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Stille Nacht: Crown's Burden [OOC][MT]

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Achesia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:49 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
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Special forces would work. There's nothing north of the area as of yet but you can fly over it and sneak into New Phallia from north or Atla, or even Chen because their IADS is kinda nonexistent. Would you be into human rights and that sort of thing, you can try liberating concentration camps which we are deporting the Sainese to and putting them into forced labour, basically.

Atla's defense for now seems to be hiding around and conducting guerrilla strikes, you could do more deep-operations and attacking targets far behind lines.

Anyway, you're accepted. Currently Phallia is mobilising to invade Atla for meddling in the Shentong (+ other reasons) so you'll be able to deploy soonish, or even start posting about their arrival now if Achesia permits.

Alright. I'll start out with a post that introduces the team, their handler, and the operation. Officially, however, none of the individuals involved exist.

What I'm still going to need, however, is a rough idea of what constitutes realistic population etc.


I mean if your just a special force team then I dont think you need a population.

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Postby The Twelve Isles » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:57 pm

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Muro could correct me if I'm wrong but I think Stille is Silent.

Well I don't speak German so I'm not surprised I translated it wrong.


Yeah, Stille Nachte means silent night in german. Still, good to see you around the grapevine.
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Postby Achesia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:00 pm

Christo.

I'm sorry but please no one liners... Please amend that to have more substance. Thanks.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:25 pm

Achesia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Alright. I'll start out with a post that introduces the team, their handler, and the operation. Officially, however, none of the individuals involved exist.

What I'm still going to need, however, is a rough idea of what constitutes realistic population etc.


I mean if your just a special force team then I dont think you need a population.

For background and for if things get less Contra and more Desert Storm.
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Postby Achesia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:30 pm

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I mean if your just a special force team then I dont think you need a population.

For background and for if things get less Contra and more Desert Storm.


There is not going to be desert storm here...


I really don't know why this keeps coming up. Why does everyone think that every conflict auto defaults to desert storm?

Everyone repeat after me... This... Is... Not... A.. War... In... Iraq...
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Postby Murovanka » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:59 pm

Achesia wrote:This... Is... Not... A.. War... In... Iraq...


Tis not ah dessert stom!

Christo, you make us sound like how the US is dealing with Saudi. "Everything you're doing is wrong and goes against our values but we're still with you!" It's great.
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Postby Christoslavia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:08 pm

I gotchu man, although Christoslavia is truly a despicable slaving dictatorship who has no problems with what youre doing, we just dont want you to get hurt m8
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Postby Christoslavia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:08 pm

Gotta remain holistic my bruh
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Postby Murovanka » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:24 pm

Christoslavia wrote:I gotchu man, although Christoslavia is truly a despicable slaving dictatorship who has no problems with what youre doing, we just dont want you to get hurt m8


Yeah damnit, I didn't know for sure else I'd have pointed that out. But it was a great and quite real conversation, I didn't use my main but yes it'd be fair to say there is significant international pressure on New Phallia to pull out of the Shentong. So we did quite realistically look at how New Phallia needs to act carefully and consider foreign opinion.

Also I believe Achesia is writing up his next post and I will follow up with an already written post; I'll include the effects of a hacking attack. Noveos, do post whenever with what you have, you can actually post that after we post of the attacks (screw chronology). Sorry for moving so fast but we can't get bogged down, esp with Ach and my time constraints.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:08 am

Achesia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:For background and for if things get less Contra and more Desert Storm.


There is not going to be desert storm here...


I really don't know why this keeps coming up. Why does everyone think that every conflict auto defaults to desert storm?

Everyone repeat after me... This... Is... Not... A.. War... In... Iraq...

I said "IF".
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Postby Achesia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:02 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Achesia wrote:
There is not going to be desert storm here...


I really don't know why this keeps coming up. Why does everyone think that every conflict auto defaults to desert storm?

Everyone repeat after me... This... Is... Not... A.. War... In... Iraq...

I said "IF".


Ya, I know. You just happen to be the 5th person to mention some sort of iraq war concept which is farthest from anything that is actually gonna happen.

So I'd just stick with SF.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:35 am

Achesia wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:I said "IF".


Ya, I know. You just happen to be the 5th person to mention some sort of iraq war concept which is farthest from anything that is actually gonna happen.

So I'd just stick with SF.

Well I was at a loss for another analogy to use.
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Postby Murovanka » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:49 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Achesia wrote:
Ya, I know. You just happen to be the 5th person to mention some sort of iraq war concept which is farthest from anything that is actually gonna happen.

So I'd just stick with SF.

Well I was at a loss for another analogy to use.


Yom Kippur, Sino-Vietnam, one of the Indo-Pakistani wars come closest perhaps. Our dam idea isn't new, I got that from the Egyptian Aswan Dam that played an important role in the Suez War. Just me being a history buff.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:57 am

Murovanka wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Well I was at a loss for another analogy to use.


Yom Kippur, Sino-Vietnam, one of the Indo-Pakistani wars come closest perhaps. Our dam idea isn't new, I got that from the Egyptian Aswan Dam that played an important role in the Suez War. Just me being a history buff.

I'm talking about my involvement, which would probably be better described as 1960 Vietnam.
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Postby Christoslavia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:01 am

@Manticoran Empire, no one knows Christoslavia has boots on the ground, my unit is there secretly conducting deniability operations. You wouldnt know i was taking casualties
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Postby Achesia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:23 am

Christoslavia wrote:@Manticoran Empire, no one knows Christoslavia has boots on the ground, my unit is there secretly conducting deniability operations. You wouldnt know i was taking casualties


Chrsito what does the official announcement mean? Because I thought we had agreed you were just gonna be the PMC?

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Postby Christoslavia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:27 am

In the IC the discussion between Armand and SUPREME OVERLORD ultimately concluded with my support statement being a deterrent to the Twelve Isles. Muro seems fine with it
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:33 am

Christoslavia wrote:@Manticoran Empire, no one knows Christoslavia has boots on the ground, my unit is there secretly conducting deniability operations. You wouldnt know i was taking casualties

Whatever. I'll fix it when I get to it.
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Postby Christoslavia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:35 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Christoslavia wrote:@Manticoran Empire, no one knows Christoslavia has boots on the ground, my unit is there secretly conducting deniability operations. You wouldnt know i was taking casualties

Whatever. I'll fix it when I get to it.


just letting you know
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Postby Murovanka » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:10 am

Christoslavia wrote:In the IC the discussion between Armand and SUPREME OVERLORD ultimately concluded with my support statement being a deterrent to the Twelve Isles. Muro seems fine with it


Yeah no prob, like Twelve you can put maybe 1-2 brigades on the ground, though if there's naval trouble you'd first have to fight that off. Wonder if Christo would contact the Isles warning them if they get involved Christo will too?

Manticora, perhaps the reason for you wanting to destabilize New Phallia would be one the libertarian/friendlier nature of Atla and we can say our nations have a history of scratching each others backs and not being too friendly. You could be a partner of Chen and following the last war where New Phallia just barged in, took Canton and annexed part of Chen that didn't do you too well and New Phallia is seen as aggressive and destabilising. Like Israel, in how it treats ethnic minorities and has a bomb-first policy.
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Postby Christoslavia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:08 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=christoslavia/detail=factbook/id=782530

Link with explanations of the Prowlers and the regiment I have in country
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Postby Noveos » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:42 pm

I posted. Not sure if Achesia has the message

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Postby Achesia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:43 pm

Christoslavia wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=christoslavia/detail=factbook/id=782530

Link with explanations of the Prowlers and the regiment I have in country


Where are they?

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Postby Christoslavia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:55 pm

Prowler are at the bottom under Ministry of War, unit that's already in country is 14th Guerilla warfare regiment. To explain the prowlers "stealth technology", the inspiration comes from a Canadian company that made an invisibility blanket that reflects light in 2014. That same technology is incorporated into full body armor
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Postby Achesia » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:03 pm

Christoslavia wrote:Prowler are at the bottom under Ministry of War, unit that's already in country is 14th Guerilla warfare regiment. To explain the prowlers "stealth technology", the inspiration comes from a Canadian company that made an invisibility blanket that reflects light in 2014. That same technology is incorporated into full body armor


Errr thats not employed in any modern military as of yet, and since we are Hard-MT i'm going to say thats beyond the scope of this RP, that's PMT. Sorry.
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