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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:06 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
The Traansval wrote:Maybe. I've found that Melissa has grown very, very far from her homeland. I might do something.

kay, shes still practices shooting and stuff, but shes also become a philanthropist

Also, wouldn't there be some upheaval with Melissa being crowned Queen. I know she's quite well liked, but she's still Boer, and it doesn't help that you unrightfully demand that Boer Agents attacked the hospital of King Oswyn. There's going to be people who look and think that Oswyn was killed so that the Boers could control Nikolai through Melissa.

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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:12 pm

You know, Arengin, it's not too late to break ties with Warg. Dissolve the silly GDU and we'll form a newer, better Alliance.

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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:13 pm

Also, what happened to Halium

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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:16 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:kay, shes still practices shooting and stuff, but shes also become a philanthropist

Also, wouldn't there be some upheaval with Melissa being crowned Queen. I know she's quite well liked, but she's still Boer, and it doesn't help that you unrightfully demand that Boer Agents attacked the hospital of King Oswyn. There's going to be people who look and think that Oswyn was killed so that the Boers could control Nikolai through Melissa.

Yeah, well Melissa had become well known for her opposition agaisnt Kendi and Roosevelt as well, though she still loves the Boer people. And she has made multiple charities for the poor and hungry and people see her as benevolent and kind.


HOWEVER given recent events people could be suspicious of her being crowned queen but there have been multiple queens not from Arengin. The king though, he ALWAYS has to be Arenginian born, its in Arengin's constitution. So maybe you can control her and have her having some conflict with the people of the charity programs in Arengin as well as not being so welcomed to the Military hospitals she visits.


But she will be Crowned Queen/Tsarina
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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:17 pm

The Traansval wrote:You know, Arengin, it's not too late to break ties with Warg. Dissolve the silly GDU and we'll form a newer, better Alliance.

Tempting, but I don't know. After you pulling out from the Entente, that hurt me. And I don't see myself doing the same to my allies. Plus Warg has changed a lot, maybe you could join our alliance.
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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:18 pm

The Traansval wrote:Also, what happened to Halium

idk... I guess i'll have to put his country under Arenginian administration. Maybe eventually annex it.
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:24 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
The Traansval wrote:Also, wouldn't there be some upheaval with Melissa being crowned Queen. I know she's quite well liked, but she's still Boer, and it doesn't help that you unrightfully demand that Boer Agents attacked the hospital of King Oswyn. There's going to be people who look and think that Oswyn was killed so that the Boers could control Nikolai through Melissa.

Yeah, well Melissa had become well known for her opposition agaisnt Kendi and Roosevelt as well, though she still loves the Boer people. And she has made multiple charities for the poor and hungry and people see her as benevolent and kind.


HOWEVER given recent events people could be suspicious of her being crowned queen but there have been multiple queens not from Arengin. The king though, he ALWAYS has to be Arenginian born, its in Arengin's constitution. So maybe you can control her and have her having some conflict with the people of the charity programs in Arengin as well as not being so welcomed to the Military hospitals she visits.


But she will be Crowned Queen/Tsarina



Why would she oppose Van Rosevelt? His first acts as Verkozen Officiele was to cripple the power of his own office, and give the power he took away from himself to the Kongress, which is elected by the people. He's being hailed as the great bringer of Democracy, and is quite level headed, although he shares any (And any includes Melissias) hatred of Fascists, although he is more lenient towards Communists and Socialists, as shown by him authorizing the sale of Boer Surplus to the NCSU.

She'd be quite fine with Van Rosevelt.

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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:26 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
The Traansval wrote:You know, Arengin, it's not too late to break ties with Warg. Dissolve the silly GDU and we'll form a newer, better Alliance.

Tempting, but I don't know. After you pulling out from the Entente, that hurt me. And I don't see myself doing the same to my allies. Plus Warg has changed a lot, maybe you could join our alliance.

A Fascist never changes. I might have considered it before, but when you allied Wargloria all chances of Alliance ended.

Remember, the Boers are supposed to preach from the Soapbox, can't even be associated with Fascists.

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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:27 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
The Traansval wrote:Also, wouldn't there be some upheaval with Melissa being crowned Queen. I know she's quite well liked, but she's still Boer, and it doesn't help that you unrightfully demand that Boer Agents attacked the hospital of King Oswyn. There's going to be people who look and think that Oswyn was killed so that the Boers could control Nikolai through Melissa.

Yeah, well Melissa had become well known for her opposition agaisnt Kendi and Roosevelt as well, though she still loves the Boer people. And she has made multiple charities for the poor and hungry and people see her as benevolent and kind.


HOWEVER given recent events people could be suspicious of her being crowned queen but there have been multiple queens not from Arengin. The king though, he ALWAYS has to be Arenginian born, its in Arengin's constitution. So maybe you can control her and have her having some conflict with the people of the charity programs in Arengin as well as not being so welcomed to the Military hospitals she visits.


But she will be Crowned Queen/Tsarina


I'm mostly going to have her lobby Nikolai to distance Arengin from Wargloria.

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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:31 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:Yeah, well Melissa had become well known for her opposition agaisnt Kendi and Roosevelt as well, though she still loves the Boer people. And she has made multiple charities for the poor and hungry and people see her as benevolent and kind.


HOWEVER given recent events people could be suspicious of her being crowned queen but there have been multiple queens not from Arengin. The king though, he ALWAYS has to be Arenginian born, its in Arengin's constitution. So maybe you can control her and have her having some conflict with the people of the charity programs in Arengin as well as not being so welcomed to the Military hospitals she visits.


But she will be Crowned Queen/Tsarina



Why would she oppose Van Rosevelt? His first acts as Verkozen Officiele was to cripple the power of his own office, and give the power he took away from himself to the Kongress, which is elected by the people. He's being hailed as the great bringer of Democracy, and is quite level headed, although he shares any (And any includes Melissias) hatred of Fascists, although he is more lenient towards Communists and Socialists, as shown by him authorizing the sale of Boer Surplus to the NCSU.

She'd be quite fine with Van Rosevelt.

Kay

The Traansval wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:Yeah, well Melissa had become well known for her opposition agaisnt Kendi and Roosevelt as well, though she still loves the Boer people. And she has made multiple charities for the poor and hungry and people see her as benevolent and kind.


HOWEVER given recent events people could be suspicious of her being crowned queen but there have been multiple queens not from Arengin. The king though, he ALWAYS has to be Arenginian born, its in Arengin's constitution. So maybe you can control her and have her having some conflict with the people of the charity programs in Arengin as well as not being so welcomed to the Military hospitals she visits.


But she will be Crowned Queen/Tsarina


I'm mostly going to have her lobby Nikolai to distance Arengin from Wargloria.


It be interesting to see what happens
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:41 pm

While NCSU, Arengin, and Skarten negotiate peace, Manticore seeks to give herself a better position at sea by destroying the NCSU Svacic Fleet.
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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:43 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:While NCSU, Arengin, and Skarten negotiate peace, Manticore seeks to give herself a better position at sea by destroying the NCSU Svacic Fleet.

Thanks. I don't even think Negotiations will lead anywhere. Rusklands are too arrogant
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:46 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:While NCSU, Arengin, and Skarten negotiate peace, Manticore seeks to give herself a better position at sea by destroying the NCSU Svacic Fleet.

You think the death of the NCSU fleet is really something that would give you better power at sea?

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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:51 pm

The Traansval wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:While NCSU, Arengin, and Skarten negotiate peace, Manticore seeks to give herself a better position at sea by destroying the NCSU Svacic Fleet.

You think the death of the NCSU fleet is really something that would give you better power at sea?

In case you don't know the NCSU has attempted invading me by the Ecksal coast several times. Each time has been repelled but i don't have any naval forces there so I'll have to force the NCSU to hand over the strait, since they controlled it for a long time.
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:54 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
The Traansval wrote:You think the death of the NCSU fleet is really something that would give you better power at sea?

In case you don't know the NCSU has attempted invading me by the Ecksal coast several times. Each time has been repelled but i don't have any naval forces there so I'll have to force the NCSU to hand over the strait, since they controlled it for a long time.

I know, its just that the NCSU Fleet is fucking weak, so i hardly see how its death would be a great victory.

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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:55 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:In case you don't know the NCSU has attempted invading me by the Ecksal coast several times. Each time has been repelled but i don't have any naval forces there so I'll have to force the NCSU to hand over the strait, since they controlled it for a long time.

I know, its just that the NCSU Fleet is fucking weak, so i hardly see how its death would be a great victory.

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you're right...
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:28 pm

When Arengin only has pictures of Melissa in a dress

REEEEEEEEEEE

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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:34 pm

The Traansval wrote:When Arengin only has pictures of Melissa in a dress

REEEEEEEEEEE

BRuhhhhh its a coronation in early 20th century. If you wanna make Melissa a feminist or whatever im all for it, but come on! xD
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:37 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
The Traansval wrote:When Arengin only has pictures of Melissa in a dress

REEEEEEEEEEE

BRuhhhhh its a coronation in early 20th century. If you wanna make Melissa a feminist or whatever im all for it, but come on! xD

She's not a Feminist, she's a Boer, and a highly decorated Officer.

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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:39 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:BRuhhhhh its a coronation in early 20th century. If you wanna make Melissa a feminist or whatever im all for it, but come on! xD

She's not a Feminist, she's a Boer, and a highly decorated Officer.

i'll post tomorrow... im exhausted
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:29 pm

The Traansval wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:While NCSU, Arengin, and Skarten negotiate peace, Manticore seeks to give herself a better position at sea by destroying the NCSU Svacic Fleet.

You think the death of the NCSU fleet is really something that would give you better power at sea?

You are a little man with little dreams. While the NCSU fleet may be weak in comparison to mine, ton for ton they are still a powerful force, far surpassing the Arengin and Skarten navies, and, should they survive, may grow stronger. Skarten has a land border with me and both Arengin and Skarten have islands or fleet bases with good access to my own territory. I might also have a land border with Arengin, too, after his occupation of Morvern (Jutland). Ergo, in order to secure the borders of Skarten and Arengin, by extension securing MY borders, I need to eliminate the NCSU fleet. With that fleet out of the way and with no Skarten or Arengin fleet forces in the area, I can secure the Svacic Strait, keeping NCSUs entire naval strength in Europa, where it is virtually powerless.
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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:34 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
The Traansval wrote:You think the death of the NCSU fleet is really something that would give you better power at sea?

You are a little man with little dreams. While the NCSU fleet may be weak in comparison to mine, ton for ton they are still a powerful force, far surpassing the Arengin and Skarten navies, and, should they survive, may grow stronger. Skarten has a land border with me and both Arengin and Skarten have islands or fleet bases with good access to my own territory. I might also have a land border with Arengin, too, after his occupation of Morvern (Jutland). Ergo, in order to secure the borders of Skarten and Arengin, by extension securing MY borders, I need to eliminate the NCSU fleet. With that fleet out of the way and with no Skarten or Arengin fleet forces in the area, I can secure the Svacic Strait, keeping NCSUs entire naval strength in Europa, where it is virtually powerless.

Manticore im kinda getting tired of you belittling my navy.
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:38 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:You are a little man with little dreams. While the NCSU fleet may be weak in comparison to mine, ton for ton they are still a powerful force, far surpassing the Arengin and Skarten navies, and, should they survive, may grow stronger. Skarten has a land border with me and both Arengin and Skarten have islands or fleet bases with good access to my own territory. I might also have a land border with Arengin, too, after his occupation of Morvern (Jutland). Ergo, in order to secure the borders of Skarten and Arengin, by extension securing MY borders, I need to eliminate the NCSU fleet. With that fleet out of the way and with no Skarten or Arengin fleet forces in the area, I can secure the Svacic Strait, keeping NCSUs entire naval strength in Europa, where it is virtually powerless.

Manticore im kinda getting tired of you belittling my navy.


Arengin, your strengths lie in Hordes of Troops, not naval power...

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Postby Norcourt » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:39 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:BRuhhhhh its a coronation in early 20th century. If you wanna make Melissa a feminist or whatever im all for it, but come on! xD

She's not a Feminist, she's a Boer, and a highly decorated Officer.


Boers descended from the Dutch, who in which were highly religious, and archaic in style. Of course they would wear a dress\skirt. But anyway, you do you man.
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Postby Arengin Union » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:40 pm

The Traansval wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:Manticore im kinda getting tired of you belittling my navy.


Arengin, your strengths lie in Hordes of Troops, not naval power...

My naval forces are very on par with Manticore's Traans. But whatever, i don't wanna get into a dick measuring contest
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