Second Cedorian-Hoosier War (OOC MT, TG for entry)

[Cedoria]

With the signing of the Treaty of Ephesis ending the military conflict that broke out between the People's Republic of Cedoria and the Hoosier Alliance, both sides withdrew back to pre-agreed lines. For the Cedorians, the conflict ended satisfactorily, the Hoosier Pacific Fleet was destroyed and the treaty obliged the Hoosier forces to stay out of the Asia-Pacific region. Since then however, the underlying political tensions have not been resolved, and a low-level propaganda and espionage conflict threatens to explode into outright war once again when an armed insurrection breaks out in the region that was formerly Canada...

OOC Notes
This thread is available to entry for those who telegram and get permission from either myself or Hoosier Alliance. Those who are invited are of course, permitted entry. This is the OOC thread for the conflict, and is the place that ORBAT and numbers should be published, as well as OOC issues should be sorted...

All normal rules apply regarding god-modding, OP controlling the threads, etc. Just make sure you stay respectful and enjoy it.

[The Hoosier Alliance]

Alright, got a map. So basically Ontario, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick belong to the Canadian government. Manitoba and Nunavut are heavily disputed and belong to no one right now. Saskatchewan, British Columbia, Alberta, Northwest Territories, and Yukon belong to the Canadian rebels.

https://www.scribblemaps.com/api/maps/images/450/450/HoosierCedorian.png

[Cedoria]

We are now taking requests for entry! Telegram us if you wish to participate!

[Cedoria]

Alright, got a map. So basically Ontario, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick belong to the Canadian government. Manitoba and Nunavut are heavily disputed and belong to no one right now. Saskatchewan, British Columbia, Alberta, Northwest Territories, and Yukon belong to the Canadian rebels.

https://www.scribblemaps.com/api/maps/images/450/450/HoosierCedorian.png

And for clarity's sake, I'm supporting the rebels in their revolution, with Hoosier backing the government, thus sparking the more direct conflict between us...

[Lincolnocracy]

Two quick questions. Firstly, is "Canada" part of Hoosier's territory (e.g.: a department of his country) or is it an ally of his (i.e.: "Canada" is a proxy war)? Secondly, I take it that "Canada" is a nation which is very similar to actual Canada in terms of geography, culture, etc.?

[The Hoosier Alliance]

Two quick questions. Firstly, is "Canada" part of Hoosier's territory (e.g.: a department of his country) or is it an ally of his (i.e.: "Canada" is a proxy war)? Secondly, I take it that "Canada" is a nation which is very similar to actual Canada in terms of geography, culture, etc.?

Canada is an independent country. I am supporting the more centrist government because I do not want a leftist/socialist nation to the north. The Hoosier Alliance is militantly anti-socialist/communist. Canada is mostly the same as it once was but with the fall of the United States has seen small bits of territory seced, it's economy crash, and large amounts of civil unrest, thus the full blown civil war. The whole reason both Cedoria and myself devote large amounts of troops is because we are in a miniature cold war. Neither of us care so much for Canada as we do for our own national interests.

[The Yuktobanian Republic]

I have returned and I shall participate.

[Cedoria]

I have returned and I shall participate.

Good to have you back my friend!

Two quick questions. Firstly, is "Canada" part of Hoosier's territory (e.g.: a department of his country) or is it an ally of his (i.e.: "Canada" is a proxy war)? Secondly, I take it that "Canada" is a nation which is very similar to actual Canada in terms of geography, culture, etc.?

Yes it's being used as a proxy battleground, but will escalate into full-scale war. I'm supporting the Leftist revolutionaries to try and secure a foothold in North America and give myself a border with Hoosier territory (basically tying to do to them what they tried to do to me in the last war)

[The Yuktobanian Republic]

Is an ORBAT required?

[Cedoria]

Is an ORBAT required?

Not yet as such, because people might want to send reinforcements after their initial deployment, but every time you want to deploy forces IC, yes, you mus provide an ORBAT on this thread.


All the rules from last time apply, as well as the No WMDs rule (they basically are god-modding techniques and ruin RPs.)

[United States of Unfreedom]

I'd like to add my POV on the RP. I've talked to Cedoria, and if Hoosier agrees, I'd like to RP as communist/socialist rebels looking to secede from The Hoosier Alliance by force or diplomacy.

[Cedoria]

I'd like to add my POV on the RP. I've talked to Cedoria, and if Hoosier agrees, I'd like to RP as communist/socialist rebels looking to secede from The Hoosier Alliance by force or diplomacy.

We're agreed on that, and Hoosier is as well.

[Pherdistan]

Hello!

If I may ask, who is RPing as the two Canadian sides? And what would their stengths be? If any one side is open, I'd be interested in volunteering to RP them.

[The Hoosier Alliance]

Hello!

If I may ask, who is RPing as the two Canadian sides? And what would their stengths be? If any one side is open, I'd be interested in volunteering to RP them.

The Canadian government is open, if you want to take them. The government has fewer numbers to the rebels but have superior equipment until Cedoria commits troops and supplies. The government is backed so far by The Yuktobanian Republic, Lincolnocracy, and myself. The rebels are backed by Cedoria and United States of Unfreedom is RPing as the rebels.

[Pherdistan]

Hm... I'll take it, then! Any differences from the current Canada? Government? Population? Military?

[The Hoosier Alliance]

Hm... I'll take it, then! Any differences from the current Canada? Government? Population? Military?

The Canadian economy has crashed and their military uses a lot of cheap equipment and is smaller, though with the revolution they would probably conscript more troops. The government is centrist and has little popular support. The population is pretty much the same.

[Cedoria]

Hm... I'll take it, then! Any differences from the current Canada? Government? Population? Military?

The Canadian economy has crashed and their military uses a lot of cheap equipment and is smaller, though with the revolution they would probably conscript more troops. The government is centrist and has little popular support. The population is pretty much the same.

Basically government is more corrupt, military is less effective and economic conditions are worse due to the loss of the American market...

[Union of Lesser Soviet Republics]

Hello tovarishes. Since Cedoria has allowed me to return, I will participate in this RP.

[Caracasus]

No ORBAT at present, thinking of setting some background (i.e. view of the buildup/conflict) through Caracasusian media, then branching out from there...

Persons of immediate Interest

Markus Hepp - Diplomat and ambassador to Cedoria

Inigio Ap Valdt - Industry and Trade special liaison to Cedoria

Solange Nwanneka - Diplomat and ambassador to the Hoosier states

Albina Bhavna - A Commander Elect of the Caracasusian Armed forces, attached to the Cedorian Diplomatic Mission.

Overview of Caracasus

Affiliation of anarcho-socialist communes/states making up the United Socialist States of Caracasus. Large, but not a cohesive whole. Participatory/direct democracy. Strong tradition of dissent, factionalism, anti-imperialism. Strong civil liberties. Open. Planned economy.

Foreign policy outlook: Committed to peace as far as possible. Very strong defensive forces but very little in the way of projected power. Military strength tapers off considerably the further from Caracasus's borders it gets.

Tech era - PMT - military/spying/other tech essentially nerfed for participation here. The only effect you'll notice is the "rule of cool" effect - it will operate on a par with the rest of the RP throughout.

Important places

Industry and Trade - Caracasus's central planning committee. Also handles trade with other economic outlooks through the Hypothetical Zone.

Nineday House - Caracasus's armed forces.

International Affairs and Diplomacy - Caracasus's diplomatic relations.

International Observations. - Spies, basically.

[Cedoria]

Hello tovarishes. Since Cedoria has allowed me to return, I will participate in this RP.

Good to have you back comrade!

No ORBAT at present, thinking of setting some background (i.e. view of the buildup/conflict) through Caracasusian media, then branching out from there...

Persons of immediate Interest

Markus Hepp - Diplomat and ambassador to Cedoria

Inigio Ap Valdt - Industry and Trade special liaison to Cedoria

Solange Nwanneka - Diplomat and ambassador to the Hoosier states

Albina Bhavna - A Commander Elect of the Caracasusian Armed forces, attached to the Cedorian Diplomatic Mission.

Overview of Caracasus

Affiliation of anarcho-socialist communes/states making up the United Socialist States of Caracasus. Large, but not a cohesive whole. Participatory/direct democracy. Strong tradition of dissent, factionalism, anti-imperialism. Strong civil liberties. Open. Planned economy.

Foreign policy outlook: Committed to peace as far as possible. Very strong defensive forces but very little in the way of projected power. Military strength tapers off considerably the further from Caracasus's borders it gets.

Tech era - PMT - military/spying/other tech essentially nerfed for participation here. The only effect you'll notice is the "rule of cool" effect - it will operate on a par with the rest of the RP throughout.

Important places

Industry and Trade - Caracasus's central planning committee. Also handles trade with other economic outlooks through the Hypothetical Zone.

Nineday House - Caracasus's armed forces.

International Affairs and Diplomacy - Caracasus's diplomatic relations.

International Observations. - Spies, basically.

That sounds fine to me. Looking forward to RPing with you again...

[Cedoria]

The IC thread is up! Enjoy!

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=400790

[Caracasus]

So far so good! I'm considering a bunch of options at present.

Firstly, Hoosier States - how about some intrigue and spying? There might be a few folks working at the Caracasusian embassy who believe that forcing the Hoosier States' hand on this matter is going to lead to a longer, more devastating conflict.

Secondly, thinking of creating a seperate faction to be introduced.... later....

[Strange Tendency]

This is the Strange Tendency. We utterly reject the state of Canada as an institution and have no inclination to submit to the will of the Marxist Leninist rebels! Either path leads to slavery and oppression at the hands of the state.

Okay, this is going to be fun!

[The Hoosier Alliance]

So far so good! I'm considering a bunch of options at present.

Firstly, Hoosier States - how about some intrigue and spying? There might be a few folks working at the Caracasusian embassy who believe that forcing the Hoosier States' hand on this matter is going to lead to a longer, more devastating conflict.

Secondly, thinking of creating a seperate faction to be introduced.... later....

Spying sounds great to me. I say go right ahead.

[Lincolnocracy]

I have a dumb question. If I want to do something without g-moding, I should ask the United States of Unfreedom if it's in rebel territory, and I should ask Pherdistan if it's in government territory, but what about disputed territory? E.g.: Deploying troops.