of your posting - you've sent three whole contingents of troops to Gilan before I even responded to the first one. My not being able to post immediately does not mean a green light to continue to advance the timeline. I can't tell from your last post, but it seems like you're RPing your warships as having run the blockade successfully without waiting for me to respond to their approach?

My post on the IC thread will assume your naval vessels have not yet actually breached the blockade.

For all involved, the coalition has not yet declared any sort of no-fly zone or aerial blockade, just a naval one: note that that limits what you can transport to Gilan without risking confrontation.

I've made the offer for the states arrayed against the coalition to meet. At this point I'm going to close this to any new entries, those who have expressed an interest in joining prior to this post can continue to participate.

Does that mean I can't guard the blockade with you anymore?

[Nation of Warfare]

One question before I apply. Can full military involvement be allowed, or is there a certain troop limit? Don't worry, this just incase I decide to deploy more forces to the region

[Nation of Warfare]

Nevermind, its closed. Sorry.

[Inzunza]

Question: Are we to assume Qadha, Gilan, the Gulf of Tijara, and the surrounding areas are similar to that of the real world? For example, not-Iran (probably named Tijara) is a plateau, the Gulf of Tijara is the same depth with the same flora and sea life as the Persian Gulf, and north of Gilan is not-Azerbaijan and the not-Caspian Sea?

[Crimseia]

I'm assuming the RP is dead?

[Vymar]

I'm assuming the RP is dead?

Not yet. The OP cant post that often, so we are just waiting for him to post

[Pakmar]

Nation Name:Kingdom of Pakmar
Side:Astoria Coalition
Mission:
1. Provide humanitarian aid to Qadha
2. Provide Medevac services to troops fighting Gilan
3. Limited air support

ORBAT:
4 Boeing CH-47 Chinook Helicopters
5 Saab JAS 39 Gripen
20 ground forces mainly medical and special forces

[Astoria]

Finally got a chance to post the opening of the peace summit and some updates on the Gulf, including a bit of how Gilan is reacting to all this.

[Vymar]

Finally got a chance to post the opening of the peace summit and some updates on the Gulf, including a bit of how Gilan is reacting to all this.

If you don't mind, there is a question that has been bugging me for a bit. How big is The Gilanian army, minus me and its other supporters, exactly?