1870-1920 Era War 2: The End Times (OOC) [NO MORE SIGNUPS]

[Arengin Union]

After this war I think i'll adopt the American uniform and weaponry of our times.

[The Manticoran Empire]

After this war I think i'll adopt the American uniform and weaponry of our times.

Interesting.

[Arengin Union]

After this war I think i'll adopt the American uniform and weaponry of our times.

Interesting.

The AK is a go though.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Interesting.

The AK is a go though.

I'll have the new TO ready in a week or so, when my computer is fixed.

[Arengin Union]

The AK is a go though.

I'll have the new TO ready in a week or so, when my computer is fixed.

And I'll have my little friendly NV6 ready shortly after

[Norcourt]

Where is the current main battleground of this so called world war?

[Arengin Union]

Where is the current main battleground of this so called world war?

Ruskland, Afrika, Sylbania, The South Afrikan sea, Nuwee Afrikaa too.

[Norcourt]

Where is the current main battleground of this so called world war?

Ruskland, Afrika, Sylbania, The South Afrikan sea, Nuwee Afrikaa too.

Thanks. I almost forgot where all of those are...

[The Manticoran Empire]

Where is the current main battleground of this so called world war?

Practically everywhere

[The Manticoran Empire]

I would love to know which magicians hat Skarten keeps pulling troops out of without suffering major economic issues. He started with barely 2,000,000 men and since then has lost hundreds of thousands in Tamir, at Sea, and against Rusk land. He has probably drafted about 3,000,000 men, rushed them to the front in less than a year, so we can expect that about half of themy are casualties. Barely 2 million soldiers to defend Skarten and he sends almost half of them to Afrikaa? Do you even Strategy? You have a population of barely 43 million, started the war with one of the SMALLEST military forces in the World, lost half of your army in a single campaign, have the other half stranded in Zeeland (you never mentioned what happened to theme so they are still in Wargloria's colony). On top of that, you appear to have drafted 3 or 4 MILLION men, trained and equipped the for war in LESS THAN A YEAR somehow kept theme supplied as they conquered half a CONTINENT (which I highly doubt could have been accomplished as easily as you claim), and you are, somehow, not facing shortages of ANYTHING?

[Skarten]

I would love to know which magicians hat Skarten keeps pulling troops out of without suffering major economic issues. He started with barely 2,000,000 men and since then has lost hundreds of thousands in Tamir, at Sea, and against Rusk land. He has probably drafted about 3,000,000 men, rushed them to the front in less than a year, so we can expect that about half of themy are casualties. Barely 2 million soldiers to defend Skarten and he sends almost half of them to Afrikaa? Do you even Strategy? You have a population of barely 43 million, started the war with one of the SMALLEST military forces in the World, lost half of your army in a single campaign, have the other half stranded in Zeeland (you never mentioned what happened to theme so they are still in Wargloria's colony). On top of that, you appear to have drafted 3 or 4 MILLION men, trained and equipped the for war in LESS THAN A YEAR somehow kept theme supplied as they conquered half a CONTINENT (which I highly doubt could have been accomplished as easily as you claim), and you are, somehow, not facing shortages of ANYTHING?

First, i did post about getting the soldiers to Skarten.
Second, my Population is about 110 Million. Skarten evolved alot in the last 50-60 Years, lots of new land...
Its 1912,So they had Enough training.
Skarten is highly Industrial and we use women in factories makes a huge time.

[The Manticoran Empire]

I would love to know which magicians hat Skarten keeps pulling troops out of without suffering major economic issues. He started with barely 2,000,000 men and since then has lost hundreds of thousands in Tamir, at Sea, and against Rusk land. He has probably drafted about 3,000,000 men, rushed them to the front in less than a year, so we can expect that about half of themy are casualties. Barely 2 million soldiers to defend Skarten and he sends almost half of them to Afrikaa? Do you even Strategy? You have a population of barely 43 million, started the war with one of the SMALLEST military forces in the World, lost half of your army in a single campaign, have the other half stranded in Zeeland (you never mentioned what happened to theme so they are still in Wargloria's colony). On top of that, you appear to have drafted 3 or 4 MILLION men, trained and equipped the for war in LESS THAN A YEAR somehow kept theme supplied as they conquered half a CONTINENT (which I highly doubt could have been accomplished as easily as you claim), and you are, somehow, not facing shortages of ANYTHING?

First, i did post about getting the soldiers to Skarten.
Second, my Population is about 110 Million. Skarten evolved alot in the last 50-60 Years, lots of new land...
Its 1912,So they had Enough training.
Skarten is highly Industrial and we use women in factories makes a huge time.

No I did the math. In the 40 years since 1870, your population cannot have exceeded 60 million. Tamir only has a population 70 million when you annexed your two territories and they were sparsely populated regions to begin with.
The War began in March 1911. You didn't start drafting for three months. Also, there is NO way to train 3 million men adequately in only one year. Not when your best recruitment month is 18-20,000 men.
That is irrelevant. Your strongest workers are your 18-30 year old men, who also happen to be your best soldiers. Since you lost virtually all of your colonial population in the first months of the war, you are drawing ONLY from your core population, which is only 43 million. If you doubt me, I can again prove it to you.
Industrialization by 1912 standards still severely limits how much you can produce. On top of that, you manufactured enough equipment to fully outfit 3 million men in 10 months? Even the modern US Army can't do that.

[Arengin Union]

Skarten, Mant has a point, your nation couldn't support such an army without facing financial problems. However, I think that if you keep your army at a 3 to 4 million men and keep them rougly on the front we need them at, Ruskland, Mant may no longer have an issue. We already have some Skartenean troops in the Boer front but most Skartenean troops should be concentrated on the Eastern Front with Ruskland.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Skarten, Mant has a point, your nation couldn't support such an army without facing financial problems. However, I think that if you keep your army at a 3 to 4 million men and keep them rougly on the front we need them at, Ruskland, Mant may no longer have an issue. We already have some Skartenean troops in the Boer front but most Skartenean troops should be concentrated on the Eastern Front with Ruskland.

My main issue is how RAPIDLY he did it. Going from barely 2 million to close to 6 million in 10 months. No. Even the 21st century USA can't do that. Regardless of your level of industrialization, such a massive increase in manpower over such a short period of time would be impossible. You could accomplish part of it but it would wreck your economy. You would face severe shortages of food, raw materials, and other necessities.

[The Manticoran Empire]

I haven't begun conscription myself yet, but I know it would require months to train them, equip them, and then deploy them. Drafting millions of soldiers is a logistical nightmare and is made even worse by the fact that you are at war with psychotic cult members. Add to that your growing casualty lists and your on a dangerous road. In fact, I suspect that the former Rusk land territories will begin rebelling against you as they see your power wane.

[Arengin Union]

Skarten, Mant has a point, your nation couldn't support such an army without facing financial problems. However, I think that if you keep your army at a 3 to 4 million men and keep them rougly on the front we need them at, Ruskland, Mant may no longer have an issue. We already have some Skartenean troops in the Boer front but most Skartenean troops should be concentrated on the Eastern Front with Ruskland.

My main issue is how RAPIDLY he did it. Going from barely 2 million to close to 6 million in 10 months. No. Even the 21st century USA can't do that. Regardless of your level of industrialization, such a massive increase in manpower over such a short period of time would be impossible. You could accomplish part of it but it would wreck your economy. You would face severe shortages of food, raw materials, and other necessities.

I mean. even for me it took a good few months before all forces were ready for combat. I have near 12 million men deployed at the moment all around my nation, some armies still training and acting as reserves. I know what you're gonna say, yes it was a draft and military service is mandatory on Arengin, and Yes not all forces are ready at the moment. I have at least 6 million men fighting at the moment.

Skar you think maybe you could change the number of soldiers??? Or IDK really... just play nice guys...

[The Manticoran Empire]

My main issue is how RAPIDLY he did it. Going from barely 2 million to close to 6 million in 10 months. No. Even the 21st century USA can't do that. Regardless of your level of industrialization, such a massive increase in manpower over such a short period of time would be impossible. You could accomplish part of it but it would wreck your economy. You would face severe shortages of food, raw materials, and other necessities.

I mean. even for me it took a good few months before all forces were ready for combat. I have near 12 million men deployed at the moment all around my nation, some armies still training and acting as reserves. I know what you're gonna say, yes it was a draft and military service is mandatory on Arengin, and Yes not all forces are ready at the moment. I have at least 6 million men fighting at the moment.

Skar you think maybe you could change the number of soldiers??? Or IDK really... just play nice guys...

You had a larger starting force and haven't added anyone beyond your Reserves presently, with a few exceptions.

[Arengin Union]

I mean. even for me it took a good few months before all forces were ready for combat. I have near 12 million men deployed at the moment all around my nation, some armies still training and acting as reserves. I know what you're gonna say, yes it was a draft and military service is mandatory on Arengin, and Yes not all forces are ready at the moment. I have at least 6 million men fighting at the moment.

Skar you think maybe you could change the number of soldiers??? Or IDK really... just play nice guys...

You had a larger starting force and haven't added anyone beyond your Reserves presently, with a few exceptions.

yeee... you on the other hand, man youre just resting and not even stressing while everyone else kills each other

[The Manticoran Empire]

You had a larger starting force and haven't added anyone beyond your Reserves presently, with a few exceptions.

yeee... you on the other hand, man youre just resting and not even stressing while everyone else kills each other

Basically. I had the largest standing army in the world when this all started and I haven't even really touched my reserves. All they have done is take over most of the support and garrison duties. I don't anticipate having to enact conscription until 1914.

Plus, y'all are just so willing to bleed each other dry FOR ME! Do you not see this irony? In your attempt to attack me, you are actually weakening yourselves so by the time I make my big moves in late 1913 or early 1914, you and your allies will be too weak to stop it.

[Rannoria]

Arengin, my post with Vail is gonna be up soon. Or like tomorrow. I gotta find a photo and it sucks yo.

How do you think Sios looks like when he was like, what, in his twenties?

[Crimetopolis]

EAay. When he joined the GDU my Nation and WArglorian both helped him revamp his military-industrial-economic-social welfare systems. You'll probably many people whom are disabled working war vital jobs, too. THat free up a lot of man power.

[Arengin Union]

yeee... you on the other hand, man youre just resting and not even stressing while everyone else kills each other

Basically. I had the largest standing army in the world when this all started and I haven't even really touched my reserves. All they have done is take over most of the support and garrison duties. I don't anticipate having to enact conscription until 1914.

Plus, y'all are just so willing to bleed each other dry FOR ME! Do you not see this irony? In your attempt to attack me, you are actually weakening yourselves so by the time I make my big moves in late 1913 or early 1914, you and your allies will be too weak to stop it.

Maybe Skarten but not me. Lol

[Arengin Union]

Arengin, my post with Vail is gonna be up soon. Or like tomorrow. I gotta find a photo and it sucks yo.

How do you think Sios looks like when he was like, what, in his twenties?

I imagine Sios looking like this on his younger years.

And then like this on the later years.

[Skarten]

Skarten, Mant has a point, your nation couldn't support such an army without facing financial problems. However, I think that if you keep your army at a 3 to 4 million men and keep them rougly on the front we need them at, Ruskland, Mant may no longer have an issue. We already have some Skartenean troops in the Boer front but most Skartenean troops should be concentrated on the Eastern Front with Ruskland.

My main issue is how RAPIDLY he did it. Going from barely 2 million to close to 6 million in 10 months. No. Even the 21st century USA can't do that. Regardless of your level of industrialization, such a massive increase in manpower over such a short period of time would be impossible. You could accomplish part of it but it would wreck your economy. You would face severe shortages of food, raw materials, and other necessities.

I'm going from 2 Million to 3 Million. Not that much of a change. I had the Soldiers who came back from The Shievak and Zeeland, Plus the soldiers i had in Skarten before the war, plus the Ones that i recruited.

[Arengin Union]

My main issue is how RAPIDLY he did it. Going from barely 2 million to close to 6 million in 10 months. No. Even the 21st century USA can't do that. Regardless of your level of industrialization, such a massive increase in manpower over such a short period of time would be impossible. You could accomplish part of it but it would wreck your economy. You would face severe shortages of food, raw materials, and other necessities.

I'm going from 2 Million to 3 Million. Not that much of a change. I had the Soldiers who came back from The Shievak and Zeeland, Plus the soldiers i had in Skarten before the war, plus the Ones that i recruited.

Not much of a problem then.