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by Christoslavia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:44 am
by The Evan Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:49 am
by IOTA Corp » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:03 am
by Christoslavia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:07 am
by IOTA Corp » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:22 am
by Christoslavia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:25 am
by IOTA Corp » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:44 am
by Christoslavia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:52 am
IOTA Corp wrote:"Well then, if you are not objective, why do you demand The Cyberiad be put at the mercy of total strangers to control what they may build within their borders and what technology they may possess? The reason, I think, is that you are terrified of the power of the Panopticon, and you are projecting this moral and ethical criticism of the Cyberiad to mask your selfish desires to hide in the darkness. To hide so that you may rule your nation with a tyrannical hand that the Cyberiad opposes! Our views need not be objective, and neither do yours. You speak so highly of sovereignty, but when one nation gains an advantage you seem to cry for them to destroy it. If you truly believed in a nation's right to Sovereingty, you would not demand something be done to infringe upon it. Technological progress is the inevitable march that drives us all. If it wasn't the Cyberiad that built the panopticon, another would. Maybe you don't like how they went about building it, but that's just tough luck. Now the Cyberiad is much more diplomatic than I am, and they may reach a compromise with you, but you can't force them to do anything without shattering the illusion of sovereignty you seem to hold oh so dear!" By this point, Agnew had stood with his hands placed squarely on the table, with his voice elevated nearly to the point of shouting. He sat back down in his chair. " And I never threaten war: It's not good for profits."
by Blizatine » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:29 pm
IOTA Corp wrote:Ignoring the angry OverLord, Agnew look to the Blizatinian leader while smiling, "Would you like to interject anything into our little discussion Emperor Reconlaf?"
Well since you asked so kindly I will say a few words. Morality is subjective, foreign policy is hypocritical that is the true nature of things. A country's foreign policy is dependent on what is good for them, there is no moral considerations when making these decisions. I have pushed for this for one reason and one reason only, it infringes on what I believe to be best for both Blizatine and the world at large. This technology will lead to the destruction of every other nation state in existence, because of the sheer power of it. Though who will be most effective would be a sovereign corporation like yourself which is why I find it a bit odd your not arguing heavily against them keeping it, after all isn't your main motive supposed to be profits. If the Cyberiad council has this tech it's only a matter of time until other nations design their own in response. What do you think will happen to your corporation when all your models and items are view-able in intricate detail by the masses. What will happen when anyone with the means will be able to produce perfect replicas of your goods? This has not only numerous consequences for you but the world as a hole, if there is no copyright protection innovation will be stifled for who would be willing to put their life into a work that is guaranteed to be stolen by others? With this technology their will be no motive to invest in technology as any tech you manufacture will be taken by the whole world. I make no claims of morality by sovereignty. I make the claim that this technology will negatively impact my citizens as well as citizens around the world, and as such I, no we have a vested interest in stopping it's production.
by The Evan Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:35 pm
by IOTA Corp » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:49 pm
by Christoslavia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:03 pm
by Blizatine » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:39 pm
Well then let me address each of your points. Firstly IOTA corp, we both know there is corporate espionage, and we both know nations don't follow rules. Even if you were to copyright a weapon, that copyright is only enforcable through WA members based on their very, loose laws. They are so loose in fact that if I gained your schematics for a weapon and I believed it to be better than mine, I would begin produceing my own, or at least a very similar version, and outside of war, there wouldn't be much you could do about it. So imagine what would happen if countries that weren't in the WA got a hold of this tech.
Secondly Evan Empire, the internet was a great weapon with powerful capabilities, but at no point did it infringe on anyone's rights. Sure there may be people who use the internet in a illegal manner, but the technology itself is not perpetuating any crimes, unlike this tech would be. Is there really not one person at this table who is not fine with the idea of being watched at all times and have everyone of their actions available to be viewed? Because if truly no one here other than I is unwilling to let others see what they are doing at all times, I will drop this proposal. Your Supreme Overlord? Mr. Agnew?
by The Cyberiad Council » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:51 pm
by Blizatine » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:10 pm
Oh hell no you don't, Uerthe!
What is going on Prime? Columbus get me copies on all that now!
You see, you talk of trust, but what did I say, if it can be used as a weapon it will. Furthermore you all can now see there are blatant attempts to assault our sovereignty. They are a threat to all of us, and I have seen enough here to demand the destruction of of their computer as it has been shown to be used in a threat to all of us. Furthermore Blizantine extends it's hand in friendship, and support of the Augment, and thanks them for the hard work they've done.
by Christoslavia » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:23 am
by The Cyberiad Council » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:19 am
"I know for a fact neither of you are stupid, so don't do anything rash that will result in your early Demise! If these files are authentic, I had no knowledge of their existence, but after seeing your hostile tendencies I feel peace is behind us. Reconlaf, if you demand The Panopticons destruction, you will have to take it by force! THE PANOPTICON STANDS!"
by Christoslavia » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:23 am
by The Evan Empire » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:24 am
by Blizatine » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:19 am
IOTA Corp wrote:"I think that went well," Agnew, who had remained seated throughout the tense ordeal, said to no one in particular.
Honestly, I'd give it a six out of ten, I mean who doesn't like an unexpected hack at a crucial time. Before we go, I think we've all made our position clear, so what's yours?
by IOTA Corp » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:40 am
Blizatine wrote:Honestly, I'd give it a six out of ten, I mean who doesn't like an unexpected hack at a crucial time. Before we go, I think we've all made our position clear, so what's yours?
by Blizatine » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:12 pm
One man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
Columbus, we get the data?
Yes, the leak was transferred directly to the Empire
Good, alright get me in contact with this Augment group. Your Supreme Overlord, I wish you luck. Columbus call our ravens out, we're going home. Oh and get me general Takahoshi I have a great idea.
by The Cyberiad Council » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:32 pm
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