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World Anti-Slavery Organization

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Where would you like to see most of WASO's action?

Underground Organizations that help slaves run away
509
22%
Buying slaves at slave auctions
359
16%
Interfering in slave trade
467
20%
Military action on nations with much slavery
569
25%
Taking sides in wars that involve slavery
376
16%
 
Total votes : 2280

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Calmerica
Diplomat
 
Posts: 814
Founded: Aug 31, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Calmerica » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:26 pm

The Kingdom of Calmerica would like to donate 3,000,000 of our finest Marines to your cause, as well as $10M. We also would publicly endorse any military action against nations promoting slavery.

o/ WASO
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Osthia
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Posts: 5220
Founded: May 15, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Osthia » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:27 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Osthia wrote:Well, no one has a thread for me to buy slaves, so...this is the only way to do it.

Wha-? Yes they do there are many of them that's actually what the debate is about, people are selling slaves.

give me a link then so i may do so. i am not gonna sift through hundreds of pages that have the word "slaves" in them.

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The Floor Kippers
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Posts: 37624
Founded: Feb 12, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby The Floor Kippers » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:28 pm

Calmerica wrote:The Kingdom of Calmerica would like to donate 3,000,000 of our finest Marines to your cause, as well as $10M. We also would publicly endorse any military action against nations promoting slavery.

o/ WASO

Kind Sir, We are grateful for your donation but "While we appreciate the thought, please do not donate military unless it is medics or rescue workers"
If that Is the Purpose of the marines then we apologize for taking up your time
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Great Nepal wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:Britain has a stronger claim than Argentina does.

That doesn't say much...
Martian alien slugs who have never heard of earth have stronger claim than Argentina.

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Des-Bal
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Posts: 32055
Founded: Jan 24, 2010
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Des-Bal » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:28 pm

Osthia wrote:give me a link then so i may do so. i am not gonna sift through hundreds of pages that have the word "slaves" in them.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=54878&start=0
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Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
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Hornopolis
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Posts: 5992
Founded: Sep 26, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Hornopolis » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:47 pm

"There be loot over yonder."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish
4/11/11

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The Anglo-Saxon Empire
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13903
Founded: Nov 21, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:03 pm

Osthia wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:Wha-? Yes they do there are many of them that's actually what the debate is about, people are selling slaves.

give me a link then so i may do so. i am not gonna sift through hundreds of pages that have the word "slaves" in them.

Mine are the best (more specialized, purpose bred), check in my sig under RP info.
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Finnish North America
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 425
Founded: Jul 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Finnish North America » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:03 pm

I am donating 50 million euros and 100,000 eager college activists to be used as rescue workers. We plan on buying some slaves on our own and freeing them. I will post when I do so. If there ever is war against your nation by a fascist slave state we will help you liberate that country. If there are slaves in space that need freed, you may use our space program.
Nations on which we have halted trade with:
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Neucom INC
Jbeil

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Shrillland
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21036
Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:43 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Our Nation is now taking a more proactive approach to ending slavery.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=77759

No offense, but that idea just seems terrible. In most countries with slavery you will be unable to reach the slaves (in my case because they are in compounds, or living with the wealthy like harem slaves), the slaves will not rise up (they are neutral or like their situation, there is no way to communicate, their will has been broken), or they cannot hope to defeat their government (in most countries with slavery less than half their population is made up of slaves, so they will always be outnumbered if they rise up). Even if you do start a war, I doubt the losses will be worth it. Is it worth killing 800,000 slaves, 500,000 free men (some or most of whom might be against or neutral towards slavery), and destroying $500,000,000 in property just to free 8 million slaves?


Our rich nobles thought their serfs wills were broken as well. And when the revolution came and they discovered that the will cannot be destroyed, they learned a lesson that they did not live long enough to profit from.
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Des-Bal
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Posts: 32055
Founded: Jan 24, 2010
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Des-Bal » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:45 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Our rich nobles thought their serfs wills were broken as well. And when the revolution came and they discovered that the will cannot be destroyed, they learned a lesson that they did not live long enough to profit from.


Those are YOUR nobles who by objective standards are filthy, poor, and for all intents and purposes unarmed.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

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Hornopolis
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Posts: 5992
Founded: Sep 26, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Hornopolis » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:51 pm

"This organization is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given right to own another human being."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish
4/11/11

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Shrillland
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Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:53 pm

Does not that Human being being owned have rights?
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The Floor Kippers
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Posts: 37624
Founded: Feb 12, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby The Floor Kippers » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:54 pm

Hornopolis wrote:"This organization is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given right to own another human being."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish

"Explain How It is a "God Given right" for one man to own another?"
-Sir Nigel Griffin, Prime Minister, Ex Anti-slaving Squad Sargent.
Co-Founder of The Realm of Unrestricted Science.
“The shortest unit of time in the multiverse is the New York Second, defined as the period of time between the traffic lights turning green and the cab behind you honking.”
"Never discuss religion, politics, or toast"
Great Nepal wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:Britain has a stronger claim than Argentina does.

That doesn't say much...
Martian alien slugs who have never heard of earth have stronger claim than Argentina.

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The Rich Port
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Posts: 38094
Founded: Jul 29, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby The Rich Port » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:56 pm

The Floor Kippers wrote:
Hornopolis wrote:"This organization is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given right to own another human being."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish

"Explain How It is a "God Given right" for one man to own another?"
-Sir Nigel Griffin, Prime Minister, Ex Anti-slaving Squad Sargent.


Because BIBLE. :lol: The Bible sucks.

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Des-Bal
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Posts: 32055
Founded: Jan 24, 2010
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Des-Bal » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:57 pm

Shrillland wrote:Does not that Human being being owned have rights?


Yes they do. Those rights are simply different.
The Floor Kippers wrote:"Explain How It is a "God Given right" for one man to own another?"
-Sir Nigel Griffin, Prime Minister, Ex Anti-slaving Squad Sargent.

Having both the ability and desire to do so without causing harm is all that should be necessary to justify the right.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

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Hornopolis
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Posts: 5992
Founded: Sep 26, 2009
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Postby Hornopolis » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:58 pm

"He forfeits that right when he becomes owned."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish


"To answer the silly Prime Minister's question, God gave us this Earth, and God gave us this life. God gave us a right, and that right is to enslave the unworthy, to put down the abominations he mistakenly created, God gave us the right to own another man to right his wrong, and rid the world of the unworthy human beings."
-1st Mate Ira Hayes
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish
4/11/11

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The Rich Port
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Founded: Jul 29, 2008
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:00 pm

Hornopolis wrote:"He forfeits that right when he becomes owned."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish


"To answer the silly Prime Minister's question, God gave us this Earth, and God gave us this life. God gave us a right, and that right is to enslave the unworthy, to put down the abominations he mistakenly created, God gave us the right to own another man to right his wrong, and rid the world of the unworthy human beings."
-1st Mate Ira Hayes
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish


Told you so.

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The Floor Kippers
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Founded: Feb 12, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby The Floor Kippers » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:01 pm

Hornopolis wrote:"He forfeits that right when he becomes owned."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish


"To answer the silly Prime Minister's question, God gave us this Earth, and God gave us this life. God gave us a right, and that right is to enslave the unworthy, to put down the abominations he mistakenly created, God gave us the right to own another man to right his wrong, and rid the world of the unworthy human beings."
-1st Mate Ira Hayes
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish

"It is Every man, woman, child and Non-Human's right to have freedom. Don't you Bring Religion in as an excuse to be extremely Crappy to other People, That excuse has outstayed its welcome"
- Sir Nigel.
Co-Founder of The Realm of Unrestricted Science.
“The shortest unit of time in the multiverse is the New York Second, defined as the period of time between the traffic lights turning green and the cab behind you honking.”
"Never discuss religion, politics, or toast"
Great Nepal wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:Britain has a stronger claim than Argentina does.

That doesn't say much...
Martian alien slugs who have never heard of earth have stronger claim than Argentina.

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New Amerik
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8801
Founded: Feb 08, 2010
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby New Amerik » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:02 pm

Hornopolis wrote:"This organization is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given right to own another human being."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish


Yes, and? Really, you folks should really learn some better tactics, changing flags is all fine and good but you keep forgetting to disguise the name of your country! Honestly, we can see ya horns a mile away from here.

Bring back that Shakespearian fellow, he was quite alright with us.
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Shrillland
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Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:04 pm

Hornopolis wrote:"He forfeits that right when he becomes owned."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish


"To answer the silly Prime Minister's question, God gave us this Earth, and God gave us this life. God gave us a right, and that right is to enslave the unworthy, to put down the abominations he mistakenly created, God gave us the right to own another man to right his wrong, and rid the world of the unworthy human beings."
-1st Mate Ira Hayes
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish


No creature is an abomination of God, and the Holy father does not make mistakes! Such thought is blasphemous. Our Holy Father created all beings equally, and they must all be treated equally.

Wouter II, Patriarch of the Church of Shrillland
How America Came to This, by Kowani: Racialised Politics, Ideological Media Gaslighting, and What It All Means For The Future
Plebiscite Plaza 2023
Confused by the names I use for House districts? Here's a primer!
In 1963, Doctor Who taught us all we need to know about politics when a cave woman said, "Old men see no further than tomorrow's meat".

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Des-Bal
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Founded: Jan 24, 2010
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Des-Bal » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:04 pm

The Floor Kippers wrote:"It is Every man, woman, child and Non-Human's right to have freedom. Don't you Bring Religion in as an excuse to be extremely Crappy to other People, That excuse has outstayed its welcome"
- Sir Nigel.

So your saying that you cannot respect cultural or religious differences?
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

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Teccor
Minister
 
Posts: 2259
Founded: Oct 09, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Teccor » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:05 pm

Hornopolis wrote:"This organization is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given right to own another human being."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish

"Hornopolis is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given rights of Freedom and Liberty."
- Every Smart Person Alive
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The Floor Kippers
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Founded: Feb 12, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby The Floor Kippers » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:06 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:"It is Every man, woman, child and Non-Human's right to have freedom. Don't you Bring Religion in as an excuse to be extremely Crappy to other People, That excuse has outstayed its welcome"
- Sir Nigel.

So your saying that you cannot respect cultural or religious differences?

"No, I'm saying that "For Religion!" Is No longer an acceptable excuse in these modern Times"
Teccor wrote:
Hornopolis wrote:"This organization is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given right to own another human being."
- Captain Alison Rains
Merchant Raider Group Swordfish

"Hornopolis is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given rights of Freedom and Liberty."
- Every Smart Person Alive

"Hear Hear!"
Co-Founder of The Realm of Unrestricted Science.
“The shortest unit of time in the multiverse is the New York Second, defined as the period of time between the traffic lights turning green and the cab behind you honking.”
"Never discuss religion, politics, or toast"
Great Nepal wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:Britain has a stronger claim than Argentina does.

That doesn't say much...
Martian alien slugs who have never heard of earth have stronger claim than Argentina.

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Teccor
Minister
 
Posts: 2259
Founded: Oct 09, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Teccor » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:06 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:"It is Every man, woman, child and Non-Human's right to have freedom. Don't you Bring Religion in as an excuse to be extremely Crappy to other People, That excuse has outstayed its welcome"
- Sir Nigel.

So your saying that you cannot respect cultural or religious differences?

Optimus Prime wrote:Freedom is the Right of all Sentient beings.


OOC: Oh. What was that sound? I think it was you being pwned senseless. ;)
"The modern definition of "racist" is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal leftist." -Peter Brimelow
Important People
Minister of Commerce: Alexander Ferinzei
Minister of International Affairs: Mayumi Thyme
Minister of Internal Affairs: Desmond Vito
Minister of Defence: Martin Langfield
Wars
Shataristani War (Treaty Reached)
WarLev
Peacetime
[Arms Build-up]
Small-Scale Conflict
Full-Scale War
You... you snowman! ~ New Kereptica, on Racial Slurs
I find flipping people off to work quite well ~ Buffet and Colbert, on Dating
Zetion wrote:Fuck PETA, my meat tastes better knwoing they dont want me to eat it.
Marquesan wrote:Furthermore, a news flash. This just in from the department of pancakes: F*ck waffles.

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The Rich Port
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38094
Founded: Jul 29, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby The Rich Port » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:07 pm

Teccor wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:So your saying that you cannot respect cultural or religious differences?

Optimus Prime wrote:Freedom is the Right of all Sentient beings.


OOC: Oh. What was that sound? I think it was you being pwned senseless. ;)


:clap:

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Des-Bal
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32055
Founded: Jan 24, 2010
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Des-Bal » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:08 pm

The Floor Kippers wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:So your saying that you cannot respect cultural or religious differences?

"No, I'm saying that "For Religion!" Is No longer an acceptable excuse in these modern Times"
Teccor wrote:"Hornopolis is no more than a joke and a failure created by simple-minded folk who refuse their own citizens the god given rights of Freedom and Liberty."
- Every Smart Person Alive

"Hear Hear!"


Ah, so your advocating a totally secular world?
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

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