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Postby Murovanka » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:29 am

My next post (after Ach replies) will entail the New Phallian invasion. Christo, the 5th Division (NP) will first attack along the Wein to engage and pin down forces below the Dam, so after my post you can airdrop (chopper?) the men by the Dam.

The main assault- initially- will come through the Dongshan to try draw forces there; Achesia, do you mind if one of the brigades at Haslet is redeployed to the Dongshan to give Christo's troops a fighting chance at the start?

Noveos and Twelve, your troops will/have arrived if I'm right, please tell me where they are assembling for the battlemap. I should have blue symbols for Marine and SF units but I might have to find them. To identify foreign units I'll place a 'TI' or 'N' identifier to the right of the symbol.

In addition, we're assuming that there are major roads linking the main cities and towns drawn in, as well as small rivers, which haven't been added because detail is difficult.

Here a RL analogue of how the air force was used and an example to how the battle for one of those hills could go. I had in mind that it can get really high- around 4-5,000m AGL for peaks like I listed for the Sellenland, which also means that its pretty cold.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:27 am

I'll try to make a post later today.
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Postby Achesia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:02 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:I'll try to make a post later today.


I'm not sure if we were not clear but I'm pretty sure Muro said no naval forces and that you were to be just SF. Please remove thanks.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:14 pm

Achesia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:I'll try to make a post later today.


I'm not sure if we were not clear but I'm pretty sure Muro said no naval forces and that you were to be just SF. Please remove thanks.

OK, though that annoyingly limits my SF options. Basically, if this op goes south, I lose four of the best soldiers in the world cause I can't get an extraction to them.
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Postby Christoslavia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Best by who's standards
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Postby Achesia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:31 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Achesia wrote:
I'm not sure if we were not clear but I'm pretty sure Muro said no naval forces and that you were to be just SF. Please remove thanks.

OK, though that annoyingly limits my SF options. Basically, if this op goes south, I lose four of the best soldiers in the world cause I can't get an extraction to them.


We told you from the beginning what your role is going to be, myself an Muro are doing allot of hard work to keep this a realistic RP, please stop ignoring our requests and going around what we say. Last warning.

Besides They are text soldiers, they can live on :P

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:52 pm

Achesia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:OK, though that annoyingly limits my SF options. Basically, if this op goes south, I lose four of the best soldiers in the world cause I can't get an extraction to them.


We told you from the beginning what your role is going to be, myself an Muro are doing allot of hard work to keep this a realistic RP, please stop ignoring our requests and going around what we say. Last warning.

I know, I know. I'm just feeling a wee bit left out because everyone else is getting conventional forces and is accomplishing stuff and I'm apparently doing nothing.
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Postby Achesia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:55 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Achesia wrote:
We told you from the beginning what your role is going to be, myself an Muro are doing allot of hard work to keep this a realistic RP, please stop ignoring our requests and going around what we say. Last warning.

I know, I know. I'm just feeling a wee bit left out because everyone else is getting conventional forces and is accomplishing stuff and I'm apparently doing nothing.


Again, like we said from the beginning. We had already too many in conventional roles, and that you could join as long as you were just doing SF stuff.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:58 pm

Achesia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:I know, I know. I'm just feeling a wee bit left out because everyone else is getting conventional forces and is accomplishing stuff and I'm apparently doing nothing.


Again, like we said from the beginning. We had already too many in conventional roles, and that you could join as long as you were just doing SF stuff.

I know. But my point about apparently being a spectator remains. Apparently blowing up a firebase doesn't accomplish much.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:59 pm

Christoslavia wrote:Best by who's standards

Special Forces standards, obviously.
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Postby Achesia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:13 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Achesia wrote:
Again, like we said from the beginning. We had already too many in conventional roles, and that you could join as long as you were just doing SF stuff.

I know. But my point about apparently being a spectator remains. Apparently blowing up a firebase doesn't accomplish much.


And my point that you knew what you were applying for remains as well.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:14 pm

Achesia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:I know. But my point about apparently being a spectator remains. Apparently blowing up a firebase doesn't accomplish much.


And my point that you knew what you were applying for remains as well.

Which I have acknowledged multiple times. I also removed the problematic post.
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Postby Christoslavia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:15 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Christoslavia wrote:Best by who's standards

Special Forces standards, obviously.


Competitively they could be shit just saying worlds a bored place. Hate to be nitpicky but just saying
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:33 pm

Christoslavia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Special Forces standards, obviously.


Competitively they could be shit just saying worlds a bored place. Hate to be nitpicky but just saying

I used the US Navy SEALs as the base inspiration for their training and then upped the ante quite a bit. Selection is invite only, operators spend 61 weeks training if they pass the screening test, then spend three weeks alone in the mountains. Only 20 are in this particular unit. 100 have tried. 15 died.
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Postby Christoslavia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:46 pm

Cool my spec ops prowlers are kidnapped at birth and trained their whole lives to be killers like the North Korea. Special Operations Force. Candidates who don't die in the early stages of which 80% Do go on to become cold blooded highly trained killers. Training includes intense augmentations, physical and mental tests, being beaten to the point of not feeling pain, punching rocks until their fists become hard as rock, having to survive in desert and winter climates alone for weeks, and being shot for good measure so they understand.
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Postby The Twelve Isles » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:35 pm

Hey Achesia, should we have our generals meet to discuss strategy, and figure out a plan for the conflict?
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:51 pm

Christoslavia wrote:Cool my spec ops prowlers are kidnapped at birth and trained their whole lives to be killers like the North Korea. Special Operations Force. Candidates who don't die in the early stages of which 80% Do go on to become cold blooded highly trained killers. Training includes intense augmentations, physical and mental tests, being beaten to the point of not feeling pain, punching rocks until their fists become hard as rock, having to survive in desert and winter climates alone for weeks, and being shot for good measure so they understand.

Sounds like a good way to produce automatons. Special Operations is more than just being a hardcore warrior.
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Postby Christoslavia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:01 pm

To you. My point was we can have a pissing contest about this all day but it's pointless because it's all words. Stay humble and stop being snarky
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Postby Christoslavia » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:02 pm

If they can do unconventional jobs better than a regular soldier, congrats it's special forces. Training also doesn't mean anything against a bullet
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Postby Noveos » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:26 pm

Achesia wrote:
Noveos wrote:In the onset of this conflict, I plan on acting as a shadowy force-hacking servers, and causing havoc among enemy networks.

But when military action is required, I am ready. Hopefully, @Achesia, I'll have access to Atla's airfields.


I'll send in a battalion consisting of fighters, reconnaissance, and drones. It should be noted that the planes before the dash are the actual aircraft I'm using; the ones after are just there to represent their capabilities.

243 Stryker Battalion:
-Alpha Stryker Squadron
A1 Wing:
F-38 Specter--F-22 x12
A2 Wing
AT-120--AC-130 x3
A3 Wing
FS-14 Merlin--F/A-18 x6
A4
Cypher RT-33 Arion--Boeing KC-46 Pegasus X4
Personnel: 400

-Beta Stryker Squadron
B1 Wing
R-6 Shadow--U-2 x2
B2 Wing
US-Wraith--BAE Taranis x4
B3 Wing
B-42 Avalerion--B-1B x 1
B-4 Wing
UR-64B--SR-72 x1
Personnel: 125

Total Manpower: 525



I think I should mention I was one of the first to apply



Yeah deff once you announce then I will prob request back to you for aid and then you can bring your troops into Kohlor.



Just let me know when

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Postby Noveos » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:29 pm

@Manticore

I'm playing on cyberwarfare right now, but my forces are on alert. Acording of Achesia, I'll have most of my air forces on Kohler. Just waiting on his command

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Postby Murovanka » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:44 pm

Cut it out, and that goes for you too Christo. If you want to discuss special forces, do, but it ain't an OOC contest. In the end how good your forces are depends on how good the people you're RPing with accept them to be.

Manticora, I said before that if you want to deploy forces, give us good reasons for Manticora's IC involvement. I have my reasons for restrictions; Ach and I were hard on them with Twelve, Christo and Noveos too. One, realism, two, no space on map.

All combatants are standing partners with their allies and have a history of animosity to the enemy (like Twelve is pissed at NP for taking Canton from their sphere of influence). Twelve is the one blockading here and damaging trade, shouldn't you be opposing that?
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Postby Noveos » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:54 pm

Murovanka wrote:Cut it out, and that goes for you too Christo. If you want to discuss special forces, do, but it ain't an OOC contest. In the end how good your forces are depends on how good the people you're RPing with accept them to be.

Manticora, I said before that if you want to deploy forces, give us good reasons for Manticora's IC involvement. I have my reasons for restrictions; Ach and I were hard on them with Twelve, Christo and Noveos too. One, realism, two, no space on map.

All combatants are standing partners with their allies and have a history of animosity to the enemy (like Twelve is pissed at NP for taking Canton from their sphere of influence). Twelve is the one blockading here and damaging trade, shouldn't you be opposing that?



I forgot to ask-was I responsible for attacking Phallian grids or was it Islish?

I also plan on making an accidental slip in my IC post. A reporter asks my leader a question, and he accidently admits Noveosian involvement. There could be other ways too, I guess
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Postby Christoslavia » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:20 am

Sorry muro
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Postby West-Phalia » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:39 am

Murovanka wrote:@Twelve @Christo @Westphalia what do you think? I can add West-Phalian ships too, hope all else is clearly marked (its the Hesperan Sea/Phallian Gulf, depending on who you are). Numbered grey units are New Phallian squadrons, all red is Islish. The units can either be single ships or squadrons, I could add designations but it may get too messy.

To add another layer of complexity we can say the three islands of Ellent/Windel/Ile Sud belong to New Phallia, allowing the NP Coalition to launch missiles from there and have Twelve land marines to take the islands.

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Speaking of adding West-Phalian ships, I have just finished my Orbat (hopefully), meaning that you can now add my ships placements on the map (if you wish). The Jakobsflotte, 1st. Transportflotte, 1st. and 2nd. Angriffsflotte's are stationed in the the most northernly islands of mine. The other two Transportflotte's are stationed on the more southernly islands.
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