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The Gulf War (OOC/Planning Thread)

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The Gulf War (OOC/Planning Thread)

Postby Astoria » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:27 am

NOW CLOSED TO ADDITIONAL PARTICIPANTS

Hey all, this is the signup/planning thread for The Gulf War, an MT RP that's part 1991 Gulf War, part 2001 Operation Enduring Freedom.

The general setup is thus: Gilan (Not-Iraq), a rogue state in the Middle East, has occupied the small state of Qadha (Not-Kuwait) since 1998. It has been under sanctions since the occupation but those have had little effect because not everyone is participating. Astoria has been using its Navy to protect oil tankers and other shipping in the Gulf since the Not-Iran-Iraq War in the 80s. Gilan has begun supporting Soldiers of the Islamic Jihad, an Islamist terror group that wants to eject Astoria and other foreigners from the region. They pull off an attack on an Astorian warship and Astoria prepares to settle the issue once and for all.

Currently it's me VS the NPC state Gilan, but other states may wish to join in on either side. The end result, in theory, is either a diplomatic resolution (if Gilan gets any major backers that make a war too costly) or a swift invasion of Gilan that frees Qadha and possibly topples the regime.

Other members of the region New Caelondia, whose "world map" this is technically taking place in, will participate in limited roles in the thread. If you're interested in joining a pretty laid-back roleplaying region with plenty of space on its world map and lots of room for new members, talk to me via Telegram.

If you're interested, lay out your interest and planned participation (what side, what type of forces, what objectives) here before posting in the IC thread.
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Postby Astoria » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:32 am

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Current Participant Nations:

Astorian Coalition:
Astoria
The Yukons
Sha Mobutia
Osean
Panama Coalition

Gilan and Backers:
Revolutionary Proletarian Soviets
Vymar
Altpeak

Current Contributions:

Astorian Coalition:
Astoria: Two carrier battlegroups with reinforced warship escorts, squadrons of fighter and attack aircraft based in neighboring states, two Marine Expeditionary Forces (approx. 12,000 men)
The Yukons: Air and naval bases on Socotra and Cyprus, squadrons of fighter and attack aircraft, surface warships, special forces
Sha Mobutia: naval and amphibious forces
Osean: naval and amphibious forces
Panama Coalition: naval and amphibious forces

Gilan and Backers:
Gilani Armed Forces (spread throughout the country, large concentrations of troops in Gilan for occupation duty)
Revolutionary Proletarian Soviets: covert weapons support
Vymar: military forces
Altpeak: weapons and advisors
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Postby The Yukons » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:11 am

The Yukon airbases on Cyprus and Socotra are available for use by Astorian and other coalition forces, and Yukon will commit air, naval, and limited ground support. I'll get a post on the IC thread sometime soon.

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Postby Paradisus Islands » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:17 am

Yes

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Postby Astoria » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:01 am

Paradisus Islands wrote:Yes

Can we get a bit more...substance?
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Postby The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:32 pm

Where is the application?
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Postby Astoria » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:37 pm

The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:Where is the application?

There's no application form to fill out, though you're free to use that format if you want. But I'd frankly prefer nations to write out things like which side they want to support, with what, and why via regular sentences/paragraphs, which I think allows for more nuanced explanations.
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Postby Le Savoie » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:59 pm

Just threw a post onto the IC thread, I won't be doing much more with this one
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Postby Astoria » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:03 pm

Bumped the IC thread with a short update, bumping the OOC thread to accompany.
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Postby The Unified Isles » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:39 am

Hm, I'd be interested in participating, though, tbh, I don't know which side yet :3

I'd preferably sponser some ground troops for a Desert Storm-esque Assault, but if it's not wished to have this be as rape-like as the historical 2nd Gulf War, I could also help out Gilan of course.

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Are both nations capitalist? Or is one of them more left/right leaning than the other?
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Postby Revolutionary Proletarian Soviets » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:04 pm

Altpeak wrote:Are both nations capitalist? Or is one of them more left/right leaning than the other?

I'll be supporting Gilan with covert shipments of arms (you may have noticed Astoria mentioned me in his IC update), mostly for realpolitik reasons, but Gilan does at least pretend to govern according to vaguely socialist Baathist-esque ideals. It's a People's Republic of Tyranny, to use the TVTropes title.

Astoria, I'll have an IC post up soon along the lines we discussed - shipments of arms, tacit acceptance of intervention if it comes to that.

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Postby Astoria » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:10 pm

The Unified Isles wrote:Hm, I'd be interested in participating, though, tbh, I don't know which side yet :3

I'd preferably sponser some ground troops for a Desert Storm-esque Assault, but if it's not wished to have this be as rape-like as the historical 2nd Gulf War, I could also help out Gilan of course.


The plan, unless things in the RP shift dramatically, is for a combination Gulf War/Afghanistan overrun, ejecting Gilan from Qadha and then occupying portions of Gilan itself while striking terror camps with airstrikes and spec ops.

Altpeak wrote:Are both nations capitalist? Or is one of them more left/right leaning than the other?


Astoria operates under managed capitalism, free markets with significant government regulation and intervention, limited nationalization of public industries and a robust social welfare system. Gilan is, as RPS mentioned, a one-party dictatorship professing vaguely Arab Socialism.

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Altpeak wrote:Are both nations capitalist? Or is one of them more left/right leaning than the other?

I'll be supporting Gilan with covert shipments of arms (you may have noticed Astoria mentioned me in his IC update), mostly for realpolitik reasons, but Gilan does at least pretend to govern according to vaguely socialist Baathist-esque ideals. It's a People's Republic of Tyranny, to use the TVTropes title.

Astoria, I'll have an IC post up soon along the lines we discussed - shipments of arms, tacit acceptance of intervention if it comes to that.


Awesome, looking forward to it.

A note to all - we've been using newspaper-type updates for now, but when we move into the warfare/diplomacy stage there will be more conventional type RP posts, at least from myself. Anyone who participates is welcome to use either style.
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Postby RavenSword Solutions » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:33 pm

Curious if I should join as a neighboring rival Arab dictatorship or some rival Islamist state.

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Postby Vymar » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:50 pm

Astoria wrote:Hey all, this is the signup/planning thread for The Gulf War, an MT RP that's part 1991 Gulf War, part 2001 Operation Enduring Freedom.

The general setup is thus: Gilan (Not-Iraq), a rogue state in the Middle East, has occupied the small state of Qadha (Not-Kuwait) since 1998. It has been under sanctions since the occupation but those have had little effect because not everyone is participating. Astoria has been using its Navy to protect oil tankers and other shipping in the Gulf since the Not-Iran-Iraq War in the 80s. Gilan has begun supporting Soldiers of the Islamic Jihad, an Islamist terror group that wants to eject Astoria and other foreigners from the region. They pull off an attack on an Astorian warship and Astoria prepares to settle the issue once and for all.

Currently it's me VS the NPC state Gilan, but other states may wish to join in on either side. The end result, in theory, is either a diplomatic resolution (if Gilan gets any major backers that make a war too costly) or a swift invasion of Gilan that frees Qadha and possibly topples the regime.

Other members of the region New Caelondia, whose "world map" this is technically taking place in, will participate in limited roles in the thread. If you're interested in joining a pretty laid-back roleplaying region with plenty of space on its world map and lots of room for new members, talk to me via Telegram.

If you're interested, lay out your interest and planned participation (what side, what type of forces, what objectives) here before posting in the IC thread.




Ill join
Nation: Vymar
Side: Gilan
Forces: using 2 of our corvettes, 10 f-16 fighter jets, 1 b-52 bomber, 100 tanks (Type99 ), 250 APC/ICVs, 300 Bradleys and 100,000 troops to help manage and protect Gilan. Will involve itself more heavily if war heats up.
Other Means of Support: Using Vymarian special forces to train the terror group in IED and psychological warfare. Funding Gilanian military
Objectives: Vymar is following a goal set called PCD
PROTECT Gilan from falling under foreign hands.
CREATE strong oil partnership with Gilan
DESTROY foreign assets
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Postby Astoria » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:12 pm

RavenSword Solutions wrote:Curious if I should join as a neighboring rival Arab dictatorship or some rival Islamist state.

Certainly, what did you have in mind?
Vymar wrote:Nation: Vymar
Side: Gilan
Forces: using 2 of our corvettes, 10 f-16 fighter jets, 1 b-52 bomber, 100 tanks (Type99 ), 250 APC/ICVs, 300 Bradleys and 100,000 troops to help manage and protect Gilan. Will involve itself more heavily if war heats up.
Other Means of Support: Using Vymarian special forces to train the terror group in IED and psychological warfare. Funding Gilanian military
Objectives: Vymar is following a goal set called PCD
PROTECT Gilan from falling under foreign hands.
CREATE strong oil partnership with Gilan
DESTROY foreign assets

Sounds good, though remember that the ports in Gilan are under blockade, which means you'll have to use air transport or try and force your way through the Gulf
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Postby Vymar » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:31 pm

Astoria wrote:
RavenSword Solutions wrote:Curious if I should join as a neighboring rival Arab dictatorship or some rival Islamist state.

Certainly, what did you have in mind?
Vymar wrote:Nation: Vymar
Side: Gilan
Forces: using 2 of our corvettes, 10 f-16 fighter jets, 1 b-52 bomber, 100 tanks (Type99 ), 250 APC/ICVs, 300 Bradleys and 100,000 troops to help manage and protect Gilan. Will involve itself more heavily if war heats up.
Other Means of Support: Using Vymarian special forces to train the terror group in IED and psychological warfare. Funding Gilanian military
Objectives: Vymar is following a goal set called PCD
PROTECT Gilan from falling under foreign hands.
CREATE strong oil partnership with Gilan
DESTROY foreign assets

Sounds good, though remember that the ports in Gilan are under blockade, which means you'll have to use air transport or try and force your way through the Gulf


Hey, bigger the risk, the finer the reward.
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Postby Sha Mobutia » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:59 am

I figure it'd be fun to get involved in an RP outside of my usual region. Something light and easy that won't involve slavers and inter-regional political ramifications. I'm definitely on the "pro" side of liberating Qadha.





Operation "Ballistic Missive"


2nd Strategic Air Wing
► 11th Strategic Bomber Group
► Ankou Squadron
2x LY912 'Dragonhawk' Superheavy Standoff Bombers

► Ambisagrus Squadron
12x MIHB-16D 'Talon Bane' Strategic Bombers

► Leucetios Squadron
12x MIHB-17 'Mailed Fist' Heavy Strategic Bombers

► Camulus Squadron
12x MIHB-17 'Mailed Fist' Heavy Strategic Bombers



3rd Carrier Battle Fleet
► FRNV "Indomitable"

► FRNV "Marta Hanraets"
► 25x LY908E 'Greyhawk' Fighter/Interceptors
► 25x MAF-50S Silent Pegasus Stealth Fighters[/tab]
► 15x LA-214 'Molior' Utility Helicopters
► 14x LY910 'Shadowhawk' Air Superiority Fighters
► 10x MAH-70 'Kingmaker' Attack Helicopters
► 6x M/LAI-6 'Knife Fighter' Attack Aircraft

► FRNV "Prejudice"
► FRNV "Perseverance"

► FRNV "Hani anak Muhammad"
► FRNV "Rayzal anak Adib"

► FRNV "Syukri anak Khairul"
1x fore-mounted LY366 L65/155mm gun
Aft-mounted medium-lift helicopter and hangar

► FRNV "Ferdi Snijder"
1x fore-mounted 8-cell Multirole Torpedo Launcher
Aft-mounted towed-array sonar housing

► FRNV "Meindert Van Der Beek"
Fore-mounted underway stores module
Aft-mounted sea-mine launcher

► FRNV "Margriet Romeijnsen"
16x fore-mounted GWLS.35M2 4-cell VLS
Aft-mounted AN/MPQ-71 'Keep' air defense radar

► FRNV "Taufik anak Idin"
16x fore-mounted GWLS.35M2 4-cell VLS
Aft-mounted AN/MPQ-71 'Keep' air defense radar


► FRNV "Bravery"
► FRNV "Benevolence"

► FRNV "Stingray"
► FRNV "Willem Dirk"
► FRNV "Gerd Tunison"






Vymar wrote:The Vymarian military wakes up early today. 3 Corvettes set off to confront the blockade in the gulf of Tijara And 3 AC-130s, two carrying 2 ICVs/APCs each, 3 B-52 bombers, 10 cargo planes carrying 1,000 troops in total and 10 F-16s headed around to the west of Gilan. All having direct orders to only fire if fired upon, raising international tensions further then ever before.


Just a note for reference: an AC-130 can't carry cargo of any kind, especially not something as bulky as a full-blown APC or IFV. Its exclusively a gunship. The cargo compartment is dedicated to the weapons systems and ammunition.
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Postby Altpeak » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:20 am

In the interests of preventing a complete curb stomp like happened in the actual First Gulf and Iraq wars, I'll be joining as a foreign ally of Gilan. For the moment my plan is to supply Gilan with equipment and training, no actual troops on the frontline. My current plan for what equipment I'll give them is:

Equipment:
-4 SU-30s
-12 SU-27s
-35 MiG-29Ms
-24 SU-24Ms
-91 Mi-24Ps
-12 S-300 SAMs
-50 Scud-D missile launchers
-450 T-72s
25 2K12
-4 TOS-1s
-1000 9K34 Strela launchers

Weapons
-600 Scud-D tactical balistic missiles
-2,100 R-27 AAMs
-4,200 R-77 AAMs
-4,200 R-60 AAMs
-4,200 R-73 AAMs
-6,495 CBU-87s cluster bombs
-6,038 MK84 laser guided general purpose bombs
-12,304 MK82 laser guided general purpose bombs
-500 2K12 missiles
-5000 9K34 missiles

That will be accompanied by 1,500 training staff
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Postby German England and Russia » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:23 am

I'll be assist Altpeak.
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Postby Tobiasia » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:30 pm

Could I support Qadla? A navy in the gulf?
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Postby Osean » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:33 pm

Nation name: The Federation of Osean
Side: Astoria Coalition
Reason for joining: To help Coalition forces eliminate Islamic Jihad and free Qadha from Gilan Rule.
ORBAT:
13th Expeditionary Fleet
1 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier
91st Air Attack Squadron
33nd Anti Ship Squadron

4 Reaper Class Missile Cruisers
6 Goliath Class Missile Destroyers
2nd Marine Division
15,000 Marines
5,000 APC's
150 Tanks
50 AH-1Z Viper Attack Helicopters
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Postby Inzunza » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:16 pm

Nation: Republic of Inzunza
Supporting Faction: Gilan
Forces and Personnel: Currently involved in a regional conflict as well as hosting a relatively pacifist population. Thus, a small medical attachment will be sent with a light supporting force to ensure the safety of any established field hospitals. A company of 180 Medical Staff and a company of 120 Naval Infantry, 12 BTR-152's serving as field ambulances. Very small force.

We proud, proletariat loving Inzunzans see Gilan as a nation who intends to drain the supply of the Imperialism but striking down the capitalist puppet state. To benefit the oppressed everywhere, we can not stand idly by as conflict ensues. Of course, we don't want to be a huge part of the conflict so... medical support must suffice.
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Postby Sha Mobutia » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:23 pm

Astoria wrote:Sounds good, though remember that the ports in Gilan are under blockade, which means you'll have to use air transport or try and force your way through the Gulf


I'd let him go the advisor route. It'd make more sense that way, imo, if they were already there. It also wouldn't make it so much of a one-sided fight in your favor.
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Postby Panama Coalition » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:55 pm

Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Panama Coalition
Side: Astoria Coalition
Reason for joining: To help Coalition forces eliminate Islamic Jihad and free Qadha from Gilan Rule.
ORBAT:
Navy:
23th and 9th Naval Task Force
Defense Force Army:
15th Federal Expeditionary Division (60 000 troops)
24th Air Combat Cavalry Division (20 000 troops)
19th Armored Division (20 000 troops)
1st Infantry Division (20 000 troops)
12th Airborne Division (12 000 troops)
2nd Ranger Brigade (2 000 troops)
Marines:
First Marine Division (30 000 troops)
Panamanian Air Force:
4th Air Force (1500 aircraft)
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