International Association of Slave Exporting Nations-(IASEN)

[Rumbria]

We are not a slave exporting nation at all, I never alleged such. We are a slave importing nation.

I simply suggested that several members of this group may wish to take up a pro-slavery mantle at the conference which shall be held

[Des-Bal]

We are not a slave exporting nation at all, I never alleged such. We are a slave importing nation.

I simply suggested that several members of this group may wish to take up a pro-slavery mantle at the conference which shall be held

I didn't mean to imply that you had but legitimate reasons for becoming involved seem rather few.

[Rumbria]

The legitimate reasons include the fact that as a slave importing nation my country no doubt contributes a significant amount to the economies of slave importing nations. Considering the abolishment of penal slavery is one step closer to a ban on all slavery.

[Teccor]

Arguing, stop.

Agreed. Also:

[imput generic condemnation here]

OOC: I'm really, really tired of typing out full diplomatic missives to these shit-hole alliances and organizations. I'm close to just copy-pasting the same generic one to all of them. I have also yet to see an alliance of Democratic, Libertarian, Pro-Human Rights Republics. I guess it's because those nations are boring.

[The Rich Port]

Arguing, stop.

Agreed. Also:

[imput generic condemnation here]

OOC: I'm really, really tired of typing out full diplomatic missives to these shit-hole alliances and organizations. I'm close to just copy-pasting the same generic one to all of them. I have also yet to see an alliance of Democratic, Libertarian, Pro-Human Rights Republics. I guess it's because those nations are boring.

I don't think that's even been suggested... In the Communist alliances such things are expected (that you're democratic, liberal, and pro-human rights).

[Des-Bal]

The legitimate reasons include the fact that as a slave importing nation my country no doubt contributes a significant amount to the economies of slave importing nations. Considering the abolishment of penal slavery is one step closer to a ban on all slavery.

I'm not familiar with your status as a customer large enough to noticeably impact economies, that would imply frequent bulk orders which honestly unless your eating them doesn't make a great deal of sense. There's also the fact that we cannot be certain how intervention would effect the nature of slavery in your nation, if there was no longer punitive slavery it stands to reason that one your nation would drift closer to abolition or two that your nation would require more foreign slaves.While I sincerely hope you chose the logical course of action the scope seems very narrow. Were it an issue of the ethics or economical value of slavery on a larger stage then I would agree member nations hold a stake but IASEN cannot be at the beck and call of every instance of policy change.

[Des-Bal]

Agreed. Also:

[imput generic condemnation here]

OOC: I'm really, really tired of typing out full diplomatic missives to these shit-hole alliances and organizations. I'm close to just copy-pasting the same generic one to all of them. I have also yet to see an alliance of Democratic, Libertarian, Pro-Human Rights Republics. I guess it's because those nations are boring.

I don't think that's even been suggested... In the Communist alliances such things are expected (that you're democratic, liberal, and pro-human rights).

Libertarianism is the antithesis of Communism

[The Rich Port]

Libertarianism is the antithesis of Communism

Hence why I said "liberal", not "libertarian".

All of that libertarianism stuff is just more sectionalism bullshit. People try too hard to be unique.

[Des-Bal]

Libertarianism is the antithesis of Communism

Hence why I said "liberal", not "libertarian".

All of that libertarianism stuff is just more sectionalism bullshit. People try too hard to be unique.

But you also said such things are expected that's like saying it's just like a dog because it's furry and a baguette it's confusing as hell.

Libertarianism works on very well founded principles.

[The Rich Port]

But you also said such things are expected that's like saying it's just like a dog because it's furry and a baguette it's confusing as hell.

Libertarianism works on very well founded principles.

... Wait... What?

Yeah, yeah, a lot of stuff works on very well founded principles. Libertarianism is nothing new or special.

[Des-Bal]

... Wait... What?

Yeah, yeah, a lot of stuff works on very well founded principles. Libertarianism is nothing new or special.

Baguettes not cats are the opposite of dogs.

Aristotle isn't new or special does that make it less valid?

[The Rich Port]

... Wait... What?

Yeah, yeah, a lot of stuff works on very well founded principles. Libertarianism is nothing new or special.

Baguettes not cats are the opposite of dogs.

Aristotle isn't new or special does that make it less valid?

... I still don't get what the analogy, or whatever the fuck, that means... Baguettes are the opposite of dogs?

Aristotle was an original. He brought new things to the foray. Libertarianism is just another offshoot of... Really, I don't know what it is supposed to be an offshoot of. Hell, political labeling is just stupid in general. What does it matter what you identify as? It's what you do, not what you say you are, that makes you who you are.

[Des-Bal]

... I still don't get what the analogy, or whatever the fuck, that means... Baguettes are the opposite of dogs?

Aristotle was an original. He brought new things to the foray. Libertarianism is just another offshoot of... Really, I don't know what it is supposed to be an offshoot of. Hell, political labeling is just stupid in general. What does it matter what you identify as? It's what you do, not what you say you are, that makes you who you are.

Actually political labelling saves alot of time by generally outlining principles. It's alot easier to say someone is libertarian than saying they are a person who favors minimal government interference in both public and private respects.

[Unilisia]

I said STOP arguing.

Or I will pull out my de jure secondary founder rights and bitch slap one of you with it.

Teccor, why the hell are you even here ?

[The Rich Port]

... I still don't get what the analogy, or whatever the fuck, that means... Baguettes are the opposite of dogs?

Aristotle was an original. He brought new things to the foray. Libertarianism is just another offshoot of... Really, I don't know what it is supposed to be an offshoot of. Hell, political labeling is just stupid in general. What does it matter what you identify as? It's what you do, not what you say you are, that makes you who you are.

Actually political labelling saves alot of time by generally outlining principles. It's alot easier to say someone is libertarian than saying they are a person who favors minimal government interference in both public and private respects.

Easy =/= correct. That's the whole thing: labelling is a form of discrimination, and it is not the good kind. And last time I checked, that was not the only thing libertarianism supported. The universe may demand diversity, but it is up to us to quell those who seek to eliminate diversity.

I said STOP arguing.

Or I will pull out my de jure secondary founder rights and bitch slap one of you with it.

Teccor, why the hell are you even here ?

... Who's arguing?

[Osthia]

Arguing, stop.

Agreed. Also:

[imput generic condemnation here]

OOC: I'm really, really tired of typing out full diplomatic missives to these shit-hole alliances and organizations. I'm close to just copy-pasting the same generic one to all of them. I have also yet to see an alliance of Democratic, Libertarian, Pro-Human Rights Republics. I guess it's because those nations are boring.

sorry, just roaming around II when i saw your post. you would be interested in this alliance:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=73987&hilit=defenders+of+humanity

[Des-Bal]

I said STOP arguing.

Or I will pull out my de jure secondary founder rights and bitch slap one of you with it.

Teccor, why the hell are you even here ?

Aren't you observer? Not sure when this was updated

IASEN-Grand Council and Executive Branch:

1. Greater Tezdrian,
2. Des-Bal,
3. Rich and Corporations
4. Great Nepal

Observer Status:

1. Daemonika
2. Jenrak
3. Unilisia
4. South Thasland
5. Pyschotika
6. The Bleeding Roses
7. Prevania
8. Western Cuba

[Unilisia]

I said STOP arguing.

Or I will pull out my de jure secondary founder rights and bitch slap one of you with it.

Teccor, why the hell are you even here ?

Aren't you observer? Not sure when this was updated

IASEN-Grand Council and Executive Branch:

1. Greater Tezdrian,
2. Des-Bal,
3. Rich and Corporations
4. Great Nepal

Observer Status:

1. Daemonika
2. Jenrak
3. Unilisia
4. South Thasland
5. Pyschotika
6. The Bleeding Roses
7. Prevania
8. Western Cuba

I lowered myself to observer status when Unilisia abolished slavery, I am however, still de facto second in command of this place. Lack of activity in combination with having a life outside the internet has rendered my voice largely unheard in this thread. If you want to argue, ask Tezdrian.

[Laos Refugees]

Laosia condemns the I.A.S.E.N, as it limits the Liberty of the people. If the I.A.S.E.N operates within NAZI EUROPE or in LAOSIA, then there will be serious side effects.

[Unilisia]

Laosia condemns the I.A.S.E.N, as it limits the Liberty of the people. If the I.A.S.E.N operates within NAZI EUROPE or in LAOSIA, then there will be serious side effects.

The I.A.S.E.N. has and never will operate in states whose ideologies eclipse the boundaries of sanity. Free will is non-existent in Nazist states.

[The Rich Port]

Laosia condemns the I.A.S.E.N, as it limits the Liberty of the people. If the I.A.S.E.N operates within NAZI EUROPE or in LAOSIA, then there will be serious side effects.

For some reason, I used to be afraid of your country... But now that I saw that your currency is worthless, your economy non-existant, your government a sham, and your military sub-par, I laugh. Same thing with you, Unilisia.

I can be so naive sometimes...

[Des-Bal]

Laosia condemns the I.A.S.E.N, as it limits the Liberty of the people. If the I.A.S.E.N operates within NAZI EUROPE or in LAOSIA, then there will be serious side effects.

If IASEN operates within your territories then one must presume your territories are buying slaves, if your unable to control your own people then perhaps that should be your concern rather than posturing for the international community?

[Unilisia]

Laosia condemns the I.A.S.E.N, as it limits the Liberty of the people. If the I.A.S.E.N operates within NAZI EUROPE or in LAOSIA, then there will be serious side effects.

For some reason, I used to be afraid of your country... But now that I saw that your currency is worthless, your economy non-existant, your government a sham, and your military sub-par, I laugh. Same thing with you, Unilisia.

I can be so naive sometimes...

If your judging by WA Categories or Economics, I am ashamed to know you. Such things do not affect how most nations conduct their RPing.

[The Rich Port]

If your judging by WA Categories or Economics, I am ashamed to know you. Such things do not affect RPing.

Suspension of disbelief can only go so far. How would you react if a brand new country came after you with a ten million man army with lasers? C'mon, seriously.

[Des-Bal]

If your judging by WA Categories or Economics, I am ashamed to know you. Such things do not affect RPing.

I don't put any stock into political or civil liberties but I think the economics should come into play to some degree it keeps people from asserting infinite wealth.