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Postby Skarten » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:46 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:Nice copy of my tank Skar xD

My M5 tank is more powerful. Thicker armor, faster, better gun.

T-34 is often considered WW2s best Tank

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:15 pm

Skarten wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:My M5 tank is more powerful. Thicker armor, faster, better gun.

T-34 is often considered WW2s best Tank

44,900 of them were destroyed by the Germans. The best all around tank of World War 2 was the Panther, which performed exceptionally against all allied tanks and could survive most Allied anti tank guns.
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Postby Skarten » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:27 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Skarten wrote:T-34 is often considered WW2s best Tank

44,900 of them were destroyed by the Germans. The best all around tank of World War 2 was the Panther, which performed exceptionally against all allied tanks and could survive most Allied anti tank guns.

It wasnt Very reliable. Plus, The T 34 is Still better than The M5

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Postby Arengin Union » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:31 pm

Skarten wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:Nice copy of my tank Skar xD

There is no way you could have made an T-34, I went through nearly all the T Tanks

I made t way before you. But whatever.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:05 pm

Skarten wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:44,900 of them were destroyed by the Germans. The best all around tank of World War 2 was the Panther, which performed exceptionally against all allied tanks and could survive most Allied anti tank guns.

It wasnt Very reliable. Plus, The T 34 is Still better than The M5

The M5 is the Panther, first of all. Secondly, the Panther was actually a very reliable tank. The Tiger wasn't but the Panther was an exceptional tank.
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Postby Arengin Union » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:00 pm

Why the fuck is everyone so obsessed with Chemical warfare!! I can't wait to blame Manticore of this at the peace treaty signing.
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Postby Norcourt » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:03 am

Aclus has begged for my return, so I have come back. It is the summer, so I have a little more time to post, but I will not post as frequently. I miss this RP.
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Postby Arengin Union » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:09 am

Norcourt wrote:Aclus has begged for my return, so I have come back. It is the summer, so I have a little more time to post, but I will not post as frequently. I miss this RP.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:03 am

Arengin Union wrote:Why the fuck is everyone so obsessed with Chemical warfare!! I can't wait to blame Manticore of this at the peace treaty signing.

Hey, I ain't gonna lose this war.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:47 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Skarten wrote:It wasnt Very reliable. Plus, The T 34 is Still better than The M5

The M5 is the Panther, first of all. Secondly, the Panther was actually a very reliable tank. The Tiger wasn't but the Panther was an exceptional tank.

No, the Panther wasn't reliable. It may be good on a Flat Land Blitzkrieg, but it wasn't reliable.

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Postby Skarten » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:47 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Skarten wrote:It wasnt Very reliable. Plus, The T 34 is Still better than The M5

The M5 is the Panther, first of all. Secondly, the Panther was actually a very reliable tank. The Tiger wasn't but the Panther was an exceptional tank.

Plus, i can do 2 things, one i won't tell you, and the other, as i said, it's that it's not reliable.

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Postby Skarten » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:50 am

TWF Ruskland doesn't awnser your posts

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:48 am

Skarten wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:The M5 is the Panther, first of all. Secondly, the Panther was actually a very reliable tank. The Tiger wasn't but the Panther was an exceptional tank.

No, the Panther wasn't reliable. It may be good on a Flat Land Blitzkrieg, but it wasn't reliable.

Evidence to support your assertions is where?
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:49 am

Skarten wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:The M5 is the Panther, first of all. Secondly, the Panther was actually a very reliable tank. The Tiger wasn't but the Panther was an exceptional tank.

Plus, i can do 2 things, one i won't tell you, and the other, as i said, it's that it's not reliable.

None of those are actually things. Therefore, you can do nothing.
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Postby Arengin Union » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:53 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:Why the fuck is everyone so obsessed with Chemical warfare!! I can't wait to blame Manticore of this at the peace treaty signing.

Hey, I ain't gonna lose this war.

That's what they all say.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:00 am

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Skarten wrote:Plus, i can do 2 things, one i won't tell you, and the other, as i said, it's that it's not reliable.

None of those are actually things. Therefore, you can do nothing.

You want proof? Well i'll start getting you links


http://ww2f.com/threads/the-panther-tan ... ity.22472/
I'll find more. Plus, the Panther was produced in 1944. And the first thing was the way they defeated germany.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:04 am

Skarten wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:None of those are actually things. Therefore, you can do nothing.

You want proof? Well i'll start getting you links


http://ww2f.com/threads/the-panther-tan ... ity.22472/
I'll find more. Plus, the Panther was produced in 1944. And the first thing was the way they defeated germany.

The Panther entered production in 1943, seeing field action that same year in the Soviet Union. Had it not been for the reallocation of resources to bigger and more expensive tanks like the Tiger, King Tiger, and Maus, the Panther would have performed even better. As it was, the Panther outperformed EVERY Allied medium tank it fought against. T-34s, Shermans, Fireflies. None of then could match the versatility, armor protection, or firepower of the Panther.
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Postby Skarten » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:05 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Skarten wrote:You want proof? Well i'll start getting you links


http://ww2f.com/threads/the-panther-tan ... ity.22472/
I'll find more. Plus, the Panther was produced in 1944. And the first thing was the way they defeated germany.

The Panther entered production in 1943, seeing field action that same year in the Soviet Union. Had it not been for the reallocation of resources to bigger and more expensive tanks like the Tiger, King Tiger, and Maus, the Panther would have performed even better. As it was, the Panther outperformed EVERY Allied medium tank it fought against. T-34s, Shermans, Fireflies. None of then could match the versatility, armor protection, or firepower of the Panther.

Well, the Soviets did beat the panthers, and i'll let you guess why. One chance before i awnser

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Postby Linksburg » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:07 am

I AM A GOOD PRIME MINSTER NO WAR



THE PANTHER WAS ON THE GROUNDS IN 1943 :clap:
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Postby Rannoria » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:05 pm

Linksburg wrote:I AM A GOOD PRIME MINSTER NO WAR



THE PANTHER WAS ON THE GROUNDS IN 1943 :clap:

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Postby Arengin Union » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:11 pm

Linksburg wrote:I AM A GOOD PRIME MINSTER NO WAR



THE PANTHER WAS ON THE GROUNDS IN 1943 :clap:
who the hell are you.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:13 pm

Skarten wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:The Panther entered production in 1943, seeing field action that same year in the Soviet Union. Had it not been for the reallocation of resources to bigger and more expensive tanks like the Tiger, King Tiger, and Maus, the Panther would have performed even better. As it was, the Panther outperformed EVERY Allied medium tank it fought against. T-34s, Shermans, Fireflies. None of then could match the versatility, armor protection, or firepower of the Panther.

Well, the Soviets did beat the panthers, and i'll let you guess why. One chance before i awnser

Not enough Panthers. Easy. A little more than 5,000 Panthers were built before the war ended while the Russians built tens of thousands of T-34s and the Americans built just as many Shermans. Numbers beat the Panther, not technology.
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Postby Aclus » Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:29 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Skarten wrote:Well, the Soviets did beat the panthers, and i'll let you guess why. One chance before i awnser

Not enough Panthers. Easy. A little more than 5,000 Panthers were built before the war ended while the Russians built tens of thousands of T-34s and the Americans built just as many Shermans. Numbers beat the Panther, not technology.

A big reason why the allies had more casualties than the Axis :((
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Postby Arengin Union » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:19 pm

Aclus wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Not enough Panthers. Easy. A little more than 5,000 Panthers were built before the war ended while the Russians built tens of thousands of T-34s and the Americans built just as many Shermans. Numbers beat the Panther, not technology.

A big reason why the allies had more casualties than the Axis :((

Hey we can win this, no matter how many bodies we have to stack, eventually we'll beat em.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:51 pm

Aclus wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Not enough Panthers. Easy. A little more than 5,000 Panthers were built before the war ended while the Russians built tens of thousands of T-34s and the Americans built just as many Shermans. Numbers beat the Panther, not technology.

A big reason why the allies had more casualties than the Axis :((

That was because the Soviet Union didn't understand the concept of Cover.
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