World Anti-Slavery Organization

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

I don't get it... 25% of voters want military action of sorts and WASO doesn't want donations in military hardware(even if my donations tend to be Cold War relics like the T-62 or the RPG-7).

[The Rich Port]

I don't get it... 25% of voters want military action of sorts and WASO doesn't want donations in military hardware(even if my donations tend to be Cold War relics like the T-62 or the RPG-7).

There is a certain controversy towards attacking slave nations. More than likely, slavers will kill their merchandise rather than just let the WASO reclaim it. In an effort to stop this, Denecaep changed it's policies. WASO doesn't have to claim responsibility for dead slaves, but can help clean up the mess. Or something like that. It's just a theory. Ask Denecaep.

[Teccor]

My population of 13 billion all live in one of seven thousand "compounds" which are 5km square buildings that extend two kilometers into the earth. They are connected by underground rail. The country is surround, coasts included, by a high wall. There are five gates and two ports of entry in the wall, all for the use of the few thousmde noble caste members or the imperil trading company, all slavers. Read my factbook.

With a nation like that, and only a 'few thousand' people allowed outside, you'd have around zilch economy.

I don't see how your nation could have anything, actually. There's no homes, no resource gathering of any sort, and no means of making money save for a slave trade.

You'd be dirt broke just trying to feed your people. Period.

Therefore: I call wank.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

I don't get it... 25% of voters want military action of sorts and WASO doesn't want donations in military hardware(even if my donations tend to be Cold War relics like the T-62 or the RPG-7).

There is a certain controversy towards attacking slave nations. More than likely, slavers will kill their merchandise rather than just let the WASO reclaim it. In an effort to stop this, Denecaep changed it's policies. WASO doesn't have to claim responsibility for dead slaves, but can help clean up the mess. Or something like that. It's just a theory. Ask Denecaep.

That can politically cover the ass ofa potential Privateer Business against slaver shipsmisfire.

[Emporer Pudu]

My population of 13 billion all live in one of seven thousand "compounds" which are 5km square buildings that extend two kilometers into the earth. They are connected by underground rail. The country is surround, coasts included, by a high wall. There are five gates and two ports of entry in the wall, all for the use of the few thousmde noble caste members or the imperil trading company, all slavers. Read my factbook.

Sounds obscenely more like a prison than a country. 'The fuck?

Citizens are grown artificially in laboratories and raised in their profession. They work 12 hours a day and never leave the compounds. They are taught to love this life, and their Emperor. And yeah, there are "police" everywhere too.

Sorry about the goofy spelling and stuff on the post above, I was typing from an iTouch in a class lol

What economy do I need? I have a large and well-documented Empire I've stolen over the past six years of my playing this game, not to mention a whole continent of resources. Of course there's no homes, people live in sleeping pods when they're not working for the STATE. I can gather resources from inside a compound, or import them from the colonies. We can farm inside the colonies compounds. Money is a silly concept invented by people who didn't like barter. You don't need it, especially in a self-contained society. I can just mine gold and call it money, because that's how that concept was invented, and it worked just fine for real-life civilizations.

A human society thus based is feasible, just not plausible. That's what this game is for.

[The Rich Port]

My population of 13 billion all live in one of seven thousand "compounds" which are 5km square buildings that extend two kilometers into the earth. They are connected by underground rail. The country is surround, coasts included, by a high wall. There are five gates and two ports of entry in the wall, all for the use of the few thousmde noble caste members or the imperil trading company, all slavers. Read my factbook.

With a nation like that, and only a 'few thousand' people allowed outside, you'd have around zilch economy.

I don't see how your nation could have anything, actually. There's no homes, no resource gathering of any sort, and no means of making money save for a slave trade.

You'd be dirt broke just trying to feed your people. Period.

Therefore: I call wank.

Well called, sir!

Sounds obscenely more like a prison than a country. 'The fuck?

Citizens are grown artificially in laboratories and raised in their profession. They work 12 hours a day and never leave the compounds. They are taught to love this life, and their Emperor. And yeah, there are "police" everywhere too.

Sorry about the goofy spelling and stuff on the post above, I was typing from an iTouch in a class lol

What economy do I need? I have a large and well-documented Empire I've stolen over the past six years of my playing this game, not to mention a whole continent of resources. Of course there's no homes, people live in sleeping pods when they're not working for the STATE. I can gather resources from inside a compound, or import them from the colonies. We can farm inside the colonies. Money is a silly concept invented by people who didn't like barter. You don't need it, especially in a self-contained society. I can just mine gold and call it money, because that's how that concept was invented, and it worked just fine for real-life civilizations.

A human society thus based is feasible, just not plausible. That's what this game is for.

There is such a thing a failing the game, though. Just sayin'. 'Sides, games are about having a little bit o' fun. I wouldn't call an impregnable prison "fun" because there's little you can do with it other than... Well, have it be impregnable.

[Emporer Pudu]

With a nation like that, and only a 'few thousand' people allowed outside, you'd have around zilch economy.

I don't see how your nation could have anything, actually. There's no homes, no resource gathering of any sort, and no means of making money save for a slave trade.

You'd be dirt broke just trying to feed your people. Period.

Therefore: I call wank.

Well called, sir!

Citizens are grown artificially in laboratories and raised in their profession. They work 12 hours a day and never leave the compounds. They are taught to love this life, and their Emperor. And yeah, there are "police" everywhere too.

Sorry about the goofy spelling and stuff on the post above, I was typing from an iTouch in a class lol

What economy do I need? I have a large and well-documented Empire I've stolen over the past six years of my playing this game, not to mention a whole continent of resources. Of course there's no homes, people live in sleeping pods when they're not working for the STATE. I can gather resources from inside a compound, or import them from the colonies. We can farm inside the colonies. Money is a silly concept invented by people who didn't like barter. You don't need it, especially in a self-contained society. I can just mine gold and call it money, because that's how that concept was invented, and it worked just fine for real-life civilizations.

A human society thus based is feasible, just not plausible. That's what this game is for.

There is such a thing a failing the game, though. Just sayin'. 'Sides, games are about having a little bit o' fun. I wouldn't call an impregnable prison "fun" because there's little you can do with it other than... Well, have it be impregnable.

Are you saying I lose because you don't think my country is fun?

Also, I can obviously do something, as evidenced by these anti-anti-slaver threads I'm starting. I can consider that fun, or are the fun-police anti-slavery?

[GBeckastania]

The Government of GBeckastania donates $12,000,000 USD, as well as 250,000 trained soldiers.
If any nations would like to join World Superpowers Region, we may be able to help WASO by using a strong voice within the WA to pass a resolution creating an international anti-slavery military group which may act under WA discesion, or we could as a region donate to the cause.

[British Kuwait]

The Government of GBeckastania donates $12,000,000 USD, as well as 250,000 trained soldiers.
If any nations would like to join World Superpowers Region, we may be able to help WASO by using a strong voice within the WA to pass a resolution creating an international anti-slavery military group which may act under WA discesion, or we could as a region donate to the cause.

Military donations are not accepted.

[GBeckastania]

The Government of GBeckastania donates $12,000,000 USD, as well as 250,000 trained soldiers.
If any nations would like to join World Superpowers Region, we may be able to help WASO by using a strong voice within the WA to pass a resolution creating an international anti-slavery military group which may act under WA discesion, or we could as a region donate to the cause.

Military donations are not accepted.

I apologize, I was not aware of this fact, instead I would like to donate a team of 2,500 medics.

[British Kuwait]

Alright well here's my bi-weekly donation.

To: The World Anti-Slavery Organization
From:The Government of British Kuwait

In order to commend this organization for it courageous actions, on behalf of the entire nation of British Kuwait we present to you the sum of $40,000,000 NSD.
Noting that the world is still filled with in-humane slave trades and crimes against humanity, we the government of British Kuwait announce the formation of the British Kuwait Anti-Slavery Organization within our own borders which will be funded by the government and by personal donations of the citizens of British Kuwait. We hope that one day this atrocicity of slavery will end world-wide, until then we are in full support of organizations like these.

[Ishema]

The Empire of Ishema
Official Diplomatic Message

TO: The World Anti-Slavery Organization
FROM: The Empire of Ishema

Dear World Anti-Slavery Organization,

After hearing of your organization's goals and learning of its past deeds, the Grand Council has decided to condemn you. Ishema strongly believes in the right of each nation to govern itself according to how its people wish to be ruled. Placing sanctions, limits, or blockades on or outright attacking a nation simply because its policies disagree with your own is disgraceful and anti-chivalric. You have no right to decided how a nation treats its citizens unless the nation in question requests something of you. Then, it would be a dishonor to fail in completing the request. You organization does not meet any of sort of criteria when it comes to honor or "good deeds". It is unfortunate that you have been able to sway so many nations to your unworthy cause, and as such, it is the responsibility of the Isheman Empire to do everything in its power to hinder, stall, and end your operations. We will not sit idly by while innocent, devout, and otherwise benevolent nations are violated in the manner that your organization has seen fit to do so.

If, however, you were to cease all efforts to end slavery in other nations, and you repay and reimburse those nations which you have stripped of liberty and wealth, and you offer your full cooperation in returning the slaves, or the equivalent amount of slaves, which you have stolen from other nations, then you will be redeemed in our eyes, and the eyes of those nations which you have harmed, distressed, or otherwise insulted. We hope that you can see the wisdom in doing so, and that you decide to follow the best, and most sensible course of action.

Sincerely,
The High Council of the Empire of Ishema

Signed:


Prince Reman LVI, High Councilor


Tyronius Atrius, Diplomatic Councilor


Emperor Reman LV

[Teccor]

Sounds obscenely more like a prison than a country. 'The fuck?

Citizens are grown artificially in laboratories and raised in their profession. They work 12 hours a day and never leave the compounds. They are taught to love this life, and their Emperor. And yeah, there are "police" everywhere too.

Sorry about the goofy spelling and stuff on the post above, I was typing from an iTouch in a class lol

What economy do I need? I have a large and well-documented Empire I've stolen over the past six years of my playing this game, not to mention a whole continent of resources. Of course there's no homes, people live in sleeping pods when they're not working for the STATE. I can gather resources from inside a compound, or import them from the colonies. We can farm inside the colonies compounds. Money is a silly concept invented by people who didn't like barter. You don't need it, especially in a self-contained society. I can just mine gold and call it money, because that's how that concept was invented, and it worked just fine for real-life civilizations.

A human society thus based is feasible, just not plausible. That's what this game is for.

Impregnable compound-country = wank.

Good day, sir.

[Mediterreania]

Ishema strongly believes in the right of each nation to govern itself according to how its people wish to be ruled...You have no right to decided how a nation treats its citizens unless the nation in question requests something of you.

What about the slaves? Where is their say?

[The Black Plains]

Ishema strongly believes in the right of each nation to govern itself according to how its people wish to be ruled...You have no right to decided how a nation treats its citizens unless the nation in question requests something of you.

What about the slaves? Where is their say?

Says the nation with worker co-ops. Psh.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

What about the slaves? Where is their say?

Says the nation with worker co-ops. Psh.

LOL good one BP.

[Emporer Pudu]

Good day, sir.

If you want something more than the dumbed-down rundown I gave you, then ask anytime. Or just assume I've played for six years and those two paragraphs were the only thing I ever managed to think up about my country. Sorry, you're being a little immature in making assumptions.

For example, there are two stand-alone "governments" that report to the Emperor. There is the Imperial Government, which is the compounds and tube-people. Then there is the Tongmenghui, which is the assembly of landed nobility. Anyone speaking to me seriously about espionage or terrorism or whatever in my country would learn that the first step is to meet one of these guys. Not really that hard, if you start asking around. They, like many filthy rich folks, like making more money. Many run businesses out of the colonies (which are not compound-ized, btw) or in friendly nations.

The Noble's are unpoliced, that is, they come and go as they please one of those two ports of entry I mentioned is administered solely by the Tongmenghui, which means anyone and anything coming in on a ship registered to trade with the Tongmenghui can get in. After that you'd either want to associate with the dissident sepratist Nobles, of which there are a few, or with the Khung nationalists. The Khung are an ethnic group that is derived from the people of the country before the implementation of the compounds. Although they are technically "hunted" by the Imperial Government, nobody really bothers to go after them.

On the other hand, there are all kinds of officials inside the government itself maneuvering for the top seat. The Praetorian Guard are disenfranchised from their historical "guard the emperor" thang, and they're not really happy about being replaced. The Praetorian Prefect also controls land of his own, including an entire Praetorian-administered colony, so they're super-easy to make contact with.

There's also the Foreign Affairs and Foreign Relations office squabbles; the Imperial Government and the Tongmenghui have independent bureaus of international relations, and Mr. White, the head of the Foreign Relations Office of the Tongmengui has amassed a personal army of slave-soldiers in anticipation of a coming civil war. The Imperial Trading Company itself, although unlikely to side with anti-slavers, is not particularly inclined to be tied down to a government that just funnels a large portion of their profits away from them.

The compounds are not important. The system is in place to keep the people from thinking too much about their government, and it works.

[Ishema]

Ishema strongly believes in the right of each nation to govern itself according to how its people wish to be ruled...You have no right to decided how a nation treats its citizens unless the nation in question requests something of you.

What about the slaves? Where is their say?

A slave's say is forfeited when they commit a crime worthy as having slavery as a punishment. There are laws about slavery in Ishema, and if they broken, the offenders are punished as well. You may not know how Isheman slavery works. The only way to become a slave is to be sentenced into slavery, or sold by another nation or corporation. You shall remain a slave for life unless otherwise decreed by the High Council. Your offspring shall remain in the custody of you, and they will be set free when they reach the age of maturity (currently 15).

[Teccor]

Good day, sir.

If you want something more than the dumbed-down rundown I gave you, then ask anytime. Or just assume I've played for six years and those two paragraphs were the only thing I ever managed to think up about my country. Sorry, you're being a little immature in making assumptions.

For example, there are two stand-alone "governments" that report to the Emperor. There is the Imperial Government, which is the compounds and tube-people. Then there is the Tongmenghui, which is the assembly of landed nobility. Anyone speaking to me seriously about espionage or terrorism or whatever in my country would learn that the first step is to meet one of these guys. Not really that hard, if you start asking around. They, like many filthy rich folks, like making more money. Many run businesses out of the colonies (which are not compound-ized, btw) or in friendly nations.

The Noble's are unpoliced, that is, they come and go as they please one of those two ports of entry I mentioned is administered solely by the Tongmenghui, which means anyone and anything coming in on a ship registered to trade with the Tongmenghui can get in. After that you'd either want to associate with the dissident sepratist Nobles, of which there are a few, or with the Khung nationalists. The Khung are an ethnic group that is derived from the people of the country before the implementation of the compounds. Although they are technically "hunted" by the Imperial Government, nobody really bothers to go after them.

On the other hand, there are all kinds of officials inside the government itself maneuvering for the top seat. The Praetorian Guard are disenfranchised from their historical "guard the emperor" thang, and they're not really happy about being replaced. The Praetorian Prefect also controls land of his own, including an entire Praetorian-administered colony, so they're super-easy to make contact with.

There's also the Foreign Affairs and Foreign Relations office squabbles; the Imperial Government and the Tongmenghui have independent bureaus of international relations, and Mr. White, the head of the Foreign Relations Office of the Tongmengui has amassed a personal army of slave-soldiers in anticipation of a coming civil war. The Imperial Trading Company itself, although unlikely to side with anti-slavers, is not particularly inclined to be tied down to a government that just funnels a large portion of their profits away from them.

The compounds are not important. The system is in place to keep the people from thinking too much about their government, and it works.

Hey, knock it off calling people trolls. The way you described your nation sounded like "lolihazsuperbase". You should have posted all of that to begin with because, honestly, everyone here (myself included) thought you pulled it out of your ass.

Time played doesn't automatically equal any sort of standing or reverence on NS. I've seen '03 nations that were total n00bs and post one-liners in serious RPs.

According to what you wrote, wouldn't the filthy rich Nobles simply raise an army of slaves (as one seems to have), and secede? Why in the world would they stay cooped up in a police state? Even if they're 'unpoliced', the threat of being policed would be enough to cause them to band together and secede.

On that, there are too many individual, autonomous entities that the government seems to have little sway over. They would probably have already left, or created their own nation.

In essence, your government, and nation by extension, is a huge clusterf*ck and is by no means capable of running as anything more than anarchy.

I'm totally open to any refuting arguments you may have, however.

[Diol]

The way you've described your nobels raises in interesting question in my head. Are your nobils...bribable?

[The Rich Port]

Are you saying I lose because you don't think my country is fun?

Also, I can obviously do something, as evidenced by these anti-anti-slaver threads I'm starting. I can consider that fun, or are the fun-police anti-slavery?

That's how the game and games in general work.

Notice how my country is do-anything-you-want central. You can literally do anything you want and the government will help you do that. Except for crime. That's pretty much a universal no-no. Wanna be a professional? We have some of the best Education in the world and it's already paid thanks to your taxes. Wanna be a politician? Go ahead! Pick from any number of parties, from the Rent Is Too High Party tothe Guns And Dope Party, we have all kinds to pick for representation! You just wanna kick back and enjoy your days? Well, ever since we went Capitalist, that's become a little hard, but fear not! There is such a thing as early retirement. Wanna get high? Non-addictive drugs are de-criminalized! Use in moderation or else you'll need to get a dyalisis and that's just not pretty.

Now then... Compare to your country.

Wanna get shot? No problem! Just stop working and we'll gladly end your life...

And that seems to be pretty much it.

And really, it's been well-established that countries are "fail" when their people suffer and are unhappy and most of them are slaves to a few rich dillweeds. I applaud national sovereignty and all that stuff... But only when they're actually doing a good job and there really is no reason to disturb them.

But that's just IMO. NationStates people seem to be real touchy about that kinda stuff. I don't mind, really.

[Emporer Pudu]

And really, it's been well-established that countries are "fail" when their people suffer and are unhappy and most of them are slaves to a few rich dillweeds. I applaud national sovereignty and all that stuff... But only when they're actually doing a good job and there really is no reason to disturb them.

Well established by what? The other country in real-life whose people are grown in laboratories and live their lives in a single building doing the only thing they've ever done? They're not miserable, because they don't know any better. There really is nothing to compare it to.

@Teccor, I meant troll in the most lighthearted way possible, I am not taking offense over what you think of my imaginary country, don't worry.

I don't know what would warrant the work clusterfuck, though. The Imperial Government has a firm hand on everything important to governance; being national defense, food production, resource production, manufacturing, etc. The Noble's are bound by tradition, and laziness, to not actually rebel. They also get very healthy stipends from the government. The "Imperial Government" has little sway over certain things, but everyone is loyal to the Emperor, at least in words. What I have is only perhaps as conniving and politically dangerous as, say, the Roman empire I've based much of my country's governance on.

Also, I have a very detailed civil war plot that I am far too lazy to actually write, and so I am content to RP for now as a nation on the verge of that civil war, infighting, maneuvering, and general fun-times included. There are presently eleven independent intelligence organizations operated by one government or another or some branch or another. What fun would it be if there wasn't some conflict.

Also, don't blame me for the short description early on, I did tell you to read my factbook. I guess nobody took me up on it. Search in NSwiki I said... Oh well. =p

[The Rich Port]

And really, it's been well-established that countries are "fail" when their people suffer and are unhappy and most of them are slaves to a few rich dillweeds. I applaud national sovereignty and all that stuff... But only when they're actually doing a good job and there really is no reason to disturb them.

Well established by what? The other country in real-life whose people are grown in laboratories and live their lives in a single building doing the only thing they've ever done? They're not miserable, because they don't know any better. There really is nothing to compare it to.

@Teccor, I meant troll in the most lighthearted way possible, I am not taking offense over what you think of my imaginary country, don't worry.

I don't know what would warrant the work clusterfuck, though. The Imperial Government has a firm hand on everything important to governance; being national defense, food production, resource production, manufacturing, etc. The Noble's are bound by tradition, and laziness, to not actually rebel. They also get very healthy stipends from the government. The "Imperial Government" has little sway over certain things, but everyone is loyal to the Emperor, at least in words. What I have is only perhaps as conniving and politically dangerous as, say, the Roman empire I've based much of my country's governance on.

Also, I have a very detailed civil war plot that I am far too lazy to actually write, and so I am content to RP for now as a nation on the verge of that civil war, infighting, maneuvering, and general fun-times included. There are presently eleven independent intelligence organizations operated by one government or another or some branch or another. What fun would it be if there wasn't some conflict.

Also, don't blame me for the short description early on, I did tell you to read my factbook. I guess nobody took me up on it. Search in NSwiki I said... Oh well. =p

Hey, I don't got a NSWiki, I don't see why you do. At least my Factbook has useful and interesting stuff besides the military BS on it. I kid. Where IS your factbook, anyway?

And I'll betcha YOU wouldn't wanna be some zombie. You should know a country's pathetic when they actually have to fabricate some diversity.

Look at New Nicksyllvania. It's all bad teeth and biscuits and fox hunting and rednecks. Sure, they're rich, but they SUCK.

And I also forgot inbreeding.

[Diol]

His factbook is on nswiki. I have been reminded of that time and again by the fact that it's got some annoying special affect on it that makes it unclosable and keeps popping up when i'm trying to post.

[The Rich Port]

His factbook is on nswiki. I have been reminded of that time and again by the fact that it's got some annoying special affect on it that makes it unclosable and keeps popping up when i'm trying to post.

OK, Pudu... I used to think that maybe I was judging you too fast. Maybe you don't fail. Maybe I can get over the fact that your country was cool despite all it's fails and shortcomings when it comes to awesomeness.

You're just making it really, really, really hard.