Uprising In Iraq OOC Thread (Closed)

[Hatay]

Can I put my MMB post up?

[Al Ittihad Al Islamiya]

Can I put my MMB post up?

Go ahead

[Hatay]

Can I put my MMB post up?

Go ahead

Great thanks.

[Lonograd]

Okay guys, I think it's time to get this RP back up and running.

[New Aeyariss]

Okay guys, I think it's time to get this RP back up and running.

I am out of RPing until 24th and don't count on my activity next week.

[Lonograd]

Okay guys, I think it's time to get this RP back up and running.

I am out of RPing until 24th and don't count on my activity next week.

Alright, I'm mainly waiting on Zat and Bashriyya.

[Hatay]

I'm sorry to say that I will have difficulty posting for most of July.

[Lonograd]

I think I may introduce a no-fly zone over Lonograd and shoot down any SACTO or Hatayan Aircraft.

[Hatay]

I think I may introduce a no-fly zone over Lonograd and shoot down any SACTO or Hatayan Aircraft.

Then you may face direct force against Lonograd.

[Lonograd]

I think I may introduce a no-fly zone over Lonograd and shoot down any SACTO or Hatayan Aircraft.

Then you may face direct force against Lonograd.

How would Hatay retaliate exactly?

[Hatay]

Then you may face direct force against Lonograd.

How would Hatay retaliate exactly?

Airstrikes against Lonograd, and intensified airstrikes against ALF.

[Inyourfaceistan]

I think I may introduce a no-fly zone over Lonograd and shoot down any SACTO or Hatayan Aircraft.

This will go complementary with the SACTO no-fly zone!

[Lonograd]

How would Hatay retaliate exactly?

Airstrikes against Lonograd, and intensified airstrikes against ALF.

What exactly would they target?

[New Aeyariss]

I think I may introduce a no-fly zone over Lonograd and shoot down any SACTO or Hatayan Aircraft.

The question is why are you putting a no fly zone over Lonograd when SACTO nations would avoid it's airpsace anyway. Air corridors going through Turkey or Jordan are fully enough. SACTO aircraft are keeping away in any case.

Over Iraq though SACTO is about to announce it's own no fly zone.

[Hatay]

I think I may introduce a no-fly zone over Lonograd and shoot down any SACTO or Hatayan Aircraft.

The question is why are you putting a no fly zone over Lonograd when SACTO nations would avoid it's airpsace anyway. Air corridors going through Turkey or Jordan are fully enough. SACTO aircraft are keeping away in any case.

Over Iraq though SACTO is about to announce it's own no fly zone.

I will fly anyway

[New Aeyariss]

I will fly anyway

You sure ? Jordanian F-16s were not just buzzing Hatayan aircraft for fun...

But after what Kojiro is about to do, you may actually be allowed to do it .

[Hatay]

Hatay has no intention of going to war with Lonograd.

[New Aeyariss]

Hatay has no intention of going to war with Lonograd.

Does it not? A "pro-Lonogradi militia" just shelled Hatayan border outpost likely causing some causalities. At least a part of society will demand some kind of retaliation.

From there it would be extremely easy to lead you two into escalation .

[Hatay]

Hatay has no intention of going to war with Lonograd.

Does it not? A "pro-Lonogradi militia" just shelled Hatayan border outpost likely causing some causalities. At least a part of society will demand some kind of retaliation.

From there it would be extremely easy to lead you two into escalation .

Bashriyyan proxies already did this, we did not declare war there. I have no intention of going to war.

[New Aeyariss]

Bashriyyan proxies already did this, we did not declare war there. I have no intention of going to war.

Lack of any response on such an issue is going to mean large sale loss of prestige for the presidential administration and Hatay internationally, just to warn you. "War" isn't really what I had mind mind, but rather a retaliatory action against ALF in Iraq.

Which could be very easily played into Nifonese hands...

[Lonograd]

Bashriyyan proxies already did this, we did not declare war there. I have no intention of going to war.

Lack of any response on such an issue is going to mean large sale loss of prestige for the presidential administration and Hatay internationally, just to warn you. "War" isn't really what I had mind mind, but rather a retaliatory action against ALF in Iraq.

Which could be very easily played into Nifonese hands...

Plus going to war with Hatay would be far easier then going to war with SACTO.

[New Aeyariss]

Plus going to war with Hatay would be far easier then going to war with SACTO.

+ Kojiro has completely different outlook on the foreign policy. He is there to liquidate major threat to Nifonese allies, interests in the region, contain spread of socialism and secure the oil wells (that is the deal between IAF - oil wells in exchange for building infrastructure and providing education to local population, Nifonese concerns are obliged to hire locals even on high positions). You should soon see Nifonese re-open the university of Mosul, inviting scholars from Riysa, Bashriyya, etc. etc. to educate the future of Iraq.

For Kojiro "humanitarian interventions" or "international laws" have little meaning, if anything they are just tools to use, because every expenditure requires a cover and as much as Kojiro would most likely act in case of a major manslaughter, he does not feel himself a world policeman and actually detests that very idea, citing his opposition to UN/WA and attempt to create Allied Co-Prosperity Sphere as an alternative monetary system.

There was a reason why there was no retaliation for the Lonogradi airstrikes - Kojiro realizes that if he "grounds" Lonogradi air force, that is an act of war. But at the same time Lonograd is getting more and more aggressive and he wants to put it in it's place...

And at the same time, IAF is planing to exploit focus on battle of Ramandi to begin infiltrating Lonograd with terror cells that would activate when the planned sunni uprising follows the color revolution SACTO is planing .

[Inyourfaceistan]

For Kojiro "humanitarian interventions" or "international laws" have little meaning, if anything they are just tools to use

Much of SACTO in general has this outlook...

It should be no surprise that Calderone actually detests international law and views himself a modern pirate...

[Lonograd]

Plus going to war with Hatay would be far easier then going to war with SACTO.

+ Kojiro has completely different outlook on the foreign policy. He is there to liquidate major threat to Nifonese allies, interests in the region, contain spread of socialism and secure the oil wells (that is the deal between IAF - oil wells in exchange for building infrastructure and providing education to local population, Nifonese concerns are obliged to hire locals even on high positions). You should soon see Nifonese re-open the university of Mosul, inviting scholars from Riysa, Bashriyya, etc. etc. to educate the future of Iraq.

For Kojiro "humanitarian interventions" or "international laws" have little meaning, if anything they are just tools to use, because every expenditure requires a cover and as much as Kojiro would most likely act in case of a major manslaughter, he does not feel himself a world policeman and actually detests that very idea, citing his opposition to UN/WA and attempt to create Allied Co-Prosperity Sphere as an alternative monetary system.

There was a reason why there was no retaliation for the Lonogradi airstrikes - Kojiro realizes that if he "grounds" Lonogradi air force, that is an act of war. But at the same time Lonograd is getting more and more aggressive and he wants to put it in it's place...

And at the same time, IAF is planing to exploit focus on battle of Ramandi to begin infiltrating Lonograd with terror cells that would activate when the planned sunni uprising follows the color revolution SACTO is planing .

Well the ALF is acutally planning to seek revenge on Hatay for the airstrikes on Basra, possibly trying to hack the Hatayan government and asking Lonograd to escalate tension by killing Hatayan any captured fighter pilots if their Jets fly over Lonogradian Airspace. Also expect Anti SACTO and Anti Hatay rallies and protest throughout southern Iraq.

Lonograd's intentions in Iraq is to destroy all Jihadist groups, expulsion of SACTO forces and their allies from the country, stop a sectarian war between Sunni and Shia, exterminate Kurdish nationalist groups, building of Iraqi infrastructure and nationalisation of Oil wells, creating a secure line with Iran, and most importantly annexing Iraq in a national referendum.

And Bashir Aladeen knows that SACTO is trying to encircle Lonograd for an invasion, and that's one of the reasons he sent the ALF into Iraq in the first place, if the Arab Liberation Front wins and joins Lonograd it will cause two things, one will be that it will put Aladeen's mind to rest and take possible military action against Lebanon, Israel or Jordan. It will make cause huge popularity for Bashir and the Ba'ath Party.

However Aladeen knows that the Nifonese won't give Iraq up so easily, and the most important thing to him is trying to keep his regime in power, so he is willing to work with SACTO and even have a meeting with Kojiro to discuss how Iraq could be divided between them and further De-escalation from a possible Lonograd-SACTO war.

I also have a few questions,

1. Is the IAF going to attack AIAI?

2. Will Jordan do military strikes against my forces near the border?

3. @Hatay, what would you do if I shot down one of your Aircraft?

[Hatay]

We'd bomb Basra again.


Also, Hatay could use (hypothetically) the attack on the border as an excuse to send troops across the border.