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by Val Niaren » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:41 pm

by Lonara » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:42 pm
The Floor Kippers wrote:Lonara wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Val Niaren wrote:Wait... So when money is donated to WASO, that money gets spent to free slaves... And the slaves then have a choice between returning to the country they were enslaved in as free citizens or becoming citizens of the country that donated the money. Is this accurate?The Floor Kippers wrote:Or stay in the country of origin of the people who saved them.
Not totally
I send out delegates to buy slaves to free, They can either return Home, or become free citizens in the UK-FK.
If you like, but with added freedom
The main problem with this idea is that you feed the slave economy.
That isn't the only way, There is The Liberation Option

by The Black Plains » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:42 pm

by Lonara » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:42 pm
Val Niaren wrote:Ah, so by donating to this organization, one is giving your nation money with which is says it will buy slaves despite a lack of transaction evidence with slave selling nations. So it's not so much that you're buying slaves and more that you're exploiting the suffering of millions to commit fraud.

by Israslovakahzerbajan » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:42 pm
The Floor Kippers wrote:
That isn't the only way, There is The Liberation Option
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Oh, I bet it counts alright...otaku gets anyone a x50 multiplier on their hell points.

by The Floor Kippers » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:44 pm
Lonara wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Lonara wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Val Niaren wrote:Wait... So when money is donated to WASO, that money gets spent to free slaves... And the slaves then have a choice between returning to the country they were enslaved in as free citizens or becoming citizens of the country that donated the money. Is this accurate?The Floor Kippers wrote:Or stay in the country of origin of the people who saved them.
Not totally
I send out delegates to buy slaves to free, They can either return Home, or become free citizens in the UK-FK.
If you like, but with added freedom
The main problem with this idea is that you feed the slave economy.
That isn't the only way, There is The Liberation Option
Yeah, if you like war.

by Lonara » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:45 pm
The Floor Kippers wrote:Lonara wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Lonara wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Val Niaren wrote:Wait... So when money is donated to WASO, that money gets spent to free slaves... And the slaves then have a choice between returning to the country they were enslaved in as free citizens or becoming citizens of the country that donated the money. Is this accurate?The Floor Kippers wrote:Or stay in the country of origin of the people who saved them.
Not totally
I send out delegates to buy slaves to free, They can either return Home, or become free citizens in the UK-FK.
If you like, but with added freedom
The main problem with this idea is that you feed the slave economy.
That isn't the only way, There is The Liberation Option
Yeah, if you like war.
Incorrect, If a slaving ship enters Floor Kippers waters, any actions taken against said ship is covered By the WA.

by Val Niaren » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:48 pm
The Khal'killian family of Val Niaren makes money through mercenary work and slaving. Specifically, hiring themselves out to take down those they are morally opposed to, then selling the prisoners into slavery. So, if there were any rapists, baby eaters, or Scientoligists in Kipper waters that had a price on their head, it wouldn't be surprising if slaving vessels came after them.Lonara wrote:Who'd be dumb enough to?

by Des-Bal » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:49 pm
The Black Plains wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Val Niaren wrote:Wait... So when money is donated to WASO, that money gets spent to free slaves... And the slaves then have a choice between returning to the country they were enslaved in as free citizens or becoming citizens of the country that donated the money. Is this accurate?The Floor Kippers wrote:Or stay in the country of origin of the people who saved them.
Not totally
I send out delegates to buy slaves to free, They can either return Home, or become free citizens in the UK-FK.
If you like, but with added freedom
You give them exactly two options right? Those are: Return to slavery (possibly execution) OR... they have to pay you taxes. So you're buying slaves.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

by The Floor Kippers » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:51 pm
Des-Bal wrote:The Black Plains wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Val Niaren wrote:Wait... So when money is donated to WASO, that money gets spent to free slaves... And the slaves then have a choice between returning to the country they were enslaved in as free citizens or becoming citizens of the country that donated the money. Is this accurate?The Floor Kippers wrote:Or stay in the country of origin of the people who saved them.
Not totally
I send out delegates to buy slaves to free, They can either return Home, or become free citizens in the UK-FK.
If you like, but with added freedom
You give them exactly two options right? Those are: Return to slavery (possibly execution) OR... they have to pay you taxes. So you're buying slaves.
Well thats not true. In some instances they trade WMD for slaves as opposed to directly buying them and in other instances they experiment on the slaves or use them for sex.

by The Black Plains » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:53 pm
The Black Plains wrote:Hell, they're no better than the average mugger taking money at gunpoint! You will be told that you are being rescued from slavery, taken from your plantation or what have you, and then the catch is that you either go back to slavery (and possibly torture and execution) or you are forced to remain in the country that "saved" you and pay them taxes at the point of a gun. You're turning their lives around three hundred sixty degrees!

by Des-Bal » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:54 pm
The Floor Kippers wrote:Good Evening Des-Bal
Nice to see you struggling with the stick again
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

by The Floor Kippers » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:55 pm
The Black Plains wrote:The Black Plains wrote:Hell, they're no better than the average mugger taking money at gunpoint! You will be told that you are being rescued from slavery, taken from your plantation or what have you, and then the catch is that you either go back to slavery (and possibly torture and execution) or you are forced to remain in the country that "saved" you and pay them taxes at the point of a gun. You're turning their lives around three hundred sixty degrees!
^address this^ I command it. What if they don't want to pay you taxes OR return to the people who beat them daily? You'll try to stop them by arresting them right? And throwing them in jail? Maybe even sending them to a government labor camp? Where they'll be forced to work for you for no pay? That or if they resist arrest you'll kill them, right? So what are you doing that is humanitarian and what are you doing that purveys freedom?

by The Northern Baltic » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:57 pm

by Val Niaren » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:58 pm

by The Floor Kippers » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:58 pm
The Northern Baltic wrote:The United Socialist States of the Northern Baltic should very much like to join this organization in hopes of promoting freedom for all!
Val Niaren wrote:So, nobody is concerned that Floor Kippers are exploiting negative views of slavery to commit fraud? Well, if Des-Bali testimony is accurate, a combination of fraud and rape.

by Des-Bal » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:59 pm
The Floor Kippers wrote:The Black Plains wrote:The Black Plains wrote:Hell, they're no better than the average mugger taking money at gunpoint! You will be told that you are being rescued from slavery, taken from your plantation or what have you, and then the catch is that you either go back to slavery (and possibly torture and execution) or you are forced to remain in the country that "saved" you and pay them taxes at the point of a gun. You're turning their lives around three hundred sixty degrees!
^address this^ I command it. What if they don't want to pay you taxes OR return to the people who beat them daily? You'll try to stop them by arresting them right? And throwing them in jail? Maybe even sending them to a government labor camp? Where they'll be forced to work for you for no pay? That or if they resist arrest you'll kill them, right? So what are you doing that is humanitarian and what are you doing that purveys freedom?
As I said earlier in the UK-FK There is the Free Slave Tax exemption Act, under which any freed slaves do not have to pay taxes until they have 10,000S$
As for you Des-Bal, Which Building?
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

by The Horned Rat » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:00 pm
The Floor Kippers wrote:The Horned Rat wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Big list/snip
I feel hurt that I have not been included in this list, I've contributed nearly five-thousand skins taken from very lively slaves! It costs money to buy these weekly, pay specialists to get the hides and treat them, then ship them out.
<_<....>_>
*Sigh*
Le Shay wrote:“Good have them interrogated. Don’t be genital on them either.”

by Des-Bal » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:01 pm
Val Niaren wrote:So, nobody is concerned that Floor Kippers are exploiting negative views of slavery to commit fraud? Well, if Des-Bali testimony is accurate, a combination of fraud and rape.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

by Lonara » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:02 pm

by Des-Bal » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:03 pm
The Floor Kippers wrote:The Northern Baltic wrote:The United Socialist States of the Northern Baltic should very much like to join this organization in hopes of promoting freedom for all!
I Bid You WelcomeVal Niaren wrote:So, nobody is concerned that Floor Kippers are exploiting negative views of slavery to commit fraud? Well, if Des-Bali testimony is accurate, a combination of fraud and rape.
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Des-Bal.....Statements....Accurate!
You slavers crack Me Up!
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

by The Floor Kippers » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:04 pm
Des-Bal wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:The Black Plains wrote:The Black Plains wrote:Hell, they're no better than the average mugger taking money at gunpoint! You will be told that you are being rescued from slavery, taken from your plantation or what have you, and then the catch is that you either go back to slavery (and possibly torture and execution) or you are forced to remain in the country that "saved" you and pay them taxes at the point of a gun. You're turning their lives around three hundred sixty degrees!
^address this^ I command it. What if they don't want to pay you taxes OR return to the people who beat them daily? You'll try to stop them by arresting them right? And throwing them in jail? Maybe even sending them to a government labor camp? Where they'll be forced to work for you for no pay? That or if they resist arrest you'll kill them, right? So what are you doing that is humanitarian and what are you doing that purveys freedom?
As I said earlier in the UK-FK There is the Free Slave Tax exemption Act, under which any freed slaves do not have to pay taxes until they have 10,000S$
As for you Des-Bal, Which Building?
Oh yess they can make almost enough money to survive and then you rob them blind.
In Des-Bal slaves don't pay taxes and often live on large estates providing in return only menial labor and a nominal presence.
The hall of Unorthodox Sciences was engaged by a Des-Bali helicopter in response to what operative Codename:Little Man has referred to only as "Mecha Godzilla"
The Horned Rat wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:The Horned Rat wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Big list/snip
I feel hurt that I have not been included in this list, I've contributed nearly five-thousand skins taken from very lively slaves! It costs money to buy these weekly, pay specialists to get the hides and treat them, then ship them out.
<_<....>_>
*Sigh*
A footnote at least? Or perhaps a plaque commemerating the everlasting glories of the Council or Thirteen?
Also, what would occur if I put a shipping lane through your territorial waters with vessels that contained slaves. Would you attack, board and free them?
Lonara wrote:Hey, Des-Bal.
On behalf of the glorious Holy Lonaran Empire, I would like to make a purchase.
Five hundred Inu-type sub humans, and five hundred Neko-type subhumans.
We're going to use them in advanced weapons testing. We can arrange to have them picked up and shipped in cargo containers aboard our IL-76's if you'd like. What'll the cost be?

by The Floor Kippers » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:05 pm
Des-Bal wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:The Northern Baltic wrote:The United Socialist States of the Northern Baltic should very much like to join this organization in hopes of promoting freedom for all!
I Bid You WelcomeVal Niaren wrote:So, nobody is concerned that Floor Kippers are exploiting negative views of slavery to commit fraud? Well, if Des-Bali testimony is accurate, a combination of fraud and rape.
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Des-Bal.....Statements....Accurate!
You slavers crack Me Up!
Are you denying that your founder sold IASEN nations nuclear weapons? Are you denying that Lamington purchased the "freedom" of a slave while debating against slavery and a short time later had it delivered to the emporer as a bride? That Rich Port purchased a very large order at a discount (Possibly made up for in anthrax) to conduct experiments upon?

by Des-Bal » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:08 pm
Lonara wrote:Hey, Des-Bal.
On behalf of the glorious Holy Lonaran Empire, I would like to make a purchase.
Five hundred Inu-type sub humans, and five hundred Neko-type subhumans.
We're going to use them in advanced weapons testing. We can arrange to have them picked up and shipped in cargo containers aboard our IL-76's if you'd like. What'll the cost be?
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

by Des-Bal » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:10 pm
The Floor Kippers wrote:Des-Bal wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:The Black Plains wrote:The Black Plains wrote:Hell, they're no better than the average mugger taking money at gunpoint! You will be told that you are being rescued from slavery, taken from your plantation or what have you, and then the catch is that you either go back to slavery (and possibly torture and execution) or you are forced to remain in the country that "saved" you and pay them taxes at the point of a gun. You're turning their lives around three hundred sixty degrees!
^address this^ I command it. What if they don't want to pay you taxes OR return to the people who beat them daily? You'll try to stop them by arresting them right? And throwing them in jail? Maybe even sending them to a government labor camp? Where they'll be forced to work for you for no pay? That or if they resist arrest you'll kill them, right? So what are you doing that is humanitarian and what are you doing that purveys freedom?
As I said earlier in the UK-FK There is the Free Slave Tax exemption Act, under which any freed slaves do not have to pay taxes until they have 10,000S$
As for you Des-Bal, Which Building?
Oh yess they can make almost enough money to survive and then you rob them blind.
In Des-Bal slaves don't pay taxes and often live on large estates providing in return only menial labor and a nominal presence.
The hall of Unorthodox Sciences was engaged by a Des-Bali helicopter in response to what operative Codename:Little Man has referred to only as "Mecha Godzilla"
I apologies I did not explain the act Properly, After they reach 10,000S$, the tax they pay is sufficiently lower than that of the average citizen.The Horned Rat wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:The Horned Rat wrote:The Floor Kippers wrote:Big list/snip
I feel hurt that I have not been included in this list, I've contributed nearly five-thousand skins taken from very lively slaves! It costs money to buy these weekly, pay specialists to get the hides and treat them, then ship them out.
<_<....>_>
*Sigh*
A footnote at least? Or perhaps a plaque commemerating the everlasting glories of the Council or Thirteen?
Also, what would occur if I put a shipping lane through your territorial waters with vessels that contained slaves. Would you attack, board and free them?
The Coast Guard would give you sufficient warning, Then Then does some things that are confidentialLonara wrote:Hey, Des-Bal.
On behalf of the glorious Holy Lonaran Empire, I would like to make a purchase.
Five hundred Inu-type sub humans, and five hundred Neko-type subhumans.
We're going to use them in advanced weapons testing. We can arrange to have them picked up and shipped in cargo containers aboard our IL-76's if you'd like. What'll the cost be?
Please conduct your Business elsewhere, or not at all.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
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