Stille Nacht: Crown's Burden [OOC][MT]

[Achesia]

Yup yup, good standard. Makes good sense.

Thats the plan so far.

The biggest problem if I was to call on my reserves though is while my Naval Fleet is large and in charge, my Air and Tank fleets are much smaller, so if I was to call on all of those soldiers it would become a Soviet Russia style war, with me just throwing waves of people at my enemies, and thats not something I want to do. I would much rather work on building more tanks and aircraft, so I can have a military that is both large and technologically advanced, which is what my nation is currently doing at the time of this RP.

Gotcha. For this conflict though, I think unless you get chen to allow your troops in to deploy there, you are going to have a hard time because you will have to launch any offensive from the sea. Which severely limits you on troop numbers and types of equipment (tanks would be few and far between) as well as actual reach into land since Atla is actually hundreds of miles inland. But if you were to side with Atla as well it would make thing sless difficult as then you only have to get flyover permissions to bring troopa in... or use more... shady methods...

[Achesia]

How do you see them coming into this rp?

Aligning with Alta to try and seperate from Sarmatchka. They were inspired by Alta's independence. Currently they are just a pain for Sarmatchka but in the future they could become fully sovereign republics.

I like the idea, but I would want to keep the scope of the rp to the conflict at hand, but perhaps later on we could do such an RP where somehing like that happens. I just dont want to add TOO much into this RP as things would be really crazy to follow.

[The Twelve Isles]

Thats the plan so far.

The biggest problem if I was to call on my reserves though is while my Naval Fleet is large and in charge, my Air and Tank fleets are much smaller, so if I was to call on all of those soldiers it would become a Soviet Russia style war, with me just throwing waves of people at my enemies, and thats not something I want to do. I would much rather work on building more tanks and aircraft, so I can have a military that is both large and technologically advanced, which is what my nation is currently doing at the time of this RP.

Gotcha. For this conflict though, I think unless you get chen to allow your troops in to deploy there, you are going to have a hard time because you will have to launch any offensive from the sea. Which severely limits you on troop numbers and types of equipment (tanks would be few and far between) as well as actual reach into land since Atla is actually hundreds of miles inland. But if you were to side with Atla as well it would make thing sless difficult as then you only have to get flyover permissions to bring troopa in... or use more... shady methods...

Ive definitely been thinking about that, and Ive been thinking that I will probably go more for Atla. We'll see where the RP takes things, but thats whats its looking like right now.

[Noveos]

I'd like to make a submission as well (I'm not in the same region, but I hope to be a part of this)

Nation/Organisation/Character: Noveos Republic
Alignment (Phallia/Atla/Neutral): Atla
What do you plan to do?:
The Noveos Republic is a relatively young country, similar to many states in this region. It is a democratic republic, but with a few key differences. The current leader has, and will, remained in power over the previously specified term unit, as dictated by popular vote and a constitutional amendment. He also has a more "hands on' role within the military. It is situated West of Atla and North of New Phalia.

The Noveos Republic is an economically prosperous nation, and this is most contributed to its early leaders' hardline economic policies, access to the sea, and access to ores in its interior. Its prosperity has allowed it to be a center of scientific and technological development, and to boast a modern, cutting edge air force and military.

In spite of its prosperity, the Noveos Republic heavily depends on a few of its surrounding neighbors. The Noveos Republic lacks an effective navy, so it relies on the Twelve Isles to protect its shipping trade from pirates from Chen and Canton. Additionally, it has an even heavier dependence on Alta. Although the Noveos Republic has its own sources of ore, it lacks a definitive source of rare earths, which are essential in maintaining a technologically advanced society. Finally, the Noveos Republic is economically inclined against New Phallia, due competition between its ports and the the Republic's.

RP Sample:I have none ._. This is my first time doing RP, and I thought I'd give this a try (I completely understand if you don't desire to have an inexperienced RPer within this thread)



Don't call me noob.

plz

Also, if there are any grammar errors, I apologize, since I wrote this at 12 am

[Achesia]

I'd like to make a submission as well (I'm not in the same region, but I hope to be a part of this)

Nation/Organisation/Character: Noveos Republic
Alignment (Phallia/Atla/Neutral): Atla
What do you plan to do?:
The Noveos Republic is a relatively young country, similar to many states in this region. It is a democratic republic, but with a few key differences. The current leader has, and will, remained in power over the previously specified term unit, as dictated by popular vote and a constitutional amendment. He also has a more "hands on' role within the military. It is situated West of Atla and North of New Phalia.

The Noveos Republic is an economically prosperous nation, and this is most contributed to its early leaders' hardline economic policies, access to the sea, and access to ores in its interior. Its prosperity has allowed it to be a center of scientific and technological development, and to boast a modern, cutting edge air force and military.

In spite of its prosperity, the Noveos Republic heavily depends on a few of its surrounding neighbors. The Noveos Republic lacks an effective navy, so it relies on the Twelve Isles to protect its shipping trade from pirates from Chen and Canton. Additionally, it has an even heavier dependence on Alta. Although the Noveos Republic has its own sources of ore, it lacks a definitive source of rare earths, which are essential in maintaining a technologically advanced society. Finally, the Noveos Republic is economically inclined against New Phallia, due competition between its ports and the the Republic's.

RP Sample:I have none ._. This is my first time doing RP, and I thought I'd give this a try (I completely understand if you don't desire to have an inexperienced RPer within this thread)



Don't call me noob.

plz

Also, if there are any grammar errors, I apologize, since I wrote this at 12 am

Welcome! Nope no name calling here I'm actually pretty impressed that since its your first RP you have that detailed of a national description. Though I dont know if Muro intends to have Chen and Canton have pirates ( haha funny mental images of chinese pirates popped into my brain) I'm sure there is a way we can develop what you have above into something that fits or so.

Firstly, do you have any other experience writing or RPing on another site? Seems like you know a bit to put that together

[Achesia]

Gotcha. For this conflict though, I think unless you get chen to allow your troops in to deploy there, you are going to have a hard time because you will have to launch any offensive from the sea. Which severely limits you on troop numbers and types of equipment (tanks would be few and far between) as well as actual reach into land since Atla is actually hundreds of miles inland. But if you were to side with Atla as well it would make thing sless difficult as then you only have to get flyover permissions to bring troopa in... or use more... shady methods...

Ive definitely been thinking about that, and Ive been thinking that I will probably go more for Atla. We'll see where the RP takes things, but thats whats its looking like right now.

Awesome yup, Me and Muro were just talking about how to start things, so soon I think we will discuss RP outcomes and such so we know the direction of the RP.

[Lamerika]

Nation/Organisation/Character: The People's Republic of Lamerika
Alignment (Phallia/Atla/Neutral): Shentong Liberation Army/Atla
What do you plan to do?: The People's Republic of Lamerika is a young nation, having just gained it's independence through a violent uprising, and still, just under a decade later is in an almost euphoric state. Full of proud patriots and nationalistic zeal, the independent republic is eager to flex her muscles on the global scale.

There is very little in either the Atlan Government which the PRL actively supports, and if anything it's leaning towards Atla is more in convenience than ideological similarities or out of principle. The landlocked nation, rich with resources presents an exciting opportunity for the Lamerikan Economy, and it would do the PRL well to secure Atla as a trading partner. And do to an ingrained hatred towards monarchism, the chance to damage one in the process is merely icing on the cake.

However, the Lamerikan's main interest in the region is the Shentong and the SLA. The Lamerikan Government has taken a liking for the rebels, see them as a chance to spread socialism across the globe, and again secure the access to the resources in the region. At first, the Lamerikan Government wishes to send supplies to the Shentong rebels, be it weapons, ammo or vehicles, or humanitarian supplies.

Damaging the Phallian economy through supporting Atlanian aggression, and supporting Rebel groups is the first step of the Lamerikan plan, though if necessary the Lamerikan People's Revolutionary Army is ready to take action.
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Also, should I provide a description of my nation? I noticed that you include that in OP, and am happy to provide one. I hope you find everything acceptable

[Murovanka]

Managed to skim over the recent posts, apologies if I missed anything.

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Hello, welcome, yes a description would help, maybe I should add that to the app...

and well then, socialist rebels

Edit: Atla isn't left-wing in any way if I understand, so I'll wait for Ach to think about it before accepting.

On Twelve Isles: if its fine then you'll lean to Atla while keeping peace, that's great. Maybe our diplomats can gather at one of your isles to negotiate sometime.

On Sarmatchka and Noveos: I believe Sarmatchka claimed the land northwest of Phallia/Atla already, so perhaps Noveos could be located north of Atla? Keep in mind that it is landlocked, however.

There's no problem with claiming land on our map, though it we would prefer if you applied to the region- otherwise, we do reserve the right to use/modify your nation concept if we have to for RP purposes (in case you go inactive, for example).

On realism- I share the same concerns as Achesia, if we haven't mentioned both of us are used to more hard-MT and real-world population sizes and troop numbers, so please scale deployments appropriately.

From what I have seen however, the numbers are acceptable. As said, Phallia has an army of 350,000 active and due to conscription can call up maybe a million reserves in case Chen decides to total-war it. For those deploying troops do account for the logistical and political costs of doing so, I don't want to set limits and I believe we're all mature enough here to not to godmod/try to overrun with numbers.

What we're heading at/outcomes:
We're looking at a war RP here (starting with an insurgency and build-up); whether and to what extent it remains limited or turns into total war remains to be seen (though limited is more likely, the Shentong isn't that important). That much is set.

Achesia and I have discussed, the outcome of the RP will be left open-ended. An option can be stalemate, an Atlan victory with Shentong independence and collapse of Samchatkan monarchy, or a Phallian/Samchatkan victory.

I believe that's our position Achesia, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Lamerika]

Managed to skim over the recent posts, apologies if I missed anything.

-snip-

Hello, welcome, yes a description would help, maybe I should add that to the app...

and well then, socialist rebels

Edit: Atla isn't left-wing in any way if I understand, so I'll wait for Ach to think about it before accepting.

Yeah, I didn't think it was. I'd still support them though, and the rebels as well if they aren't leftist either (though I might nudge them in the right direction)

Anyway, I'll get on making a description

[The Twelve Isles]

Hey, what year does this RP take place?

Just so I know how technologically advanced I can get.

I was imagining it taking place around 2005 or 2006, but I thought I would ask.

[The Twelve Isles]

Here's the characters Im going to be using when we get this RP going. Just thought I would make some apps to give a little perspective on them for everyone else here.

Nation/Organisation/Character: Imperial General Steven Lays
Alignment (Phallia/Atla/Neutral): The Twelve Isles Armed Forces / Army
What do you plan to do?: Lays is the commander of all Isles ground forces, and is as a result a major player in the field of Isles military involvement. Command the army as best he can, inflict enough losses on his enemy's to more adequately rule the ground in the conflict, keep tabs on enemy forces before any conflict breaks out.
RP Sample:

Nation/Organisation/Character: Imperial Admiral Nathaniel Hayes
Alignment (Phallia/Atla/Neutral): Hayes is the commander of all Isles naval forces, and is the Naval equivalent of Billy Younger.
What do you plan to do?: Command the navy as best he can, inflict enough losses on his enemys to more adequately rule the waves in the conflict, keep tabs on enemy forces before any conflict breaks out.
RP Sample:

Nation/Organisation/Character: Emperor Alexander Cartwine
Alignment (Phallia/Atla/Neutral): Alexander is the leader of the Empire of the Twelve Isles, and the commander and chief of all Isles operations in the Atla/Phallia region.
What do you plan to do?: Negotiate peace between Atla and Phallia before things can get heated, lead his nation through the war if troops have to be deployed.
RP Sample:

Nation/Organisation/Character: Corporal Jimmy Barrow
Alignment (Phallia/Atla/Neutral): Isles Armed Forces / 1st Isles Marine Regiment / 1st Marine Armored Assault Battalion
What do you plan to do?: Jimmy is a soldiers in the Isles Naval Marines, and would act as a shock trooper in the invasion of Phallia if war was to break out. If not, he would simply act as a soldier stationed in Atla, and give perspective to the effects the RP has on the Isles.
RP Sample:

[The Twelve Isles]

Nation/Organisation/Character: The People's Republic of Lamerika
Alignment (Phallia/Atla/Neutral): Shentong Liberation Army/Atla
What do you plan to do?: The People's Republic of Lamerika is a young nation, having just gained it's independence through a violent uprising, and still, just under a decade later is in an almost euphoric state. Full of proud patriots and nationalistic zeal, the independent republic is eager to flex her muscles on the global scale.

There is very little in either the Atlan Government which the PRL actively supports, and if anything it's leaning towards Atla is more in convenience than ideological similarities or out of principle. The landlocked nation, rich with resources presents an exciting opportunity for the Lamerikan Economy, and it would do the PRL well to secure Atla as a trading partner. And do to an ingrained hatred towards monarchism, the chance to damage one in the process is merely icing on the cake.

However, the Lamerikan's main interest in the region is the Shentong and the SLA. The Lamerikan Government has taken a liking for the rebels, see them as a chance to spread socialism across the globe, and again secure the access to the resources in the region. At first, the Lamerikan Government wishes to send supplies to the Shentong rebels, be it weapons, ammo or vehicles, or humanitarian supplies.

Damaging the Phallian economy through supporting Atlanian aggression, and supporting Rebel groups is the first step of the Lamerikan plan, though if necessary the Lamerikan People's Revolutionary Army is ready to take action.
RP Sample: Number 1
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Also, should I provide a description of my nation? I noticed that you include that in OP, and am happy to provide one. I hope you find everything acceptable

So, it says here that your people are against monarchy's.

But what do they think of Constitutional Monarchy's? I ask because the Isles are a constitutional monarchy, and it looks like we're gonna be allies just by proximity.

[Murovanka]

Hey, what year does this RP take place?

Just so I know how technologically advanced I can get.

I was imagining it taking place around 2005 or 2006, but I thought I would ask.

For the benefit of all we might leave a date out altogether. Our region has its own timeline and we usually assign some date to it for chronological purpose, but you don't have to fllow that. I think this one would happen (Stille Nacht Canon) 1990s.

For tech purposes, modern day; RL 1960s-today. Long as you know that every weapon system has weaknesses and be defeated, and you're not using it to techwank (justify why so-and-so HAS to lose this battle bcuz superior tech) I don't mind. Competitive RP has never worked for me, and I'd much rather prefer people discuss forces/battles and agree to an outcome beforehand. And please be ready to accept losing battles and people too.

Yeah, I didn't think it was. I'd still support them though, and the rebels as well if they aren't leftist either (though I might nudge them in the right direction)

Anyway, I'll get on making a description

Yes, nudge them to the right

Well, with a bit of leftist literature the rebels could easily find truth in communism. In face of blatant exploitation and inequality Marx doesn't sound bad.

Rules and more information updated on the second post in this thread, not sure how I forgot the former. Do take note please, questions regarding those welcome.

[The Twelve Isles]

Hey, what year does this RP take place?

Just so I know how technologically advanced I can get.

I was imagining it taking place around 2005 or 2006, but I thought I would ask.

For the benefit of all we might leave a date out altogether. Our region has its own timeline and we usually assign some date to it for chronological purpose, but you don't have to fllow that. I think this one would happen (Stille Nacht Canon) 1990s.

For tech purposes, modern day; RL 1960s-today. Long as you know that every weapon system has weaknesses and be defeated, and you're not using it to techwank (justify why so-and-so HAS to lose this battle bcuz superior tech) I don't mind. Competitive RP has never worked for me, and I'd much rather prefer people discuss forces/battles and agree to an outcome beforehand. And please be ready to accept losing battles and people too.

Alright, sounds good. Im gonna be rolling with some 2003 Invasion of Iraq tech then. I think that fits pretty well with my nations technologically advanced army considering the themes of this RP seem to be based around conflicts like the Invasion of Iraq.

[Murovanka]

So, it says here that your people are against monarchy's.

But what do they think of Constitutional Monarchy's? I ask because the Isles are a constitutional monarchy, and it looks like we're gonna be allies just by proximity.

Good, more internal differences Phallia can exploit.

As socialist he would hate Phallia, where the King holds significant political power and the royal family dominates politics and business. And is generally conservative, loves capitalism, screw labour rights and equality.

[The Twelve Isles]

So, it says here that your people are against monarchy's.

But what do they think of Constitutional Monarchy's? I ask because the Isles are a constitutional monarchy, and it looks like we're gonna be allies just by proximity.

Good, more internal differences Phallia can exploit.

As socialist he would hate Phallia, where the King holds significant political power and the royal family dominates politics and business. And is generally conservative, loves capitalism, screw labour rights and equality.

My nation is really much more close to being Democratic Socialists, with a free market but socialized infrastructure.

Our Emperor or Empress is hereditary, but acts much more similarly to a president, with checks and balances to keep them from being able to seize to much power. And if the people feel that the Emperor / Empress is causing to much problems and breaking the law, they can be impeached and a new family can be voted in as the royal family, at which point they will continue on as the rulers of the nation until they all die or are impeached themselves.

So, we are technically a monarchy, but a pretty liberal one.

[Lamerika]

My nation is really much more close to being Democratic Socialists, with a free market but socialized infrastructure.

Our Emperor or Empress is hereditary, but acts much more similarly to a president, with checks and balances to keep them from being able to seize to much power. And if the people feel that the Emperor / Empress is causing to much problems and breaking the law, they can be impeached and a new family can be voted in as the royal family, at which point they will continue on as the rulers of the nation until they all die or are impeached themselves.

So, we are technically a monarchy, but a pretty liberal one.

Hmmm...

We've allied with Monarchies before. Begrudgingly, but allied nonetheless. We likely wouldn't like your nation, but we'd be open to work with you if the situation came about.

The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend, right?

[The Twelve Isles]

My nation is really much more close to being Democratic Socialists, with a free market but socialized infrastructure.

Our Emperor or Empress is hereditary, but acts much more similarly to a president, with checks and balances to keep them from being able to seize to much power. And if the people feel that the Emperor / Empress is causing to much problems and breaking the law, they can be impeached and a new family can be voted in as the royal family, at which point they will continue on as the rulers of the nation until they all die or are impeached themselves.

So, we are technically a monarchy, but a pretty liberal one.

Hmmm...

We've allied with Monarchies before. Begrudgingly, but allied nonetheless. We likely wouldn't like your nation, but we'd be open to work with you if the situation came about.

The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend, right?

Thats what Im thinking.

Im willing to put aside differences to work for both of our nations greater goods.

So, if we're gonna be allies, what are your nations strengths and weaknesses?

The Isles occupy's a place in the world similar to modern day Russia. We're a former superpower just starting to get back on our feet and flex out muscles again. We have a powerful navy, though it is somewhat outdated and being phased our for more modern ships. The army and air force are both highly modernized and mobile, but are smaller. We have a current professional military of 216,000 soldiers, but we have a reserve of 2 million soldiers and National Guards, which we hope to use to bump our active duty soldiers up to about 350,000 to 400,000 soldiers if the conflict comes to blows.

[Murovanka]

Someone mentioned pirates, and incidentally thats exactly what I had in mind for Chen and Canton (more for Canton maybe). Canton is like a failed state where drugs and pirate go about, and the government is de facto a satellite of Phallia which uses Canton as buffer against Chen.

Then again Chen is like a North Korea except with more people.

@Twelve Isles, keep in mind you're not going to deploy half a million troops to Atla. It's a small mountainous region we're disputing, where even Atla and Phallia will have maybe no more than 50,000 troops each on the front at one time, so really a brigade or a divisions worth is enough for purpose (depending on level of escalation).

While I can see it escalating, its not so much that I want to limit what you can/can't do rather than the more troops you deploy, the more I need to compensate, and we don't want an upward spiral of who can stuff more troops into a few mountain passes.

As I said before, blockading Phallia would be pretty damaging and a naval confrontation would be interesting too.

[The Twelve Isles]

Someone mentioned pirates, and incidentally thats exactly what I had in mind for Chen and Canton (more for Canton maybe). Canton is like a failed state where drugs and pirate go about, and the government is de facto a satellite of Phallia which uses Canton as buffer against Chen.

Then again Chen is like a North Korea except with more people.

@Twelve Isles, keep in mind you're not going to deploy half a million troops to Atla. It's a small mountainous region we're disputing, where even Atla and Phallia will have maybe no more than 50,000 troops each on the front at one time, so really a brigade or a divisions worth is enough for purpose (depending on level of escalation).

While I can see it escalating, its not so much that I want to limit what you can/can't do rather than the more troops you deploy, the more I need to compensate, and we don't want an upward spiral of who can stuff more troops into a few mountain passes.

As I said before, blockading Phallia would be pretty damaging and a naval confrontation would be interesting too.

Im not planning to send in half a million soldiers, Im just stating how many I have for the sake of talking strategy. If the war was to escalate, I probably wouldn't sent many more than that many into the region either, since ultimately there isnt anything in the region that the Isles cant secure in other places or themselves, so its mostly to protect allies rather than to secure resources.

Besides, as with any modern military, the vast majority of the soldiers I deploy would be support.

In terms of the nave, as far as I can tell Im the only one here who has a major navy, so I havent been thinking much of it. If someone else has a navy that could stand up to mine, I would pay more attention to my naval strategy, but for now Im just planning on blockading Phallia. (I do like that idea, so I plan to take your advice and do it.)

[Federated Kingdom]

I'd be interested in posting a few news articles. I've got a résumé of my work available here.

[Murovanka]

Im not planning to send in half a million soldiers, Im just stating how many I have for the sake of talking strategy. If the war was to escalate, I probably wouldn't sent many more than that many into the region either, since ultimately there isnt anything in the region that the Isles cant secure in other places or themselves, so its mostly to protect allies rather than to secure resources.

Besides, as with any modern military, the vast majority of the soldiers I deploy would be support.

In terms of the nave, as far as I can tell Im the only one here who has a major navy, so I havent been thinking much of it. If someone else has a navy that could stand up to mine, I would pay more attention to my naval strategy, but for now Im just planning on blockading Phallia. (I do like that idea, so I plan to take your advice and do it.)

Alright, thanks for clarifying. And that is correct that in the tooth-to-tail ratio your tail would be high.

The role of the Phallian navy would pretty much be coastal defence in the form of area denial with an eye to raiding Chen's coastline. What I had in mind was a focus on mine warfare, missile boats and submarines; a few squadrons of each to no more than ~30 warships. And minor amphibious warfare capabilities.

I'd be interested in posting a few news articles. I've got a résumé of my work available here.

That's great, you're welcome to post. RPing as a foreign national/journalist/agent within Phallia and Atla is no problem too.

[The Twelve Isles]

I'd be interested in posting a few news articles. I've got a résumé of my work available here.

If war was to break out, would you be interested in embedding a reporter in an Isles Marine Armored Assault Company?

I already have a character who is a soldier in an Armored Assault Company, mostly to give a little view into the effects of the conflict, and I think it would be interesting to have a civilian reporter giving their view on the war to the rest of the world. Sorta like the reporter in Generation Kill. Plus, it would be a good addition to the IBC's resume to be able to say they have had that opportunity.

[Federated Kingdom]

I'd be interested in posting a few news articles. I've got a résumé of my work available here.

That's great, you're welcome to post. RPing as a foreign national/journalist/agent within Phallia and Atla is no problem too.

Thanks! I'd be interested in doing a few interviews too, if you're open to that.

I'd be interested in posting a few news articles. I've got a résumé of my work available here.

If war was to break out, would you be interested in embedding a reporter in an Isles Marine Armored Assault Company?

I already have a character who is a soldier in an Armored Assault Company, mostly to give a little view into the effects of the conflict, and I think it would be interesting to have a civilian reporter giving their view on the war to the rest of the world. Sorta like the reporter in Generation Kill. Plus, it would be a good addition to the IBC's resume to be able to say they have had that opportunity.

I'd be interested in that! I could accompany it with some live updates [from an in-character perspective, anyway] on micro.blog, similar to what Quentin Sommerville is doing right now.

[Achesia]

Managed to skim over the recent posts, apologies if I missed anything.



Hello, welcome, yes a description would help, maybe I should add that to the app...

and well then, socialist rebels

Edit: Atla isn't left-wing in any way if I understand, so I'll wait for Ach to think about it before accepting.

Yeah, I didn't think it was. I'd still support them though, and the rebels as well if they aren't leftist either (though I might nudge them in the right direction)

Anyway, I'll get on making a description

Yeah we are a libertarian republic so pretty far from communism, but funny thing about being libertarian is we would trade with anyone. Just not stinky Phallians